Never see any Zaryas these days

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02/18/2018 03:08 PMPosted by Dobber
Reason I dont play Zarya anymore: Scatter

When that is gone I might play her again


Scatter almost never one shots a Zarya her hitbox is too small. She is extremely annoying for Hanzo as well since you can just pop your bubble on any straggler he is targeting.

I see too many Zaryas to be honest because people try to use her as a main tank and never take any space for the rest of the team.
02/18/2018 03:10 PMPosted by torkahn808
Zarya's just too slow. She has a long reload time, long cool downs and no mobility so she isn't favored today. Like Rein, she's a victim of a fast paced game and she doesn't have the tools to answer when dived upon. Maybe she should retain her charge longer? Make it so it doesn't decay as fast.


Yeah, I feel that Zarya is still a solid hero, but like Ana, the meta has shifted away from the slow-moving, barrier-based meta of old, which both Ana and Zarya are favored in. But dive just isn't their thing, I dont' feel either need a buff, mainly because if either of them were actually good in dive meta, they'd probably be crazy OP in any other meta.
I play a lot of Zarya, but I don't usually bother unless I have a second tank or some friends are playing and I try and keep them alive to stop them raging...

In the current qp meta of 6 dps I aint bothering tanking for people if I wait for everyone to pick and theres 3 dps, a hanzo and a widow... Imma just play Mei/Roadhog/McCree instead.

02/18/2018 04:02 PMPosted by JohnnyGuitar
I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few Zarya mains left. Her problem is that she is inherently hard to balance, since most of her problems are on other players either not shooting at you or not being in a position that they can be shot at. Plus, now that D.Va has missiles, the advantage Zarya had over her is basically gone, and that was her niche in the dive meta: shutting D.Va down.

I don't know the numbers, but micro missiles haven't really bothered me too much as a Zarya. If I bubble someone that she charges she can't stop shooting the missiles so more damage for me. This makes it more likely that they'll pop the bubble (more damage for me =D) rather than just wait a second and letting it run out. Don't get me wrong, a Zarya ain't stopping a coordinated dive as evidenced by OWL (ie if the best Zaryas in the world aint stopping it what hope do I have), but against the scrubs you see in qp its usually good enough.

02/18/2018 03:08 PMPosted by Dobber
Reason I dont play Zarya anymore: Scatter

When that is gone I might play her again

Weirdly enough I rarely get scattered as Zarya. Mainly as Orisa or a lot of other slimmer heroes. I'll still be glad to see it gone though.

02/18/2018 03:53 PMPosted by Asryam
Cause Zarya is longer a DVA counter, she's a strong tank no doubt, but not from the get go, this game is all about the get go, I wouldn't mind getting 50% charge back, or lowering discharge rate.

I've never really had too much trouble with Dva personally and I can usually melt her down but I wouldn't say no to a reduced rate of energy loss. Or maybe have the rate of loss stay the same and have it stop for a few seconds at 25/50/75/100? Or have the bubble give her 10 energy for free you use it?
02/18/2018 03:10 PMPosted by torkahn808
Zarya's just too slow. She has a long reload time, long cool downs and no mobility so she isn't favored today. Like Rein, she's a victim of a fast paced game and she doesn't have the tools to answer when dived upon. Maybe she should retain her charge longer? Make it so it doesn't decay as fast.


So un-nerf her
I don't play her much because her movement cause too much screen shake than other characters. Got nausea every time I played her for a couple of matches.
I feel like she is very rewarding but also very situational. For example, last season I started noticing a trend in QP. Whenever our team had a second tank (preferably a Rein) to hold the front line with me, with 2 good healers and 2 DPS, I would always have much higher charge, meaning more gravs, meaning a higher chance of winning.

So I tried it in comp and at the start of every solo queue game I would just mention that if we get a good 2,2,2, and the 2nd tank holds the front line with me, our chances of winning will go way up! Most of the time people listened, other times people laughed and mentioned my low rank. Regardless, it worked, and I even ended up adding people and working with mains of those specific heroes that worked with the comp I needed, ie; a Rein, a Mercy, etc.

Eventually, it all helped me climb from silver to plat with a fluctuating k/d of 4.5-5. It's not that Zarya isn't rewarding, it's just that she's very situational. I find that outside of those parameters, she's half as effective. Like if she has to solo tank, it immediately means less charge, less gravs, less kills, etc.

