S&B QA Part 3

Barbarian
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Have you guys ever thought of starting another char besides our barbs? Iam almost done lvling a WD (1 more lvl) he is gonna be a Zdog build. Got 2 of the 3 set pieces prolly pick up a homunculus this weekend.

sorry for being off topic.


I have 60 for every character and I just can't stop playing barb aside from DH. DH was my main so ya...

Maybe I would like the characters more if I was willing to spend gold on them.
60 of all chars as well
mainly play on my Barb for higher mp then after that is my Monk
my WD and DH plays on lower mps with my irl friends
my Wiz is banished to Leoric's realm for now

I like my Barb the best since I don't like dying
My Monk has great eDPS but she's squishy and she'll be nerfed soon ... or buffed .. have to wait till 1.07 to decide which lol
02/01/2013 01:49 PMPosted by sfxer
I think that's a profile bug, QHTran. My shield in-game still reads 34% Block.


if you notice the stats on the SS in the profile, it dropped the "+X% chance to block" from the stat list. That accounts for the difference in what you are seeing.
Hi S&B experts,

Need your opinion on my next upgrade direction, as it is becoming too trivial for any kind of further upgrades to my barb. Currently I am farming MP7 comfortably and would like improve further. I have budget of about 100M.

Some of the options which i am looking for upgrade are (ordered as preference)

1) IC with Str > 200 & MS(Atleast 10) - Mainly for better farming efficiency - MS on IC is really cool however you need to look for good deals, most of IC with MS are pretty expensive.

2) Shield with Str > 250 and Vit > 150 and other stats remains the same - Mainly for better EHP. - We would recommend Stormshield with cc and 30+% block. The additional block %, elite/melee damage reduction > than VIT. You will also benefit from it when you pvp

3) Ammy with CC > 9 & CD > 90 - In Dilemma to craft myself in the patch 1.0.7 - Yes your desired stats are recommended, but make sure it has main stats in it like STR, VIT, or any of the following for additional EHP boost AR/Armour/life%

4) Witching Hour for overall DPS improvement, need to switch 'Tough Nails' to 'Blood Thirst' passive. - TWH is good for extreme dps boost especially for farming but make sure bloodthirst can keep you alive. I noticed that you dont have LS on weapon so be careful with this decision, its very risky on your part. I would say don't prioritise this for now.

In addition you may want to get an ik belt for the 3rd ik bonus..

Please advice on your expert opinion. Thanks!


@cvvikram I've replied on against each of your bullet points above.

Nike


Thanks Nike! Will lookout for the suggestions mentioned. You guys are really doing great job indeed, keep it up!
Have you guys ever thought of starting another char besides our barbs? Iam almost done lvling a WD (1 more lvl) he is gonna be a Zdog build. Got 2 of the 3 set pieces prolly pick up a homunculus this weekend.

sorry for being off topic.


yeah i thought of this before, i tried to play a mage, you'll see a lvl 57 in my profile but i got !@#$ bored with it so stopped it lol and put a burger on his MH. All the games i've played where melee so range is not really my play style.
Have you guys ever thought of starting another char besides our barbs? Iam almost done lvling a WD (1 more lvl) he is gonna be a Zdog build. Got 2 of the 3 set pieces prolly pick up a homunculus this weekend.

sorry for being off topic.


yeah i thought of this before, i tried to play a mage, you'll see a lvl 57 in my profile but i got !@#$ bored with it so stopped it lol and put a burger on his MH. All the games i've played where melee so range is not really my play style.


yea I did a Wiz also and really liked it. But I am a barb at heart. Found myself wanting to get close to enemies too often and getting killed too easily. Although I have thought about starting a WD at some point too.
What's up S/B barbs. My barb was WW/nado up to para-level 51 before I decided to sell his weapons, helm, gloves, bracer so I can fund my Monk's gears. While farming I found the Mempo I'm wearing now so I decided to play my Barb again.

