Why is TLV allowed in QM?

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I have had the misfortune to play with 3 Vikings my past 5 games and have been total unfun and death everywhere. I try to do my best to carry, but it is useless. 1 game with a troll TLV and 2 others with a 9 death TLV who doesn't know anything about the hero.

I am new to this game, and it is forcing me to stop playing. This QM disparity and lack of balance is a fun killer, and ultimately I'd rather go back to LOL where at least I can carry than waste my time in hopeless games.

I can't play ranked yet since I have to level 16 heroes to 5, and I'm trying to do that in QM, but it is impossible to enjoy games.
Where should they play as TLV against real players?
AHEM

There's a plenty good reason for TLV to be in QM. They are a character in Heroes of the Storm.

Also, you are INCREDIBLY unlucky. Despite me being a lost vikings player, When I am not playing Vikings I barely ever see the troublesome trio!

Sorry for you being unlucky, chumbo. I at least hope the next time you get them, you get a TLV player with experience.

EDIT: Wait a minute, 9 Deaths? Are you sure? That means like 36 Viking Deaths! You know each viking death counts for a quarter of a kill, right? If vikings die 9 times, that's only 2.25 deaths in total.
AHEM

EDIT: Wait a minute, 9 Deaths? Are you sure? That means like 36 Viking Deaths! You know each viking death counts for a quarter of a kill, right? If vikings die 9 times, that's only 2.25 deaths in total.


Yes sir.. 9 deaths which means 27.
Anyway.. I care less. I tried this game and I thought it was fun. But apparently the retardness bug runs from the game developer to the players.
Off to the better moba LOL.
09/01/2018 09:26 AMPosted by Geisard
AHEM

EDIT: Wait a minute, 9 Deaths? Are you sure? That means like 36 Viking Deaths! You know each viking death counts for a quarter of a kill, right? If vikings die 9 times, that's only 2.25 deaths in total.


Yes sir.. 9 deaths which means 27.
Anyway.. I care less. I tried this game and I thought it was fun. But apparently the retardness bug runs from the game developer to the players.
Off to the better moba LOL.
Well, bye then!
09/01/2018 09:26 AMPosted by Geisard
Yes sir.. 9 deaths which means 27.
Anyway.. I care less. I tried this game and I thought it was fun. But apparently the retardness bug runs from the game developer to the players.


Cuz 9x4=27...
In QM, if you don' t like your team comp, you have 5 seconds to Alt-F4 out of the game before the match starts. Then just log back in and requeue.. Much faster then wasting a half hour with a troll player.
09/01/2018 09:53 AMPosted by Rasalom
In QM, if you don' t like your team comp, you have 5 seconds to Alt-F4 out of the game before the match starts. Then just log back in and requeue.. Much faster then wasting a half hour with a troll player.


Or Blizz could just implement a "cancel" button but...
I'm willing to bet the problem is that you and your teammates don't know how to play with TLV since you have a problem with them every time.
When I see TLV in my QM team I use the 5 seconds startcounter to press ALT-F4. Why?
First of all the game gets cancelled and doesn't hurt somebody. Basically the disadvantage is so huge when you need to play a 2 lane map like BoE, Mines or Braxxis that I will not spend 15-20 minutes of my life for it.

And this is a good example why the current QM doesn't work at all. It should be a blindpick mode where you see the map and what your team plays before, but should still allow to play everything you want in that second with the knowledge you already have.
When I see TLV in my team I use the 5 seconds startcounter to press ALT-F4. Why?
First of all the game gets cancelled and doesn't hurt somebody. Basically the disadvantage is so huge when you need to play a 2 lane map like BoE, Mines or Braxxis that I will not spend 15-20 minutes of my life for it.

And this is a good example why the current QM doesn't work at all. It should be a blindpick mode where you see the map and what your team plays before, but should still allow to play everything you want in that second with the knowledge you already have.


I've said this 100 times before. QM should be ready up as a hero. Your team gets made (no chat between anyone) you see your team comp, enemy classes, and map, you then have 30 seconds after the last hero was adjusted to adjust your hero with no more then 90 seconds of adjustments. Remove all class rules from the mode as well since the player can adjust to fill the party should they feel something is missing from the team. Obviously no one on your team can switch to the hero you had readied up with unless you have switched to another hero already.
09/01/2018 12:41 PMPosted by aubergine
When I see TLV in my QM team I use the 5 seconds startcounter to press ALT-F4.


no matter why... this is the biggest D-move anybody could pull...

TLV aren't a bad pick, even on 2 lane maps... of the player can micromanage they have great pushing power and your team can work around them...

or they could solo lane and the rest of your team can push the other lane (forcing the enemy to send backup to the TLV lane every so often if not the intire match)

you sir should get banned from this game without warning...
If you don't like random teams & heroes play draft modes. QM is about adaptability & working with random unknown heroes, team comps & map.

Now regarding 9 deaths on TLVs either new viking player or toll feeder. This also depend on who against. Strong burst can just delete them. Also vikings are about exp lvl lead & that 4 players can group up leaving laning to vikings. You as a team play it safer early match.
Yeah it's a good place to practice them. Are they free week? That may have something to do with what you're dealing with.
09/01/2018 01:57 PMPosted by Havik223
Yeah it's a good place to practice them. Are they free week? That may have something to do with what you're dealing with.


They aren't on free rotation actually, so it's kinda odd he had that many TLV games in such short span. Tough luck indeed.
09/01/2018 11:54 AMPosted by Feng
09/01/2018 09:53 AMPosted by Rasalom
In QM, if you don' t like your team comp, you have 5 seconds to Alt-F4 out of the game before the match starts. Then just log back in and requeue.. Much faster then wasting a half hour with a troll player.


Or Blizz could just implement a "cancel" button but...


I agree.. but Blizz doesn't have this feature, so you use what you have.
09/01/2018 01:26 PMPosted by Bukkit
09/01/2018 12:41 PMPosted by aubergine
When I see TLV in my QM team I use the 5 seconds startcounter to press ALT-F4.


no matter why... this is the biggest D-move anybody could pull...

TLV aren't a bad pick, even on 2 lane maps... of the player can micromanage they have great pushing power and your team can work around them...

or they could solo lane and the rest of your team can push the other lane (forcing the enemy to send backup to the TLV lane every so often if not the intire match)

you sir should get banned from this game without warning...


I think a bigger D move would be someone wasting 4 other players time by picking a troll character like TLV and doing QM. You have the right to play it, but nobody has to play with you if you try... hence the people who cancel out of the game if they see it.
09/01/2018 05:34 PMPosted by Rasalom
09/01/2018 01:26 PMPosted by Bukkit
...

no matter why... this is the biggest D-move anybody could pull...

TLV aren't a bad pick, even on 2 lane maps... of the player can micromanage they have great pushing power and your team can work around them...

or they could solo lane and the rest of your team can push the other lane (forcing the enemy to send backup to the TLV lane every so often if not the intire match)

you sir should get banned from this game without warning...


I think a bigger D move would be someone wasting 4 other players time by picking a troll character like TLV and doing QM. You have the right to play it, but nobody has to play with you if you try... hence the people who cancel out of the game if they see it.

How dare they pick a character made available in this game?
TLV despite them being very super amazingly yugly niche, and even then kinda garbage. The problem is getting TLV on the same team as xul, abathur, gaz, and any other low team fight specialist. Bonus bullshyt when its 3/2 split low damage tanks/niche specialists with not a support or assassin in sight.

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