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Mar 18, 2014 Wrathion's Champion So, for us who have worked our way for the Legendary Cloak, we have become Wrathion's Champion...but from what i can tell its not really doing much for us.. do you think in later Xpacs it will come into play or no?Raydian13 Mar 18, 2014
Mar 18, 2014 Alliance lore vs. Horde lore Hello story forum, and good morning. I have a quick question regarding Alliance lore. Now I have been an exclusively Horde player from the time I started a few years ago and I have been wanting a fresh leveling experience so I recently decided to roll a worgen. Now my question, is Alliance lore REALLY that bad compared to Horde or are there just people on both sides of the fence who complain about favoritism or terrible lore choice for their faction? Thanks guys and gals!Daromere215 Mar 18, 2014
Mar 29, 2014 St. Patricks Day fan fiction. ( Azeroth High) heres the newest instalment of azeroth high, if you havent read the previous chapters dont worry this is still an exciting tail. so enjoy I woke up in bed wundering if it was all a dream or if it rly happened . did I rly kiss illidan last night? Then I turned too sea the giant stuffed teddy bear that I was holding with my arms and I knew that it wasn’t a dream that it rly happened me and illidan kissed. I culdnt believe it, especially since I had a boyfriend , varian! This wus almost to much to handle on top of everything else it wus also st. patricks day so I had to make sure I had a cute green outfit, being the most fashionable girl at scholomance came with a price. Luckily liek most thingz in life price wus no objection to me. I threw open my closet doors and stood there with my hand on my chin peroosing my clothes hanging on the hangers. I saw my cute green polo that i have from american eagle. its brite green with a little white bird on it. i wonder if its an eagle, it wud be a pretty crazy coincidense if it wus. I grabbed it because it wus the most perf top for st paddys day. Now i just needed some jeans to go with it. I had some new jeans but they looked to old and old jeans that still kinda looked new, then i found the perf jeans they were new jeans that looked old, they had cuts all over them to show a little extra skin. Then it wus time to accesorize . Green belt from holister , with a green bag from prada and i was looking totes adorbz. I threw on some green uggs as well for maximum cuteness. I knew school was going to be hard today but at least i was wearing expensive things, i dont do it to make the other more poorer girls jelous i do it to try and set a good example so the poor kids have someone to look up too. I went down stairs, my mom wasnt there but on the table there was a bunch of pancakes eggs and bacon with a note that said “sorry had to go to work early. but i cooked you some breakfast-mom” I grabbed the plate of food. “ugh empty carbs” i said as i threw the fattening meal into the garbage. sometimes i think my mom wants me to get fat like her. I grabbed a bottle of fiji water from the fridge and headed out to my car. As i got into my porsche to go to school i casted a spell on it to turn it green for the holiday, then i checked my iphone 5 and i got a text from illidan it said. “cant stop thinking about last night :P “ The truth wus i cudlnt stop thinking about it either, his soft lips hunting the demons of my very soul. Then as i was driving i checked the rest of my texts I got from varian, apolojizing for the fite we got in last nite. He wud be so mad if he knew that me and illidan kissed he wud proably chellenge him to a duel. I pulled into the parking lot at scholomance . There were green decorations everywhere and the dwarfs were hanging out by thier pick up trucks drinking beer out of a keg. They also had cans of some magical type of beer called Natural ice which probably came from northrend. They all had on green hats . There was a girl with them when she turned around i could see who it was It was my bff JAINA!”Isenhart60 Mar 29, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 Christie Golden - War Crimes excerpt ... Forced pregnancy was added to the list.Cladriah307 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 Hearthstone Canon? Just a bit curious with all the hype and such, is hearthstone wow canon? Like if you we walking around storm wind for example would there be kids running around dueling each other with their favorite heroes. Or would there be people in inns just playing. From a story perspective. I don't know I think it would be kinda cool bringing the two worlds together a little bit(mentioned only of course).Konix30 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 Fel Alliance. I think it'd be real neat if during the course of Warlords of Draenor, rather than the alternate Burning Legion corrupting the orcs, they instead corrupt the Alliance and have them invade Draenor. That would make a fun patch with a lot of enemy and raid potential. Imagine a demonic stronghold version of Stormwind. :DSplub68 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 While we wait for WoD... Why not think of ways to develop capital cities to make each of them more unique and attractive to players. Of course, it all starts with offering every services in every city. Here are my ideas: Darnassus I think the "Wolfheart side" of Darnassus needs to get expanded. It is mentionned that there is a huge forest, filled with Worgens and a Highborne encampement. That's what should be added. So I would expand the forest around the Worgen tree and fill theses woods with hunting Worgens and add a small Highborne encampement, deep in the forest. There would be lore books in the encampement and a few times a day, the worgen