stats needed to do mp10 ubers for SNS

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249k @ 2.76 aps, nuff said.
Straight from Kieble's Calc

Core Stats
Intelligence 2251
Strength 451
Dexterity 534
Vitality 848

Defensive Stats
Armor 4296
Health 45,533
Percent Life 52%
Resist All 793
Dodge 20.68%
EHP 378,624

Offensive Stats
Crit Chance 50.5%
Crit Damage 273%
IAS 68%
Elemental Damage 0%
Main Hand Speed 1.64
Attacks Per Second 2.755
Weapon Min / Max 434.1 Min 928.1 Max
Total Plus Min / Max 121 Min 323 Max
DPS 153,061

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Can run Shockanado in MP10 for Eastern Time Zone with either:
3.0aps - 75kdps/50.5cc/460kEHP/700LoH
2.73aps - 105kdps/53cc/363kEHP/830LoH
@tekk, i met u for ur wizard but id rather have ur monk in mp10 ubers :)

also i added the guys on this page to the list but vikesfan whats ur time zone?
Hi SteelPhantom, Im interested. But My stat are list as below:

2.71aps - 109k DPS / 56.5cc / 331k EHP / 1400 LOH / 4454 Armor / 676 AR / 510 Life Regen

Ermm.. what else information u need from me?
You cant check my profile now, cause currently im running archon build for paragon leveling.
DKHitoro u are just .2 aps away from gettin into the union tbh ur loh would make up for ur slightly low ehp but gettin to that 2.73 aps mark is very impt if ur the only cm wiz for an uber run

2.73 aps is a fairly impt pt to hit unless u have gone done to 2.51 aps so that u could get ur dps over 200k


also i added the guys on this page to the list but vikesfan whats ur time zone?


Sorry eastern...
01/23/2013 06:05 PMPosted by SteelPhantom
@tekk, i met u for ur wizard but id rather have ur monk in mp10 ubers :)
Hahahah, you and me both. :p Conviction Monk + SNS CM/WW + HoTA Barb = gg MP10 ubers
DKHitoro u are just .2 aps away from gettin into the union.....


Ok Steel.
Will upgrade my gears~ to match the min requirement. (but not so soon due to limited gold income)...

Or if I can add you up and take a look on my CM/s gears and guide me on the next upgrade.. will ya?

At least i can aim something for my next upgrade and save gold for that as well.

My time zone is UTC (singapore)
DKhitoro feel free to add me, but im on EST time so we may not be online at the same time too much
feel free to add me as well.
2.76 aps
20 apoc
200kdps
50.5cc
854loh
para 100 if that even matters

ayerun#1511
SNS + Meteor Impact spam

3.04 APS
50% CC
142,465.51 DPS (unbuffed)
18 APoC
1,354 LoH
414,581 EHP (unbuffed)
3,890 Armor
766 AR

DiabloProgress link: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/valcrist-6473/Valcrist/21348212

I live in Singapore so my gaming time would be SGT (GMT +8) but I guess you could lump me together with the EST guys

I'm wondering about this statement: "is anybody out there able to to make it work at 16 or 17 apoc". I run with just 18 APoC but I can drop meteors like a gatling gun (and I even use the Meteor Impact rune instead of Star Pact or Liquefy). How would a 1 APoC difference break the build (especially if you're just running pure SNS)? Does 1 point really make that much of a difference?
I met the requirement. Add me. :D

Pacific time
Depending on gears
2.80-3.01
150k-180k depending.
20-30 Arcane per critical
@valchrist from a theory/math standpoint 16/17 apoc leads to out of apoc msgs

added some of u , sent others friend requests
01/23/2013 10:00 PMPosted by Valcrist
How would a 1 APoC difference break the build (especially if you're just running pure SNS)? Does 1 point really make that much of a difference?


If Energy Twister was free to cast it wouldn't make much sense no.

Instinctually you are doing (18/17 - 1) * 100 = 5.9% increase, why should that be the difference between success and failure when thats min-maxing territory.

The issue is Energy Twister costs a flat AP. Your base AP generation isn't enough on its own to fuel 1.5-2.5 explosive blasts a second either so you need a large surplus coming from your twisters.

So at the 2.73 breakpoint and 50cc, consider the standard 'good' SNS wiz we obtain...

36 * 0.125 * 0.50 = 2.25 AP per target per point of APoC over the life of a twister.

So at 17 APoc : 17 * 2.25 = 38.25 against a single target. Is only 9% surplus of AP and not enough to fuel EB.

18 APoC : 18 * 2.25 = 40.5 or a 16% surplus. I still dont consider it enough, but instead of this being a relatively meaningless 5.9% increase in AP recovery its actually a full 75% increase in 'extra' AP that can be used towards explosive blast.
01/23/2013 08:41 PMPosted by SteelPhantom
DKhitoro feel free to add me, but im on EST time so we may not be online at the same time too much


@SteelPhantom
Hrm...I basically always online after 4/5am PST. which is 8/9pm Singapore time.
I'll add you later once i reach home after my work.

Thanks a lots.
sorry i forgot about this, got distracted by pvp :)

azo and torrential what time zones are u guys in?


atm im central time zone.
How would a 1 APoC difference break the build (especially if you're just running pure SNS)? Does 1 point really make that much of a difference?


If Energy Twister was free to cast it wouldn't make much sense no.

Instinctually you are doing (18/17 - 1) * 100 = 5.9% increase, why should that be the difference between success and failure when thats min-maxing territory.

The issue is Energy Twister costs a flat AP. Your base AP generation isn't enough on its own to fuel 1.5-2.5 explosive blasts a second either so you need a large surplus coming from your twisters.

So at the 2.73 breakpoint and 50cc, consider the standard 'good' SNS wiz we obtain...

36 * 0.125 * 0.50 = 2.25 AP per target per point of APoC over the life of a twister.

So at 17 APoc : 17 * 2.25 = 38.25 against a single target. Is only 9% surplus of AP and not enough to fuel EB.

18 APoC : 18 * 2.25 = 40.5 or a 16% surplus. I still dont consider it enough, but instead of this being a relatively meaningless 5.9% increase in AP recovery its actually a full 75% increase in 'extra' AP that can be used towards explosive blast.
So then it really depends on your CC and IAS as well and "18" shouldn't be seen as some kind of magic number. Someone with 55%CC/2.73aps, would be running 42.075 with 17APoC. Likewise someone running 50%cc/3.00aps would be at 42.5 at 17APoC. In both cases, either 55%cc/2.73aps or 50%cc/3.00aps, would be superior to 18 APOC at 50%cc/2.73aps. In fact, a +29-36% increase in free AP.
maybe someday...i will make it here...a worthy goal to shoot for
01/24/2013 08:54 AMPosted by Romad
maybe someday...i will make it here...a worthy goal to shoot for


ur not that far away, just some armor and ar, to help u hit the mark

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