The True Reason Mei is Underpowered

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Mei's most useful tool is her wall. It can easily get a pick, like roadhog's hook. Mei's problem is that people can play around her. She's still a great pick in certain situations and at the lower levels because people can't get around her. But if you're against a genji and he just stays out of your range, then your DPS is very unreliable even if your aim is good.
10/04/2017 11:57 AMPosted by ijones72
10/04/2017 11:24 AMPosted by Reapfield
Uh. What is Bastion's method of confirming kills?

EDIT: Okay, wait, that's not fair considering he's also underpowered right now. Um. Sombra's method of confirming kills?
Sombra doesnt comfirm kills.
Shes not a dps,shes a support. She sets up kills and plays for the team,who then follow up and murder the enemy team.
Uhm...What?

Every hero confirms kills (or has the potential to). Even Sombra. Especially Lucio, and yes, even Mercy can confirm kills.

Stop pretending the heroes shouldn't be good at shooting things.

That being said, Tracer also relies solely on primary fire. And no, that's not me derailing - I am counterpointing the point of the thread.
10/04/2017 11:57 AMPosted by ijones72
Sombra doesnt comfirm kills.
Shes not a dps,shes a support. She sets up kills and plays for the team,who then follow up and murder the enemy team.

Mei is basically in the same with Sombra in the "utility hero" category, which is either DPS, Tank, or Support. They are "specialist" whose role is to assist other roles by creating advantageous situations, but technically you can also say it is a sub-class of Support that don't provide healing as utility. However it is not something that is really known, or accepted by players of the game at the moment.
10/04/2017 11:22 AMPosted by Disco
10/04/2017 11:20 AMPosted by juggy
... freeze em


if a tracer or genji get frozen.... they should really not be playing those heroes.


It's funny how uneffective Mei is against Tracer and Genji when she's supposed to be a counter to both of them, especially Genji.
10/04/2017 11:24 AMPosted by Reapfield
Uh. What is Bastion's method of confirming kills?

EDIT: Okay, wait, that's not fair considering he's also underpowered right now. Um. Sombra's method of confirming kills?


Are you playing the same game I am? Because in my game Bastion can melt a Rein, shield armor and all, in three seconds.

I honestly feel like there's this secret agreement where everyone is trying to trick Blizz into buffing the hero with literally the highest damage output in the game.

If you fail as Bastion I feel bad for you son, but if I'm playing Bastion I'd suggest you run.
10/04/2017 11:24 AMPosted by Reapfield
Uh. What is Bastion's method of confirming kills?

EDIT: Okay, wait, that's not fair considering he's also underpowered right now. Um. Sombra's method of confirming kills?
Bastion has sentry mode. Sombra has hack.
10/04/2017 11:50 AMPosted by Fragehardt
Widow does not rely on an ability to get kills.
Spidertrap. People die all the time to it, including myself.
I've always liked the idea of adding a freeze effect to her ice wall to help her isolate and kill targets. It's a potentially powerful zoning ability that needs a few added elements to make it more effective and less annoying to your own team. Like a clear ice to see targets on the other side or maybe lock it so Mei can't ice wall in spawn.
10/04/2017 12:19 PMPosted by RadRevenger
10/04/2017 11:24 AMPosted by Reapfield
Uh. What is Bastion's method of confirming kills?

EDIT: Okay, wait, that's not fair considering he's also underpowered right now. Um. Sombra's method of confirming kills?


Are you playing the same game I am? Because in my game Bastion can melt a Rein, shield armor and all, in three seconds.

I honestly feel like there's this secret agreement where everyone is trying to trick Blizz into buffing the hero with literally the highest damage output in the game.

If you fail as Bastion I feel bad for you son, but if I'm playing Bastion I'd suggest you run.
Sure maybe its the highest damage output at point blank range.
The problem is that past a certain range his spread makes his damage go from immobile god of death to rotary feather cannon.
raw dps is useless if you have to be close and personal to use,have no movement abilities,and are all around immobile.

Before bastions spread nerf he could actually defend the choke while being more than 15 meters away from it.

he could actually melt those trying to peak him,and those foolish enough to enter his line of sight would face a quick and painless death.

