Demonic Essence Drop Decrease?

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03/14/2013 02:38 PMPosted by Warmachine
Just playing i find quite a bit.. in all honesty i have no idea what its used for though. could someone enlighten me?


Where you been hiding this last month? :P
playing between mp5-10. I've already had collected > 700 de and used up 300 of them (and crafted nothing better cos its hard to craft 9%ias/10% cc glove/amulets)

i certainly hope improved itemisation means raising the floor of stats (eg: so that eg: if ias rolls its always between 8/9% and cc between 8-10%
The drop rates for Demonic Essences have not been changed, and the drop chance for them does indeed increase with progressively higher Monster Power levels. Demonic Essences drop according to the following conditions and rates which were established in [url="http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/8608455/patch-107-now-live-2-12-2013"]patch 1.0.7[/url]:

  • This reagent is account-bound and can be acquired from Elite monsters, Treasure Goblins, and bosses in Inferno difficulty
    • Major in-game events that grant a stack of Nephalem Valor when completed also have a chance to drop Demonic Essence
    • Note: Nephalem Valor will not be required in order for Demonic Essences to drop
  • Each level of Monster Power will increase the drop chance of Demonic Essence from Elites and bosses according to the following values:
    • MP 0: 15.0000%
    • MP 1: 16.5000%
    • MP 2: 18.1500%
    • MP 3: 19.9650%
    • MP 4: 21.9615%
    • MP 5: 24.1577%
    • MP 6: 26.5734%
    • MP 7: 29.2308%
    • MP 8: 32.1538%
    • MP 9: 35.3692%
    • MP 10: 38.9061%


    just wondering why a blue takes the time to respond to questions like this when the data for DE drop rates are already posted all over the website, when there is a huge thread going on about waller affix.
    reportings AFTER said patched fixed waller.
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6398710019#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5912163542#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6009711448#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6933235017#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8197741104#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6232223815#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6933835429?page=2#23
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6606351383#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7923723272#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6934194441#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7923723272?page=9#166
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7923723272?page=10#186
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7343734317#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5888889501#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149623215#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6036675051#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5978279759#20
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6036453872#1
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6572447366#7

    and that is just a couple pages of results out of 100+pages...
    03/14/2013 05:01 PMPosted by vexorian
    What about archon plans?


    You buy them from the AH.
    Throw a puzzle ring on your follower and no shield and let him get smacked around a few times those goblins drop DE....
    03/14/2013 02:42 PMPosted by Luffy
    Why do you need DE to upgrade gems?

    no. u dont need DE for gem upgrade.


    You do if you want to upgrade to Marquise gems. It takes 10 Demonic Essence, 3 Radiant Star gems, 25 Tomes of Secrets, and 20,000,000 gold for 1 Marquise gem.
    MP 4: 21.9615%
    MP 5: 24.1577%
    MP 6: 26.5734%
    MP 7: 29.2308%
    MP 8: 32.1538%
    MP 9: 35.3692%
    MP 10: 38.9061%


    dat significant figures
    When the patch came out I was averaging about 10 DE per hour. Now its about 4. Trust no one. :-)
    I just ran 3 hours at MF 450 and MP 7 and not one DE. It first downloaded some patch. Even elites are now significantly less. Go figure...
    I have so many DE's I barely stop to pick them up. It would be nice if these weren't BoA, like other things like useless crafted Archon gear.
    I've read a lot about RNG & the speculation that Blizard use it, but I am skeptical that this is true.

    I was playing with my friend on MP6, & within 1 minute of each other, we both got "The Inquisitor" (legendary DH cloak). Using a RNG properly would not produce that result.
    Then yesterday, I played MP7 for 6 hours across 2 acts & collected 300 rares & not 1 legendary. This is not a result of proper RNG use.

    I'm sure there are many players with extremely odd results.

    I would have to see the actual Diablo game code using a RNG to believe it is actually used.
    I have to agree here. Sometimes weird things tend to happen :).
    On one of my sessions on the weekend i found the legendary staff "The Grand Vizier" 3 times in one hour :). How is the chance for this?
    I've read a lot about RNG & the speculation that Blizard use it, but I am skeptical that this is true.

    I was playing with my friend on MP6, & within 1 minute of each other, we both got "The Inquisitor" (legendary DH cloak). Using a RNG properly would not produce that result.
    Then yesterday, I played MP7 for 6 hours across 2 acts & collected 300 rares & not 1 legendary. This is not a result of proper RNG use.

    I'm sure there are many players with extremely odd results.

    I would have to see the actual Diablo game code using a RNG to believe it is actually used.


    A similar thing happened to me as well, Got two legendary weapons within 2 minutes of each other and now nothing all of yesterday with 5-6 hrs of playing across 3 acts.

    Demonic Essences have fallen for me as well. I would easily get 10+ an hr and now i'm lucky to get 4 in an hour. Something has changed.
    please elaborate on this vault of assassin method
    Regardless if it changed or not, it does get annoying to miss one 10 times in a row or more. The last 3 I got took around 30-40 elite kills to get.
    yes you do....for the MARQUISE gems 20million gold and 10 DE per craft

    and i also feel that the drop rate has changed. i collected at least 100 or more on MP1-3 but since i am now able to farm 5-8 i consider myself lucky to get more than 1 per act...increase them to be equal to the Key drop rate on any given act please. i have more keys than i do essences and that just seems silly
    I've become very convinced the best place to farm Demonic Essences is on MP0. yes it's the lowest drop rate, but you can kill everything virtually just by glaring at it. I find 1-3 DE's in a 5-10 minute of MP0(depending on just how much I decide to clear), and like 2-3 in a MP6 run that takes 30 minutes.

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