Zerg Discussion

Aug 15 Trouble in ZvT I've been having a lot of trouble in ZvT lately (me being Z). I'm Gold Tier 2 and I keep being put up against Plat Terran players. Most of the time they go Bio,Tank, and Libs which I suck at going against. I know ravagers are good against both Liberators and Tanks but I can never really get my shots out correctly. Hydras will melt against Libs and the tanks and Bio shooting me as I'm focus firing the Libs don't help either. Any suggestions in this scenario? Or just ZvT in general? Another problem: For Ravager shots I tried both 1)holding Z and click and 2) hotkey ravagers press Z then Shift-click. For some reason not all my ravagers will shoot, because they are all trying to organize themselves in the place I last destination I clicked. Or when I try both shooting methods it shows just a green line to the area I biled and they just start auto-ing. Help?PopShock6 Aug 15
Aug 14 Ideas for New All Ins I know there are quite a few but it would be nice to get some fresh ones that haven't been seen a whole lot recently. Please give some thank you.MemeSenpai5 Aug 14
Aug 12 HELP I'm a noob, this replay... I'm a bronze noob and suck. This replay is proof of that. I was matched against a gold Terran and for some reason, my units didn't do crap to the other player. I'm assuming Roach/Ravager doesn't cut it anymore? No matter how many units I make, it just doesn't break Terran's defense in any game. Yeah there were mistakes (supply block, choke). Here is the replay: http://lotv.spawningtool.com/21220/ Also, why did my opponent surrender when he was about to destroy me? Makes no sense, maybe he was pitying my poor performance as a Zerg player?TwinkleToes5 Aug 12
Aug 7 ZvP - mass void-rays Hello! When I see he's massing VR's what is the best counter? I didn't know at the time (bad scouting) that he was ONLY building VR's. Just wondering what the best counter is when I see so many VR's. Thanks in advance.Lokei9 Aug 7
Aug 3 Does Anyone Still Go Muta Ling Bane? I still like going Muta Ling Bane against Terran but the Liberators really mess me up. You either have to wait until they go into their ground mode or magic box them when there are only one or two. Does anyone else still prefer this style to Roach Ravager?Migrax14 Aug 3
Aug 1 3 Hatch Opener Versus Protoss In my limited experience playing the 3 hatch opening against Protoss, I find myself vulnerable to early adepts, oracles, or even proxy zealots. The economic damage from the early pressure usually negates any advantage I would gain by droning. Should this opening only be used in situations when you know your opponent will also open greedy?indiicheng5 Aug 1
Jul 31 Burrow Morph would it work? Would the ability to morph units while burrowed make burrow more viable or would it just leave burrow the same; barely used with the rare exception trying to block expos or sneak roach attack/roach ZvZ micro. I mean burrow is still really obvious off creep so maybe a change to not see still burrowed units so you could move in close then stop morph ravengers or banes and pop out and attack. Idk it was something I thought of and hope you give it a fair view.Biomech3 Jul 31
Jul 29 ZvZ - Silver - What could I have done? Hello everyone! ZvZ - he went 14 pool/gas and ling rushed me. I went 17 hatch 18 gas 17 pool. I saw him coming (~60% of the way there) when my pool was at ~75% and my nat just finished (no option to cancel). Lost my nat but started to have a lead on lings, then attacked 2 banes too close to them finishing and BOOM - I'm dead. Just wondering if I could have done anything different. Do I need to start my pool quicker in ZvZ? Other than drone scouting I don't know how I could have seen this sooner. Thanks in advance! Edit - a link to the replay may help, no? http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/3169649Lokei5 Jul 29