I've always wanted to try S/B setup so I bought some cheap items: 3M bracer, 1M pants, and a 800k 1.1k, socketed, zero stats axe (sold it eventually for 1.5M and got this 400k mighty weap). I've been doing MP7 key runs and I believe I've only died 2x in 4 days of playing :)

I'm loving the tankiness so far but I need the S/B experts' advice so I can get more DPS in the most efficient manner. I have 140M, can I get to ~120k dps with only one offensive passive (ruthless or wm)?
That feeling when you know that you won't be home for an auction...
02/01/2013 11:45 PMPosted by xxxkan
That feeling when you know that you won't be home for an auction...


That feeling when you see that current bid is close to your winning bid and you dont have enough gold to increase your bid... Wishing the guy forgets to do a final bid....
02/01/2013 11:48 PMPosted by Nikeboy1984
That feeling when you see that current bid is close to your winning bid and you dont have enough gold to increase your bid... Wishing the guy forgets to do a final bid....


Sigh... guess the 2b ammy didn't work out
Hi all,

First time in this thread. I have always been ww barb for lvling. Recently switch to a 2-hand skorn for uber. Failed miserably. In the same team, I saw a SnB barb, with similar stat as mine rocking. Can someone please give suggestion on minimal but necessary changes for my barb to run in uber MP10. Thanks.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Coolvan31-6976/hero/30387378

p.s. bidding a SS with 9cc and 25% block.
Alright i did some faceroll (No Throw, No Hit n Run, No WOTB) duelling with one of the best S&B's in Asia to test both toughness. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/rustyshark-3949/Rustyshark/16451944

our score is 2-1 and he beat me the first time and i beat him 2 in a row. The first time he beat me is because im using WC-Impunity and i switched afterwards to WC-Vets Warning which boosted my Dodge and based from my observation the Dodge Boost did the trick since he missed a lot of HOTA during the process which then my 3k/sec Life Regen did help. Check out my health pool in the last 2 fights. Take note this guy has around 171k HP with an insane DPS, however i believe my additional DEX and AR did gave me the advantage + my new High black damage Spear.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nq4nx2.png
http://i48.tinypic.com/2d8ezy0.png

EDIT: Also this is a test that my SS > than his RARE Shield.

Nike
Lol i got new shoulders yay! They were only 7m.

Not a lot of eHP, but hey it was like 4k hp and 500 dps improvement so why not.
Alright i did some faceroll (No Throw, No Hit n Run, No WOTB) duelling with one of the best S&B's in Asia to test both toughness. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/rustyshark-3949/Rustyshark/16451944

our score is 2-1 and he beat me the first time and i beat him 2 in a row. The first time he beat me is because im using WC-Impunity and i switched afterwards to WC-Vets Warning which boosted my Dodge and based from my observation the Dodge Boost did the trick since he missed a lot of HOTA during the process which then my 3k/sec Life Regen did help. Check out my health pool in the last 2 fights. Take note this guy has around 171k HP with an insane DPS, however i believe my additional DEX and AR did gave me the advantage + my new High black damage Spear.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nq4nx2.png
http://i48.tinypic.com/2d8ezy0.png

EDIT: Also this is a test that my SS > than his RARE Shield.

Nike


step 1 get skorn
step 2 rend
step 3 profit
Haha yeah mate, any news when the patch will hit live?
Alright i did some faceroll (No Throw, No Hit n Run, No WOTB) duelling with one of the best S&B's in Asia to test both toughness. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/rustyshark-3949/Rustyshark/16451944

our score is 2-1 and he beat me the first time and i beat him 2 in a row. The first time he beat me is because im using WC-Impunity and i switched afterwards to WC-Vets Warning which boosted my Dodge and based from my observation the Dodge Boost did the trick since he missed a lot of HOTA during the process which then my 3k/sec Life Regen did help. Check out my health pool in the last 2 fights. Take note this guy has around 171k HP with an insane DPS, however i believe my additional DEX and AR did gave me the advantage + my new High black damage Spear.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nq4nx2.png
http://i48.tinypic.com/2d8ezy0.png

EDIT: Also this is a test that my SS > than his RARE Shield.

