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My team: Diablo, Nazeebo, Tassadar, Lili, Dehaka

vs

Brightwing, Murky, Zuljin, ETC and Tracer.

WE DONT HAVE ANY DAMAGE. WE HAVE NO ASSASSIN. Are you seriously trying to kill off what remains of your pitiful userbase?
Its currently 2-22. Yes im typing this while in the game. Pointless, why even bother and no concede option.
We don't care about your QM team comps. Play draft if you want a chance of a real team comp. QM is basically practice mode.
Game ended 2-31. Disable QM now, save your game.
09/30/2018 10:28 AMPosted by trustmeimdoc
We don't care about your QM team comps. Play draft if you want a chance of a real team comp. QM is basically practice mode.


The que time is well over 10 minutes for any other mode.
The hell are you talking about?
Nazeebo is a mage.
Diablo and Dehaka can both build for damage, and Lili can actually output some decent damage while nullifying the damage from their two strongest dps.
Diablo kind of destroys Tracer.

You can blame comps if you want, but you're just bad and/or your team didn't work together at all or pick good talents for the situation.
09/30/2018 10:31 AMPosted by Fawxkitteh
The hell are you talking about?
Nazeebo is a mage.
Diablo and Dehaka can both build for damage, and Lili can actually output some decent damage while nullifying the damage from their two strongest dps.
Diablo kind of destroys Tracer.

You can blame comps if you want, but you're just bad and/or your team didn't work together at all or pick good talents for the situation.


All of this. You have stuns and double support with 2 of the best damage dealing tanks and a healer that can blind their only 2 dps pretty frequently.
09/30/2018 10:29 AMPosted by osea101

The que time is well over 10 minutes for any other mode.
It is not that long of a queue for unranked draft. It takes maybe a minute or two longer than QM for me. I'll take that any day for the massively better games.
09/30/2018 10:28 AMPosted by osea101
Game ended 2-31. Disable QM now, save your game.


*Jumps in front of a car on the highway*

"REMOVE CARS, SAVE ME NOW!"

Theres draft mode. Use it.
Play in draft mode, problem solved.
naz is the damage

i got one hit by him for 1800 damage spiders + poison
09/30/2018 10:21 AMPosted by osea101
My team: Diablo, Nazeebo, Tassadar, Lili, Dehaka

vs

Brightwing, Murky, Zuljin, ETC and Tracer.

WE DONT HAVE ANY DAMAGE. WE HAVE NO ASSASSIN. Are you seriously trying to kill off what remains of your pitiful userbase?


Except if Tracer has recall, anyone who gets flipped, then zombie walled, then forced walled, is automatically dead. And you can just ignore Murky during fights. If he doesn't show to fights you should win.

Tracer HAS to back off if Diablo targets her. And you have Apoc. to cancel Mosh pit. Also your team is tankier.
09/30/2018 10:28 AMPosted by osea101
Game ended 2-31. Disable QM now, save your game.

LoL disable by yourself, don't play it, no one force you play it
Plays the game mode that you cant control comp. Complains about comp.
09/30/2018 10:21 AMPosted by osea101
My team: Diablo, Nazeebo, Tassadar, Lili, Dehaka

vs

Brightwing, Murky, Zuljin, ETC and Tracer.

WE DONT HAVE ANY DAMAGE. WE HAVE NO ASSASSIN. Are you seriously trying to kill off what remains of your pitiful userbase?


if i had to pick a being one of side or the other i would had picked your team,
your team had proper counter on MANY elements they had , if your team couldn't win, it has nothing do do with the comp and everything with the players .

if i had me and my friends having to pick a side, most of us would had with your the comp you had because we would had understood the advantages we had, the fact you dont seen to see it is beyond me.
09/30/2018 10:21 AMPosted by osea101
My team: Diablo, Nazeebo, Tassadar, Lili, Dehaka

vs

Brightwing, Murky, Zuljin, ETC and Tracer.

WE DONT HAVE ANY DAMAGE. WE HAVE NO ASSASSIN. Are you seriously trying to kill off what remains of your pitiful userbase?


