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10/20/2017 06:23 AMPosted by Ninetales
10/19/2017 04:40 PMPosted by HappyFeet
Jeff said year 3 is new events so no, they’re not coming back.


Riiiight. So what you're saying is overwatch is never going to have another halloween event after this or another christmas event after the next one?

Ok then...
If you read further on, I clarified he said year 3-4 would have different events than 1-2
10/19/2017 04:37 PMPosted by RichC
but obviously you don't want your son/daughter playing video games all day everyday.


Someone with good parenting sense, I like it

Tell that to most of the young parents I know. They're more than happy to let their spoiled offspring zone out in front of video games/phones/tablets for hours and hours on end just to keep them out of their hair
10/19/2017 04:33 PMPosted by Acestial
The only way to get the skins without loot boxes in the United States is if there were a Legal No Gambling law for a certain industry such as a game industry.


The skins could just be sold in the Item Shop. Not recommending it, just pointing out that this would be lawful.
Man what a cool Dad.
I'm going to get some hate saying it but it is a good life experience for a child. "You can't always get what you want." -Mick
10/20/2017 07:08 AMPosted by Benbass
I'm going to get some hate saying it but it is a good life experience for a child. "You can't always get what you want." -Mick
This seems like the wrong moral to apply to gambling.
play the arcade every week that is 13 free lootboxes.
10/19/2017 05:54 PMPosted by Wondercrab
This is ultimately why people dislike loot box systems so much. We could have the best of both worlds -- direct microtransactions to buy the things we want, and randomised loot boxes for those who enjoy the thrill of gambling. But because this would only make the publisher a huge amount of money instead of an absurd amount of money, it's deemed not good enough, and the consumer experience has to suffer in the name of corporate greed.

I would be more than happy to purchase the skins I want to support Overwatch and its ongoing development, since it's a fantastic game and it deserves it. But because they chose the psychologically manipulative route rather than the consumer-friendly one, I refuse to spend a cent.


Sorry mate, but Blizzard is transparent about making money this very unforceful way. Don't like it don't buy it, just like in any other shop.

Developement isn't easy job as some might think and deserves to be rewarded. Just stop and think for a second. They let you earn that! You don't have to pay anything extra after purchasing a game. There is nothing manipulative as they clearly state microtransactions before the purchase. After all Blizzard has very liberal system compare to many other games with purchasing an unfair advantage! Try Paladins (Beta) it's free, soon you'll be hit by so many tempted deals.

Didn't you guys get used to it on mobile phones yet?

Here is the advise. Be a good parent and educade your children! Teach them to understand values and temptation of gambling. Why do you think so many people loose a fortune on stock markets, casinos or bookies? Because they don't know how to manage the risks.
10/20/2017 02:30 AMPosted by Reaper
10/19/2017 04:31 PMPosted by Godsego
so I encouraged him to grind boxes


lolwhat. Sounds like high quality bait.

If not.. geez, isn't there a better things for kid to do? Learn something? Play singleplayer games atleast? Grind lootboxes..


Grind lootboxes = getting better aim with McCree ;)
I think a good parent also teaches kids they don't always get what they want and how to deal with that scenario when it occurs. there's also the lesson of saving up for something (credits) to get something you really want (skins). that said, good luck getting the McCree skin.
10/20/2017 07:10 AMPosted by HappyFeet
10/20/2017 07:08 AMPosted by Benbass
I'm going to get some hate saying it but it is a good life experience for a child. "You can't always get what you want." -Mick
This seems like the wrong moral to apply to gambling.


Actually it is a great life experience. Gambling is a scam. Don't get hooked.
The fact that lawmakers do not want to call loot boxes/crates "gambling", doesn't take away the fact that you are indeed gambling your money away.

