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I guess did not learn from Diablo so they figure push hearthstone toward more OTK remove deck even are worth playing and top it off with talks of make world of Warcraft free to play and pay to win soon.
So blizzard what else can you do to kill your player base anymore, having you lost money because people are tired of you screw thing up their favorite games.
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dont know where did you read that but the article posted on the layoffs thread mentions they shifting their focus to HS among other games
02/14/2019 12:10 PMPosted by Boreas
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dont know where did you read that but the article posted on the layoffs thread mentions they shifting their focus to HS among other games

Yeah, like Candy Crush.

Expect the worst, hope for the best.

I leaning more to the former.
02/14/2019 11:50 AMPosted by GostTemplar
I guess did not learn from Diablo so they figure push hearthstone toward more OTK remove deck even are worth playing and top it off with talks of make world of Warcraft free to play and pay to win soon.
So blizzard what else can you do to kill your player base anymore, having you lost money because people are tired of you screw thing up their favorite games.


Activision killed blizzard games cause they re greedy. OTK is simply a terrible meta but will pass. What won t pass is this companys behavior....

780 people getting fired? LOL.

Why expect them to respect the consumer when they can t respect the people working for them?

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This is what capitalism is.
MAKE PROFIT. Who cares if no one can afford your product.
02/14/2019 05:04 PMPosted by EmeraldBoar
MAKE PROFIT. Who cares if no one can afford your product.


How do you make a profit if no one can afford your product?
780 people getting fired? Why expect them to respect the consumer when they cant respect the people working for them?


I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.
02/14/2019 05:49 PMPosted by TheRiddler
780 people getting fired? Why expect them to respect the consumer when they cant respect the people working for them?


I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.


There's a big difference between "never lay off anyone" and "lay off almost 10% of your staff in the [Edited by Blizzard] way possible." I don't think most people criticizing Blizzard do so because of the layoffs (although there are valid reasons there as well), but because of how the layoffs were done.

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02/14/2019 11:50 AMPosted by GostTemplar
I guess did not learn from Diablo so they figure push hearthstone toward more OTK remove deck even are worth playing and top it off with talks of make world of Warcraft free to play and pay to win soon.
So blizzard what else can you do to kill your player base anymore, having you lost money because people are tired of you screw thing up their favorite games.


I want to go in the time machine they have that lets them make gameplay decisions in the present and redesign the cards they made a year or two ago so they can define the meta.

Yet it’s absolutely idiotic they used it for that rather than changing their poorly received Blizzcon announcements.
There are a lot of business management experts who believe that you should lay off a portion (5-10% or so) of your work force on a regular basis, independent of how well or poorly your business is performing. And it seems like it makes perfect sense if your goal is maximum productivity, rather than blind loyalty.

Let's say you have a group of 20 people. You lay off 10% of them. That's 2 people. If you're not a complete dimwit, you'll pick the 2 people that are the least useful to your organization. And now you have 2 open spots to hire the best possible people out of all the people in the world. Unless you are grossly incompetent at managing and interviewing people, you've just replaced your worst 2 performing people with the best two people available out of the entire universe of workers. A clear improvement. Lather rinse repeat. At some point, your workforce is so good, that the negative morale from layoffs will be a larger negative than the increased skills from hiring better workers, but that would probably take several cycles of it.

I worked for a company that believed this theory. And while I absolutely HATED having to fire my worst 2 people every few years, I have to admit in hindsight that the people I replace them with were pretty routinely better performers.

Sometimes random negative business conditions are just an excellent excuse to cull the dead wood and replace them with some superstars from outside your organization.
02/14/2019 06:33 PMPosted by BadSoup
There are a lot of business management experts who believe that you should lay off a portion (5-10% or so) of your work force on a regular basis, independent of how well or poorly your business is performing. And it seems like it makes perfect sense if your goal is maximum productivity, rather than blind loyalty.

Let's say you have a group of 20 people. You lay off 10% of them. That's 2 people. If you're not a complete dimwit, you'll pick the 2 people that are the least useful to your organization. And now you have 2 open spots to hire the best possible people out of all the people in the world. Unless you are grossly incompetent at managing and interviewing people, you've just replaced your worst 2 performing people with the best two people available out of the entire universe of workers. A clear improvement. Lather rinse repeat. At some point, your workforce is so good, that the negative morale from layoffs will be a larger negative than the increased skills from hiring better workers, but that would probably take several cycles of it.

I worked for a company that believed this theory. And while I absolutely HATED having to fire my worst 2 people every few years, I have to admit in hindsight that the people I replace them with were pretty routinely better performers.

Sometimes random negative business conditions are just an excellent excuse to cull the dead wood and replace them with some superstars from outside your organization.


That’s what they said to us too. I work in a high risk sector and leadership always had the excuse that money is tight for hiring and training. Until they continued cutting and demanding unrealistic results to the point where we had major life ending accidents.

