Can Frost Hydra Trigger Rimeheart???

Wizard
topic^^
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/rimeheart

Wouldn't matter even if it could. It is tied to a status effect limited by crowd control resistance build up (being frozen). It only rolls the dice to see if a proc happens if the condition of 'Frozen' is met first.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guide/gameplay/game-difficulty#monster-resistances

Manald heal on the other hand doesn't care if anything is stunned, only if the dice roll for paralysis was successful. Picture if Manald heal only ever proc'd on things while they were actually stunned by paralysis and you'll get a small preview of how bad rime heart would be.

Also this helm barely ever procs anyway: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-magistrate
Well, they dont directly proc RH. the target has to be frozen and then comes in the 20% chance, thats a high gamble with RNG... maybe if you roll all your armor pieces for "chance to freeze on hit" and reach a combined 100% (dont know if thats possible), the other way is by using Blizzard with the Frozen Solid rune for a 100% chance to freeze for 2.5 seconds and then each Hydra head would roll the dice for RH...
And that gave me an interesting idea and I thank you for that...
Get RH + Blizzard wit Frozen Solid rune with my MH + Lightning Hydra, I know they wont stack but I would be rolling 2 dices with every Hydra attack, though Blizzard aint a cheap cast but I would use it mostly for mobs, specially if they manage to get at melee range...
05/12/2017 07:03 AMPosted by MADX0
though Blizzard aint a cheap cast but I would use it mostly for mobs, specially if they manage to get at melee range...


Etched Sigil proc blizzard very often.

P.S.: Let's me know if it's work; I have been stashing frost gear since I found a GG Rimeheart; siting in my chest.
Don't forget, that the 20% rimeheart chance is further reduced by proc coefficients.

Have fun!
Is there not a gem that improve your chance to freeze mobs? And I guess if you buff Frost nova with legendary power, it's must not be this hard to spread the CC.
05/12/2017 07:23 AMPosted by Kelmort
05/12/2017 07:03 AMPosted by MADX0
though Blizzard aint a cheap cast but I would use it mostly for mobs, specially if they manage to get at melee range...


Etched Sigil proc blizzard very often.

P.S.: Let's me know if it's work; I have been stashing frost gear since I found a GG Rimeheart; siting in my chest.

But dont the Etched Sigil procs consume Arcane Power too?
another way to increase your chance is to have a Eun-jang-do
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/eunjangdo
Rimeheart + Eun-jang-do, the strongest equipped and the other one kubbed... but I was reading that RH wont proc on bosses...
05/12/2017 07:34 AMPosted by Kelmort
Is there not a gem that improve your chance to freeze mobs?


Nope, but maybe you're thinking of iceblink: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/iceblink
Your Cold skills now apply Chill effects and your Chill effects now Slow enemy movement by an additional 5.0%.

Enemies you Chill have a 10% increased chance to be Critically Hit. (Requires Rank 25)


05/12/2017 07:34 AMPosted by Kelmort
And I guess if you buff Frost nova with legendary power, it's must not be this hard to spread the CC.


Only items relating to frost nova are:
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/winter-flurry (chance proc on-kill)
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-magistrate (once cast every few seconds)
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/halo-of-arlyse (good for staying alive on the run, but requires taking dmg, meaning things don't stay frozen)

It doesn't matter though since enemies will begin to resist being frozen rather quickly, you need to be close to them to freeze them, and rimeheart's 20% chance to proc while frozen is further reduced by proc coefficients of spells.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guide/gameplay/game-difficulty#monster-resistances
05/12/2017 07:38 AMPosted by MADX0
But dont the Etched Sigil procs consume Arcane Power too?


They do not consume arcane power.

05/12/2017 07:38 AMPosted by MADX0
but I was reading that RH wont proc on bosses...


It can proc on bosses, but bosses quickly become immune to the freeze attempted by frost nova.
05/12/2017 07:31 AMPosted by BDF
Don't forget, that the 20% rimeheart chance is further reduced by proc coefficients.

Have fun!

So, rolling 2 dices at the same time lowers the chances for both (or just for RH)? Didnt knew about it...
05/12/2017 07:46 AMPosted by MADX0
So, rolling 2 dices at the same time lowers the chances for both (or just for RH)? Didnt knew about it...


Basically yes. Using a skill with a 0.1 proc coefficient will mean that the true chance of getting rimeheart to activate on a frozen target will be 2% per tick down from 20%.
05/12/2017 07:49 AMPosted by BDF
Basically yes. Using a skill with a 0.1 proc coefficient will mean that the true chance of getting rimeheart to activate on a frozen target will be 2% per tick down from 20%.

Oh well, no RH for me then, Im doing quite nice with MH hydras. Thanks for saving me the time. Then I'll just focus on maximize my dmg output with lightning %
@BDF a question. If I go with a Starfire and cast Hydra, would the dmg increase be base on their distance to the target or mine?
EDIT: not sure how it works cos I dont go with distance based buffs like Power hungry or Audacity. only Bane of the Trapped for melee attackers and those stunned with Paralysis (?)...
05/12/2017 07:59 AMPosted by MADX0
@BDF a question. If I go with a Starfire and cast Hydra, would the dmg increase be base on their distance to the target or mine?
EDIT: not sure how it works cos I dont go with distance based buffs like Power hungry or Audacity. only Bane of the Trapped for melee attackers and those stunned with Paralysis (?)...


It's in the thread about manald heal and hydra:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/d3/topic/20753695205
03/22/2017 06:14 PMPosted by Cratic
Skills and items that have a ranged requirement base their MH Hydra proc damage on the location of the hero, not the hydra.


I would recommend reading through that thread since there will be lots of other good tips worth knowing that aren't exactly intuitive.
Thanks!, I will...
but theres a similar thread about MH +Hydra mechanics where you'r posting and it says that MH dmg doesnt benefits from "lighning % dmg" yet I runned a prifile at the d3planner and it showed MH benefiting from "lighning % dmg"... is the d3planner reliable on that matter?
Don't even bother with Rimeheart! I've tried it, you have to keep mobs 100% Frozen 100% of the time and even then its negligible damage. You're better off throwing snowballs at a barn.
Been working on trying to make rimehart powerful.

So far, to maximize damage.. the ring broken promises.

It’s actually quite easy to Proc the 100% crit.

That’s at least one dice roll you take out of the equation.

Procing rimehart hits hard, but it’s best when it cries 100%

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