Jul 28 Control Group and hotkey practice Hey guys, I have a setup I'd like to share and get some feedback on. CONTROL GROUPS: 1 - ling, bane (mid-late game), ultra, transfuse queen (late game) 2 - roach, ravager, hydra, bane (early game) 3 - lurker, swarm host, muta (mid game), 4 - creep queen (early game), corruptor, muta (late game), viper, broodlord 5 - inject queen, all queens (late game), broodlord (late game) 6 - infestor 7 - nydus 8 (bound to 'R') - hatcheries 9 (bound to 'T') - tech buildings 10 (bound to 'Y') - Overlords, Drop Overlords, Overseers Note: Overseers add ctrl group to every army group HOTKEYS: Shift + F1-F7 - create camera location F1 - F7 - Camera Location Hotkeys ~ - select all army Tab - scroll unit Caps Lock - idle worker Spacebar - Base Scroll Cntrl + # - Create cntrl group Shift + # - Add cntrl group Shift + Cntrl + # - Add and remove cntrl group G - Burrow, roach warren F - Transfuse W - Inject (I use this for better inject ergonomics. R, Spacebar, W, click middle of the screen, ||: spacebar, W, Click :|| C - use unit ability (hold down C to spam creep tumors and infested terran) - BuyoBuyo0 Jul 28
Jul 28 For the united Swarm. *Overmind* vs Terran/Protoss: 1. Pool 2. Drone 3. Drone 4. Overlord 5. Drone 6. Gas 7. Drone 8. Drone 9. Queen 10. 3D. -> Gas 11. Drone 12. Drone 13. Drone 14. Roach Warren 15. Drone 16. Queen inject(repeat) 17. Overlord 18. Drone 19. 4 Roaches 20. Overlord 21. 4 Roaches 22. Overlord 23. +1 extra Larvae 24. 4 Roaches 25. OverlordZackmchack5 Jul 28
Jul 23 Zerg 6th Anniversary On 7/23/2016 StarCraft 2 is logging in at the fastest download and company upload speed to my knowledge.AeonLegio0 Jul 23
Jul 23 Starcraft 2 Release - GrandMasters Story ZERG STORY: : : Starcraft 2 Release - GrandMasters Story Back when I used to play StarCraft 2 I was a Bronzie. I had a lot of lag and so I couldn't get to Platinum until I fixed my lag. So then I fought my way to Diamond and topped out Masters when I was maybe fourteen-fifteen. I was IdLegion and I was in a clan with my old best friends whom topped out Masters with me. (Haven't talked since I stopped playing.) So I played with those guys, and my other best friend, Legion#(1/2) (Grand Masters). So what is the story behind StarCraft User: Legion , July 27, 2010 Before I even mention the Master / Grand Master Story between two players Legion, I have to tell you - I am sorry to say that I no longer do business with StarCraft . They let me into the Beta and I didn't play. The WoW audience has their heads too far up their !@#$ to pay me a mention. Anyways, I stopped business with Star craft because I lost faith in most parts of the company - due to WoW : Legion. STORY RESUMED: By the time I met my buddy [user: legion], I had already made it to Diamond. He was silver and so I paid him very serious attention and within short time he surpassed me. He outdid me and became Masters. A transition from Silver to Masters was astounding. I was Proud but he had learned from his senpai. Then there was me, the after-bloom who became Masters after having him tell me that I could make it. I was ranking Top :16-32 Masters (ZERGGGG). BOTH of us played Zerg. Big big on the Zerg. Then we played HoTs, and I didn't buy the Protoss Expansion. Protoss were too overpowered for me. Long story short, we were always the Starcraft Legion and never the WoW Legion. Anyways, I hope you find interest, see you all in Heroes of the Storm.AeonLegio0 Jul 23
Jul 23 Newbie Needs Help (NNH) Hey people, could you guys give me the standard build orders for Zerg vs Terran, Zerg vs Protoss and Zerg vs Zerg?I'm in Bronze 15 moving up to silver and I know how to counter cheese so I win enough games but in a normal match I don't fare that well because I don't have a proper build order.So, build order please?<3IcEwoLF11 Jul 23
Jul 22 Quit and came back! Need help! Hello everyone! I have quit SC2 since last summer and I came back to today! I have Legacy of the Void installed and I was soo surprised by the 12 worker start! What happened? I would really like to get back to masters league on LoTV like that I will complete my masters league trio (WoL, HoTS and finally LoTV). However, this has thrown me off so much that I don't know what to do!! Any tips? Websites to visit where I could get a general view of how 1v1s are played now? PS: I'm kinda disappointed by that decision to start us with 12 drones, they basically removed the early early game from starcraft.DonCorleone3 Jul 22
Jul 22 how do i beat protoss in 2v2 me and my friend play zerg both in 2v2 and everytime we play they go skytoss and we cant beat it its bsxlordofgamex3 Jul 22
Jul 20 what would be the bedt anti zerg late game? Im a diamond terran and right now im a doing tuetle mech So far my comp is thor ghost raven lib/viking banshee Wanted to know if there was a better compAtom2 Jul 20