Obviously nobody is getting killed if PvE sucks next expansion, but it all seems like a publicity stunt for the shareholders more than a meticulously studied long term plan for the betterment of their ongoing projects.
02/14/2019 05:49 PMPosted by TheRiddler
780 people getting fired? Why expect them to respect the consumer when they cant respect the people working for them?


I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.


There's a huge issue when execs get millions and billions while simultaneously doing a terrible job (stocks and sales are based on their decisions, not the developers decisions)

Stockholders as well have simply become crazy and greedy AF.

When you have record sales and simultaneously fail to meet goals. That's insane.

Simply put, every greedy mf sees Epic's success and says: if you don't make me billions somehow then screw you.

And this leads to overmonetized products that will, once more, fail hard because 1$ dots. And it will repeat till gaming industry completely crashes due to all those, long long gone "triple A" producers (now they are at best B- producers).

No matter how anyone cuts it, since both Morhaimes left, since blizz CEOs left, Blizzard is no more.

Since the start of 2018 Activision methodically killed its own titles and then started killing blizzard titles. No one is left from old blizzard anymore to oppose them.

As for shifting focus to HS, that's just the candy crash saga all over again.

Expect to see yearly, rushed, repetitive rehashes of all the games we once loved.
02/14/2019 05:49 PMPosted by TheRiddler
780 people getting fired? Why expect them to respect the consumer when they cant respect the people working for them?


I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.


Expecting companies to not lay off people when having record profits isn’t unreasonable.

Employees are not tools. Morale matters, unhappy workers are unproductive workers. Unproductive workers are bad at making companies money.
02/14/2019 11:50 AMPosted by GostTemplar
I guess did not learn from Diablo so they figure push hearthstone toward more OTK remove deck even are worth playing and top it off with talks of make world of Warcraft free to play and pay to win soon.
So blizzard what else can you do to kill your player base anymore, having you lost money because people are tired of you screw thing up their favorite games.
they are desperate. activision was the worst thing for blizzard.

I think they should it thier losses and pull up thier socks
02/14/2019 05:49 PMPosted by TheRiddler
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I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.


Expecting companies to not lay off people when having record profits isn’t unreasonable.

Employees are not tools. Morale matters, unhappy workers are unproductive workers. Unproductive workers are bad at making companies money.
and bad company balance and design, leads us to where we are today.
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I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.


Expecting companies to not lay off people when having record profits isn’t unreasonable.

Employees are not tools. Morale matters, unhappy workers are unproductive workers. Unproductive workers are bad at making companies money.
False.

The universe exists so large companies can make money and acquire all available resources. Once completely dominant, those companies will need to invest in multiverse travelling technology so that they can acquire all wealth and resources from all other universes as well.
02/14/2019 05:04 PMPosted by EmeraldBoar
This is what capitalism is.
MAKE PROFIT. Who cares if no one can afford your product.


Blizzard make perfect game = long time profit

Activision only exploits brands = short time profit
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Expecting companies to not lay off people when having record profits isn’t unreasonable.

Employees are not tools. Morale matters, unhappy workers are unproductive workers. Unproductive workers are bad at making companies money.
and bad company balance and design, leads us to where we are today.


“Where we are today” is Activision-Blizzard posting record earnings.
02/14/2019 05:49 PMPosted by TheRiddler
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I have no intent on minimizing the jarring and disruptive effect of a company layoff. It sucks and no one likes them. I've been through a couple of them myself, and it's a major bummer.

That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.

Those who go around expecting a company to never lay off anyone, to never have to reorganize, and to keep people working on tasks that are unprofitable are honestly living in some nonsense universe. Companies don't - and shouldn't - operate that way.


Expecting companies to not lay off people when having record profits isn’t unreasonable.

Employees are not tools. Morale matters, unhappy workers are unproductive workers. Unproductive workers are bad at making companies money.


Workers afraid of losing their job can be very productive.

Companies have no conscience. Their only incentive is to maximize profits and if that means treating employees like trash, that's what they will do.

Unfortunately Americans have been really suspectible to neoliberal progaganda and so even the most reasonable policy suggestions about preventing exploitative and predatory market practices have been marked as socialist and anti-american.
02/14/2019 05:49 PMPosted by TheRiddler
That being said, companies are not charities. They do not exist to supply people jobs. They exist to sell things and make money. Jobs are nothing more than tasks that a company seeks to accomplish to that end.


I am so sorry you are one of those people.. They DO exist to supply jobs for without workers you CAN'T make money (simple economics).. Also only GREEDY moronic companies that only care about money will ruin their brand eventually because they want to much to fast and ARE NOT willing to put forth the effort needed to make decent profits while retaining skilled workers.

Fact remains that almost every BIG company pays their employees crap while their CEO's get millions (and that is only 1 of the problems). No CEO deserves millions while the workers barley make any money.

You can make a decent profit while retaining your skilled workers AND still put out decent materials -- Activision just chooses not to.

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