would go on a "great hunt" where an elite high level monster wanders around the forest and must be killed (by the players). I feel Darnassus would be a much more compelling city with that. Silvermoon I would open the zone between the ruins and the current city. Have it be filled with Wretched and Arcane constructs trying to take it over. A few Scourge creatures too, since it's the death scar. There would be events for the players, like rares appearing and major Blood Elves characters coming in that part of the city to have speeches and start special events. Theses are the two cities I would like updated the most, I will add other options later. Feel free to give your opinion or suggest other upadates for any city.Cobble35 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 WoD going back to human vs orc ... http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/3420634 Again, in case there were doubts how this expansion would end up. Or is a direct quote from the Creative Director not good enough? Edit: A recent tweet claims we was talking about the game, not literal orcs and humans. So lets see if they can do more than just humans.Ferliona185 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 Why am i still lagging? ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 3/16/2014, 16:43:49 Machine name: FRANKENATER-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion System Model: BK170AA-ABA HPE-210y BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/22/10 11:41:56 Ver: 5.09 Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz Memory: 8192MB RAM Available OS Memory: 8184MB RAM Page File: 8242MB used, 8123MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. 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Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5938 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: Yes Date and Size: 9/15/2009 15:08:00, 2004128 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0xF1F Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000 Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No --------------------- Sound Capture Devices --------------------- Description: Microphone (Turtle Beach PX3 (PC)) Default Sound Capture: Yes Default Voice Capture: Yes Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys Driver Version: 6.01.7601.18208 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Date and Size: 7/12/2013 06:40:58, 109824 bytes Cap Flags: 0x1 Format Flags: 0xFFFFF ------------------- DirectInput Devices ------------------- Device Name: Mouse Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/a Vendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Keyboard Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/a Vendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Gaming Mouse G600 Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A FF Driver: n/a Device Name: HID Interface Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x10F5, 0x0242 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer Lycosa Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0109 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer Lycosa Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0 Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0109 FF Driver: n/a Poll w/ Interrupt: No ----------- USB Devices ----------- + USB Root Hub | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4397 | Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub | Service: usbhub | Driver: usbhub.sys, 11/26/2013 21:41:37, 343040 bytes | Driver: usbd.sys, 11/26/2013 21:41:03, 7808 bytes ---------------- Gameport Devices ---------------- ------------ PS/2 Devices ------------ + HID Keyboard Device | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC232 | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard | Service: kbdhid | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 06:33:25, 33280 bytes | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:04, 50768 bytes | + HID Keyboard Device | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard | Service: kbdhid | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 06:33:25, 33280 bytes | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:04, 50768 bytes | + HID Keyboard Device | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0109 | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard | Service: kbdhid | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 06:33:25, 33280 bytes | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:04, 50768 bytes | + Terminal Server Keyboard Driver | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd | Upper Filters: kbdclass | Service: TermDD | Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/13/2009 19:19:57, 105472 bytes | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:04, 50768 bytes | + HID-compliant mouse | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC231 | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse | Service: mouhid | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 20:00:20, 31232 bytes | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:27, 49216 bytes | + Logitech Gaming Mouse G600 | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC24A | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_046d&pid_c24a&mi_00 | Lower Filters: LGSHidFilt | Service: mouhid | Driver: LGSHidFilt.Sys, 2/7/2012 08:12:50, 66328 bytes | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 20:00:20, 31232 bytes | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:27, 49216 bytes | Driver: LkmdfCoInst.dll, 10/24/2011 11:39:54, 1845528 bytes | + Terminal Server Mouse Driver | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou | Upper Filters: mouclass | Service: TermDD | Driver: termdd.sys, 11/20/2010 09:33:57, 63360 bytes | Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/13/2009 20:00:20, 26624 bytes | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 21:48:27, 49216 bytes ------------------------ Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives ------------------------ Drive: C: Free Space: 604.9 GB Total Space: 941.7 GB File System: NTFS Model: WDC WD10EADS-65M2B1 SCSI Disk Device Drive: D: Free Space: 1.7 GB Total Space: 11.8 GB File System: NTFS Model: WDC WD10EADS-65M2B1 SCSI Disk Device Drive: E: Model: hp BDDVDRW CH20L SCSI CdRom Device Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:19:21, 147456 bytes -------------- System Devices 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PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&9A Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 53248 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 325120 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:37, 343040 bytes Name: Atheros 802.11 a/b/g/n Dualband Wireless Network Module Device ID: PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_002A&SUBSYS_1000168C&REV_01\4&1A388CE3&0&0038 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athrx.sys, 8.00.0000.0144 (English), 6/5/2009 11:10:10, 1478144 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 20:07:21, 24576 bytes Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9607&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&38 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes Name: PCI standard ISA bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A3 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 21:48:27, 15424 bytes Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&92 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 53248 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 325120 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:37, 343040 bytes Name: VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_C0\4&2966AB86&0&30A4 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\1394ohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:44:56, 229888 bytes Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9603&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&10 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes Name: AMD AHCI Compatible RAID Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4392&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&88 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ahcix64s.sys, 3.02.1540.0014 (English), 10/6/2009 09:49:14, 230456 bytes Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_03\4&DE08897&0&0050 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9601&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&00 Driver: n/a Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A5 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:09, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 325120 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:37, 343040 bytes Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_3C\3&267A616A&0&A0 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1204&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C4 Driver: n/a Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&99 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:09, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 325120 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:37, 343040 bytes Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A4 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1004&SUBSYS_17843842&REV_A1\4&39C120B8&0&0010 Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\dbInstaller.exe, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:22, 250144 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\nvdrsdb.bin, 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 1156160 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_disp.inf_amd64_neutral_4e2e65e9a2b12a2e\NvCplSetupEng.exe, 1.00.0001.0000 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:23, 32574752 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\Nvd3d9wrap.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 324128 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 13088 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrap.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 226296 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\Nvd3d9wrapx.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 366400 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 13088 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrapx.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 265960 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\license.txt, 2/26/2013 00:32:08, 21898 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\MCU.exe, 1.01.5045.34391 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:22, 842016 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvdebugdump.exe, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 217888 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.1.pdf, 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 48843 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 326944 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvml.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 539424 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:27, 53024 bytes Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL64.