Selling accounts..

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Didn't see anything in rules about this..

I just checked what ppl sold accounts for on ebay..

someone had full wild collection and almost standard, a claimed $7000 investment go for $400

Another guy, 146 Leggos and 17,000 dust sold for $315

While that is kind of a lot, its also pretty cheap if u think about it..

I have like half of this, but a really awesome name..
what do u think it would go for?
https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement
All Accounts, including the name of the Account and any Battle Tags associated with an Account. All use of an Account shall inure to Blizzard’s benefit. Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift, or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void and may result in the forfeiture of the Account;
I don't get why its 'not allowed,' such a bold statement should have a good reason why. Seems like a violation of rights.

its the individual's personal time investment toward another's. has nothing to do with the company losing any sort of money or something.

They have plenty of other things they should be doing stuff about.
Because for many players, Hearthstone isn't the only game on their account. Remember, the item for sale here is a battle.net account. Blizz (like most other companies) doesn't want people reselling their other games, which (unlike HS) all need to be paid for.
02/19/2019 08:54 PMPosted by Estelyen
Because for many players, Hearthstone isn't the only game on their account. Remember, the item for sale here is a battle.net account. Blizz (like most other companies) doesn't want people reselling their other games, which (unlike HS) all need to be paid for.
Pretty much this. It probably is to prevent any legal issue also. Like, you selling your own account is less the problem. But selling and buying hacked account can be. This is also to prevent achievement/title trading and such. In HS, there is only legendary card back, which is not really an issue. But other games have title, leaderboard, reward, esports related stuff depending on rank, which is limited to only fraction of players.
02/19/2019 01:57 PMPosted by SuperLegend
Didn't see anything in rules about this..

I just checked what ppl sold accounts for on ebay..

someone had full wild collection and almost standard, a claimed $7000 investment go for $400

Another guy, 146 Leggos and 17,000 dust sold for $315

While that is kind of a lot, its also pretty cheap if u think about it..

I have like half of this, but a really awesome name..
what do u think it would go for?


This is a no-brainer right here.

First off, your account, yeah, it is not your account, it is property of Blizzard/Activision. No matter how much money you have on "your" account, once it is on your account, it no longer belongs to you, it ceases to be yours and becomes theirs. Your card collection? Yeah, you guessed it, it doesn't belong to you.

And you cannot sell something that belongs to someone else.

You ever wonder why they always tell you that employees of "X" game company will never ask for your pass word? It is because they already have it.

Additionally... The mere existence of this thread is a violation of the terms of service.

Furthermore... How is it that someone can have a complete set of wild format cards and not simultaneously have a complete set of standard format cards?

This is an obvious scam. It would be different if they said it was a complete standard format collection but with an incomplete wild format collection. At least that makes sense.

You cannot have a complete wild format collection without a complete standard collection. As the wild format INCLUDES the standard collection.

Anyway, I just wanted to get this in here before this thread is closed. That is assuming the moderators do their jobs, hell, assuming there are any moderators at all.
02/20/2019 03:06 AMPosted by MetalX
You ever wonder why they always tell you that employees of "X" game company will never ask for your pass word? It is because they already have it.

They do not have access to plaintext passwords unless they're even more incompetent than the most ardent haters claim they are. And very few will have access to the database with the encrypted passwords (and only because their work requires them to have that access).

Employees do not need your password because they have tools that allow them to perform the tasks their position entitles them to. If a CS rep needs to see what an account looks like (transactions, games, whatever), they have a tool that gives them a view of that account and if they have the proper rights they will be able to change things. But they are not using the password of that account to do so.
02/19/2019 01:57 PMPosted by SuperLegend
Didn't see anything in rules about this..

I just checked what ppl sold accounts for on ebay..

someone had full wild collection and almost standard, a claimed $7000 investment go for $400

Another guy, 146 Leggos and 17,000 dust sold for $315

While that is kind of a lot, its also pretty cheap if u think about it..

I have like half of this, but a really awesome name..
what do u think it would go for?


i would get it for 5 cents, no more, just for the name since the game itself is dead and you don't own anything yourself.
02/20/2019 03:06 AMPosted by MetalX
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First off, your account, yeah, it is not your account, it is property of Blizzard/Activision. No matter how much money you have on "your" account, once it is on your account, it no longer belongs to you, it ceases to be yours and becomes theirs. Your card collection? Yeah, you guessed it, it doesn't belong to you.

And you cannot sell something that belongs to someone else.

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This is BS.

