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What happened was a great thing for gamers. This emotional knee jerk reaction is coming from people who have no idea what is happening or why.

20% increase in game development should be applauded. Cutting the fat is good for business, investors and gamers.

But people are emotional and busting out myths. No the CEO didn't get 15 million. He got 3.2 and stocks that are based on performance. This is standard in big business. Not to mention other facts people are ignoring like his multiple roles within the company.

Oh Jesse got fired! Good. He was a horrible mod responsible for countless bannings and thread/post deletions that even the die hard Blizz defenders complained killed this forum. No other Blizz forum was as poorly managed. He should have been replaced a long time ago.

If you are a gamer be happy. Blizz is recommitting to game development and cutting out the crap. This is what everyone wanted. So never mind the emotional hatred that is coming from people who have no idea what is happening and understand that this is the best thing Blizz has done in a long time .

They are finally focusing in games again. Well done Blizz.
02/13/2019 05:39 AMPosted by Goramier
If you are a gamer be happy. Blizz is recommitting to game development and cutting out the crap. This is what everyone wanted. So never mind the emotional hatred that is coming from people who have no idea what is happening and understand that this is the best thing Blizz has done in a long time .

They are finally focusing in games again. Well done Blizz.


Just saying they could have easily hold these people and also take developers. They re practically making billions.

What you dont understand is that the greedy stance they have isnt something thats being shown just in their people. It has already started being shown in their games and soon enough its gonna grow even more.
No doubt thats the reason BB left.
02/13/2019 06:39 AMPosted by TheChemist
02/13/2019 05:39 AMPosted by Goramier
If you are a gamer be happy. Blizz is recommitting to game development and cutting out the crap. This is what everyone wanted. So never mind the emotional hatred that is coming from people who have no idea what is happening and understand that this is the best thing Blizz has done in a long time .

They are finally focusing in games again. Well done Blizz.


Just saying they could have easily hold these people and also take developers. They re practically making billions.

What you dont understand is that the greedy stance they have isnt something thats being shown just in their people. It has already started being shown in their games and soon enough its gonna grow even more.
No doubt thats the reason BB left.


Actually I do understand, you clearly don't. You are conflating greed against the players versus internal affairs meant to increase game development. Obviously the knee jerk reaction crowd don't understand big business. This is a great thing.

Players have been asking for more, faster and better quality game development for years. Blizzard is now doing so. Those jobs lost were nonessential and a drain. So they were cut. This frees up a 20% increase in development. That is awesome news for gamers.

Like most things people overreact in ignorance. This is one of those issues.
They sacked 800 employees to make room for "more meaningful roles". whats the meaningful upgrade to a CM look like? To activision it probably means an automated bot as CM.
02/13/2019 05:39 AMPosted by Goramier
What happened was a great thing for gamers. This emotional knee jerk reaction is coming from people who have no idea what is happening or why.

20% increase in game development should be applauded. Cutting the fat is good for business, investors and gamers.

But people are emotional and busting out myths. No the CEO didn't get 15 million. He got 3.2 and stocks that are based on performance. This is standard in big business. Not to mention other facts people are ignoring like his multiple roles within the company.

Oh Jesse got fired! Good. He was a horrible mod responsible for countless bannings and thread/post deletions that even the die hard Blizz defenders complained killed this forum. No other Blizz forum was as poorly managed. He should have been replaced a long time ago.

If you are a gamer be happy. Blizz is recommitting to game development and cutting out the crap. This is what everyone wanted. So never mind the emotional hatred that is coming from people who have no idea what is happening and understand that this is the best thing Blizz has done in a long time .

They are finally focusing in games again. Well done Blizz.


"Dennis Durkin, Activision Blizzard’s new chief financial officer, is getting a bonus worth $15 million for taking the job. The award consists of $11.3 million of stock and an additional $3.75 million in funds. That's in addition to a $900,000 salary and a $1.35 million target bonus." - Every bloody Article regarding the subject.

