Noob question

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Hello-

I am new to sc2; just bought the game a couple of weeks ago and have burned through my 50 practice league games and placement matches (0-for-5, no match lasting longer than 10 minutes) and then played my first bronze match and got lucky and won -- in a two-hour match. (Oh, the joys of bronze league).

I know there are sites where you can post your replays, but my main question is, is there a community site out there somewhere where you can link to your replays and the community will analyze your matches and give tips/pointers/criticism?

I am trying to drink up all the knowledge of this game I can, and would appreciate any nudges to any sites possible.

Thanks for reading this and thanks in advance for any responses.
youtubing a few of the more famous commentators are probably going to be a safer bet. Day9 is a pretty good medium paced shoutcaster, you'll be hardpressed to find any real assistance for low-level besides "build more drones, and be faster about it". As that is really what is lacking in bronze/silver/gold leagues.
http://www.teamliquid.net/

10 times better than the toilet this place is, just don't be a jackass because you will be banned pronto. No one's putting up with your #!!! at TL hence why it's infinitely better than here.
youtubing a few of the more famous commentators are probably going to be a safer bet. Day9 is a pretty good medium paced shoutcaster, you'll be hardpressed to find any real assistance for low-level besides "build more drones, and be faster about it". As that is really what is lacking in bronze/silver/gold leagues.

One of the guys who was kind enough to answer some questions I had while he was pounding me in a placement match. He recommended Day9 youtube, and I looked at some of his videos, but the guy talked too much for my liking. Maybe it was just that one video, but since you're the second person to recommend it, I will bite the bullet and just deal with that guy. I appreciate you answering!


http://www.teamliquid.net/

10 times better than the toilet this place is, just don't be a jackass because you will be banned pronto. No one's putting up with your #!!! at TL hence why it's infinitely better than here.



Thank you. That sounds like a place I'm looking for -- a place that is kind to noobs as long as they spell correctly and don't act like a jackass.


Keep the suggestions coming, everyone! I appreciate those who have answered.
Your still a bit too weak at the game to give direct pointers too. Usually when this type of stuff takes place it's a high gold/platinum player looking for exact errors and feedback.

Look up build orders and watch high level play, there are tons of tutorial videos and guides on youtube to get you headed in the right direction. Learn the basics of macro then work on micro. Macro...macro.....macro!!!!

If you posted your replays right now you would just get flamed and beat down. The constructive stuff would most likly tell you to watch tutorials and learn build orders.


Any tips on where to get started with micro/macro -- and what exactly the difference between the two is? I definitely know that is the weakest point of my game right now. I know it's just practice, practice, practice. Would you suggest going strictly vs. AI until I can remember all the quick keys? Thanks for responding, I really appreciate it.
Pretty solid thread right here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374939157
Also, for macro:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374767546
youtubing a few of the more famous commentators are probably going to be a safer bet. Day9 is a pretty good medium paced shoutcaster, you'll be hardpressed to find any real assistance for low-level besides "build more drones, and be faster about it". As that is really what is lacking in bronze/silver/gold leagues.

One of the guys who was kind enough to answer some questions I had while he was pounding me in a placement match. He recommended Day9 youtube, and I looked at some of his videos, but the guy talked too much for my liking. Maybe it was just that one video, but since you're the second person to recommend it, I will bite the bullet and just deal with that guy. I appreciate you answering!


http://www.teamliquid.net/

10 times better than the toilet this place is, just don't be a jackass because you will be banned pronto. No one's putting up with your #!!! at TL hence why it's infinitely better than here.



Thank you. That sounds like a place I'm looking for -- a place that is kind to noobs as long as they spell correctly and don't act like a jackass.


Keep the suggestions coming, everyone! I appreciate those who have answered.


He normally babbles on about high level paly, which you probably won't understand.

Watch this particular episode, and take it from there.

http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/
These videos are very good.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy

A really easy thing you can do is if you get steamrolled, watch that game from the other players perspective to see how they crushed you. Then use that in your next game. Rinse and repeat.

When you watch high level games, just take the general ideas of what they are doing and why, if you try to copy everything you'll just crash and burn.

And yes I am a noob as well, but this is how I've been learning.
There are no noob questions, only noob posters.
First off, let me say thank you to everyone who has responded in this thread. I avoided playing the ladder tonight in favor of playing the AI just so I can learn the quick keys and start the micro/macro process. It's a work in progress, to say the least.

I use quark xpress and photoshop every single day for my job, so I know the value of quick keys; I've just got to learn the SC2 set.

I have watched every replay I have from my practice games; the only things I really notice is in pretty much every game I've won so far, I was lucky. My opponent had me out-numbered and could have easily crushed my base after I make any early game charge. Had they pressed instead of giving me time to build up my forces, the would've steamrolled me. I can see now having the micro/macro set up, I can be replenishing my m&ms while I make the early-game push.

Pretty solid thread right here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374939157


Also, for macro:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374767546


These two threads were AWESOME. Thank you for linking them!

He normally babbles on about high level play, which you probably won't understand.

Watch this particular episode, and take it from there.

http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/


Have not watched this yet, but I will. I appreciate you giving me a starting point with him.

These videos are very good.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy

A really easy thing you can do is if you get steamrolled, watch that game from the other players perspective to see how they crushed you. Then use that in your next game. Rinse and repeat.

When you watch high level games, just take the general ideas of what they are doing and why, if you try to copy everything you'll just crash and burn.

And yes I am a noob as well, but this is how I've been learning.


Thank you very much. Those look right up my alley. I appreciate your help.

Delrob,

I think that the first thing one should get down is the macro portion of the game.

Things like always pumping out drones until your saturated, 2 drones per mineral 3 per gas. I'll usually build a bit more than 2 per mineral, something like 2.25 per mineral.

The goal is to continue to build troops/buildings and keep up with economy.

Also, do you have a specific race you want to play? I pretty much always play Toss when I 1v1. So thats where I started, learn the basic few strats that are succesful and master their build orders.

For example-Build order for standard Toss start
always pump drones until your saturated!!!!- at 9 health build a pylon (you want to time this so it finishes as your 10th drones finishes so you can continue on to #11 and keep your economy increaseing.)
-at 13 health build a gateway
-at 16 health build a assimilator for gas
then progress into whatever your going whether it be right in to a core or 2 gate. I tend to use this build order for 1v1, scouting can change that but this is where I tend to start.

Read read read, thats what I did!! Learn the basic hot keys like B-E for Build -Pylon, do this while holding shift so you can send your drone back to work after he built the pylon.

more to follow


To answer your question, I have been playing only terran. I never played the original SC, so SC2 is my starting point for the game. I played the campaign first, so terran is the only race I'm familiar with presently.

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