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:27, 61216 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 12613408 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\NvFBC64.dll, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 707360 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\NvIFR64.dll, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 657184 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\NvIFROpenGL.dll, 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 357152 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvEncodeAPI64.dll, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 479520 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvapi64.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:22, 3069608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:22, 25257248 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:23, 11600432 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 3125024 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 3132704 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dumx.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 18208624 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinfo.pb, 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 23754 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinitx.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 168616 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvoglshim64.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 317472 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvoglv64.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 30361888 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvopencl.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 11514624 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvumdshimx.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 1436528 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvwgf2umx.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:27, 18293608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\NvFBC.dll, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 609568 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\NvIFR.dll, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 562464 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\NvIFROpenGL.dll, 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 314656 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvEncodeAPI.dll, 6.14.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 405280 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvapi.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:22, 2697248 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:23, 17560352 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 9691888 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 2747680 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 2947872 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvd3dum.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 15218504 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvinit.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 141336 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvoglshim32.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 266984 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvoglv32.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 22951200 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvopencl.dll, 8.17.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 9619872 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvumdshim.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:25, 1242400 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvwgf2um.dll, 9.18.0013.3182 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:26, 15862272 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvdispco6433182.dll, 2.00.0037.0004 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 1884448 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvdispgenco6433182.dll, 2.00.0017.0002 (English), 11/14/2013 07:55:24, 1511712 bytes Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1203&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C3 Driver: n/a Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&91 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:09, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:11, 325120 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.18328 (English), 11/26/2013 21:41:37, 343040 bytes Name: High Definition Audio Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A2 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:43:43, 122368 bytes Name: High Definition Audio Controller Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E1A&SUBSYS_17843842&REV_A1\4&39C120B8&0&0110 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:43:43, 122368 bytes Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1202&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C2 Driver: n/a Name: Standard OpenHCD 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Mar 17, 2014 Maiev for new racial leader Tyrande and Malfurion have become insufferable characters. Can we get Maiev as the new racial leader or have Tyrande and Malfurion act more like their Warcraft 3 selves? We need xenophobic night elves back. Crapping all over night elf traditions that identify them as a different culture just ... plain sucks.Garurgar83 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 17, 2014 Story Forum Community Lounge 98 Because I feel they should start well before we finish the others The last lounge: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11643774354?page=1 Link to the archive: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8087929632 Rules: 1) The thread must be called (include) "Story Forum Community Lounge" followed by its number. 2) If you created the current lounge, you can not create the next one. 3) No serious lore discussion. 