Woh needs another 200% damage

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Wand og woh needs to be 450-600% damage bonus. Before season 12 goes live
I would say 400-500% too make it push easier into the group met as well as solo.

Up to 600% would be a little ridiculous.
Serious question here, how much more DPS would this wand and source need to have in order to clear a Greater rift 115? Thanks.

Perhaps is best to modify the actual character skill stats or the offhand as it is much easier to attain then a wand of woh.
10/29/2017 09:25 AMPosted by Shawmeck
the offhand as it is much easier to attain then a wand of woh.

OoID is difficult one as it boosts all damage, and changes to it affects other builds as well. But yes the low power of the orb is the limitation to this skill and it's effectiveness.
It's a ingeom speed build item. Buffing it more will be stupid. It would be like buffing sage's set to do GRs. Why?
Im wondering if WOH is more suited for DMO or Tal or FB?
10/29/2017 04:07 PMPosted by Steve
It's a ingeom speed build item. Buffing it more will be stupid. It would be like buffing sage's set to do GRs. Why?


why only have EB for speed builds ???????

i allwayes dreamed of a push GR WoH EB build.
10/30/2017 02:03 AMPosted by Syhler187
i allwayes dreamed of a push GR WoH EB build.


You can. Check this out: http://www.diablofans.com/builds/94599-2-6-1-gr108-fb-eb-etched-ignite-redux

The trick is Etched Sigil + Deathwish for huge multipliers on EB damage, since you can cast EB while channeling. Plus you get approximately double the EBs from Etched Sigil casts.

It won't beat Meteors, Orbs, or MH Vyr's, but a GR106 at 1800 paragon is pretty solid.
The trick is Etched Sigil + Deathwish for huge multipliers on EB damage, since you can cast EB while channeling. Plus you get approximately double the EBs from Etched Sigil casts.

wait really? You cast EB twice overlapping, once manually and once from ES?
10/30/2017 08:40 AMPosted by TinneOnnMuin
10/30/2017 02:03 AMPosted by Syhler187
i allwayes dreamed of a push GR WoH EB build.


You can. Check this out: http://www.diablofans.com/builds/94599-2-6-1-gr108-fb-eb-etched-ignite-redux

The trick is Etched Sigil + Deathwish for huge multipliers on EB damage, since you can cast EB while channeling. Plus you get approximately double the EBs from Etched Sigil casts.

It won't beat Meteors, Orbs, or MH Vyr's, but a GR106 at 1800 paragon is pretty solid.


Did you read the build? it was on the ptr when firebird was at a 5000% multiple. it was reduced to 4000% that build is at most a GR 98 now with his same stats.
10/30/2017 07:26 PMPosted by Jumpman
Did you read the build? it was on the ptr when firebird was at a 5000% multiple. it was reduced to 4000% that build is at most a GR 98 now with his same stats.


Yes, I did.

if you watch at the end of the video when he mouses over his gear, you'll see it's with 4000% FB: https://youtu.be/Rd0gOFahElQ?t=888
He did the 106 when it was at 4000%, and a 108 when it was at 5000%.

Which makes sense, because the difference between 4000% FB and 5000% FB is only about 1-2 GR levels. ln(51/41)/ln(1.17) = ~1.4 GR levels.

10/30/2017 10:08 AMPosted by DaRupp
wait really? You cast EB twice overlapping, once manually and once from ES?


Yes.
10/30/2017 02:03 AMPosted by Syhler187
10/29/2017 04:07 PMPosted by Steve
It's a ingeom speed build item. Buffing it more will be stupid. It would be like buffing sage's set to do GRs. Why?


why only have EB for speed builds ???????

i allwayes dreamed of a push GR WoH EB build.


I tried the numbers but in the end, you can't compete. With Ingeom, you have like 5 instances going off at once. It's like 500% multiplicative damage bonus. If you buff it to do 5 times the damage to make it do what it would do on a speed run, then Ingeom speed run would be stupidly insane damage. But then in GRs when it takes longer than 30 seconds to kill an elite, ingeom is useless and it won't be anywhere near as effective as the other builds. It's either MASSIVE overkill for speed farming, or crap at GR pushing, just because of the mechanics of how it works. That cool down is just too costly in GRs.
10/28/2017 06:05 PMPosted by Syhler187
Wand og woh needs to be 450-600% damage bonus. Before season 12 goes live

so you want a patch a week after a patch and before the next season? do you honestly think that will happen?

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