Now? You are far more limited in where you can set up.

Sure you can burst down a rein in a second of sustained fire,but due to how limited you are in where you can set up,most of the time he doesnt even take a second to reach you.

Highest dps in the game,but lowest pickrate :(
10/04/2017 10:39 AMPosted by juggy
With the exception of Reaper, Mei is the only DPS hero who completely relies on primary fire to achieve kills
Uh Widowmaker begs to differ.
I just wish her other abilites would give a minor slow effect too, or her icicles damage falloff be reduced. Compared to any other DPS her damage is low and she's close to immobile.
10/04/2017 11:56 AMPosted by padded
To those that think Mei is underpowered...you must have not heard of Jardio.
This guy has been around the 4500-4600ish SR in nearly every season and most of his hours are played on....Mei.

He unlocks her true potential and even gets his ultimate faster than many of the other dps heroes in the game.

He did make mention that the biggest frustration to playing Mei are some of the bugs that have been in the game since before official launch.
One of those being getting hooked out of Ice Block and having your Cryo Freeze on CD.

This could be a case of "favor the shooter" but from Mei's perspective...you go into your ice block to feel safe and then your world flashes before your eyes as you see your Ice Block break...*hooked*...leaving you in the middle of the enemy team with little to no cooldowns.
Just because some people can reach such high ranks with those character,doesn't mean they are not underpowered.

Look at kolorblind for instance. Just because a bastion main is able to reach top 500 doesn't mean bastion is not underpowered.

The game should not be balanced based around what the very best can do.
10/04/2017 06:13 PMPosted by Zwei
I just wish her other abilites would give a minor slow effect too, or her icicles damage falloff be reduced. Compared to any other DPS her damage is low and she's close to immobile.
or both!
10/04/2017 10:39 AMPosted by juggy
With the exception of Reaper, Mei is the only DPS hero who completely relies on primary fire to achieve kills. All other DPS heroes have an ability that confirm their kills. For example: swiftstrike, flashbang, turret, scatter arrow, etc. Now I'm not saying give Mei another ability. However what they can do is buff her ice wall ability to help it confirm kills. Add the freezing effect to her ice wall. If an enemy touches her ice wall for an extended period of time, they freeze.
How is flashbang considered but the fact you can freeze and headshot someone not?
10/04/2017 10:39 AMPosted by juggy
With the exception of Reaper, Mei is the only DPS hero who completely relies on primary fire to achieve kills. All other DPS heroes have an ability that confirm their kills. For example: swiftstrike, flashbang, turret, scatter arrow, etc. Now I'm not saying give Mei another ability. However what they can do is buff her ice wall ability to help it confirm kills. Add the freezing effect to her ice wall. If an enemy touches her ice wall for an extended period of time, they freeze.


yeah I hate when tracer blinks into me and that blink kills me, don't even know why tracer has a primary weapon her blinks do so much damage.
Ok I don't use flashbang for every elimination that's within 10 meters, I try and prioritize people that use tracer or mercy. But I get what you're saying
10/04/2017 10:39 AMPosted by juggy
With the exception of Reaper, Mei is the only DPS hero who completely relies on primary fire to achieve kills. All other DPS heroes have an ability that confirm their kills. For example: swiftstrike, flashbang, turret, scatter arrow, etc.


...Tracer? Bastion? Pharah? Widow? Sombra, to a dubiously lesser extent?
11/14/2017 03:56 PMPosted by Nerv
10/04/2017 10:39 AMPosted by juggy
With the exception of Reaper, Mei is the only DPS hero who completely relies on primary fire to achieve kills. All other DPS heroes have an ability that confirm their kills. For example: swiftstrike, flashbang, turret, scatter arrow, etc. Now I'm not saying give Mei another ability. However what they can do is buff her ice wall ability to help it confirm kills. Add the freezing effect to her ice wall. If an enemy touches her ice wall for an extended period of time, they freeze.


yeah I hate when tracer blinks into me and that blink kills me, don't even know why tracer has a primary weapon her blinks do so much damage.
lol I can't lie. You got me there. Tracer is a special case though. She's just designed so perfectly.

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