4) No hating, flaming, or serious debates unless all sides wish to engage in the talk. 5) You must post these rules in the Original Post, so all can see the rules in future lounge. 6) Apparently, we can't talk about non-blizzard Video Games anymore, and are directed to the Games, Gaming and Hardware Forum. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/2721885/Seebach29 Mar 17, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 let's stop the negativity and focus on the fact that in warlords the draenei are finally going to see some love. I for one am looking forward to seeing them at the height of their culture - cities, towns, etc - since as it stands now they live in a crashed space ship and everything on Outland is just ruins with generic bad guys inhabiting it. plus we get to see the frostwolves who I like too so my horde characters aren't bored either, we get to meet thrall's dad and hopefully convince him to push thrall into the ocean - er, I mean, do shaman stuff and fight those iron horde guys. so let's stop debating about humans and orcs and realize the next expansion is gonna be draenei vs orcs - humans and stuff will be there assisting the draenei most probably but they won't be the "main" focus of the expansion.Zimaanus89 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 Your WoD Pre-Expansion Event If you could create your own pre-expansion event for WoD, what would it be? Personally, I would like to see some sort of event that can go along with the book, and show us what the factions are doing aside from the trial. Horde-side, I'd like to see the various races rebuilding Orgrimmar and giving support to the orc and troll refugees, as well as possible interaction with token Alliance forces who've stayed behind to gather up the remaining Theramore prisoners. This would be a good chance to introduce some non-orc minor troll, tauren and goblin characters as well as show the OTHER group of orcs who sided with the rebellion and wanted no part in Garrosh's regime. Additional quests could involve rounding up the villainous Kor'kron and Dragonmaw forces who may be resisting arrest. Alliance-side, I want to see Varian making good on his promises and sending support to Gilneas. The first part can involve dwarven and human armies marching from the Thandol Span and entering Arathi, where they reinforce the small Alliance holdout there (Refuge Pointe), receive a surprise visit from a squad of orcs from Hammerfall who offer their aid, and push into Stromgarde, ousting the ogres and Syndicate forces once and for all, and finally giving the old kingdom its legs back. With Stromgarde under Alliance control once again, they'll have secured the port, where they can push further into Gilnean territory. These two events and their follow-ups could be what is happening during our trip to Draenor in WoD. We could scenarios chronicling what is going on Azeroth while we're in Orcland killing orcs. It'll give some much-needed attention to the other races of the Horde and give the Alliance an update and closure on the Arathi Highlands story. Both events also have positive Horde-Alliance interaction, showing that the two factions are finally taking steps to move beyond their hatred. What would you like to happen?Madelynn37 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 Should Worgens have gone Horde? Would it have made more sense to make the Gilnean Worgens lose the ability to shift into human form forever and instead have them be saved from the Curse of the Worgen and the devestation of the Cataclysm (Throw in some Hill Ettins and Ogres moving in to invade Gilneas in the wake of the Cataclysm) by the Forsaken who grudgingly join their old allies in a new alliance of Outcasts that technically fall under the Horde banner. Forsaken of Lordaeron. Blood Elves of Quel'Thalas. Cursed Worgen of Gilneas. Then you have a new race that can keep their capital in the EK and not get shoved to the side in some tree in Darnassus. You have a strong powerbase in a unified Northern EK that is strong enough to keep the Alliance from wanting to attack it and just focus on securing their borders. And there is one less reason to go to war, because the Gilneans have their homeland and work with the Forsaken to keep theirs. Enter the Goblins who would be still enslaved by Gallywix who would seek to join the Horde with Thrall's blessing (unbeknownst to Thrall the slaves are dubbed "Highly compensated work force") and the Alliance remnants that are no longer being tricked by Twilight Saboteurs free the PC and much of the cartel and kill Gallywix. The newly freed Cartel and PC (who lost all of their assets and gold in the struggle and now resigns to the adventurers life) sail to Stormwind to set up a home in the now vacant beachfront property that was once dubbed The Park. And Renzik the Shiv uses his connections in SI:7 to help the player and the cartel get on their feet and work to rebuild Stormwind. The Goblin and Gnome rivalry sparks a technology boom as both races work to improve and outdo one another. No one has their storylines left out. No characters made to look shallow as everyone kills the slaver. No one is shoved into an obviously underdeveloped zone leaving a capital to waste. And there is one less reason for a faction war. Why was it not done this way? The only odd thing is that Genn Greymane must gnash his fangs and occasionally receive notes from an Orc. But it isn't as though he has to tolerate them what with being an ocean away.Nalithen62 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 Looking for 70 twinks to join active 70 guild Neora0 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 Story Forum Community Lounge 96 The last lounge: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/11306870977 Link to the archive: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8087929632 Rules: 1) The thread must be called "Story Forum Community Lounge" followed by its number. 