You're a bloody beacon of ignorance, that you accuse everyone else for being.

Cutting out the spoke people between the community and the players, IS NOT a good a thing. especially someone like Jesse, who's been part of the company for over 10 years.
Hell, they probably outsourcing the management of the forums to a third party company or unexperienced interns, because they're low in cost.

And if you honestly think, they're going to improve the game development based on everything that has happened in the last couple of months, you're delusional.

But hey, one of the Overwatch probably turns out to be a Apache Helicopter in the next week.
02/13/2019 07:03 AMPosted by Goramier


Actually I do understand, you clearly don't. You are conflating greed against the players versus internal affairs meant to increase game development. Obviously the knee jerk reaction crowd don't understand big business. This is a great thing.

Players have been asking for more, faster and better quality game development for years. Blizzard is now doing so. Those jobs lost were nonessential and a drain. So they were cut. This frees up a 20% increase in development. That is awesome news for gamers.

Like most things people overreact in ignorance. This is one of those issues.


Unless you have insider knowledge of Blizzard's plans you are just assuming that the increase in development will be used to create better quality games. For all we know the new developers could be used to make more MOBILE games, which is definitely not what the players are asking for.

At the moment we can only say for sure that the net effect of these layoffs is definitely negative. The quality of customer support will decrease again and this will affect player retention. It wasn't great to begin with, which makes it even worse.
02/13/2019 07:03 AMPosted by Goramier
Actually I do understand, you clearly don't. You are conflating greed against the players versus internal affairs meant to increase game development. Obviously the knee jerk reaction crowd don't understand big business. This is a great thing.

Players have been asking for more, faster and better quality game development for years. Blizzard is now doing so. Those jobs lost were nonessential and a drain. So they were cut. This frees up a 20% increase in development. That is awesome news for gamers.


Fun fact, Hs s development team is about 70 people. So an 20% increase gives us 14 MORE PEOPLE. Like WOW. Im sure they couldnt afford that, especially since Hs is such a burden to blizzard offices. I mean it produces such a little profit....
i have not played or posted in months but i know one thing, layoffs bring tears like 2 mana owl and kill command face did back in beta. Life goes on so stay strong.
02/13/2019 07:30 AMPosted by OniEyes
02/13/2019 05:39 AMPosted by Goramier
What happened was a great thing for gamers. This emotional knee jerk reaction is coming from people who have no idea what is happening or why.

20% increase in game development should be applauded. Cutting the fat is good for business, investors and gamers.

But people are emotional and busting out myths. No the CEO didn't get 15 million. He got 3.2 and stocks that are based on performance. This is standard in big business. Not to mention other facts people are ignoring like his multiple roles within the company.

Oh Jesse got fired! Good. He was a horrible mod responsible for countless bannings and thread/post deletions that even the die hard Blizz defenders complained killed this forum. No other Blizz forum was as poorly managed. He should have been replaced a long time ago.

If you are a gamer be happy. Blizz is recommitting to game development and cutting out the crap. This is what everyone wanted. So never mind the emotional hatred that is coming from people who have no idea what is happening and understand that this is the best thing Blizz has done in a long time .

They are finally focusing in games again. Well done Blizz.


"Dennis Durkin, Activision Blizzard’s new chief financial officer, is getting a bonus worth $15 million for taking the job. The award consists of $11.3 million of stock and an additional $3.75 million in funds. That's in addition to a $900,000 salary and a $1.35 million target bonus." - Every bloody Article regarding the subject.

You're a bloody beacon of ignorance, that you accuse everyone else for being.

Cutting out the spoke people between the community and the players, IS NOT a good a thing. especially someone like Jesse, who's been part of the company for over 10 years.
Hell, they probably outsourcing the management of the forums to a third party company or unexperienced interns, because they're low in cost.

And if you honestly think, they're going to improve the game development based on everything that has happened in the last couple of months, you're delusional.