It would be great if you could exchange duplicate items with your friends, be it sprays or skins, but this industry is already so greedy that it will never make this available unless the courts change this practice's denomination and make it illegal, unless you play Overwatch in an actual Casino.
To everyone that offered lootboxes, I so thank you. We have the skin now and you should have seen his face when he got it. I know alot of people may not have the family I do, but we are all gamers myself and all my kids we literally talk gaming at the dinner table.
I would hope though persons whom thought this a personal request perhaps maybe take time to actually look at my profile and THEN look at the PSN account attached (my son).
I am not ignorant that this request will be ignored, I though felt if there was to be any chance this was the place to make a post.
I do a modest days work and try to indulge my kids in things they enjoy, best to my ability. I state this because here is my "rant" about lootboxes.
Could you please make skins purchasable via real money, even if high?
I bought a 20 lootboxes for Overwatch for my son today and all he wanted was the McCree skin. I watched anxiously while he got 4 legendary skins, only 2 for Halloween (Ana & Mei, neither he plays). He wants more boxes, but we just can't afford it, so I encouraged him to grind boxes (I even offered to play on his account for the rest of the event to help).
Here is the thing, I would be so very happy if you could talk to someone and maybe just make the skins cost $10 each or something. He only has like 1,340 coins and with the new limited dups he is getting little to no coins to amass for the skin.
I hope maybe in the future this could happen, but until then, sigh, I am going to go play Overwatch on .... console (my boy plays PS4).
I just want the chance to get something for my son without breaking the bank for it.


NO damn it. This isn't a !@#$ing F2P game, GOD DAMN IT. They should just give us the skins instead of putting them into damn lootboxes.
10/19/2017 04:31 PMPosted by Godsego
I do a modest days work and try to indulge my kids in things they enjoy, best to my ability. I state this because here is my "rant" about lootboxes.
Could you please make skins purchasable via real money, even if high?
I bought a 20 lootboxes for Overwatch for my son today and all he wanted was the McCree skin. I watched anxiously while he got 4 legendary skins, only 2 for Halloween (Ana & Mei, neither he plays). He wants more boxes, but we just can't afford it, so I encouraged him to grind boxes (I even offered to play on his account for the rest of the event to help).
Here is the thing, I would be so very happy if you could talk to someone and maybe just make the skins cost $10 each or something. He only has like 1,340 coins and with the new limited dups he is getting little to no coins to amass for the skin.
I hope maybe in the future this could happen, but until then, sigh, I am going to go play Overwatch on .... console (my boy plays PS4).
I just want the chance to get something for my son without breaking the bank for it.


You sound like a great Dad
10/19/2017 04:31 PMPosted by Godsego
I do a modest days work and try to indulge my kids in things they enjoy, best to my ability. I state this because here is my "rant" about lootboxes.
Could you please make skins purchasable via real money, even if high?
I bought a 20 lootboxes for Overwatch for my son today and all he wanted was the McCree skin. I watched anxiously while he got 4 legendary skins, only 2 for Halloween (Ana & Mei, neither he plays). He wants more boxes, but we just can't afford it, so I encouraged him to grind boxes (I even offered to play on his account for the rest of the event to help).
Here is the thing, I would be so very happy if you could talk to someone and maybe just make the skins cost $10 each or something. He only has like 1,340 coins and with the new limited dups he is getting little to no coins to amass for the skin.
I hope maybe in the future this could happen, but until then, sigh, I am going to go play Overwatch on .... console (my boy plays PS4).
I just want the chance to get something for my son without breaking the bank for it.


not a bad suggestion but an easier one would be to allow people to exchange money for coins. that way, we dont have to buy skins outright, but can purchase skins or emotes or icons (hint hint) ....
While the whole "you don't always get what you want" argument is a good overall life lesson, for a freaking videogame you already payed for to get a cosmetic that you spent even more money trying to get doesn't seem at all unreasonable. Applying that lesson to everything just makes life depressing
10/19/2017 04:39 PMPosted by Acestial
10/19/2017 04:37 PMPosted by RichC
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This is true, but kids are very different from us adults. They want something, but obviously you don't want your son/daughter playing video games all day everyday. Time restriction is required. But at the same time, you wish you could reward you kid with something they want (especially if they did something good; like grades).

I feel bad for this Dad, I really do. If his son is a good kid, he should be able to get him the skin he wants. It's no different than taking your kid to the toy store if they've done something good.


I guess it's a parent thing, so I can't really relate, but I guess the next best option is the Blizzard store for Overwatch items; it's affordable and there are a lot of choices. It's not in-game cosmetics, but it's something.

How do you know if the child likes what he see's? Here we are speaking about 2 things. A child wanting one specific thing. The second thing is buying cosmetics/skins in-game with IRL money. Let's keep it with what the child wants, not the store.
[quote="207575618055"]First I have to say: Cool story bro. Nice try.

This is a serious problem. It isin't a joke. If someone see's something that they like, they should be able to purchase it with IRL money. Being disrespectful to a Father that is trying to make their Son happy is not helping is incorrect and you should be supporting the idea.

A child's life is suppose to be happy and enjoyable. This is important for their development because they ARE growing.

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