Jul 19 TvZ: Lurker Nydus Anyone else been trying 5 Lurker Nydus pushes vs Terran? So far I've been having extreme success with it. 5 lurkers asap with the nydus, queens and hydras with an overseer for detection. I keep an eye out for where the terran army is positioned, making sure to nydus where they can't get to in time to one shot the Nydus, preferrably in the main. WHen the Nydus pops, burrow the lurkers 1 by 1 ASAP as they kill the bio coming to kill the Nydus. Hydras and queens pour out after, creep spread their base and psoition your lurkers well from there. If tankivac comes into play queens will push it back with the creep spread as the Lurkers mulch the terran base. Make sure to burrow a lurker or two ASAP at a cliff line to chip the mineral line of the nat from safety and potentially the 3rd/4th, depending on the map. If terran goes for a base trade load 3/4 of your army including most of your lurkers back into the nydus and defend for an easy victory. Feels like terran has absolutely no answer to this currently. Bio can't enguage into lurkers, tankivac gets pushed away by queens. Liberators get killed by the loads of hydras/queens as they set up before they can start 1 shotting enough hydras to matter. Normal tank positioning is ineffective vs Lurkers unless there's enough to one shot them due to how fast the Lurker burrows. Banshees fail vs hydras and die on the retreat due to queens+overseer. Planetary Fortresses don't out range Lurkers. Base trading doesn't work because by time they get to your base, they've taken game ending damage and Nydus allows for instant transportation back to your base to defend while allowing you go go back through after the defense to finish the game. It's not even that allin because Lurkers are fantastic defensive units and can easily retreat through the Nydus to allow a macro game from that point on.DankTemplar1 Jul 19
Jul 19 Love the new ladder <3 Why didn't they bring out these ladder changes earlier? I have been stuck on Gold for years and, with the new system to inspire me, managed to finally reach Plat :)))) Now I'm too scared to play ladder again :PKynetic6 Jul 19
Jul 18 Zerg OL Dropping like the Terran I was thinking to myself why couldn't Zerg drop with Lurkers/Banes just like Terran does? I think it's because our minds aren't trained to.indiicheng5 Jul 18
Jul 16 New Zergling Hey guys, I recently came back to SC2 after a year long break. I didn't play too intensely or took it too serious, just more as a for fun game. I picked up Zerg within the last few days, and have just been playing 2v2 to get a few builds down well before I transition into 1v1 play. So far I am pretty comfortable with a few builds I've watched from LOWKO; roach/ravager/hydra, ling into quick ultralisks/hydras, and your standard ling rush. I have been averaging about 90-100 ping if that matters at all. I'm currently in top 8 silver, and crushing opponents with the builds I have practiced up. I am continually the top player on the score screen. If you guys can point me in the right direction for some additional outside sources to improve my play that would be awesome. I would like to go as far as I can with this game, and invest a little more time into it. Help this Zergling metamorphosize into the the Ultralisk he knows he can be. Updated: Just got to Gold Rank 3!jpruneda4 Jul 16
Jul 15 zerg most spell intensive race? Does anyone else think if we just learned 3 cntrl group army control with fungal + abduct/blinding cloud or corrosive bile, our armies can beat toss or terran. granted toss has shade, forcefield, storm, timewarp and feedback, our spell casters are more clunky and require more strategy in unit positioning than theirs therefore requiring more control (as opposed to just walking around with a deathball).Buyo1 Jul 15
Jul 15 Why zergs meta is boring... sup guys as a master zerg player i find the meta kinda boring.. in zvt = muta line bane / roach ravager zvp = lurkers hydras i was thinking what are the reasons for this? first thing is that for example terrans main army (infantry) is upgraded by one upgrade that upgrades all ground infantry.. for protoss if you upgrade attack every ground unit is upgraded.. now for the problem with zerg is that the upgrades for range and melee are separated... thats why is a zerg you gotta choose either u go for this style or this style.. i think combining them while taking care of balance will do good for the game... also ive noticed that vs terran there is no viable tier 2 fighting unit.. that's why terran can just mass tier 1 infantry and roach ravager becomes irrelevant in later game.. there is a hole in the zergs army, some link is missing... if you could somehow use lurkers vs terran (removing tank drops maybe?) or maybe have a new unit by replacing the swarm host then the game would me more interesting and we would see more cool stuff from players.. my thoughts..talski6 Jul 15
