90% of the player base are healer mains

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You would think that if you only look at this forum.

In this forum’s opinion any nerf toward healers are unacceptable even though the healer class has been by far the most powerful class since the game came out. (Lucio meta then Zen meta then Ana then Mercy and now Moira)

The reason being, according to this forum, it is okay for healers to be op because you want more people to play healer because they win you games.

That sounds reasonable until you realise if less people are playing healer, the chance of you not getting a healer and your enemies not getting a healer is the same. Thus it will not effect your win rate at all.
Few casuals here does not equal 90% of playerbase

Infact its not even 0.9%
No, it is the genji mains
02/11/2018 06:27 PMPosted by ChillPill
You would think that if you only look at this forum.

In this forum’s opinion any nerf toward healers are unacceptable even though the healer class has been by far the most powerful class since the game came out. (Lucio meta then Zen meta then Ana then Mercy and now Moira)

The reason being, according to this forum, it is okay for healers to be op because you want more people to play healer because they win you games.

That sounds reasonable until you realise if less people are playing healer, the chance of you not getting a healer and your enemies not getting a healer is the same. Thus it will not effect your win rate at all.


You know why support characters "form" the meta? Because there aren't many to choose from... the best support will be meta, cause the others most of the time are way worse than the meta one.
If there are more supports with better balancing to make them equal in terms of viability, then one special one wouldn't form an entire meta around it.
Also there never was a Lucio or Zen Meta. Those two together made a good combo, but they didn't really say which other characters were that good with them.
Dude, so many Mercy mains wanted Mercy nerfed or reverted (which would have been a nerf)

Just stop.
I just want Mercy to have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting PotG.

We're not there yet.
02/11/2018 06:35 PMPosted by NikeOnline
I just want Mercy to have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting PotG.

We're not there yet.


Ana says hi.
02/11/2018 06:27 PMPosted by ChillPill
In this forum’s opinion any nerf toward healers are unacceptable even though the healer class has been by far the most powerful class since the game came out. (Lucio meta then Zen meta then Ana then Mercy and now Moira)

The small number of healers means there is less room for a power gradient. If you look at DPS, you see Genji, Tracer, and Junkrat almost everywhere. Pharah, McCree, and Widow have certain maps they dominate. Torb and Mei have singular points points they work on, and Doomfist comes out as a comfort pick and a way to throw off the enemy. Similarly with tanks, you have your dive tanks and Hog+Orisa for typical compositions, but you still see Rein and Zarya come out occasionally, and you see other combinations like Hog+D.va occasionally.
Now look at the supports. You always have two absurdly good, meta supports that nearly completely push the others to the side. When not good, Mercy is only ever a pharah pocket, Ana doesn't get used except as a comfort pick, Lucio has a 2 points on KotH, and Zen just doesn't get run. I can't include Moira due to her newness.
Metas aren't named after supports because they are so good they run the game. They are just the most constant aspect because tanks and DPS can vary more and have more nuanced power differences.
No, it's just that the support class is tied for defense with the most problems. Therefore, it's fair that they receive half of the complaints. Plus, no one ever complains when no one wants to play a defense hero. People lose their minds if no one wants to play a healer.
this dude might need a doctor
Dude, theres been 4 supports for the majority of the game (Moira being new). If your team is running 2-2-2, then youve got 15% of the damage heros, 30% of the tanks and 50% of the healers. Youll notice that the tanks and supports have a lot less options, least you would if you bothered to do the math.

Ever consider maybe that that is why the metas get named after the supports? If Zen and Lucio are the only 2 viable supports, but theres 10 viable dps and 4 viable tanks, well, yeah, supports it is
90% of the Playerbase mains healer ? how does this work if 60% of the Playerbase already are Genji Mains ?
Its almost as if people have an issue with changes to the game and are using the forum to voice their opinion...Nah, that would make sense.
02/11/2018 06:27 PMPosted by ChillPill
You would think that if you only look at this forum.

In this forum’s opinion any nerf toward healers are unacceptable even though the healer class has been by far the most powerful class since the game came out. (Lucio meta then Zen meta then Ana then Mercy and now Moira)

The reason being, according to this forum, it is okay for healers to be op because you want more people to play healer because they win you games.

That sounds reasonable until you realise if less people are playing healer, the chance of you not getting a healer and your enemies not getting a healer is the same. Thus it will not effect your win rate at all.


OR, and bear with me here because this is gonna be crazy, some people understand that not everything that's decent and/or fun to play, and not in the DPS category needs to be nerfed into the ground.

Healers have just as much right to have fun in the game as the rest of us.
The people on forums tend to frequently include players that are dissatisfied.

Healers over the last year or so have gone under changes that have had significant impact on how they are played/their viability(Plus people don't necessarily like change).

As a result, the forums have lots of players that are healers.

Personally, three of the heros I liked to play most were Ana, Lucio, and Mercy. Thanks to changes primarily due to issues in competitive play all three ended up in a position where I enjoy playing them significantly less/ they are non-viable at my skill level.
02/11/2018 06:50 PMPosted by epicfail48
Dude, theres been 4 supports for the majority of the game (Moira being new).
Symmetra mains crying in the background
02/11/2018 07:07 PMPosted by Navarro
02/11/2018 06:27 PMPosted by ChillPill
You would think that if you only look at this forum.

In this forum’s opinion any nerf toward healers are unacceptable even though the healer class has been by far the most powerful class since the game came out. (Lucio meta then Zen meta then Ana then Mercy and now Moira)

The reason being, according to this forum, it is okay for healers to be op because you want more people to play healer because they win you games.

That sounds reasonable until you realise if less people are playing healer, the chance of you not getting a healer and your enemies not getting a healer is the same. Thus it will not effect your win rate at all.


OR, and bear with me here because this is gonna be crazy, some people understand that not everything that's decent and/or fun to play, and not in the DPS category needs to be nerfed into the ground.

Healers have just as much right to have fun in the game as the rest of us.
If your hero is not The best hero in the game you can’t have fun? Supports class is already the best class in the game
Yeh. Ofcourse Healers mains...

That would explain why everyday 90% of the forums threads are always DPS asking for D.va, Roadhog, Winston nerfs. Asking for Moira heal/dps, Mercy ress nerfs, asking for Zenyatta Discord nerf. And asking nerfs for every ability or Hero which make them have a hard time.

And yeh, so many Healer mains that as a flex player I always end up having to pick Healer or Tank because the other 5 players instant lock DPS or DEF heroes.

Lucio Meta/Zen Meta/Ana Meta you say?

More like 2/2/2 meta, triple tank meta, Dive meta.
Not really. If this was true, I wouldnt be seeing players asking for a healer.
He's just mad because no one wants Moira nerfed. She's legitimately balanced.

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