Nike


Nice work,Nike. I really enjoy that duel/test. I am expecting more tests/duels with u.
@Rustyshark - thanks me too bro, btw can we try to duel again with you using a stormshield?
I believe the mitigation and block% is more powerfull thatn vit/life% of the rare shield.
@Rusty - also bro i've seen this in your post in PTR Feedback regarding you issues duelling a monk, and i hope i can help you out

"My charater get nearly 97% reduction( barb,150k armor, and 900 resist). And a monk with 180k DPS can easily cast 80k damages on my charater by one shot "Wave of Light". OMG, 80k damages on a 97%reduction charater! Any monk can easily cast another two shot like this in one second! In this cast, even if a barb or monk get 220k or more HP,he have no chance to survive! And you guys will seriously believe it is balance? With 5% additional reduction can change nothing!"

I've recently dulled with my friend Photon #1 pvp dummy monk in US with 2.3M EHP and 235K DPS
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/photon-1551/PhotonMonk/7881237

So far he has not beaten me and our score was 5-0 and this is the build that im using against him -

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#aciQkR!bcV!YbZbca

I suggest equip a Stormshield+Litany and you will be unbreakable against any Monks.

Never use HOTA with Monks, you will just waste your fury because they will just dodge it. Just use Bash instigation to generate enough fury to keep on casting rends.

Nike
Hi all,

First time in this thread. I have always been ww barb for lvling. Recently switch to a 2-hand skorn for uber. Failed miserably. In the same team, I saw a SnB barb, with similar stat as mine rocking. Can someone please give suggestion on minimal but necessary changes for my barb to run in uber MP10. Thanks.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Coolvan31-6976/hero/30387378

p.s. bidding a SS with 9cc and 25% block.


@Coolvan31 - hey nice setup mate, below are some of my recommendations.

1. Get an SS definitely, i would recommend 30%+ block if possible.
2. Invest on Crit Mempo with at least 4.5cc depending on your budget.
3. Better DPS rings with AR and/or life with it. You can also look for a Litany for a very good price.

Overall: The major area of improvement in your setup is to further increase your AR to about 650+ unbuffed and you need to consider on increase your DPS as well during the process

Nike
What's up S/B barbs. My barb was WW/nado up to para-level 51 before I decided to sell his weapons, helm, gloves, bracer so I can fund my Monk's gears. While farming I found the Mempo I'm wearing now so I decided to play my Barb again.

I've always wanted to try S/B setup so I bought some cheap items: 3M bracer, 1M pants, and a 800k 1.1k, socketed, zero stats axe (sold it eventually for 1.5M and got this 400k mighty weap). I've been doing MP7 key runs and I believe I've only died 2x in 4 days of playing :)

I'm loving the tankiness so far but I need the S/B experts' advice so I can get more DPS in the most efficient manner. I have 140M, can I get to ~120k dps with only one offensive passive (ruthless or wm)?


Balancing DPS and EHP is one of the toughest part of building an efficient S&B, it also comes with patience. I see a couple of things you need to upgrade and change with your current setup.

1. Get an IK glove with High STR, Vit, CD
2. Save for Crit Mempo, min 4.5cc
3. Get a Stormshield with 9+cc
4. Better IK Belt with high STR and VIT, also consider getting a Frenzy or Bash Bonus because you use it more often than WepThrow.
5. Better IK boots with 140+ STR/VIT
6. Better rare bracers with high STR/VIT, 5.5cc+

if you want to benefit on WM we recommend to use a Sword to get the 15% increase damage, This is very effective for HOTA build. Get a sword with 1.1k-1.3k+ DPS, OS, 50%cd with STR/VIT is recommended if budget allows.

Nike

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