Jul 13 A few strong ZvP all-ins Since I offered to suggest a few all-ins for ZvP in other topic, and someone actually asked for it, here is a short list of all-ins I often use in this match-up, with replay(s) for each one. Hopefully someone will find it useful. 1. Proxy hatchery spine crawler rush (credit: Bly) maps it currently works on: Frozen Temple, Dusk Towers, Ruins of Endion This is what Bly uses quite a lot in ZvP. He builds a hatchery somewhere near protoss natural, builds 3 spines and a queen there (following it up with more queens once the first one is done), spreads creep to protoss base, destroys wall with spines and lets speedlings do the rest. The cheesiest and probably the strongest build out of ones I list here. You can win against *much* better opponent if he doesn't scout it in time. This worked in HOTS, and still works in LOTV. Build: 13 overlord shortly after starting it, send a drone to a location where you will make hatchery 17 hatchery at proxy location 18 pool 17 gas when pool and hatchery are about halfway done, send 3 drones from main to proxy stop droning when you have 16 drones on main when proxy hatchery is done - start 3 spine crawlers and a queen there @100 gas - ling speed, pull all drones off gas keep making lings (from both hatcheries), keep making queens at proxy hatchery spread creep, use spines to destroy protoss wall, flood in speedlings Locations for proxies: Frozen Temple - where your opponent would normally take third base Dusk Towers - also where your opponent would normally take third base Ruins of Endion - next to base which is initially blocked by rocks Examples: http://drop.sc/replay/3100954 - in which opponent tries to defend but fails in the end http://drop.sc/replay/3100967 - in which opponent *almost* wins with oracle counter-attack, but fails in the end. In case you scout a stargate, building a spore at home might be a good idea! http://drop.sc/replay/3100985 - which is too weird not to share. Turns out if opponent invests a lot into static defense at the natural, it might be worth making drop-overlord and just killing his main instead. Also, look up any ZvP best-of series involving Bly, chances are he did this thing at least once in a series, he's much better at this than I am. 2. 3 base roach-speedling all-in (credit: Railgan) I'll just link his guide here, it's more detailed than what I would come up with, go read it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/510773-zvp-blindcountering-tc-adepts Since currently upgraded adept pushes are pretty popular, this build is worth learning. I've started playing it relatively recently, so far I have just one replay which I think is successful enough to share: http://drop.sc/replay/3101002 - "lmao, disgusting"(c)protoss Watch Railgan's videos for more examples.Apathy5 Jul 13
Jul 12 Can't figure this out ZvT - I see some MM + a few tanks. I'm on 3 bases and run in ~20 +1/1 roaches with a few lings. Everytime I do this I lose - everytime. At this stage in the game the tanks just wipe me out and his MM do the rest. I don't know if I'm supposed to wait and make air? Vipers? I know I shouldn't have pushed but it was more of a 'ok here we go again' thing, so please ignore my frustration. Any help would be appreciated. http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/3127675Lokei4 Jul 12
Jul 12 ZvT Problems Hi, im a german high diaplayer and my worst matchup is ZvT. My problem is that i dont understand this matchup. I dont know the timings, i dont know the time i need unit comp X. In the past(Hots) i played in ZvT lbm with mass mutas. It was not the "best" way to play against T but sometime it works. With the mutas i could harrass and defend drops and with ling/bling i could defend pushs. Now in LotV my mutas die against the Libs. rly fast and i switch to ling/bling/roach/ravager/corruptor. -> he drop me down and my multitask is not good enough to defend the pushs and the drops/lib-harass. -> or he take a good tankspot and trade me down At the moment