But hey, one of the Overwatch probably turns out to be a Apache Helicopter in the next week.


Wrong.

You can cry and stamp your feet on the ground but you are wrong. As passions lesson and the increase in development happens gamers will be happy. I for one, applaud Blizzard for finally getting back to gaming.

Also I realise that leftism has people crying foul over a CEO's earnings but that's your ignorance not mine.

Blizzard will be expected to have increased game development output by it's customers and against increasing competition. If they fail that, they will be cutting many more jobs then a few non essentials and those who were bad at what they did.
02/13/2019 07:30 AMPosted by OniEyes
Hell, they probably outsourcing the management of the forums to a third party company or unexperienced interns, because they're low in cost.

Honestly, my fear is that the forums will be completely abandoned to themselves in favour of Reddit.

They already make annoncements on Reddit before we evere hear them here.
02/13/2019 07:55 AMPosted by Morthasa
02/13/2019 07:30 AMPosted by OniEyes
Hell, they probably outsourcing the management of the forums to a third party company or unexperienced interns, because they're low in cost.

Honestly, my fear is that the forums will be completely abandoned to themselves in favour of Reddit.

They already make annoncements on Reddit before we evere hear them here.
With the last sctive Blue for over s year now being laid off, yeah. They're done with these forums unless a new Team 5 member jumps on here and says otherwise.

*looks around

Yeah, they're done.
02/13/2019 07:51 AMPosted by Goramier
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"Dennis Durkin, Activision Blizzard’s new chief financial officer, is getting a bonus worth $15 million for taking the job. The award consists of $11.3 million of stock and an additional $3.75 million in funds. That's in addition to a $900,000 salary and a $1.35 million target bonus." - Every bloody Article regarding the subject.

You're a bloody beacon of ignorance, that you accuse everyone else for being.

Cutting out the spoke people between the community and the players, IS NOT a good a thing. especially someone like Jesse, who's been part of the company for over 10 years.
Hell, they probably outsourcing the management of the forums to a third party company or unexperienced interns, because they're low in cost.

And if you honestly think, they're going to improve the game development based on everything that has happened in the last couple of months, you're delusional.

But hey, one of the Overwatch probably turns out to be a Apache Helicopter in the next week.


Wrong.

You can cry and stamp your feet on the ground but you are wrong. As passions lesson and the increase in development happens gamers will be happy. I for one, applaud Blizzard for finally getting back to gaming.

Also I realise that leftism has people crying foul over a CEO's earnings but that's your ignorance not mine.

Blizzard will be expected to have increased game development output by it's customers and against increasing competition. If they fail that, they will be cutting many more jobs then a few non essentials and those who were bad at what they did.


Arrogance is strong in this one.

First you deny that CEO got the bonus, when proven wrong, you deny it of any importance.

You're not saying anything of importance nor for the sake of discussion.

The biggest constructive critique Blizzard has received from the community, their ex-developers of their most popular franchises is that they're out of touch with their own community and their biggest fans.

But logical, let's fire the people whom work with the community!

Brilliant move.

But hey, I'm guessing you have a phone.

And honestly, using Leftism as something to derail my point - are you serious, did you even read my post? you're proving again you don't bring anything worthwhile to the discussion.
Just to bring some clarity, Hearthstone is one of the games listed as receiving more developmental attentuon going forward, per a quote from the earnings report:
The
number of developers working on Call of Duty, Candy Crush, Overwatch, Warcraft®, Hearthstone and Diablo®
in aggregate will increase approximately 20% over the course of 2019. The company will fund this greater
investment by de-prioritizing initiatives that are not meeting expectations and reducing certain non-development
and administrative-related costs across the business.


This is from J. Allen Brack:
Blizzard Community…

Over the past few months, I’ve met with many people throughout Blizzard, talking about how we create our future. One thing that remains constant: we are committed to creating epic games and entertainment experiences. 