2) If you created the current lounge, you can not create the next one. 3) No serious lore discussion. 4) No hating, flaming, or serious debates unless all sides wish to engage in the talk. 5) You must post these rules in the Original Post, so all can see the rules in future lounge. 6) Apparently, we can't talk about non-blizzard Video Games anymore, and are directed to the Games, Gaming and Hardware Forum. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/2721885/ Originally I was going to call it SFCL 97 in before 96, but it wouldn't fit. Also, even though it hasn't reached page 26 for the last post to be made, I now get the message that the thread has capped. I guess they can't handle Seebach getting the last post in anymore.Seebach499 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 Can Blizzard Salvage The Factions? Up until Cata, I thought Blizzard had done a decent job of making both factions appealing and of varying shades of morality. Sure, The Alliance were always "the good guys" but they had some dark actions and characters in their ranks and they didn't always do the the pure white morality thing. The Horde were the "bad guys" but they had nobility to them, they took care of their own and were capable of setting aside hatreds and grudges for the greater good. For whatever reason the writing team at Blizzard decided to take the Alliance down a Captain America road and the Horde down the mindless, conquering savages path. To be fair, many in the fantasy genre end up doing this. I feel it can be traced to Tolkien(even though it was around before him) and the wild success of his books. They were enjoyable and great, but the sides were clearly drawn and their moralities were apparent. the Fellowship were noble and pure, Sauron and his gang were unflinchingly evil, there was no in between. Since then, most in the fantasy genre have looked to his books and followed his example, good versus evil. The result has been a boring genre that does not hold my interest well. We could throw some blame at George Lucas and Star Wars success, Jedi and Sith as well for this as well. I prefer characters and factions that are morally gray, where it is tough to decide who can lay claim to the good guys title and who can't, where their morality and actions swing wildly depending on the situation. GRRM writes characters like this in a more traditional fantasy setting, The Malazan Book of the Fallen series does a great job of keeping things questionable to where you can even empathize and understand the big bad. Glen Cook's The Black Company, The Dread Empire series and the Instrumentalities of the Night series do a fantastic job of having every character capable of varying moralities. Joe Abercrombie does a bloody fantastic job of having characters and factions that are both noble and dark all at once in The First Law Trilogy, The Heroes, Red Country and Best Served Cold. I have been working the graveyard shift lately and the boredom has led me to do some binge reading of Abercrombie's books and it got me thinking. Could Blizzard's writing team take a page out of his, Cook's, Erikson's and Martin's books and write both factions as more morally gray and more interesting? Could they make it so no one could come running to the forums with " The Horde is evil, here is my list of why" or " the Alliance is boring and a Captain America clone, here is my list of why"? Could the story forums become less toxic and more constructive and discussion based because of this?(To be honest these forums while informative and have some good discussions to them, are the most toxic, full of flaming and troll bait that I have seen. Even SWTOR with its established lore and more of a good vs. evil feel to the factions had a more civilized lore forum) TLDR: The Alliance are too much the "good guy" white knights, the Horde have been taken down a bloodthirsty savages path. Can Blizzard make them interesting again by writing both factions morally gray instead of good vs. evil?Dessembrae85 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 16, 2014 Time Travel So let me get this straight, in WoD we are going back in time to stop garrosh or whatever. In Cata we went back in time to retrieve the dragon soul and also the well of eternity So my question is : WHY HAVENT WE GONE BACK IN TIME AND STOPPED ARTHUS FROM EVER KILLING HIS FATHER? OR EVEN GETTING FROSTMOURNEYacoubz5 Mar 16, 2014
Mar 15, 2014 Paragons of the Klaxxi As we know there are 9 paragons of the klaxxi, however brushing up on my Archeology I found something. It was named -remains of a paragon- does this mean there were more than 9 paragons?Ulltima21 Mar 15, 2014
Mar 15, 2014 Naaru, Gods and Old Gods I had a thought and wanted to get everyone else's opinions on the subject. Based on the events of Mists of Pandaria, we know that when an Old God is killed, completely 100% killed, shadows of them still exist. We see this in the Sha being born after the Titans killed Y'Shaarj. My thought was: what if the Naaru are to Gods what the Sha are to Old Gods (i.e. the shadow/remnants of an immortal being left behind after the being's 'death')? We know the Legion have destroyed countless worlds over the centuries. One could make the assumption that any Gods/Goddesses of these worlds were defeated as well. What if the Naaru are the remnants of a slain God who are continuing the battle they fought in life? This might explain why Velen sees similarities to the Naaru in Night Elf descriptions of Elune. It could also be a middle ground in the 'is Elune a Naaru' debate. While she is not a Naaru herself, they are very similar and Elune is arguably more powerful (being a fully incorporated Goddess). What are everyone else's thoughts?Inamel5 Mar 15, 2014