i play nearly every 2nd game a Bbust or a double drop becaus befor i do this my winrate was 27% in ZvT now it is 41%. I hate allinplay sc2 is fun for me if i play makrogames but in ZvT i dont know how. I have the same problem if i play offrace with Protoss(dia). In hots PvT was my favourite matchup with 70-80% in dia, now it is 32%. If i play T(dia) i have 60% against Zerg and that feels for me like a joke... i can play TvZ but not ZvT............. I know that the problem is not the balance so can somebody help me ? Do u have a good LotV ZvT Guide(with Vids because my englisch is not the best) or replays and u can explain these? best regards /Sir p.s. My englisch is not rly good - but i hope u can understand it with a bit good will. p.p.s. i don`t post a replay because i play every game differently i dont know what work so i test every game different things.SirF5 Jul 12
Jul 12 Taking a 4th? I normally take a 4th around 6 minutes in a standard game but i take a macro hatch after saturating 3 bases. Would i be better off taking an earlier 4th but you do sorta need a macro hatch or you usually float money without it. So thoughts?Insomniac6 Jul 12
Jul 12 Cool strats you saw from streamers What zerg streamers do you guys watch? I watch Vibe, Neuro, Catz, Crank and PiG, and Livi. Rare pokemon include: True, TLO Snute and Firecake. What are some strategies you saw from them that made an impression? Mechanically, I learned from Firecake to put all your techbuildings on one ctrl group. I like Neuro and Vibe's creepspread. Strategically, I've seen some Queen Roach timings, 2 base queen swarmhost nydus, Ultras with fungals and tranfuses, mass ling/bling + bane drops. I've been meaning to nerd out completely one of these days and write down some build orders...maybe soon.Buyo0 Jul 12
Jul 11 silly strategies what are some of the most fun and silly zerg strats you have?Buyo6 Jul 11
Jul 11 Too Much ZvZ I Hate ZvZ. I came up with a strat/build that allows me survive cheese rush and at the same time kill those who drones a lot (many Zergs are). It so happened that it's quite effective as I had more than 60% wins on ZvZ better than my ZvT and ZvP. My ZvZ games end fast either I win or not. That's how I want it... finish fast as I don't like to play ZvZ. What's annoying is like I played 10 games last night and out of 10 games, 8 were ZvZ. I won 7 out of 8 which is okay coz the game where I lose is a big map where my rush just cant work. But I still hate ZvZ. What I want is more ZvT. ZvP is okay.. better than ZvZ.BigBadZerg11 Jul 11
Jul 9 Corrosive Bile Markers i think they should move slightly slower and remain off screen for a shorter amount of time, this allows the enemy to determine where they will land like a mortar. without the symbol on the ground the instant that it is set out, if you must, create the animation as its on the way down because it makes them far too easy to dodge especially in pro league they have all day to move the units out of the waynova1 Jul 9
Jul 9 I would like some help for ZvP. I play random at a high diamond level atm. I absolutely got destroyed twice in ZvP, when i watch the replay I'm always about 70 supply ahead of the protoss. But my fights are always EXTREMELY in-efficient. I must be doing something wrong, or some unit I'm missing for ZvP. Both protoss went mostly ground(immortal adept some zealot stalker, an disruptor), and pheonix. I went roach ravager, hydra, lurker(4-7 lurkers) and a touch of corruptor. Both games. I split my units from the disruptors, and they usually only kill 4-5 units each. The lurkers are useless because pheonix just keep picking them up which un=burrows them, so should i not go lurker? I always seem to be way ahead, but then get absolutely destroyed even after 2 remaxes while toss is just on 3 base with one army.GameDog10 Jul 9
Jul 6 Thinking Critically Good read http://lifehacker.com/how-to-train-your-mind-to-think-critically-and-form-you-1516998286Buyo0 Jul 6
Jul 6 Diamond Zerg Streamer looking to improve!!! SC2 Diamond Zerg streamer! I'm new to streaming and I've began a journey to stream for at least 3 hours a day for an entire year! Join me on my journey, I'd love to have you :D. http://www.twitch.tv/impravidoNate3 Jul 6
