What exactly is Mccrees role?

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02/08/2018 03:36 PMPosted by BT160711

He’s not really anti flanker. Unless you have super human reflexes, Genji and Tracer both have the upper hand. Flash bang is to quick to finish them off w fan the hammer.


Uhm...why again would you ever fb + fth against tracer?

Flashbang + headshot, is fairly easy to do against a tracer of similar skill as you. Against genji: Flashbang + fth, kills him before he can start deflecting/dash.
02/08/2018 03:47 PMPosted by brokenstyli
02/08/2018 03:45 PMPosted by Crypticarts
Lol, you must be a hit at parties.

OP asked a question. Jeff gave a non-answer.

Jeff's response is literally "git gud".

That's not helpful, nor does it promote any sort of meaningful discussion.


McCree's design is precisely on precision, so yes, that's what matters most. If you're good at aiming, you'll do well on him, that's his role.
I thought that was 76's job. Matter of fact why play McCree over 76??
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay

I popped this comment into google translate. From Detect Language (Savage) to English and here's what it shows:

You gotta know how to aim to be able to play McCree. Git gud.
when pine did this i was like "hell will they notice he cant do !@#$ without mercy or not?" i have my answer now and i am pretty disappointed
02/08/2018 03:51 PMPosted by PlayTheGame
I thought that was 76's job. Matter of fact why play McCree over 76??

McCree kills faster than Soldier and has Stun which can stop ultimates.
02/08/2018 03:42 PMPosted by brokenstyli
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay

Most of the game's population can't hit these shots like Pine can.

You're telling the playerbase that this is his role, but only 10% of the playerbase can actually accurately reproduce this.

The remainder can't fit into this role... which begs the question, what is McCree's role for the players that aren't aim gods?


1. They shouldn't ruin high-skill heroes because casual players struggle with them.

2. McCree has intentionally designed elements to help out those with less aim. Flashbang+Fan is an easy kill on any squishy hero (despite what the OP says). With his rapid roll, that means any 200Hp hero within 15 meters can be blown up with little aim needed from McCree, just by a simple roll+stun+fan combo.

His ult, as well, is all game sense and no aim. It's all about the position of yourself, your team, the enemies, the map, what abilities and ults are up, etc.

While these exist, McCree is still fundamentally a hero about good aim. That's okay to have in OW.

02/08/2018 03:51 PMPosted by Killbill
when pine did this i was like "hell will they notice he cant do !@#$ without mercy or not?" i have my answer now and i am pretty disappointed


While McCree certainly can do stuff without support, he is a DPS that is more team centric. He excels when given appropriate support and protection. Not an independent flanker like Tracer. Team play and diverse DPS heroes are both good things.
02/08/2018 03:47 PMPosted by brokenstyli
02/08/2018 03:45 PMPosted by Crypticarts
Lol, you must be a hit at parties.

OP asked a question. Jeff gave a non-answer.

Jeff's response is literally "git gud".

That's not helpful, nor does it promote any sort of meaningful discussion.


Jeff made a joke, lighten up. You guys whine about everything.
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay


Incredible burn.

This was so timely, just click the link and instantly get shown shutout McCree gameplay
This is basically a confirmation that left click is the only reason you should pick mccree
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay
When Jeff himself comes into a thread and tells OP to git gud. Feels....Good?
what Jeff Kaplan posted is also possible by non-pro players:
https://clips.twitch.tv/BadImportantBoarPicoMause
Woah I got a response from papa Jeff!

As sick as that was... I guess I’ll never be able to use him. I’m on console so I’m not even gonna try
Yeah Mcree is pretty high tier in the right hands, I think he can use some very minor tweaks to improve his consistency in general, but flat out buffs would easily make him Overpowered
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay


Wow after all this time i finally figured out my problem; i'm not pine lol
Poor Pine would be out of a job without McCree.
02/08/2018 03:51 PMPosted by Elyrh
02/08/2018 03:51 PMPosted by PlayTheGame
I thought that was 76's job. Matter of fact why play McCree over 76??

McCree kills faster than Soldier and has Stun which can stop ultimates.


But that's all he's good at. 76 can heal a group, does consistent dmg, sprints, burst dmg and has one of the best ults in the game hands down.
02/08/2018 03:48 PMPosted by Ungod
But when a lower skilled player is playing him he's also playing against lower skilled opponents and doesn't need to be insane.

02/08/2018 03:47 PMPosted by mk8000
Most of the population also aren't going against pro players so it scales downward.

What? No, that's not true at all.

Pine is demonstrating that aim takes priority with McCree. This role is literally play at a mid-distance, away from combat, and take potshots.

If you can't hit, then you can't fill this role. Period.

If you take the run of the mill average player, if they tried to do this exact same thing (flanking left on Ilios, while the enemy team is on the mini healthpack) they'd miss the majority of their shots. They wouldn't get the frags on the enemy team, and eventually the enemy team would turn and dive on McCree.

McCree would lose the fight, and his teammates would flame him for being out of position and getting picked.
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay


Now if only I could aim like that...

...Lol. Like that will ever happen.
02/08/2018 03:42 PMPosted by brokenstyli
02/08/2018 03:39 PMPosted by Jeff Kaplan
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentFilthyWatercressYouDontSay

Most of the game's population can't hit these shots like Pine can.

You're telling the playerbase that this is his role, but only 10% of the playerbase can actually accurately reproduce this.

The remainder can't fit into this role... which begs the question, what is McCree's role for the players that aren't aim gods?

Let me tell you a secret about high skill heros, your argument is their entire point, you need to get good to make them work.

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