Reaper Buff Plz....

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02/19/2018 12:39 AMPosted by JainMor
He's the only character in the game that has just one ability they can viably use in combat :/

I wish his teleport made him invulnerable while he did it like his wrait. That way it's still slow, people know he is coming, and can still react, but he can actually use it during combat.

Or make him move a lot faster while wraithing, make it last less time to prevent point stalls and have it on a meter that builds up the more damage you do, so you can use it to close distances and disengage.

Or give him a new ability.

Pretty please Devs


Yeah, you can get shoot and the animation is not even really finished...
I feel like Reaper isn't necessarily bad per-se, he can technically be effective, he's just really outshone by other heroes.

Tank buster? Yeah...Reaper can do that pretty well but Junkrat can do it better and with much less risk. Flank? At least three better options on that score and two are practically tank busters themselves. And then there's Hog...So yeah, technically, that all does make him kind of bad but unfortunately, not in an easy way for many to see. So people keep labeling him "niche" while ignoring that he isn't actually the best at said niche.

At any rate, I don't see how anyone can deny Shadow Step is trash and needs reworked/heavily buffed. No other ability is as useless within combat situations (and thereby, the vast majority of the game), the closest is probably Thermoptic Camo, but even that can be animation canceled and at least used as an escape. And besides, Shadow Step is terrible even at positioning.
02/19/2018 01:34 AMPosted by Jinx
At any rate, I don't see how anyone can deny Shadow Step is trash and needs reworked/heavily buffed. No other ability is as useless within combat situations (and thereby, the vast majority of the game), the closest is probably Thermoptic Camo, but even that can be animation canceled and at least used as an escape. And besides, Shadow Step is terrible even at positioning.


I agree and most complaints are basically about his Shadow-Step.
I have 5 options for Reaper
Buff shadowstep
Buff wraithform by either increasing the speed or let you get out of it whenever
Buff his base walking speed
Penetrate armor/ignore defenses like hogs vape
Give him a whole new ability
02/18/2018 06:48 PMPosted by SadEmbracer
I created A LOT of topics and still can't get developer to notice how weak Reaper is ;-;
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946494
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946476
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761856279
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20762066362
I just want my main hero to be balanced..
Teleporting is slow unreliable, 2 separate moment of being vulnerable...loud asf and visual is begging to be shot at.
Wraith form is easily chased down.
No actual way to gap close when enemies know where you are.


IMO he only needs a few small buffs
Like his ammo clip larger or you know make the tank buster be effective at taking out armor so he can do his job
02/19/2018 02:01 AMPosted by BT160615
02/18/2018 06:48 PMPosted by SadEmbracer
I created A LOT of topics and still can't get developer to notice how weak Reaper is ;-;
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946494
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946476
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761856279
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20762066362
I just want my main hero to be balanced..
Teleporting is slow unreliable, 2 separate moment of being vulnerable...loud asf and visual is begging to be shot at.
Wraith form is easily chased down.
No actual way to gap close when enemies know where you are.


IMO he only needs a few small buffs
Like his ammo clip larger or you know make the tank buster be effective at taking out armor so he can do his job

His damage is fine...just that he die TOO easily
bump
How did exactly repaer became underpowered all the sudden?
Just because you have spammed the hell out of the foums, that doen't make your statement more right.
02/19/2018 07:58 AMPosted by HANA
How did exactly repaer became underpowered all the sudden?
Just because you have spammed the hell out of the foums, that doen't make your statement more right.


D.Va main talks about forum-spam, oh boy...
02/18/2018 06:48 PMPosted by SadEmbracer
I created A LOT of topics and still can't get developer to notice how weak Reaper is ;-;
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946494
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946476
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761856279
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20762066362
I just want my main hero to be balanced..
Teleporting is slow unreliable, 2 separate moment of being vulnerable...loud asf and visual is begging to be shot at.
Wraith form is easily chased down.
No actual way to gap close when enemies know where you are.


I agree, small adjustments
IMO he only needs a few small buffs
Like his ammo clip larger or you know make the tank buster be effective at taking out armor so he can do his job
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02/18/2018 06:48 PMPosted by SadEmbracer
I created A LOT of topics and still can't get developer to notice how weak Reaper is ;-;
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946494
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761946476
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20761856279
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20762066362
I just want my main hero to be balanced..
Teleporting is slow unreliable, 2 separate moment of being vulnerable...loud asf and visual is begging to be shot at.
Wraith form is easily chased down.
No actual way to gap close when enemies know where you are.


I agree, small adjustments
IMO he only needs a few small buffs
Like his ammo clip larger or you know make the tank buster be effective at taking out armor so he can do his job
02/18/2018 08:03 PMPosted by Profane
I think the most he needs is a buff to Shadow Step. If it were much faster he'd actually be a usable flanker.