Jul 6 proper scouting, all match ups In hots, one of the most important things i ever learned was proper scouting. and now with the timings being different and the builds themselves being different with new units and what not, i'm in need of a good scouting guide again. I mainly need to know when to send my overlord into the main to get the most out of my scout across all the match-ups. but the more details the better.Swayze12 Jul 6
Jul 6 Harass Style Zerg? Anyone else try harass style zerg? Starting off with speedling run-bys into baneling drops, into swarm hosts while using overseer contaminate, into mutas. It's a lot of gas and mult-tasking, but if you get enough damage done, I feel like you can win the game as long as you have enough queen/ling/spine to defend. I find it really fun to experiment with.Buyo0 Jul 6
Jul 6 Zerg vs Turtle Skytoss As the title implies, how to you beat turtle Skytoss as Zerg? I had a game where i got cannon rushed in my natural mineral line which i cleared up but it did put me behind. I went to harass the his natural with lings and ravagers and there were already Phoenixs, stalkers, PO and cannons. So i sit back and try to macro up and get a large roach,ravager, hydra ball. I couldnt ling runby because all bases were covered by sim-city-ed cannons. So I push out with my whole roach/hydra army and before they even got to the other side of the map they were wiped out by carrier,void ray, immortal, phoenix, stalker. This was a 3/3 army against 1/1 and all he did was A move carriers across the map. I know that everyone says that vipers are the answer but i have some problems with that: 1. everytime i have used parasitic bomb on a clump of air it has never even taken the shields of a carrier and then all the vipers die 2. vipers are quite expensive and need to take time to drain evo's and extractors for energy 3. vipers take far more micro than the units they are designed to counter, you can just a-move then AFK a clump of toss air whereas vipers and the army under then need to be carefully controlled to make sure they don't get kill by interceptors, i'm i gold league and i do not have good enough micro to do this well enough to kill the A-move armada. Any Advise would be welcome for this problem, just keep in mind my micro is not strong so i can't do anything fancy. TY, TheFatKid.TheFatKid7 Jul 6
Jul 6 zvt- The Dragon Turtle Build Hey guys going to share this build here copy paste the build from pig. i have tried this build and its really good verse aggressive terrans. This build is originally from Losira. Video on how to execute the build- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSg4-RFrGgM 17 pool 17 hatch 18 1:12-1:15 gas Straight to 3 queens 46 - evo chamber (just before saturation) → carapace 48 - roach warren (just after 2-base mineral saturation) 3:40 - 2xgas ~48 supply 4th queen @RW - 4-8 roaches for safety ~4:30 Lair ~60-75 3rd base (When you have money for it without pausing your production much. Stay single evo all game - RAVE ABOUT THIS Add 4th gas Steadily drone 3rd, even before it’s up start droning it Infestation→ Hive → Ultra cavern Vs tankivac opening adjustment After carapace starts, begin overlord speed and extra queen production Use a 3-queen overlord drop to defend the tankivac Just use some speedlings as extra support rather than roaches Go drop 8 lings in their main since you’ve got ovie speed! Infestors or bane drops? You don’t have gas for both Choose if you prefer fungal to combo with your bile, or bane drops to put pressure back on and pull your opponent’s attention home Still is played out as a Hive rush heading for ultras, but get’s there in a very different way.Ascarecrow2 Jul 6
Jul 6 Mass Cyclone How do you beat mass cyclone? I tried zerglings but he had some hellions to melt them. Any other unit just gets kited to death. I tried Infestors but the fungals didn't hit because they can see them coming. What's a good counter to this?Migrax4 Jul 6
Jul 5 Countering lurker-hydra in ZvZ I'm stuck on how to defeat my opponents army after they've gotten some lurkers. All of my ground units just get chewed up in the meat grinder and mutas die vs hydras. So what do you guys do in this situation?Ravier8 Jul 5
