Jardio rank #1 Mei

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Jardio rank 1 Mei with 37% weapon acc and 28% critical hits does less damage than any tank. LUL
#MeiAlmostBalanced
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If we buff Mei too much, she will become oppressive. Therefore, we will increase her stun by 50% and leave her with less DPS than Mercy's pistol has.
And he is #25 in the top 500 so obviously Mei is broken!
Mei doesn’t do damage, she gets picks.
Look at widow and doomfist, their damage stats are pretty low compared to others, but they still get kills.
Mei has a low dps, but she can effectively deal 150 damage per shot which is really high, especially considering that her icicles have a bigger hitbox.
Most dps deal a lot of damage, but a lot of it is just trash damage, Mei deals lower damage but it results in picks a lot more often, Jardio said it himself.
Doesn’t mean she’s balanced, she does lack a lot, but it’s mostly because how easy it is to avoid her cc rather than her having low damage.
02/17/2018 10:53 PMPosted by SwagMaster
Mei doesn’t do damage, she gets picks.
Look at widow and doomfist, their damage stats are pretty low compared to others, but they still get kills.
Mei has a low dps, but she can effectively deal 150 damage per shot which is really high, especially considering that her icicles have a bigger hitbox.
Most dps deal a lot of damage, but a lot of it is just trash damage, Mei deals lower damage but it results in picks a lot more often, Jardio said it himself.
It's mainly due to Mei and the others being more burst damage than anything. Sustained damage characters will put out more damage but they also feed healers a lot of ult charge making it less valuable than burst damage. Her damage is somewhat low even for a bursty hero though with how unreliable her weapon is too especially at longer range.
She's essentially projectile McCree with less consistency but more utility.
she can 1 shot tracer and 2 shot any 200 hp hero and he pellets are rather large. someone with jardios aim can do major work on her but thats the thing. you need insane aim to play her all the time, and even then shes not ameizing/
It's feels so nice to land that headshot on a Tracer though.
umm, he has games where he does like 12k damage, if that's not enough damage output for a character you play I'm sorry you all can't be absurdly broken junkrat and dva, but don't cry about 5 digit damage output.
02/17/2018 10:41 PMPosted by Nevermore
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Overbuff.
If you looked at his damage it's 11,330 damage average per game.
Source: https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Jardio-1490?mode=competitive

Then I looked through top 20 tank mains. For example.
Rank 20 Zarya: https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/ballabanga-2685?mode=competitive

Rank 20 Orisa: https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Coal-11483?mode=competitive

They are also gm player and only playing tank. You see their average damage per game is higher than Jardio's damage on Mei. (except Winston) Winston deals like 9k-10k per game, but there is not really much you can do, to deal more damage than others winston.

Also if you look at what the hero average damage. Every hero does more damage
than Mei except Mercy, Ana, Lucio.
02/17/2018 11:33 PMPosted by Topher
she can 1 shot tracer and 2 shot any 200 hp hero and he pellets are rather large.

1. only in close range and only if you headshot twice and only if the target does get healed or shielded. On a range of 55m you need 5 headshots or 9 body shots to kill a target. By 0.8 sec per shot it would you take atleast 4 sec, if you only hit headshots on that distance. And if we now also think about accuracy on that distance. Yeah. there is no way you gonna kill someone.

Hanzo can 1 shot every hero 200 hp hero. Is he a good dps? Take away his scatter arrow. Is he still good?

"Yeah Mei is not a sniper you idiot!" Yeah. So you have to be pretty close to an enemy, less than 26m to deal full damage or less than 10m to freeze someone. While having no escape ability, no movement ability and the worst selfheal ability in the game.

Soldier heals in a area of 5m 40 health per sec for 5 sec. Can still shot, move, ult etc. (15 sec cd)
Bastion heals himself for 75 health per sec. Can still move. (no cd)
Tracer can heal herself back to full health and get out of the fight/ sticky situations. (12 sec cd)
Roadhog heals himself for 300 health in 1 sec and still move while taking 50% less damage. (8 sec cd)
Ana can heal herself instant for 100 hp. (10 sec cd)
Moira can heal herself for 75 health per sec using orb (10 sec cd) or 105 health per sec using orb and secondary.
Mei only heal herself for 37.5 health per sec in a duration of 4 sec. sure she cant take damage while doing this, but she also cant move or do anything. 4 sec not doing anything and just gets 150 health back.
02/17/2018 10:53 PMPosted by SwagMaster
Mei doesn’t do damage, she gets picks.
Look at widow and doomfist, their damage stats are pretty low compared to others, but they still get kills.
Mei has a low dps, but she can effectively deal 150 damage per shot which is really high, especially considering that her icicles have a bigger hitbox.
Most dps deal a lot of damage, but a lot of it is just trash damage, Mei deals lower damage but it results in picks a lot more often, Jardio said it himself.

Mei with extremely high falloff damage and projectile weapon with delay is meant to get picks?
Sure bro, sure. Next you will tell us she is balanced and that she sees gameplay in masters and grandmasters competitive matches. GTFO.
02/17/2018 11:35 PMPosted by Bigfoot
It's feels so nice to land that headshot on a Tracer though.

sure im not saying she secondary fire needs more damage.

but it would be nice to shot sligthly faster and/or having less damage falloff.

there is no way 22 damage per shot while shoting 1.2 times per sec as her only way of dealing damage is balanced.
Wait if he has 37% weapon accuracy, 28% critical.

37-28 = 9
9-100 = 91

91% of the shots he lands have been headshots.

And this is why he has low damage, because he's frezzed everyone and killed them quickly.

And the tanks are busting out damage all over the place. So of course they would have more. This is a non brainier.
well mei is about cc not damage. and considering that jardio is top 500 proves that mei can work in right hands.
02/18/2018 01:11 AMPosted by Psychokraken
02/17/2018 10:53 PMPosted by SwagMaster
Mei doesn’t do damage, she gets picks.
Look at widow and doomfist, their damage stats are pretty low compared to others, but they still get kills.
Mei has a low dps, but she can effectively deal 150 damage per shot which is really high, especially considering that her icicles have a bigger hitbox.
Most dps deal a lot of damage, but a lot of it is just trash damage, Mei deals lower damage but it results in picks a lot more often, Jardio said it himself.

Mei with extremely high falloff damage and projectile weapon with delay is meant to get picks?
Sure bro, sure. Next you will tell us she is balanced and that she sees gameplay in masters and grandmasters competitive matches. GTFO.

She is also the hero with the lowest final blows average per round. Meant to get picks with. LUL

The only consistant way to get picks is by freezing them.
Imagine Hanzo with 75 damage, damage falloff, no scatter arrow. Balanced?
02/18/2018 01:22 AMPosted by Kamran
well mei is about cc not damage. and considering that jardio is top 500 proves that mei can work in right hands.
The same thing can be said about Symmetra and pre-fix Doomfist.

Just because a pro can make a character work, doesn't mean that the character is viable and balanced.
I just means that the pro has reached an insane level of skill with that hero that most of us will never have.

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