Now when he uses it, it's a big "Hey, Roadhog wanna hook me? Widow wanna snipe me in the face, maybe you too Hanzo? Doomfist want to rocket punch me into a wall? Or hey, maybe Reinhardt wants to charge me into a wall instead. Actually, I think Ana should sleep dart me turning me into a free kill for them. Or anyone can throw an ultimate at my face too."

I would say near instant activation would be enough(Give him some frames of vulnerability before and after). Skilled snipers could still counter it if they expect him to do it, and he'd get the mobility he desperately needs. If that doesn't work, then allow him to use it when airborne. It's pretty annoying when you go to use it only to get booped or pulled away by enemies.

This^

I think this is all he really needs. The rest of the suggestions seem to be nice to haves but making shadow-step relevant would really help him out.
02/19/2018 07:30 PMPosted by predat0r
02/18/2018 08:03 PMPosted by Profane
I think the most he needs is a buff to Shadow Step. If it were much faster he'd actually be a usable flanker.

Now when he uses it, it's a big "Hey, Roadhog wanna hook me? Widow wanna snipe me in the face, maybe you too Hanzo? Doomfist want to rocket punch me into a wall? Or hey, maybe Reinhardt wants to charge me into a wall instead. Actually, I think Ana should sleep dart me turning me into a free kill for them. Or anyone can throw an ultimate at my face too."

I would say near instant activation would be enough(Give him some frames of vulnerability before and after). Skilled snipers could still counter it if they expect him to do it, and he'd get the mobility he desperately needs. If that doesn't work, then allow him to use it when airborne. It's pretty annoying when you go to use it only to get booped or pulled away by enemies.

This^

I think this is all he really needs. The rest of the suggestions seem to be nice to haves but making shadow-step relevant would really help him out.

Shadow step should be reworked xD
How does it make sense that Moira a support can teleport way better than a dps

Why can't reaper teleport that fast to make his shotgun useful
There is a plethora of very good rework/ability replacement suggestions already out there and I would love to see some of them tested out, but if the devs don’t feel like he needs such extreme changes then it should be pointed out that even a simple numbers buff to Shadow Step could make a huge difference.

If Shadow Step could actually be cast in no more than 1 second total (or even faster), it could become a very good in-combat gap-closing engagement and escape tool. See those squishes in the backline? Shadow Step next to them quickly and blast them down. Getting chased by 3 heroes with no way out? Shadow Step away immediately to safety.

And don’t tell me it would be OP because Tracer and Genji can already do this, and more. The current Shadow Step is borderline unusable in-combat; I struggle to think of another hero in the game that has an ability which is useless in-combat.
02/20/2018 04:43 AMPosted by Stormrage101
There is a plethora of very good rework/ability replacement suggestions already out there and I would love to see some of them tested out, but if the devs don’t feel like he needs such extreme changes then it should be pointed out that even a simple numbers buff to Shadow Step could make a huge difference.

If Shadow Step could actually be cast in no more than 1 second total (or even faster), it could become a very good in-combat gap-closing engagement and escape tool. See those squishes in the backline? Shadow Step next to them quickly and blast them down. Getting chased by 3 heroes with no way out? Shadow Step away immediately to safety.

And don’t tell me it would be OP because Tracer and Genji can already do this, and more. The current Shadow Step is borderline unusable in-combat; I struggle to think of another hero in the game that has an ability which is useless in-combat.


Your suggestion would be really nice.
02/20/2018 04:43 AMPosted by Stormrage101
There is a plethora of very good rework/ability replacement suggestions already out there and I would love to see some of them tested out, but if the devs don’t feel like he needs such extreme changes then it should be pointed out that even a simple numbers buff to Shadow Step could make a huge difference.

If Shadow Step could actually be cast in no more than 1 second total (or even faster), it could become a very good in-combat gap-closing engagement and escape tool. See those squishes in the backline? Shadow Step next to them quickly and blast them down. Getting chased by 3 heroes with no way out? Shadow Step away immediately to safety.

And don’t tell me it would be OP because Tracer and Genji can already do this, and more. The current Shadow Step is borderline unusable in-combat; I struggle to think of another hero in the game that has an ability which is useless in-combat.

This
Bump?
02/18/2018 07:46 PMPosted by Dorian
This isn't necessarily relevant, but am i the only one who gets randomly one shot by Reaper a lot? I think im just dumb.


reaper is my main dps and while he Can one shot 200 health if landed well, its sorta a rare thing if u jump a lot and make it hard to hit your head lol
02/20/2018 07:16 AMPosted by EvilSJW
02/18/2018 07:46 PMPosted by Dorian
This isn't necessarily relevant, but am i the only one who gets randomly one shot by Reaper a lot? I think im just dumb.


reaper is my main dps and while he Can one shot 200 health if landed well, its sorta a rare thing if u jump a lot and make it hard to hit your head lol

yup, Reaper have to get REALLY close.

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