Our development pipeline is strong, and we have the largest lineup of games that we’ve ever had. At the same time, Blizzard tries to have a level of craftsmanship and excellence in all that we do. Maintaining those standards as we continue expanding these worlds takes both time and talented developers.

With that in mind, we have plans to add to game development. We are dedicated to bringing you more content across existing game franchises and bringing our unannounced projects to life. Esports and the Overwatch League are also important priorities, and we will continue to produce great competitive content. 

To better support these priorities, we need to reorganize some of our non-development teams. As a result, we will be reducing the number of non-development positions in North America and anticipate a related process in our regional offices over the coming months subject to local requirements. This was an extremely difficult decision, and we want to acknowledge the effort of everyone who has contributed to Blizzard. To assist with the transition, we are offering each impacted employee a severance package that includes additional pay, benefits continuation, and career and recruiting support to help them find their next opportunity. These people are members of the Blizzard family—they’ve cared deeply and contributed greatly to our work here and we are extremely grateful for all they’ve done.

As difficult as some of these organizational changes are, I am confident in Blizzard’s future and we will continue working hard to live up to not only our mission, but your expectations. We look forward to sharing everything with you when it’s ready.

J. Allen Brack
The internet is full of snowflakes these days, but Jesse wasn't one of them. Any staff member who's objective enough not to punish people they disagree with is good in my book. Bounce back kiddo, you've got the chops.
Alas - Jesse was pretty much the only actual contact with the dev team the forum had. This pretty much cements the reality that these forums will be the hinterlands while free (more popular) places like Reddit get dev interaction. Nothing particularly new about that, but it's unfortunate that even T5's only token representation now got the boot. Best wishes for Jesse. Hopefully he finds a new situation quickly. He was a good one, and he'll be missed. :(

what a ridiculous idea to fire a CM like him when you made RECORD profits.


Education time.

The report did not say that Activision/Blizzard had record PROFITS. It said that they generated record REVENUE. That is a distinction that many laypersons simply don't understand ... particularly when it comes to the financial side of a business, the stock market, investments, and earnings reports.

Publicly traded businesses must pay careful attention to the INVESTMENT profitability of their company. A company whose stock is making its investors a good return will be able to parley that into further investment, bonuses for employees, budget for development and new projects, and many other very positive outcomes that strongly benefit the long-term stability of the company. When the company is making its investors a profit, then times are VERY good. Being part of a company that is on that half of the pendulum is heady and really fun.

So making sure the company is earning the stockholders and investors a good profit is very important. Without that profitability, bonuses dry up ... R&D money goes away ... SG&E deflates ... and a huge host of bad dominoes start to fall. When a company is on that half of the pendulum, then it can be like walking around a morgue. It can even result in the company being bought out by shark investors who WANT it to fail so they can make money from the corpse (see ToysRUs).

So keeping the "street" happy is important. And the "street" doesn't care if a company has a huge amount of REVENUE but there aren't any PROFITS.

If I sell 2 Billion in product ... but my expenditures in the same year are 1,999,999,990 ... then my profit is only $10. Investors are not stupid. When an earning's report talks about "huge revenue" but mentions nothing about its operating costs? Yeah - investors aren't suckered by that. They look at the real numbers and say, "Record revenues do not mean record profits" and ... see above ... bad times.

So the company has to make sure investors don't panic, get nervous, or start jumping ship. They have to stay profitable. And remember, profitability to stockholders and investors is completely different from how many units of product the company sold in a year.

So how does a company show a profit to investors if revenue alone didn't cut it? There's only one other way a company CAN move that lever ... and that is to reduce expenses.

And - sadly - the most direct ways a company has to directly impact its expenses is to reduce overhead. And the vast majority of a company's overhead is found in its workforce/staff. That's because employee headcount includes insurance costs, benefits packages, YOY raises, bonuses, and a lot of other hidden stuff that most people don't see (but that add up very quickly on the "expense" side of the profitability equation).

