Maru vs Hero (Both Player Off Race)

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6 - 0, Maru as Protoss, hmm a little bit OP. Discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ0T4DNR2rI
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Hell, special 2-0d stats offracing pvt when stats was "the best player in the world" and inno beat soO 4-2 or something in offrace ZvT. I know people get their feelings hurt, but the top terrans are simply better on average.

Maru v Serral in reverse race zvt gogogo
05/17/2019 07:17 AMPosted by Syphon
6 - 0, Maru as Protoss, hmm a little bit OP. Discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ0T4DNR2rI


Sure it can be argued that protoss is a bit strong now but this is not evidence. Hero is not even in the same league as Maru as an rts player period.
05/17/2019 09:03 AMPosted by Testament
05/17/2019 07:17 AMPosted by Syphon
6 - 0, Maru as Protoss, hmm a little bit OP. Discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ0T4DNR2rI


Sure it can be argued that protoss is a bit strong now but this is not evidence. Hero is not even in the same league as Maru as an rts player period.

thats right man...... maru just some noob carried by proxies,absoulute noname without them
This doesn't say much other than proving what we already know. That Maru is better than Hero and that he is an amazing player that is not carried by his race.
so ok, marus offrace is better than heros offrace. so what?
Except one game, absolute stomping LUL
herO was one of the best players in the world. In 2014 he was praised to be the next bonjwa.

Right now he is far far away from his previous form. From a strict adaptive playstyle he evolved into a timing attack protoss.

He is 1 year away from military and is not even taking sc2 serious at all. (He wants to marry his long time gf before the military service)

Ofc Maru stomped him..
05/17/2019 09:58 AMPosted by Raver
This doesn't say much other than proving what we already know. That Maru is better than Hero and that he is an amazing player that is not carried by his race.

I don't follow you. In order to say that Maru> Hero (which is true and i agree with you) they have to play a PvP.
i think maru would win it 6-0 even if he played normal tvp as terran and hero as protoss, interesting will be to see classic vs maru switching races, while you also have to remember that many players like gumiho and dark (not sure about maru and hero) like to play other races and got really high mmr with them, while some other players not
05/17/2019 01:11 PMPosted by Gooba
05/17/2019 09:58 AMPosted by Raver
This doesn't say much other than proving what we already know. That Maru is better than Hero and that he is an amazing player that is not carried by his race.

I don't follow you. In order to say that Maru> Hero (which is true and i agree with you) they have to play a PvP.

And over a large number of games:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

In probability theory, the law of large numbers (LLN) is a theorem that describes the result of performing the same experiment a large number of times. According to the law, the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed.

The LLN is important because it guarantees stable long-term results for the averages of some random events. For example, while a casino may lose money in a single spin of the roulette wheel, its earnings will tend towards a predictable percentage over a large number of spins. Any winning streak by a player will eventually be overcome by the parameters of the game. It is important to remember that the law only applies (as the name indicates) when a large number of observations is considered. There is no principle that a small number of observations will coincide with the expected value or that a streak of one value will immediately be "balanced" by the others (see the gambler's fallacy).
I also saw him won against Innovation's Terran as Protoss, but lost as Terran in GSL.
I dont care for offrace anyways.

Its just a meme.

Some players play more offrace and others play less and focus more on their main race. And im sure herO plays 0 offrace. I can imagine that the Jinair Team plays a lot offrace for fun.

Also remember that Maru is in a teamhouse with the best players.
05/17/2019 01:11 PMPosted by Gooba
05/17/2019 09:58 AMPosted by Raver
This doesn't say much other than proving what we already know. That Maru is better than Hero and that he is an amazing player that is not carried by his race.

I don't follow you. In order to say that Maru> Hero (which is true and i agree with you) they have to play a PvP.


Lol, no need. If you make a Bo7 series with any MU against Hero, Maru will likely come out ahead every time. Maru like Serral is good enough to succeed with any race.
Maru is ranked far higher than Hero. This is kind of funny, but it's not not really proof of anything. Maru would probably 6-0 (best of 11??) Hero in TVP (both playing main races as well).

I say the same thing when people brought up that Serral beat Juanito in TVZ (both off race), Serral deserves every win he's ever gotten, JUST LIKE MARU.
I agree, herO is no match to Maru. He wouldn't take a map from Maru in bo11, if they played with their main races.
Now, if he was matched against Patience instead, that would be a totally different story.
Totally. Different.
One series means very little, but let's be real. Who is betting on soO or dark's Terran vs Inno or Ty's Zerg? Or Serral's T vs Maru's Zerg? Or neeb's Terran vs gumiho's protoss? Or Special's Z vs Scarlett's T? We all know the Terran player is a big favorite as long as the matchup is relatively close, IE #5 toss vs #5 Terran or #3 Zerg vs #3 Terran.

Does this mean Terran is UP? No. It is strongest when the strongest players play it.
05/17/2019 08:36 AMPosted by tskarz
Hell, special 2-0d stats offracing pvt when stats was "the best player in the world" and inno beat soO 4-2 or something in offrace ZvT. I know people get their feelings hurt, but the top terrans are simply better on average.

Maru v Serral in reverse race zvt gogogo


Serral also smashed Special in a TvZ on stream, so what does that mean? soO maybe just plays less of his offrace than Special does, but soO definitely is the superior player in every way.
05/17/2019 09:30 AMPosted by Soma
05/17/2019 09:03 AMPosted by Testament
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Sure it can be argued that protoss is a bit strong now but this is not evidence. Hero is not even in the same league as Maru as an rts player period.

thats right man...... maru just some noob carried by proxies,absoulute noname without them

I would argue protoss proxies are better than Terran proxies. So LET THE MEME CONTINUE (please don’t)

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