Mar 15, 2014 Since were to do time travel... Can I kill Gul'Dan? Maybe nuke him with plague?Blnkbeard12 Mar 15, 2014
Mar 15, 2014 What is this statue? http://i.imgur.com/L9KzmiC.jpg And why is it there?Lena101 Mar 15, 2014
Mar 15, 2014 repeat topic by mistake didn't realize a topic already existed. Deleting my thread. (open thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12032363331?page=1 )Dailee0 Mar 15, 2014
Mar 15, 2014 A big question about the legion's leaders. This sums it up in one phrase: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZHMBguHEc&feature=youtu.be Part joke, part real question, why CAN"T we just put Kil'jaeden's head on a giant pike?Karzeth14 Mar 15, 2014
Mar 14, 2014 Could it be....? Do we have any idication of the material used to make the Helm of Domination? Was it just something Kil'jaeden got from the Twisting Nether... or could it be a dark, cold, and powerful metal.... such as the one used to build ICC..... Can the Helm of Domination be made out of Saronite?Ethenil3 Mar 14, 2014
Mar 14, 2014 the future of Arthas i dno but i really like his story arc. what are people opinions on a movie, series about arthas from childhood to death. i think it would be kickass considering he was so badassMorgnarak10 Mar 14, 2014
Mar 14, 2014 Don't understand the horde "losses" in ToW Long time forum reader, first time poster. So I listened to the Tides of War book and it didn’t make any sense. The horde destroy pretty much all the alliance bases in the barrens and then mana bomb theramore with most of the alliance military high command in it. Morality aside, these were pretty decisive victories. Now the alliance have lost their only port on the east side of kalimdor and to the south barrens. Then, after the horde somehow have enough ships to blockade the entire continent, the alliance fleet counteract and win what’s made out to be a “significant” victory. But in what way was it a victory? I mean seriously the alliance fleet takes moderate losses, I don’t think its specified but it I’m guessing from the context it was a quarter to a third of the fleet lost. What did the horde lose? A few crap ships and summoned Kraken, summoned creatures, seems pretty disposable. The horde has all of their fleet, a pretty big one if they can blockade the continent. Their now in the best position ever. The horde could mass and crush the weakened alliance fleet and completely control the seas. The horde might have been worried about Jaina, but they could of took their time and countered her in some way. And the writer makes a big deal of the alliance taking back Northwatch, but if you think about it, so what? The assault force killed a small garrison and took the keep. And then, what? Theramore is destroyed so they don’t have a port to resupply. They are completely surrounded by horde forces who didn’t lose too much in the battle for theramore, definitely not what the alliance lost. So you have an alliance fleet that took casualties while the horde fleet was untouched, and the alliance retaking a worthless outpost that now can’t be resupplied or reinforced and surrounded by the enemy. The alliance military leadership was badly hurt and they lost thousands of soldiers while the horde lost some, but didn’t sound like much. So at the end of the book it was pretty clear the horde were in the strongest position they’ve ever been in with a huge advantage. How was that a lost? Shammybert107 Mar 14, 2014
Mar 14, 2014 Deathknights Just out of curiosity I was wondering what of Deathknights now ? Lore wise.Fatwalrus25 Mar 14, 2014
Mar 14, 2014 "What we know about Elune" compilation aka "Oh no! Not more Night Elf Stuff!" I actually meant to do this at the beginning of Cata, but got side-tracked, and only spammed about the Desolace quest with the Satyr Flesh. I guess with the 5.2 quote, that's okay? I probably missed a ton of stuff since I pulled all these from memory and searched wowhead for additional details, so please tell me anything you got. But conclusions I've drawn from these thingies - Elune does both healing and shielding, seems to favor shielding - Her sacred objects are in some way associated with water - She has power over water/tides - Has a running theme of balance between dark/light (Stages of the moon, etc), 'all things come at a cost', and sacrifice - Has the power to reverse Old God and Legion mutation/corruption - Has the ability to make new life (Wildkin) - Could see her speaking in non-Darnassian in Vanilla from the Gem of Elune, and speaks directly to the player, and directly in the quest text of "He Who would be forgiven" And, as of 5.2, has at least one developer thinking of her as not a Naaru. Unless Naaru can be spirits of moons. Please note the Encyclopedia entry and CDev question in the entries below, and forgive me as I try to figure out how my quote got borked. ...Lilendae29 Mar 14, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 updated Pirate lore? Hi, I just finished the Cape of Stranglethorn quests, and eagerly awaited researching the Gilnean-based Brashtide Raiders. Sadly there isn't much lore on them. There's only an old Wow Insider lore column with a broken link to this site from 2007(?). I would be interested in knowing about the High Seas Scenario, but I guess there's not much there lorewise. Nevertheless, did the Horde and Alliance higher privateers for that naval skirmish? Interested in your thoughts.Membata6 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Night Elf Shadow Priests Has there ever been any official lore about Night Elf Shadow