It's easy (and a bit lazy) to point fingers at CEOs who get a bonus when 800 baseline employees get laid off. But on a corporate SG&A statement, those 800 employees add up to a LOT of money than one-time executive bonuses. From a financial perspective, executive bonuses are not ongoing drags on a balance sheet. They're one-time payments that quite often don't even actually matter when figuring out the annual SG&A for a company.

And - of course - another sad reality is that not every employee is necessary to a company in terms of its long term or even short term profitability. All organizations have redundant roles, excess middle management, and even entire departments that no longer 'fit' into a business's current needs. Not only can headcount be let go without an impact on revenue, but in many cases reducing that headcount can powerfully lift a company's SG&A returns ... which makes the company "profitable" to an investor even if the company's revenue-to-expense ledger says it was a flat year.

I've lived through this. I've seen 'fat' company years where things were great, profits were up, and everything was awesome. I've also seen the lean years where investor profits were down. When those bad years happen, a company that is willing to go through the short-term suffering of a reorganization can come back with many years of profits which benefit everyone.

These cycles happen, and when the years are down it sucks. Layoffs suck too. But good things can come from them. And from experience I know that people who get laid off quite frequently end up in better places ... and many times get re-hired into BETTER jobs back at the place that let them go in the first place. It's not the end of the world.

People who go around with the attitude that no one should ever be laid off and that businesses should never reorganize or restructure ... it must be said ... are somewhat naive. No organization can survive with that sort of approach. They become slow, bloated, sprawling, inefficient behemoths. I.E. They become like a government.
02/13/2019 08:18 AMPosted by Wardrum
Just to bring some clarity, Hearthstone is one of the games listed as receiving more developmental attentuon going forward, per a quote from the earnings report:
The
number of developers working on Call of Duty, Candy Crush, Overwatch, Warcraft®, Hearthstone and Diablo®
in aggregate will increase approximately 20% over the course of 2019. The company will fund this greater
investment by de-prioritizing initiatives that are not meeting expectations and reducing certain non-development
and administrative-related costs across the business.



Really makes me rejoin with hope, that they include Candy Crush and Call of Duty in that list.

Jesus.

This line also worries me;
Our development pipeline is strong, and we have the largest lineup of games that we’ve ever had. At the same time, Blizzard tries to have a level of craftsmanship and excellence in all that we do. Maintaining those standards as we continue expanding these worlds takes both time and talented developers


Essentially, he's saying they're pushing/rushing production on everyone of these franchises and therefor needs a bigger workstaff while ditching their non-profitable franchises.

Aiming to push out content isnt going to make quality content, but it makes their investors happy.
Also using the hallow name of "Blizzard" to assure people about quality and craftmanship, maybe once but not anymore.
Farewell Jesse.

Thanks for all the efforts you've put into this community. You will be remembered.
Watch the forums go to total sh*t now
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Wrong.

You can cry and stamp your feet on the ground but you are wrong. As passions lesson and the increase in development happens gamers will be happy. I for one, applaud Blizzard for finally getting back to gaming.

Also I realise that leftism has people crying foul over a CEO's earnings but that's your ignorance not mine.

Blizzard will be expected to have increased game development output by it's customers and against increasing competition. If they fail that, they will be cutting many more jobs then a few non essentials and those who were bad at what they did.


Arrogance is strong in this one.

First you deny that CEO got the bonus, when proven wrong, you deny it of any importance.

You're not saying anything of importance nor for the sake of discussion.

The biggest constructive critique Blizzard has received from the community, their ex-developers of their most popular franchises is that they're out of touch with their own community and their biggest fans.

But logical, let's fire the people whom work with the community!

Brilliant move.

But hey, I'm guessing you have a phone.

And honestly, using Leftism as something to derail my point - are you serious, did you even read my post? you're proving again you don't bring anything worthwhile to the discussion.


You have no idea what you're talking about which is why you are making up stuff, insulting and putting words in my mouth. Get educated before speaking please. Thanks ;)
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