You actually do have damage on that team. I'm going out on a limb here and thinking that you thought right at the beginning of the game that the game was over or during the first mid fight. You were probably the cause of the lose during that game tbh. Diablo can do a truckload of dmg if played right and so can naz late game. If you let that enemy team get ahead of you that game, that's you and your team playing poorly.
09/30/2018 10:23 AMPosted by osea101
Its currently 2-22. Yes im typing this while in the game. Pointless, why even bother and no concede option.


And you are in the forums during game. Man I wish I could perma-ban you myself so you don't ruin anyone else's games. If any forum moderators could relay this to the gm's and suspend this players account please do. He blatantly posted evidence about non-participation on the forums. Going to save this so I can relay it on a later date.
09/30/2018 10:21 AMPosted by osea101
My team: Diablo, Nazeebo, Tassadar, Lili, Dehaka

vs

Brightwing, Murky, Zuljin, ETC and Tracer.

WE DONT HAVE ANY DAMAGE. WE HAVE NO ASSASSIN. Are you seriously trying to kill off what remains of your pitiful userbase?


Diablo loves to screw around with Tracer, fun of auto target skills compared to skill shots. Nazeebo, if played even decently, can put in some high numbers in siege, hero, and xp. Tassadar, Psi Storm not upgraded does good damage on a minion wave. Upgraded by just the level 1 quest talent melts the brains of minion waves. Also Archon ult is a thing. Li Li says, "Screw you," to AA heroes like Tracer and Zul'jin. Dehaka can be annoying and pretty good at dragging enemies, also outpacing them if he simply touches a bush/vent.

Your team was pretty good comp-wise. Seems more of player error
09/30/2018 10:23 AMPosted by osea101
Its currently 2-22. Yes im typing this while in the game. Pointless, why even bother and no concede option.


This is the kind of attitude that loses games. I just had a HL game where our team had a thrower Illidan. Instead of the rest of our team trying to win, two of the players didn't pick any skills and just hid in bushes and danced.

As it turned out, the other team had a Bot AI for the entire match. If the two members of our team had decided not to troll and TRY to win, we probably would have.
Gotta love the solution of "don't play QM, just play Draft". Okay, but that doesn't fix or address the problem. Yes, I do agree that those heroes can adapt to certain builds to do more damage as a tank, but overall they still don't have that much damage. When you adapt a build in a different direction, it's not always a surefire way to solve the problem. Tass is more utility than damage, Lili would lose healing if she went "damage", Dehaka is already a half tank that needs another tank to help him, and Nazeebo can only do so much since he is their best lane pusher and best damage dealer. He can't be everywhere at once. Their comp also doesn't have much of any synergy from what I can tell.

While the other team has a comp that works with as a 4 man squad and Murky can just lane by himself. Tass could maybe lane against him, but they just have so much damage in that 4 man they could easily deathball if they're not careful. Brightwing can stop engages with poly, Tracer is high mobility and wouldn't be easy to hit with skillshots, ETC can help to either disengage or keep them grouped, and Zuljin just has high damage.

So no, I don't think it's too much to ask that QM get an improved match making system that evens out the comps in someway, because that comp is not even at all. Besides, it wouldn't even be that hard to have it setup to match up teams.

Program it to where it should be a typical comp of 2 warriors, 2 assassin, 1 support. then have it so that 1 of the warriors can possibly rotate to another assassin, or that 1 of the assassins can rotate to a specialist. That way if you queue up as a squad it just fills in that one role you're missing. Like queueing up as 1 support, 1 warrior, and 2 assassins would just yield a warrior or assassin fill.

The change from QM to Draft is pretty significant, yet you say it like it's nothing. Average queue times for Draft are pretty high, so just one of you saying it's low for you doesn't really mean anything (cause either you're an outlier or you're on the further end of the spectrum of the average). And so why would you want to wait for so long to then take longer to maybe get the role/hero you want, and then if someone rage quits you get sent back to queue. Also, wouldn't you see a lot of the same heroes over and over again in draft because of the state of the meta?

Why should players have to jump through so many hoops when they don't want to and just want to play a simple, balanced match? Except we can't a lot of the time because QM match making is so messed up; granted it has gotten noticeably better since both teams have at least 1 healer each as seen above. So maybe we'll see an improved QM match making system, but that's a maybe and we also don't know how long it will take for them to improve upon it.

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