Belial Lord of Lies CDC #6 Hellscape

Hero and Skin Suggestions
Belial lord of lies (Disclaimer I have spent the last few days researching the Diablo universe but I am by no means an expert and apologize in advance for any misrepresentation)

Skins: Dark templar/Tal’darim archon, ghost, Janus (roman mythology)

Mount normal

Trait: Stealth but has instant invisibility and gives a clocking field around him when stopped granting allies and spawns stealth then invisibility after 3 seconds standing still

Q: “fire” Balls – quickly shots out a green black projectile that applies poison
Mana: 80
Cool down: 8 seconds
Throughout a fast-moving projectile applying a damage over time affect lasting 4 seconds dealing 20 damage every .25 seconds (+X% every level)

W: Spawn snake men that follow you with a ranged attack
Mana: 35
Cool down: 5 seconds
Spawn a XXXX (snake man that he spawns during boss battle) next to Belial sharing his buffs and debuffs (he’s slowed there are too he is mounted they move faster) dealing 60 damage every second can summon up to 5 snake men (open Belial spawning/re-spawning all snake men are summoned)

E: Heal ally 3 charges
Mana: 45
Cool down: 6 seconds
Heal an allayed hero for 346 health

R1: Poisonous cloud reduces vision of enemy team adds posion (20 heals allies and slows enemies explodes at the end healing allies adding more poison)

R2: Team becomes Unstoppable and gains 25 armorer healing for damage prevented after the affect ends (20 slows enemies removes their armor setting it to 0 for the deration)

Level 1:
Q: Quest: hit 20 heroes
increases Q width
hit 40 heroes
increases poison duration by 1 sec
W: Legions can spawn more Spacemen with lower mana cost
Quest: gather 20 regen globes
10 reward: lower mana cost by 5 can spawn an additional snake man
20 reward: lower mana cost by an additional 10 and gain an additional snake man summon
D: activate to create brush around Balial for 5 seconds and decreasing cooldown rate by 40%. Passive: cooldown rate decreased by 10% wail in brush (30 sec cooldown)
Active: reveal an area and gain armored for every hero reveled and lower there damage dealt

Level 4:
E: Heal increased by 6% for every snake man alive
E: when Belial has armored healing is increases by 25% healing with Negative armorer increases healing by 50%
Q: Quest: gain 15 mana when hitting heroes
hit heroes 30 times gain 5 mana whenever your Q poison damage ticks
Q: heals Belial and snake men for 0.5% of their health every time the poison damage ticks

Level 7:
Q: Damaging heroes with poison damage lowers cool downs by .15 seconds (damage dealt by ult count as poison but the ult does not gain the benefits of
E: casting E without charges costs no mana but kills a snake man

Level 10:
R1: Poisonous cloud reduces vision of enemy team adds poison
R2: Team becomes Unstoppable and gains 25 armorer healing for damage prevented after the affect ends

Level 13:
W: Snake men gain 50% more health 50 armor and gain a melee attack Belial 5 gains armor for every snake man alive
E: healing gives target 6% speed for every enemy affected by Q
W: Snake men give 5% spell power but lose 25% of their health whenever a snake man dies cool downs are reduced by 1 second

Level 16:
E: Adds heal over time 25 health every second for 5 seconds healing over time is increased by 50% for every enemy affected by Q
Q: slows enemies by 10% if all enemy heroes are affected by Q slow increases to 30%
D: gives 25 armor to allies inside (only when stopped) lasts 5 seconds after leaving the zone (Belial only gains the armorer when stooped and 5 seconds after it's NOT a permanent armor)
W: Spacemen deal 2% max health of heroes

Level 20:
R1 heals allies and slows enemies explodes at the end healing allies adding more poison
R2 slows enemies removes their armor setting it to 0 for the deration
D: Area doubled gives mana and increased healing to stelthed heroes
Q: shoots out three in a cone shape
E: Heals Belial for 25% of healing done to allies
Active: Bolt of the storm

CDC #6 Hellscape - https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20768666797
Reserved just in case
Creativity - 3/5
Seems you threw alot of stuff together that seems off putting a little on his design namely the healing aspects being thrown in with his normal snake people and green fireball abilities, i also don't understand fully what you meant with your trait like is it like Nova/Zeratul or is it like them + Tyrandes heroic which works on allies too?, overall you did throw in alot of Diablo themes here so least it shows you did do your research mate.

Cohesiveness - 3/5
Overall what theme is he trying to fit? is he a specialist? an assassin? or a support cause he seems to throw many of those elements together (and while Hybrids aren't bad) it isn't clear what his focus is.

Thematic - 4/5
I will admit he does match Belial in the ways of Green flaming abilities and his favourite minions the lamia snake people and that stealth would also match his Lord of Lies title since he isn't usually upfront with things.

Interaction - 3/5
So far his interaction seems to be either disruptive to his enemies or a boon to his allies and judging by talents so far seems to distant from his interaction role even more so then Kharazim from what i think.

Overall Score
Creativity - 3/5
Cohesiveness - 3/5
Thematic - 4/5
Interaction - 3/5

Total - 13/20

Just rewording some bits and pieces might fix up alot of it for you mate, if English isn't your first language im sure theres someone around that might help you with that or even some of the translators on google (even if some aren't good)
Belial without his true form isnt Belial.

Maybe similar to Ragnaros skill but you can do it wherever you want, and you become unable to move but with large area skills (the breath, the meteors and the punch).

