Suspicious of aimbot?

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08/09/2016 01:15 PMPosted by Nessuno

Shouldn't there be special treatment for pros, though? Shouldn't they get MORE scrutiny?


“No special treatment” means pro players are not exempt from our cheating policy. If you’re found to be cheating in Overwatch—or using hacks, bots, or third-party software that provides any sort of unfair advantage—pro player or not, you will be permanently banned from the game.

Full stop.

Just to be clear: When we receive reports of cheating, either through our in-game reporting system or to hacks@blizzard.com, we investigate. That includes reports targeting pro players, streamers, or prominent content creators (etc.), and is in addition to the normal detection processes we have in place. As a result, many pro players are under a higher level of scrutiny simply due to the nature of their gameplay being so public—not just from the community, but from us too.

Turning a blind eye to cheating simply because someone is a pro player (or streamer, etc.) doesn’t benefit us, the community, or the game in any way. In fact, we think it would be a really harmful thing for us to do. We made a commitment to support and improve Overwatch for years to come, and taking a hard stance against cheaters—even if they happen to be in the spotlight—is part of that commitment.

So, again, if you believe someone is cheating, please let us know through the channels we’ve provided above. We're constantly working to maintain a fair play environment, and if we’re able to confirm that cheating is taking place, you can be sure that we’ll take action.
they arent any coders with high skill out there than can create a cheat for them kappa
08/10/2016 10:20 AMPosted by Lylirra
08/09/2016 01:15 PMPosted by Nessuno

Shouldn't there be special treatment for pros, though? Shouldn't they get MORE scrutiny?


“No special treatment” means pro players are not exempt from our cheating policy. If you’re found to be cheating in Overwatch—or using hacks, bots, or third-party software that provides any sort of unfair advantage—pro player or not, you will be permanently banned from the game.

Full stop.

Just to be clear: When we receive reports of cheating, either through our in-game reporting system or to hacks@blizzard.com, we investigate. That includes reports targeting pro players, streamers, or prominent content creators (etc.), and is in addition to the normal detection processes we have in place. As a result, many pro players are under a higher level of scrutiny simply due to the nature of their gameplay being so public—not just from the community, but from us too.

Turning a blind eye to cheating simply because someone is a pro player (or streamer, etc.) doesn’t benefit us, the community, or the game in any way. In fact, we think it would be a really harmful thing for us to do. We made a commitment to support and improve Overwatch for years to come, and taking a hard stance against cheaters—even if they happen to be in the spotlight—is part of that commitment.

So, again, if you believe someone is cheating, please let us know through the channels we’ve provided above. We're constantly working to maintain a fair play environment, and if we’re able to confirm that cheating is taking place, you can be sure that we’ll take action.


while I appreciate the sentiment of this post, the proof is in the pudding. until a pro player is publicly banned, this is all just words. if you can catch several thousand non-pro cheaters in multiple ban waves, but not one single professional cheater, you are either not being straight with us, or failing in your scrutiny of the pros. again, most if not all of the pros who have been accused of cheating have been caught red handed and banned for cheating in previous games. it would be incredibly naive to assume that they've all changed their ways and your pro scene is 100% cheater free, but you've yet to catch a single one. that does not inspire trust or confidence in your playerbase.
Actions speak louder than words; Blizzard's actions have spoken volumes.
08/09/2016 05:36 PMPosted by Kotu
08/09/2016 12:53 PMPosted by Lylirra

killcams, Plays of the Game, Highlights, and other community-captured footage aren’t consistently reliable. While they definitely are valuable (so please continue to send them our way), they're never actually used to verify or confirm the use cheats, hacks, bots, or unauthorized third-party programs.


What actually is considered reliable then? There is no way to observe other players other than the killcam unless they are on your friend list.


Bingo. The question Blizzard refuses to answer.

Seems like if you're cheating, just don't stream. Though clearly even streaming won't get you caught.
I saw someone aimbotting as Reaper one time. In his killcam, his crosshair kept snapping right onto the center of players, *JUST* before each shotgun shot. Multiple times, the dot in the center of the circle would quickly snap to the exact same position on the target's body, over and over.

I guess he was trying to be less obvious, because if he was playing a sniper it'd be immediately obvious that he was aimbotting.
Blizzard will not announce people they are investigating because "Innocent until proven guilty". Therefore, if anyone is being investigated by Blizzard because they're suspected of cheating, they won't tell you. Why would they? It doesn't directly affect you. On top of that, if someone is believed by the community to be cheating, and Blizzard says "Yeah, we're pretty much certain he's cheating but we can't prove it", but it turns out he's not (or they again just can't prove it), Blizzard CAN be sued for defamation, especially if they're a professional or content creator whose livelihood depends on their ability to play the game and be watched doing it.

On top of that, what you believe to be cheating can just be unreliable kill cams or someone placed way out of rank (it happens). And even if you're convinced of them cheating, Blizzard is going to run their tests to verify it--I was in a game where the enemy sniper was pretty decent. Not great, but decent. Someone on our team decided to report them for hacking, and publicly announced it, and everyone (EVERYONE) in the game said they were full of it. The rest of us had witnessed plenty of misses, had killed her lots of times, but this person said "Whatever, I'm reporting her anyways. If they're not cheating, then no harm, no foul." It's reports like this that force Blizzard to verify the crap out of everyone's reports--they have software that detects third-party programs, they have the statistics that show a sudden increase in weapon accuracy, they have the ability to monitor cams in the future. These will determine whether or not Blizzard can safely say "We believe you to be cheating, you're banned."

What your one game with a couple killcams does is point them towards POTENTIAL cheaters; eventually, if proven beyond reasonable doubt that the player is cheating, they'll quietly vanish into oblivion. Otherwise, they'll keep playing uninterrupted. But until "beyond reasonable doubt" is reached, Blizzard won't act. It keeps the twitch-masters from being banned without cause, and it keeps Blizzard from being sued. And it prevents Report-abusers from being able to exact vengeance on people genuinely better than them.
08/09/2016 11:27 AMPosted by Lylirra
We're constantly monitoring the game and have been very aggressive with taking action against players who've been found to be cheating.


Except if they have a web cam, racer chair and a following.... right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRo0Csl8P2Y

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