It's one of the reasons all I've played this season is Tracer. She's independent, strong from the start, and doesn't rely on a specific type of comp to shine, she can work with anything. She's like the ace up my sleeve for those times when Zarya doesn't apply.
02/18/2018 04:42 PMPosted by possumcorpse
02/18/2018 03:08 PMPosted by Dobber
Reason I dont play Zarya anymore: Scatter

When that is gone I might play her again


Scatter almost never one shots a Zarya her hitbox is too small.


With almost 200 hours on Zarya, I can confirm that that's a lie. From silver to plat, I've been one shot by scatter many times. It's a cheap, lazy ability tbh, and I'm kinda glad it's been looked at & reworked.
The mobility meta, so to speak, is what's making it hard for Zarya. But, the quad-tank lineup that NYXL pulled out on Horizon might see her return more if the greater community tries it out – she was pretty central to that and they more or less steam-rolled the second point because Zarya was at such a high charge.

I have seen her a lot in CTF, even in lowly gold. With everyone else's mobility abilities restricted she's a pretty good escort or even a flag carrier. Hope to see her some more.
There is hope yet. Genguri has joined Shanghai Dragons. To top it off, she joined on Valentine's Day :D
I love zarya. She's my go to tank when we have the team goes D.Va + 2 flankers. Particularly on attack. Tho I dont get to play her that much since im a fill/flex player and im usually on the healer role
Why would you pick Zarya when D.Va is there?
You don't have to be as good mechanically.
You don't have to smartly build charge to do any damage, D.Va has insane burst damage that requires no build up.
You don't have a fraction of the mobility, D.Va can get just about anywhere with ease.
You only have one bubble to help your team where as D.Va can eat a tonne of ults for your team, or use her boost to disrupt a Dragon blade.

The only logical reason you may play Zarya is if you are going up against a comp that guarantees charge and you are fantastic with her ult (Which D.Va could just eat, and there is almost always a D.Va)

If I am filling off tank then 9 times out of 10 i'd go D.Va. She is just too strong not to pick.
02/18/2018 07:33 PMPosted by ComftblyNumb
02/18/2018 04:42 PMPosted by possumcorpse
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Scatter almost never one shots a Zarya her hitbox is too small.


With almost 200 hours on Zarya, I can confirm that that's a lie. From silver to plat, I've been one shot by scatter many times. It's a cheap, lazy ability tbh, and I'm kinda glad it's been looked at & reworked.


No you haven't. You don't understand what is killing you. Even if you are constantly hanging out in cramped hallways it is unlikely that scatter will oneshot you as Zarya.
02/18/2018 07:51 PMPosted by possumcorpse
No you haven't. You don't understand what is killing you. Even if you are constantly hanging out in cramped hallways it is unlikely that scatter will oneshot you as Zarya.
Yeah, uh, hi. Zarya Main #2 here. Scatter can oneshot a Zarya, and it has done so to me a ton, especially in competitive. The thing is, most people don't try to scatter Zaryas. They go for healers and DPS in my experience, or the fatter tanks. When they do, though, every shot seems to hit. And if not, it does upwards of 250, needs just one more shot and a punch to kill you. Totally broken, thank god they're fixing it.
Honestly dva is the only reason we see no zarya since they made it so she can burn down 200 hp heros fast plus has dm to shotdown 10 of the ult in the game
02/18/2018 04:42 PMPosted by possumcorpse
02/18/2018 03:08 PMPosted by Dobber
Reason I dont play Zarya anymore: Scatter

When that is gone I might play her again


Scatter almost never one shots a Zarya her hitbox is too small. She is extremely annoying for Hanzo as well since you can just pop your bubble on any straggler he is targeting.


Bull. 800 hours on Zarya. I've seen it all. Whenever I die from Hanzo. It's 80% Scatter. I'm happy when I see Hanzo kill me with just their regular arrow. "Just pop your bubble" Please. I'm the one doing 4 jobs at the same time. Hanzo just stays behind his team, and ballerina's his way around walls.

What I do when I get killed by a Scatter. The next time I kill Hanzo. I grenade at his feet. Three hits, flies around like a moron and dies.

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