As lord of lies i would put him some form to copy enemy heroes and try to be one of them, and taken the skills without ultimate and doing less damage (he would be part of the enemy team when mimicking a enemy hero until Belial attacks or the real hero stays X secons in a sort area aound him).
Overall Score
Creativity - 2/5
Cohesiveness - 3/5
Thematic - 4/5
Interaction - 3/5

Total - 12/20

Creativity - 2/5
Where do I begin. First things first, the design in and of itself doesn’t bring anything to the table new besides perhaps another take on vision shred, baseline team stealth, and summons on a support. The problem is, none of this really brings much out in the character. None of the abilities in and of themselves are interesting, with his E’s charge mechanic being far from saving it (Tyrande’s does this as well as a slew of other things), and his Q being one of the most generic damaging skillshots in the game, comparable to Frostbolt. The snake men that are summoned don’t offer anything interesting or unique, and are pretty much just flesh bags to take damage and add a little bit of damage (hardly an interesting niche since Anub’arak does it but more interesting on his trait). The two heroics are alright, but don’t provide enough to justify the lackluster base kit. Similarly, the talents add little to the character. While some talents are pretty cool, like Tier 5 talents and the Tier 1 trait upgrade (names would be helpful for the abilities and talents, if you can spare the time. Most talents offer menial bonuses, not really offering divergent playstyles or engaging gameplay. All in all, I am a bit disappointed, because I have seen much better from you in the past.

Cohesiveness - 3/5
At is core, the kit offers very little to connect itself. It has a damaging skillshot, a summon spell, a heal, and a mass invis field. The heroics offer some disruption or a protection spell. Brought together, the role of a support emerges, but that alienates two of your 3 basic abilities. I really think your Q and W should introduce something to add to the support theme. They don’t have to be healing by any means, but I would like to see some disruption or something baseline. Both seem pointlessly interwoven in the design. The talents have some cool synergy, but they seem superficial. I would like to see some more interaction within the talents, and more distinct playstyles and builds emerge. A talent I want to note, I love the Tier 2 (level 4) armored healing bonus on the E, but he has no real way to get armor outside of his second heroic. I think some other talents to give armor would work better here, or maybe even make it baseline (if three enemies are poisoned by Q, gain 10 armor or something). Also you have talents already that grow in power based on the number of enemies hit by your Q, but as of right now even with talents, you can only have 1 enemy hit at a time. Am I missing something?

Thematic - 4/5
While Belial does shoot green fireballs, summon snake men, and rely on sneaky tactics, I don’t really understand the heal or second heroic. I also don’t understand several of the talents. While I can definitely see Belial as a support, and even made a support Belial concept myself, I think you missed the opportunity to make his supportive elements thematic. He is a demon, and fits the contest, however.

Interaction - 3/5
The design has some interactive elements, with the Q being a skillshot and the snakemen being killable, and the second heroic only healing when your allies take damage, but that’s about where the interaction ends. The heal is set, and doesn’t require any management of resources or active engagement to benefit from it (compared to Uther, Tyrande, Li Li, Morales, ect). I am always cautious about adding in summons, and Blizzard has expressed time and time again they want to severely limit the number of summons in the game for their uninteractive gameplay feel. The stealth feels obnoxious for the enemies to deal with, considering the invisibility is instant. Also, how does allied stealth work? It is broken by dealing and taking damage, just like normal, right? If so, you should make sure to specify the delay before they can benefit from the cloaking field again.

I want to note that I truly hope you do not give up or feel attacked by this review. I encourage you to tackle the problems in your kit head on and try to amend the issues for the following weeks.
Total - 14/20

Creativity - 3/5
Cohesiveness - 4/5
Thematic - 4/5
Interaction - 3/5

A bit hard to judge this concept, because the descriptions are very brief and leave out many details, for example I don't know how much mana the character has, so I can't judge if and how the included mana costs would affect his play stile.

I don't even know which form he's in. You purpose Archon and ghost skins (which have no legs, assuming a "normal" ghost rather than a Starcraft spec-ops unit), so I guess it is his true form, but you also say he mounts normally, so I don't know.

Details:

Creativity:
His abilities are pretty bland and badic in their functionality, but lack something to bring them together and make them interesting despite their simplicity (unlike other concepts in the contest).
I'm not sure how the snakemen work (do they lane, or follow Belial, or something else?, do they have timed life?, etc) so it's hard to tell how innovative they are as far as summons go.
The same goes for his second heroic (does it affect an area, or just buff all allies in the map?).

His talents are rather generic (though not the worst I've seen), but it would help a lot to make them more flavorful to add good names to them (or at least to his trait, abilities, and heroics).

About the skins, again, it's hard to tell how well they fit if I don't know what his base model is, but assuming it is his true form, they fit well enough, I guess, though I don't know how a Tal'darim Archon would look (if they even can Archon meld), or Janus for that matter (but in this case the fault is mine, for being uncultured in roman myths :p).

Cohesiveness:
His abilities feel completely independent from each other, though this is mitigated by a few talents that make one ability give bonuses to another.

There are a couple of build paths available, nut also several talents that feel disconnected from the rest of his kit.
Overall, the talent tree has a "Quantity over Quality" feel to it IMO.

Lastly, the fact that you don't even mention what role he is supposed to be doesn't help (I guess he´s a support?)

Thematic:
Most of his kit works well with the character, being pulled from his D3 appearance or from his lore, but I really don't know what that healing is doing there.

Interaction:
Depending on the details of how his trait works, it could be annoying to play against, giving his whole team a way to easily escape from AAs and targeted abilities, which could feel really cheap.

Other than that, he provides no meaningful interaction options to the enemy and barely interacts with his team at all (with it being limited to a basic heal and his stealth aura)

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