Please remove Lich King from Arena

Arena Discussion
This game is always going to be pretty RNG based, obviously, but Lich King is too large of a swing. If you have Lich King and the opponent doesn't, they're pretty much !@#$ed. Something has to go seriously wrong for you to lose with this card in Arena. It makes the game mode very unfun and it would be a very simple change to just remove it.
Why not Ysera. Ysera Cards are often better because they are less situational and Ysera is harder to kill. Only difference is LK is new and Ysera has been in the game forever. If you couldn't deal with the 8/8 taunt body you probably would have also lost to just a plain Ironbark. You must not play any other card games if everything comes down to BabyRage my opponent has cards.
Lich King is a powerful dude, but we haven't found it to be more powerful than many of the other cards that exist in arena. Most big taunts in arena tend to be powerful because decks lack the amount of removal they typically have in constructed.

We take the idea of removing cards from arena pretty seriously. The rules for arena drafting are already not as straightforward as we would like and in order to create more special one-off rules a card has to be in extreme violation of how much fun is being had in arena. We thought Vicious Fledgling crossed that line, but not Death Knight, and not the Lich King. That said, I appreciate the feedback. The removal of VF was the result of community feedback combined with our own experiences. If LK turns out to give a lot of those same feels, we'll revisit this discussion.
LK is just a very good legendary, like many others - like ysera who perhaps is most similar. Not too OP to be allowed in arena. Bonemare on the other hand...
10/22/2017 02:17 AMPosted by August Dean Ayala
Lich King is a powerful dude, but we haven't found it to be more powerful than many of the other cards that exist in arena. Most big taunts in arena tend to be powerful because decks lack the amount of removal they typically have in constructed.

We take the idea of removing cards from arena pretty seriously. The rules for arena drafting are already not as straightforward as we would like and in order to create more special one-off rules a card has to be in extreme violation of how much fun is being had in arena. We thought Vicious Fledgling crossed that line, but not Death Knight, and not the Lich King. That said, I appreciate the feedback. The removal of VF was the result of community feedback combined with our own experiences. If LK turns out to give a lot of those same feels, we'll revisit this discussion.


I think if we can remove anything, we should remove legendaries from card generation so that discover or any random card generation wouldn't be as game breaking as it is now.
Not all of us want a stale game of repetetiveness. Strong cards that isnt always bringing the same stuff to the table does make it more enjoyable - at least for me.
10/22/2017 12:10 PMPosted by relaxmeister
Not all of us want a stale game of repetetiveness. Strong cards that isnt always bringing the same stuff to the table does make it more enjoyable - at least for me.

That is true but I am talking about cards like stonehill defender and bone drake. More often than not, you generate legendaries that change the tide of the match. If it is once in a while then I don't mind but that had been happening so often that it is not random as it seems. Like playing stonehill discovering tirion or sunkeeper tarim. Bone drake into onyxia, ysera, deathwing. That is an example of how a single card can be the reason you win or lose the match. Hence fledgling is banned.
Yes, both lichking and ysera are a horrible way to lose. Honestly, most of my losses are because of ysera and the lich king. Without those 2 poggers showing up 30% on my oponnents board everygame I have a much higher chanse to win.!
On the other hand, if they cut off more cards from arena, it will become too repetitive/monotonous. Imagine how bored would veterans would feel.
10/22/2017 02:17 AMPosted by August Dean Ayala
Lich King is a powerful dude, but we haven't found it to be more powerful than many of the other cards that exist in arena. Most big taunts in arena tend to be powerful because decks lack the amount of removal they typically have in constructed.

We take the idea of removing cards from arena pretty seriously. The rules for arena drafting are already not as straightforward as we would like and in order to create more special one-off rules a card has to be in extreme violation of how much fun is being had in arena. We thought Vicious Fledgling crossed that line, but not Death Knight, and not the Lich King. That said, I appreciate the feedback. The removal of VF was the result of community feedback combined with our own experiences. If LK turns out to give a lot of those same feels, we'll revisit this discussion.


You actually think people are still having FUN? That's amazing.
he's rotating out in 2 months but yeah he can be brutal in arena with army of the dead and u're just no board clear done gg RIP WP seeya next game enjoy the RNG loss many of his things are devastating and completely flip the game on it's head

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