Jul 5 Why did I lose? (ZvT Silver) Hi, here is a recent game of mine: http://ggtracker.com/matches/6711660 I lost. I watched the replay afterwards and I'm not sure what I could have done better. I feel like I was doing well until around 8-10 minutes, but once we started engaging armies, my game just fell apart. I made hydras to counter his liberators. I don't know if that is an actual counter, but in general I make hydras against air units. I made ultras and zergs to fight his marines/marauders/thors. However, I lost every engagement. Should I have been making different units? Should I have been more aggressive earlier? Against Terran, I follow this build: http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/30001/ (although I messed up a bit by forgetting the early 4th). What about my drones? Should I have droned up my 4th? When I drone up 4-5+ bases, it feels like I don't have enough supply for an army. But in this game, it felt like I didn't have enough resources to rebuild my army after every encounter. Any help/advice is appreciated. I just got promoted to silver so I'm still pretty new.omnislash5 Jul 5
Jul 5 Terran face-roll vs Zerg To me right now it seems like the way to play Terran vs Zerg is too just mass tanks and marines and then roll your face on the keyboard till you win. All the terrans are complaining about ultras but its pretty hard to get to them when the terran can produce almost infinite tanks and marines off 2 or 3 bases then just roll across the map. Tanks kill roaches and ravergers FROM OFF THE SCREEN, how are you supposed to kill something one shots you before you can even see it, you cant use mutas either because because marines destroy mutas in no time and with very few losses. Trying to use overseers or overlords to spot the tanks and corrosive bile them doesnt work because of the aforementioned marines and they still have to walk into tank range to be able to fire. I'm at a loss to see how non-ultra Zerg can kill Terran in any stage of the game. My win rate against Terran is in the !@#$ter and i almost feel like leaving every time I queue into one to save myself the time. Any suggestion as to how to deal with this that isn't just, "kill them before they get them "or turtle till ultras" because in my experience neither of these has workedTheFatKid1 Jul 5
Jul 5 i dont think zerg needs a buff lifes not around to carry the race anymore and thats the real reason zergs struggling so much right now, dk getting reports its liberator harass but the truth is zerg players just have the losest skill of the 3 races right now. these zergbabys are dieing to bio pushes sprinkled with mines,lets not forget that the roder was nerfed so bio is weaker then it was then in hots yet zergs which have gotten buffs to most of there units are just falling over...and sure tankdrops helps bio alot but why are there so manny games where the terran doesnt even need to build them and wins with just pure bio they all literally forgot how to play vs the most common strategy used in the game and whats there exuse vs protoss?? they nerfed the immortal last patch just because zvp.. so why arnt they winning? pretty sure because darks the only good zerg player playing the game right nowPsionicSun17 Jul 5
Jul 5 mass raven counter? what is the best way to counter this increasingly popular play? (thanks Hammer -_-)i lost to it today and although i played bad in general during that game i was caught completely off guard and i had a horrible unit comp to fight against itUnownLegend51 Jul 5
Jul 5 Coming back as a Zerg... After a 2 year break from the game, I want to gain back my Zerg skills. What did I miss during this absence? I don't even have LotVTwinkleToes3 Jul 5
Jul 3 Advice for zerg rally points I have been zerg for a few months and I'm gold. I am hopelessly addicted to manually rallying every set of units I make. This means I never have to worry about overlords being where I don't want them to be, but it also means I am almost oblivious to my unit rally point if I don't manually rally them. I was wondering if some higher level zergs could shed some light on this. Is this a bad habit? Should i learn to rely on my rally point for all my hatches? The method seems to work pretty well for me, but I wonder if I am just wasting AMP and ther is an easier way to do this. Thanks in advance!BooMSelectA5 Jul 3
Jul 3 Zerg AA is broken :( I get it. the game is balanced around 1v1. Okay. But try zerg on anything else and it's broken on so many scales that it's frustrating. Why in the %^#$ would the devs make it so that zerg air counters... buildings when that's what the Ultra is for? Late game zerg air is useless. Completely useless. Usually Starcraft is pretty much the end all be all in terms of balance, but the lack of AA against a skytoss army is a head scratcher. Mins vs mins, gas vs gas, zerg loses every time. How is this balance? Because zerg shares the same cap as they do, we can't over mass them, over tech them or over... well, anything them. Guess my options for zerg is slings and GG if slings fail. Thanks guys. Nice to know that my max tech units counter ground and... only ground.Zickened6 Jul 3
