Community Feedback Update - March 8

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Help Protoss DPS versus general units going into the early-to-mid game and things will clear up.


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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/17086419287
Constant aggression doesn't necessarily make the most exciting games for players. Have you heard of positional chess ?

Positional mech should be available as a strategy, it makes for a more consistent play than just yoloing your knights and queen (i.e medivacs) and hoping for cheap tactics.

Don't kill mech.
Oh my god yes, please comment on the chat changes. There's so many flaws that need work to say the least. I want to be able to monitor chats in game....
as a heavy raven mech player during Hots, I can fully see where the negative sentiment of mech came from especially on the "staler" side, as a player who probably spent thousands of hours playing against my friends and on ladder playing ravenmech style.

But I can tell you this going into lotv;mech didnt have to be like this.

I know its popular to hate mech but its a good thing in my opinion to at least have another polarizing playstyle than bio+support.

Also, during beta before people figured cyclone could handle everything on its own, mobile cyclone hellion frontline e supported and escorted by slow moving tank lib did create great games where it was great to play and watch in my opinion and thats what I thought mech would transform into going into lotv.

I cant say that I dont feel disappointed and ignored by David kim response but I guess its no use right now. Disappointed but I think I will concede defeat since it came directly from david kim's mouth.
03/08/2016 03:06 PMPosted by Zephyn
I'd like to suggest that if we want to see mixed compositions of Terran mech and Terran bio, maybe consider merging ground upgrades in a similar style as Zerg?

Ground Upgrades:

    Infantry Weapons
    Vehicle Weapons
    Ground Armor


Air Upgrades:

    Air Weapons
    Air Armor


This way we could more easily mix and match all of our ground forces together.


I think this is a smart idea. It would keep the same theme as the other two races where ground army upgrades carry over, but air is separate. If you want to go air, you need different upgrades than ground.
03/08/2016 02:52 PMPosted by Raver
aggressive Mech was a lot more fun to play and watch, the games between ForGG vs. Life back in HotS testify to this.


All mech players could have chosen to play fun ForGG style, yet majority been playing turtle style. That proves that regardless of mech viability, most of Mech players still chose turtle over active play.
Anyway bio/mech play is better than pure mech or pure bio play.
Here's an idea

Cyclone
Upgrade's bonus to armored changed to bonus to massive
-HP buff

Gives the cyclone a more late game role in taking down targets like ultras, BL, and tempests without also countering things like roaches, stalkers, and immortals, allows the siege tank and marauder to fill that role. Gives Terran another option besides liberators and ghosts for late game engagements.
YESSSS !!! Let pure Mech die. This is one of the best community feedback update ever.

03/08/2016 11:18 AMPosted by Dayvie
Some of the staler, more boring games (to play and watch) have been mech only.


Couldn't agree more.
03/08/2016 02:52 PMPosted by Raver
aggressive Mech was a lot more fun to play and watch, the games between ForGG vs. Life back in HotS testify to this.


All mech players could have chosen to play fun ForGG style, yet majority been playing turtle style. That proves that regardless of mech viability, most of Mech players still chose turtle over active play.
Anyway bio/mech play better than pure mech or pure bio play.


They chose the turtle style because HotS encouraged it. With HotS mineral patches/gas geysers, strong swarm hosts, strong ravens and a lack of parasitic bomb. All of these factors contributed to it. LotV is a different animal, its environment encourages aggressive Mech far more.

Even if Terrans choose to use turtle Mech in LotV despite these factors because they find it easier, it won't be anywhere near as strong and annoying to play against and boring to watch as it was in HotS.
So still no nerf on liberators?? When facing libs, toss can only just play hide and seek with those circles because any air units will be destroyed within 3 or 4 shots due to that damn splash damage
I completely disagree. I think that David did an excellent job in his post describing how the game is not fun to play or watch when it is maxed armies fighting. This was often the case in HotS.

LotV has given a great improvement to this, mostly due to the economy change. However, it is also due to the more dynamic and micro based units that were introduced to the game. Harassment and micro are crucial in this game, and it makes it SO MUCH MORE FUN TO WATCH.

As a low level player, it isn't easy to execute the high-level harass and micro that professionals showcase, but even executing it on a small scale is so much more fun than the composition-based HotS.

Listen to what people who played Brood War say about LotV. It mimics the game much more in its playstyle. No one ever complained about the lack of strategy in BW.
hiphip horray!
Mech games, proper mech games, are very cool to watch. You forced terrans into awful turtle mech with HotS design. It's really a shame to read this from you.
I already lost any hope that LOTV will be a good game. So I am not interest in it any more. What I want a most is normal chat that can be close in game. I want old one back. It was so much better.

By the way Today I play some 2v2 in WOL and game is still epic and I like it more and more.
when you feel its necessary dont be afraid to make more core changes to starcraft PLEASE! The game is great, but lets not be complacent!! Just like pro gamers practice, designers can continually improve the game too.
03/08/2016 03:56 PMPosted by Syfadious
Mech games, proper mech games, are very cool to watch.


+1
Is LOTV still in beta?
pure mech was AWFUL to play against. AWFUL to watch. I support diverse direction!

to the poster below me, im talking about dayvies points.
03/08/2016 04:04 PMPosted by llllllllllll
pure mech was AWFUL to play against. AWFUL to watch. I support diverse direction!


where is the diversity in this statement?

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