Moira's healing and damage is too balanced

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For overwatch as it is and its going to make her look OP and when you add in the simplicity of how her abilities work its going to make it THAT much more clear. Pretty much the other supports needs to be on her level now because they are just not able to really compete with her damage/healing transition combo. This hero was really well done blizzard team. She truly embodies what a support is. Mobile can dish out some nice damage but can still heal a wound!
Exactly. Other healers need to be propped up to her level! She is the embodiment of a fun, useful, and balanced healer.
Have been saying this for days and keep getting downvoted. Other supports that actually are balanced as well have to be overtuned to keep up with her.
02/12/2018 10:50 AMPosted by Avian
Have been saying this for days and keep getting downvoted. Other supports that actually are balanced as well have to be overtuned to keep up with her.


The only other balanced support is Zen?

Lucio has been mobility creeped
Mercy's ult isn't any better than another characters base kit
Ana needs buffs
Ana and Lucio are weak. The others are fine.
She's balanced
Too Balanced

Let's make her OP! Yeah!

NEW BUFF:
Moira now has a Bazooka.

Developer Comments:
We realized Moira has become way too balanced, so she now has a bazooka so she can easily kill people in 1-hit and give salty players a valid reason to complain about her.
02/12/2018 10:50 AMPosted by Avian
Other supports that actually are balanced as well have to be overtuned to keep up with her.

They're all balanced and they all have their jobs that they do. Ana is balanced, she just isn't played because of the meta, more specifically shields, and because for some reason over time, people went from praising her Biotic Grenade to forgetting about it. Moira is balanced, she is played a lot because she is fun and fits the meta, or more specifically fits the most viable play style, which is to rush together as a team.
Imho, if she had 30 dps instead 50, she could do her role as main healer better, killing less but making heal charge faster.
02/12/2018 10:54 AMPosted by Uperior
02/12/2018 10:50 AMPosted by Avian
Have been saying this for days and keep getting downvoted. Other supports that actually are balanced as well have to be overtuned to keep up with her.


The only other balanced support is Zen?

Lucio has been mobility creeped
Mercy's ult isn't any better than another characters base kit
Ana needs buffs


Symmetra says hi.
02/12/2018 11:00 AMPosted by Lune
02/12/2018 10:54 AMPosted by Uperior
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The only other balanced support is Zen?

Lucio has been mobility creeped
Mercy's ult isn't any better than another characters base kit
Ana needs buffs


Symmetra says hi.


Symmetra isn't a healing support, and doesn't have to compete with Moira/ Zen

Plus they have said they're looking at changes for her. Ana and Lucio haven't had any word at all, and they're still letting the dust settle for Mercy.
Just a friendly reminder

Moira has zero utility.

You cant just weigh damage and healing and say shes too strong. She brings no discord, no speed boost, no boop, no resurrect, no anti and no sleep.
02/12/2018 10:54 AMPosted by Uperior
02/12/2018 10:50 AMPosted by Avian
Have been saying this for days and keep getting downvoted. Other supports that actually are balanced as well have to be overtuned to keep up with her.


The only other balanced support is Zen?

Lucio has been mobility creeped
Mercy's ult isn't any better than another characters base kit
Ana needs buffs


Disagree that Valkyrie is weak. It's not an "oh !@#$" button like Transcendence, but that only lasts 6 seconds. Her ult provides 15 seconds of support for sustained pushes. It's not to counter ults, it's to allow your team to steamroll through standard fighting. It's not super great, but it doesn't suck either.
02/12/2018 10:54 AMPosted by Uperior
02/12/2018 10:50 AMPosted by Avian
Have been saying this for days and keep getting downvoted. Other supports that actually are balanced as well have to be overtuned to keep up with her.


The only other balanced support is Zen?

Lucio has been mobility creeped
Mercy's ult isn't any better than another characters base kit
Ana needs buffs

Lucio is also balanced and believe it or not, Mercy is not it an awful spot either. Ana has utility but Moira has taken over her job of being a tank healer as she completely outshines her. It's to such an extend that Ana doesn't really have a "thing" to heal as squishies are hard as she requires aim and when it comes to tanks, she can only heal one at a time.
02/12/2018 11:11 AMPosted by Tenoro
02/12/2018 10:54 AMPosted by Uperior
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The only other balanced support is Zen?

Lucio has been mobility creeped
Mercy's ult isn't any better than another characters base kit
Ana needs buffs


Disagree that Valkyrie is weak. It's not an "oh !@#$" button like Transcendence, but that only lasts 6 seconds. Her ult provides 15 seconds of support for sustained pushes. It's not to counter ults, it's to allow your team to steamroll through standard fighting. It's not super great, but it doesn't suck either.


It's VERY close to being good, but the problem is that one Junkrat with a support can just melt through Mercy's ult.

Zen/ Moira alone does what Mercy's entire ult does but with their basic kits.

Mercy is SO close, she just needs that little tap on her ult to feel like a good option in more situations.
02/12/2018 11:08 AMPosted by Coulumbo
Just a friendly reminder

Moira has zero utility.

You cant just weigh damage and healing and say shes too strong. She brings no discord, no speed boost, no boop, no resurrect, no anti and no sleep.
The way she seamlessly deals damage and heals is literally her utility
02/12/2018 11:13 AMPosted by Lesstoxic
02/12/2018 11:08 AMPosted by Coulumbo
Just a friendly reminder

Moira has zero utility.

You cant just weigh damage and healing and say shes too strong. She brings no discord, no speed boost, no boop, no resurrect, no anti and no sleep.
The way she seamlessly deals damage and heals is literally her utility


This argument sounds desperate, my friend.

I'm sorry, but Moira is just fine.

Once Stage 2 drops, everyone will be running Lucio/Zen anyway.
Too balance.. haha this is great
Zen/Moira are exactly what supports need to be.

Ana is only like that when played by the best of the best. Sadly with Dive still in vogue and her being too mechanically demanding for lower ranked players to be effective on, the only 2 healers viable in this game atm are Zen/Moira
02/12/2018 10:46 AMPosted by Lesstoxic
For overwatch as it is and its going to make her look OP and when you add in the simplicity of how her abilities work its going to make it THAT much more clear. Pretty much the other supports needs to be on her level now because they are just not able to really compete with her damage/healing transition combo. This hero was really well done blizzard team. She truly embodies what a support is. Mobile can dish out some nice damage but can still heal a wound!


It's not like Ana, Zen, Lucio and Mercy (sans rez 2.0) were bad supports before Moira release.

If all other supports need to be buffed to match Moira, then it's Moira who's broken.

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