Moira shouldn't be able to dive Zenyatta solo

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and come out alive.

Why should the support that has the highest healing per second also be able to 1v1 the support who is built around being a 3rd DPS with low healing output?
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I’m sorry but if you cannot kill Moira with Zen then you need to work on your aim
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02/18/2018 07:03 AMPosted by SilverKnight
I’m sorry but if you cannot kill Moira with Zen then you need to work on your aim

He's absolutely right.
02/18/2018 07:03 AMPosted by SilverKnight
I’m sorry but if you cannot kill Moira with Zen then you need to work on your aim


Says the person playing on console with aim assist and a 1.46 ED on Zenyatta.
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I killed as many Moiras as Zen as Zens as Moira. It's pretty fair matchup
02/18/2018 07:06 AMPosted by HanzoMaker
I killed as many Moiras as Zen as Zens as Moira. It's pretty fair matchup


Realistically at almost any skill bracket the Moira will win, the skill it takes to fade in, press E and hold M2 with an autolock beam is nowhere near the skill required to land 2-3 headshots on an AD spamming Moira.

You don't have the time to line up each shot individually and if you miss even one shot you die since she kills you before you fire the killing blow unless she's discorded before she jumps on you and doesn't fade to remove it.

If you hit some lucky headshots, yeah you'll win, but other than that you're dead.
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02/18/2018 07:05 AMPosted by Luca
02/18/2018 07:03 AMPosted by SilverKnight
I’m sorry but if you cannot kill Moira with Zen then you need to work on your aim


Says the person playing on console with aim assist and a 1.46 ED on Zenyatta.
What the !@#$ is wrong with console, just because you can’t hit 2 orbs on a character doesn’t mean that she needs to be changed
02/18/2018 07:09 AMPosted by SilverKnight
02/18/2018 07:05 AMPosted by Luca
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Says the person playing on console with aim assist and a 1.46 ED on Zenyatta.
What the !@#$ is wrong with console, just because you can’t hit 2 orbs on a character doesn’t mean that she needs to be changed


3 Orbs*

Console has aim assist, you can't talk about aim when you've got the game practically playing itself on there.
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02/18/2018 07:08 AMPosted by Luca

autolock beam

*coughSOFTLOCKcough*
Nah, you're right OP. People are going to say "LOOOOOOL JUST CLICK ON HER HEAD 4Head" in here, but most heroes in the game are at a heavy disadvantage with Moira in a 1v1 right now. Especially Zenyatta without any movement abilities.

It feels pretty bad too. Doesn't feel like you got outskilled as much as if it feels like it was you were scissors and she was rock.
02/18/2018 07:09 AMPosted by Luca
02/18/2018 07:09 AMPosted by SilverKnight
...What the !@#$ is wrong with console, just because you can’t hit 2 orbs on a character doesn’t mean that she needs to be changed


3 Orbs*

Console has aim assist, you can't talk about aim when you've got the game practically playing itself on there.
1 headshot 1 body shot but you can’t aim so don’t play Zen.
Plus it’s much easier to aim on pc
02/18/2018 07:13 AMPosted by SilverKnight
1 headshot 1 body shot but you can’t aim so don’t play Zen.
Plus it’s much easier to aim on pc


1 headshot 1 bodyshot does 138 damage...

Easier to aim based on hardware, but when you've got aim assist doing half the work for you, you can't pretend it's not easy on console.
02/18/2018 07:15 AMPosted by Luca
02/18/2018 07:13 AMPosted by SilverKnight
1 headshot 1 body shot but you can’t aim so don’t play Zen.
Plus it’s much easier to aim on pc


1 headshot 1 bodyshot does 138 damage...
With discord, omfg
02/18/2018 07:16 AMPosted by SilverKnight
02/18/2018 07:15 AMPosted by Luca
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1 headshot 1 bodyshot does 138 damage...
With discord, omfg


So you do 179 damage.

She lives regardless...
Zenyatta isn't a frontliner. He should be in the backline shooting orbs from afar while managing his team's health. Getting dived is his weakness since he has no disengage.

Moira on the other hand, is a frontline healer. She should be with her team AND in the enemy's face.

If you're ever in a solo situation as Zenyatta, then something went wrong.
02/18/2018 07:18 AMPosted by Luca
02/18/2018 07:16 AMPosted by SilverKnight
...With discord, omfg


So you do 179 damage.

She lives regardless...
The fact remains that you have terrible aim and therefore should not be playing a character heavily depending on aim
02/18/2018 07:18 AMPosted by Luca
02/18/2018 07:16 AMPosted by SilverKnight
...With discord, omfg


So you do 179 damage.

She lives regardless...

Don't forget about self-healing
Well first of all you only need to land a few good shots as zen if you discord, but more importantly this is a team game, if you are being flanked and a Moira has time to kill you before help can arrive with the low as all hel dps she has then you have done and messed up
You dont have time to aim when Moira dive you with her orb and holding right click,From far distance maybe Zenyatta have chance but close range hard...
You should play more ffa with zen, lots of moiras to practice on. Besides a Moira shouldn't get away with diving zen who should be in the backline close to teammates.

If she doesn't get killed by him she should get teamed on by zens mates.

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