What Happened to MMR Boundaries?

General Discussion
Master 3 now 4480 (6.54%)
Diamond 3 3400 (25.83%)

I remember when I played the cutoff for diamond was 3840 and Master 3 was more than 4840. That's a large shift downward. Anyone have any theories on why the boundaries have shifted so much?
Patch masters incoming...........good old times
LOL, this is to make Masters more ......."democratic" and full of junk-players. Masters in order to have the prestige should begin at 5200MMR and GM at 5800MMR.
At the end of the day the Masters will be 2-3% of the population and not bigger than.....Bronze.

As of now Masters begins at........4294MMR!
Probably due to the increasing player base from F2P. When I got into Diamond, the cut off was just over 3600 and now it's just 3480 in NA.

05/22/2019 04:08 PMPosted by Gooba
LOL, this is to make Masters more ......."democratic" and full of junk-players. Masters in order to have the prestige should begin at 5200MMR and GM at 5800MMR.
At the end of the day the Masters will be 2-3% of the population and not bigger than.....Bronze.

As of now Masters begins at........4294MMR!


If people want, they can take M2 and D2 at 4752 and 3827 MMR in NA seriously and discredit M3 and D3 due to having lower MMR requirements. It doesn't really matter anyways, since it's arbitrary to begin with.
05/22/2019 04:18 PMPosted by Raver
Probably due to the increasing player base from F2P. When I got into Diamond, the cut off was just over 3600 and now it's just 3480 in NA.

05/22/2019 04:08 PMPosted by Gooba
LOL, this is to make Masters more ......."democratic" and full of junk-players. Masters in order to have the prestige should begin at 5200MMR and GM at 5800MMR.
At the end of the day the Masters will be 2-3% of the population and not bigger than.....Bronze.

As of now Masters begins at........4294MMR!


If people want, they can take M2 and D2 at 4752 and 3827 MMR in NA seriously and discredit M3 and D3 due to having lower MMR requirements. It doesn't really matter anyways, since it's arbitrary to begin with.

I know that it is arbitrary. If you want that certain League to be meaningful (and elitist) denoting prestige, you have that League in the 2-5% population.
Now they want to have the Master at 20%!

It's like trying to pass a Volkswagen as the same quality and status of a Porche or Masseratti (Master) and near a Ferrari/Lamborgini (GrandMaster)......
05/22/2019 04:08 PMPosted by Gooba
LOL, this is to make Masters more ......."democratic" and full of junk-players. Masters in order to have the prestige should begin at 5200MMR and GM at 5800MMR.
At the end of the day the Masters will be 2-3% of the population and not bigger than.....Bronze.

As of now Masters begins at........4294MMR!
Wow, I have 4200mmr with zerg, I would be tempeted to get the free master, but it would feel too cheap not playing in a year, and then after some games getting that free promo.I remember another couple of seasons like this one when I decided to not try the master thing right at the beginning because I prefer the first master to be a nice achievement.
05/22/2019 04:39 PMPosted by LoliLover
05/22/2019 04:08 PMPosted by Gooba
LOL, this is to make Masters more ......."democratic" and full of junk-players. Masters in order to have the prestige should begin at 5200MMR and GM at 5800MMR.
At the end of the day the Masters will be 2-3% of the population and not bigger than.....Bronze.

As of now Masters begins at........4294MMR!
Wow, I have 4200mmr with zerg, I would be tempeted to get the free master, but it would feel too cheap not playing in a year, and then after some games getting that free promo.I remember another couple of seasons like this one when I decided to not try the master thing right at the beginning because I prefer the first master to be a nice achievement.

Precisely!
Leagues should be meaningful.

GM -200 places - 0.01%
M -2%
The rest 98%

Dia 10%
Plat 15%
Gold 20%
Silver 25%
Bronze 28%
05/22/2019 04:36 PMPosted by Gooba
05/22/2019 04:18 PMPosted by Raver
Probably due to the increasing player base from F2P. When I got into Diamond, the cut off was just over 3600 and now it's just 3480 in NA.

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If people want, they can take M2 and D2 at 4752 and 3827 MMR in NA seriously and discredit M3 and D3 due to having lower MMR requirements. It doesn't really matter anyways, since it's arbitrary to begin with.

I know that it is arbitrary. If you want that certain League to be meaningful (and elitist) denoting prestige, you have that League in the 2-5% population.
Now they want to have the Master at 20%!

It's like trying to pass a Volkswagen as the same quality and status of a Porche or Masseratti (Master) and near a Ferrari/Lamborgini (GrandMaster)......


Yeah, I get what you're saying. Personally, I think having Masters just under 5% and Diamond just under 20% is best. MMR requirements would have to be raised for both leagues slightly for that to happen.
I think M3 and better represents 6%, m2 represents 4% and the few m1 or better should represent 2% of the community.

From there we can have d1 starting at 10%, then d2 starting at 14% and d3 starting at 18%

End results

m1 = 2%
m2 = 4%
m3 = 6%
d1 = 10%
d2 = 14%
d3 = 18%
p1 = 24%
p2 = 30%
p3 = 36%
g1 = 44%
g2 = 52%
g3 = 60%
s1 = 70%
s2 = 80%
s3 = 90%
b1 = 94%
b2 = 97%
b3 = 100%
05/22/2019 05:25 PMPosted by SpeeeeeeeeeD
I think M3 and better represents 6%, m2 represents 4% and the few m1 or better should represent 2% of the community.

From there we can have d1 starting at 10%, then d2 starting at 14% and d3 starting at 18%

End results

m1 = 2%
m2 = 4%
m3 = 6%
d1 = 10%
d2 = 14%
d3 = 18%
p1 = 24%
p2 = 30%
p3 = 36%
g1 = 44%
g2 = 52%
g3 = 60%
s1 = 70%
s2 = 80%
s3 = 90%
b1 = 94%
b2 = 97%
b3 = 100%


I mostly agree, except I would increase bronze and decrease silver.
Mmr is an algorithm based on amount and skill level of players...the amount of players is changing so mmr is changing
05/22/2019 09:23 PMPosted by renegadeX
Mmr is an algorithm based on amount and skill level of players...the amount of players is changing so mmr is changing

MMR has nothing to do with the number of players in question. MMR simply is a measurement of skill compared with the players around you.
MMR boundaries are purely arbitrary and are calculated in function to the target distribution of Leagues.
First you decide the percentage points of each League and considering that MMR varies from 500 to 7000, assign each League the proper MMR.
That is equally valid for 200 000 people or for several Billions.......

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