Jun 30 My First Ranked Games I am just a casual player and I play 1v1 from time to time. I was a Gold Rank from Season 1 and stopped playing ranked games when Unrank games were introduced. Since then, I really don't know my rank but I know I am somewhere around Gold rank since most of my games are against Gold/Plat on Unrank games. Well, I just started playing rank 1v1 games last week. On my placement after 5 games, I was placed Silver. I felt disappointed at first. But I realized, that would be okay. I would just destroy those Silvers if I am really deserving to have Gold. It was difficult at first as I encounter cheese after cheese. But I survived. I was Silver last night, now I just got promoted to Gold... and straight to top 8 Gold despite of my losses as I have more losses than wins (10 wins / 15 losses on 25 games). I feel okay now. I am not really into higher ranks. I am just casual and I just enjoy this game for whatever difficulties I face against 1v1 players. BTW, Terran and Protoss are not OP at lower ranks.BigBadZerg3 Jun 30
Jun 30 Need Help I'm a gold league zerg and right now i'm struggling to win games. I feel like i cant do anything against terrans until ultras beacuse everything else gets made into mince meat by stimed bio, and because terran econ is !@#$ing insane even if my mutas kill tens of SCVs it doesn't matter because i already have libs on my mineral lines and stimed bio everywhere else. Banes die before they get in range (even on creep with speed), lings,roaches,hydras and killed by tanks or libs. Muta corpses rain from the sky every time the terran stims and the only thing that will stop them is ultras, which you wont get becuse the terran has done this all on two bases (because %^-* you). Toss i don't have as many problems except archon,clossi,immortal which i have no idea how the hell to kill. Would be thankful for any help of unit comps that might work as i hope to get my plat promo soon. TY, TheFatKidTheFatKid2 Jun 30
Jun 29 Asking for Strategies Hello, I'm new here and would like some strategies for playing as zerg. I know it's a very competitive game and that certain things are not up for decisions but are based on what's most advantageous. So, I used to play in WoL and then basically only watched streams for HotS. I wanted to get back into SC2 and I don't like any of the new units so I decided more or less to try strategies that are familiar from WoL. I don't like roaches and I don't like anything besides zerglings, banelings, infestors, and broodlords, if only because they were the only viable late game unit as far as I understood WoL. I'm starting to think that all games I try are against A.I. bots or some other playerbot shenanigans. I simply can't find the patience to enjoy the game at all when I have to pay more attention to the game's meta than my own life. I have a hard time believing, honestly, that anyone would decide to play this game multiplayer who hasn't experienced enough to be nearly pro. So, thus is the idea that all players under masters are A.I. or at least devs messing around to build up playerbotting for their players-currently statistics. My games seem horrible even after playing against the A.I. and trying to get better at multitasking and performing my build order more efficiently. It's like I've spent tens of hours playing the A.I. lately, probably hundreds of hours watching streams, and somehow actually playing multiplayer seems like the most tedious and annoying climb. Not a single person in my working life even knows what this game is, so how am I supposed to be expected to obsess over it to even have fun online?LobselVith4 Jun 29
Jun 29 Replay: Looking for advice with Infestors This was one of my first games ever to use infestors, I what to know if I used them well and if I made them at a right time/even if they are worth making at all or if I should've built more army. Also feel free to poke at anything else in the match that may help me in future games thanks! http://ggtracker.com/matches/6706509Biomech1 Jun 29