Why would you pick Reinhardt over Orisa?

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It's clear at the moment that Orisa is just superior in almost every way:

- Her shield is up for much longer compared to Reinhardt.
- She can shoot while the shield is up while Reinhardt can't do any damage. Orisa spam down a choke can be much more effective at keeping attackers at bay compared to a Reinhardt just having his shield up (and having to take it down in order to fire strike).
- If she dies her shield stays up.

The only way Reinhardt might be better than Orisa is his slightly higher HP and his ultimate. But his ultimate is so buggy that it might not even be worth picking Reinhardt for his ultimate.

Does anyone else think that Rein is just really weak compared to Orisa?
Better shield mobility than orisa. He can reposition his shield to block a dva bomb for example, while orisa can only do it if her shield is on cd

Earthshatter is a much better ult than supercharger

Enables zarya play. Orisa + zarya is a pretty bad combo. Rein + zarya have good synergies
I'm better with Reinhardt than Orisa and his ultimate charges much faster and is a bit more game-changing if you can get it down.
02/20/2018 10:35 AMPosted by Pigeon
t's clear at the moment that Orisa is just superior in almost every way
Her pickrate is not even close to Reins even in GM right now. Reins is not weaker, Orisa was just better in mercywatch.
His quotes are more than enough to get me to play him.
"Bring me another!"
Or when you charge into the enemy:
"Let me show you how it's done!"
02/20/2018 10:45 AMPosted by Grayson
His quotes are more than enough to get me to play him.
"Bring me another!"
Or when you charge into the enemy:
"Let me show you how it's done!"


Agreed.

I would pick Rienhardt because he is Rienhardt;)
Reinhart has better mobility overall thanks to Charge and being able to move his shield with him. He's far superior to Orisa in CQC thanks to how his hammer works and has better burst potential with Firestrike. Earthshatter is a much better ultimate, or at least it's impact is much more noticeable, since it can be used either proactively, to set up a push or ult combo, or reactively, to prevent an enemy push or ult combo, like a Beyblade.
Quad Tank
Because he's fun and his weapon doesn't feel like it's a peashooter.. Sadly, that isn't good enough to bring him into being a useful hero again.
02/20/2018 10:35 AMPosted by Pigeon
It's clear at the moment that Orisa is just superior in almost every way:

- Her shield is up for much longer compared to Reinhardt.
- She can shoot while the shield is up while Reinhardt can't do any damage. Orisa spam down a choke can be much more effective at keeping attackers at bay compared to a Reinhardt just having his shield up (and having to take it down in order to fire strike).
- If she dies her shield stays up.

The only way Reinhardt might be better than Orisa is his slightly higher HP and his ultimate. But his ultimate is so buggy that it might not even be worth picking Reinhardt for his ultimate.

Does anyone else think that Rein is just really weak compared to Orisa?
I like to smack idiotsinto walls for the fun of it. His ult is more fun and shield lasts longer
Rein is far more meta than Orisa at the moment, and it essentially comes down to Lucio imo. When Lucio wasn't meta, then yeah, Orisa seems generally better. When Lucio IS meta, then a Reinhardt beats Orisa.

Orisa can do a lot, but she can't handle a speedboosted Reinhardt escorting his team through her shield at a supersonic speed. Additionally, a speedboosted Orisa isn't quite as threatening as a speedboosted Reinhardt in direct combat.
Hmm. . .Hammer Down or !@#$o. . .

Hammer down. . .or. . .%^-*o. . .

Hmm. . .
02/20/2018 10:42 AMPosted by timotmcc
Better shield mobility than orisa. He can reposition his shield to block a dva bomb for example, while orisa can only do it if her shield is on cd

Earthshatter is a much better ult than supercharger

Enables zarya play. Orisa + zarya is a pretty bad combo. Rein + zarya have good synergies
Yep, plus that Rein is better in close combat cuz of his aoe swings
. . .Is !@#$o seriously bleeped out?
Because CATCHPHRASE > Do you need a hug?
I can't aim.
Rein is better with zarya. So if you want grav (ex. you full held on hanamura first and you need only 1 tick), it's better to run rein. He is also much better in triple/quad tank because of his shield mobility.

Also keep in mind that orisa becomes so good against rein only if she has hog or junk with her to break the shield. If she has dva or zarya and no junk for dps, rein can outplay the orisa because his shield likely won't go down as fast so he can pin her (when she has no shift) or easily walk past her shield and shatter everyone.
Rein is much better at close range. If the enemy’s tactic is to just dive into you quickly, you have a massive hammer to swat them away.
Fair enough guys, you've opened up my eyes on both heroes. I don't play either of them much so I was just making observations based on people on my teams in ranked playing Orisa and Reinhardt. I always felt like I was winning more when my team had an Orisa vs an enemy Reinhardt but I guess both have strengths and weaknesses.
- His play style favors pushing a team around them, her's is about making a blockade around her. I.E. He's best for pressing the enemy, and she's best for heavy defense/stalling.

- His shield is mobile. Up, down, sideways, slantways, for-ways, whatever ways! He can adjust his shield on the fly from most directions to meet demands in the moment. Orisa's shield is stationary for 8 seconds and demands proper placement.

- Rein shield 2000 health, self generates. Orisa shield 900 health, CD.

Both have their purposes and usage, so I see both as interchangeable depending on the team needs and situations.

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