A personal account is intellectual property. It's the one right players should have when downloading a free game they make invetment $ on.
It's directly hypocritical when random players can make money streaming, selling shirts, or whatever but cant sell their account.

Without one individual putting their time and effort into an empty game model, there is nothing.
When another individual agrees on a price to save them emmense time, money, effort, there is something fair going on. Players know what intellectual efforts they are considering at hand from an empty game model.

While it shouldnt be turned into a business for players to resell accounts, everyone should be entitled to sell one account.
In favour of selling account prohibition: you deal with a random owner who may return his account at any time after a bargain and you are absolutely lose in this situation because Blizzard will recognize rights for a true owner
02/21/2019 07:28 AMPosted by Frosthero
In favour of selling account prohibition: you deal with a random owner who may return his account at any time after a bargain and you are absolutely lose in this situation because Blizzard will recognize rights for a true owner


if u get scammed in any way, you report it to the selling and payment services in regard to what u agreed to, not blizzard.
in completed deals I seen nothing but positive feedback.

this is the only argument u trolls have..?
You do realise you agreed to certain terms, right? No matter how "unfair" they may seem to you, you AGREED to them. If you dislike it, you have only yourself to blame.
02/21/2019 11:50 AMPosted by Horatio
You do realise you agreed to certain terms, right? No matter how "unfair" they may seem to you, you AGREED to them. If you dislike it, you have only yourself to blame.


no one reads or agrees to any terms, they just click the box and start playing.

and that doesnt change the fact its a 2-way BS violation of rights.

if someone wants to pay for an established account and not start from scratch in this miserable experience of a game, they should be able to.


if someone wants to pay for an established account and not start from scratch in this miserable experience of a game, they should be able to.


What's the advantage of purchasing an account with a full-collection over just buying the cards yourself? Card backs? Golden portraits? So, only for cosmetics that are supposed to be earned? That'd be the equivalent of purchasing a participation trophy in a snail race.
02/21/2019 07:54 PMPosted by freckles


if someone wants to pay for an established account and not start from scratch in this miserable experience of a game, they should be able to.


What's the advantage of purchasing an account with a full-collection over just buying the cards yourself? Card backs? Golden portraits? So, only for cosmetics that are supposed to be earned? That'd be the equivalent of purchasing a participation trophy in a snail race.

in response to your cluelessness, you must have forgot how difficult/expensive it is to unlock cards. Could you actually imagine having no collection and starting from scratch? There is no way you could do that now and have any type of a good time.

Anyway:

read the first post, someone spent $7000 and resold for $400

Someone just made a thread about spending $20 on the 30 pack deal or whatever, got no legendary, and was pissed.. Someone here paid $400 and got a full account and will have practically no stress playing game.

this is what u corporate wannabes are complaing about.

furthermore:

the dude who spent $7000 obviously isn't spending any more,
the dude who bought the $7000 account most likely will spend more $ on deals, when they obviously were not inclined to start an account from scratch for free, which they could have done.

so this common sense works out on blizzards end
...no one reads or agrees to any terms, they just click the box and start playing...


You totally deserve everything that's coming to you.
02/20/2019 08:11 AMPosted by SuperLegend
02/20/2019 03:06 AMPosted by MetalX
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First off, your account, yeah, it is not your account, it is property of Blizzard/Activision. No matter how much money you have on "your" account, once it is on your account, it no longer belongs to you, it ceases to be yours and becomes theirs. Your card collection? Yeah, you guessed it, it doesn't belong to you.

And you cannot sell something that belongs to someone else.



This is BS.

A personal account is intellectual property. It's the one right players should have when downloading a free game they make invetment $ on.
It's directly hypocritical when random players can make money streaming, selling shirts, or whatever but cant sell their account.

Without one individual putting their time and effort into an empty game model, there is nothing.
When another individual agrees on a price to save them emmense time, money, effort, there is something fair going on. Players know what intellectual efforts they are considering at hand from an empty game model.

While it shouldnt be turned into a business for players to resell accounts, everyone should be entitled to sell one account.[/quote]

Hahahahaha!!!

This is not your personal account. That is just a reality you have to deal with. You don't have to like it, nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to like it. But that is the reality nonetheless, your "personal account" is anything but personal.

If they want to hop into your account and clear you out, they can do that. And there is nothing you can do but complain about it. You signed the TOS, it clearly states that everything here and in-game, are all the property of Activision/Blizzard. You signed that agreement. You already agreed to it. You gave your thumbs up to that policy. And you have done the same thing with every online game you have ever played, if you have played others.
It's the only way to get Tyrande and Khadgar heroes now.

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