Priests? I'd assume they don't follow the Light, so what do they follow?Caelisa12 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 What place has the best story behind it? I think Quel'thalas is amazing story.Merilen19 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Sub-races? Has anyone else had the idea that during character creation, we could select a sub-race? For example, Orcs=Mag'har, Tauren=Taunka, Trolls=Forest Trolls, Dwarves=Dark Iron/Wildhammer, Night Elves=Highborne, Blood Elves=High Elves, etc. All these races are already on the side of their original race (With the exception of maybe Forest Trolls and High Elves, but I can explain Helves with "Holy Sunwell sped up the recovery of some belves! And some Helves have returned to the Sunwell and Forest Trolls, well there is that base in the Hinterlands.) so there really wouldn't be too much confusion. I thought of this because with the new race updates, it would be a waste to not add something new (They better add new hairstyles) and subraces could add some interesting new lore. With the inclusion of same-model pandaren on both sides, the "Silhouttes need to be easily identified to recognize if its hostile or not" isn't an argument anymore.Orlesian36 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Create a Satisfying Event (I considered this for the Seat of Knowledge forum but I think it fits better here) Consider this a challenge for the Story Forum community: Create an event that you would find satisfying for World of Warcraft. Before you post a couple of guidelines/rules: 1. It can be for the Alliance, for the Horde, or both 2. It can not destroy/cripple/remove a faction, a capitol, or a race 3. You can kill major characters but I would advise doing so sparingly 4. You can bring back major characters that had been killed. but again I would advise doing so sparingly 5. Do not worry about game mechanics 6. Feel free to criticize, but keep it constructive and polite (and yes I am talking to you. Yes you! Don't you roll your eyes at me! I'll bring Medan into the game if you don't stop rolling your eyes at me!) 7. When all else fails, make it funnyDanseis40 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Ask CDEV? still active? any information on this? and if so how to i add a question?Gartherix11 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Has the Alliance done anything bad? It seems like all they do is defend against the Horde outside of maybe Arthas I cant think of anything. (Note im not being snarky about this im really unfamiliar with Alliance lore.)Kaquis499 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Garrosh Jr. So the fact that Zaela ran off with Garrosh to Draenor, does this pretty much confirm without actually confirming it, that Zaela is gonna have a baby Hellscream? I feel like Blizzard is going to want to keep a Hellscream around after Garrosh's death just to keep that name relevant. Maybe some kind of rivalry in the future between Thrall Jr. and Hellscream Jr.???Zavix75 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Azshara vs. Medivh who is deadliest? *Does deadliest warrior voice* The two most powerful wielders of the arcane in Azeroths history! Medivh the last guardian of Tirisfal powerful enough to destroy a fully matured blue dragon in single combat without even breaking a sweat and the one who opened the Dark portal. His wisdom and knowledge is so great he was able to foresee the invasion of the scourge and legion before it even occurred! Azshara! Once the great Queen of the empire of the Highborn with mental power so great that all who served her worshiped her as a godess. Her power so great she struck fear in the mighty pit lord Mannoroth and held back the destructive force of the well of Eternity as it was collapsing in on itself. The question we are here to answer? WHO...IS...DEADLIEST! ((alright tell us who you think would win an all out death battle one on one and why? Both combatants will be at their full strength aaaand go!))Walegar34 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Varok Saurfang, Tharbek ,both Orgrims 2nd? Honored Greetings Champions! Recently i came to realize i knew very little about our Saurfang we have seen thourghout wows eras. so i was curious about his clan orgins and so forth.I made a post about it. A noble Paladin answered my call! answering my question but creating another essentially with the concreting of Varok being a Blackrock. Egrem: Varok Saurfang information This is the information Blizzard gave us during the first round of "Ask CDev" answers: "Varok Saurfang has served with the Horde ever since he drank the blood of Mannoroth alongside Grom Hellscream. Varok led forces in the sacking of Shattrath, Stormwind, and everything between, never losing in battle until the Horde was routed at the end of the Second War. When Orgrim Doomhammer seized control of the Horde in the First War, he chose Varok Saurfang as his second-in-command after witnessing Varok's efficient and brutal tactics on the field. After the demonic bloodlust had been lifted from the orcs due to Grom Hellscream's sacrifice, Varok helped dozens of veterans come to grips with their previous atrocities, ultimately saving the lives of many great Horde soldiers. Rumor also has it that Saurfang once cleaved three men in half with one swing… of his hand." At BlizzCon 2010, Metzen said Saurfang was from the Blackrock Clan. 3:48 to 4:28: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7fVTabpyf8 Gartherix: Therbek information new information and question Now with this information i was impressed to say the least. but it left a greater question perhaps? in "The Tides of Darkness" by Aaron Rosenberg August 28 2007. Orgrim HAS a second. Tharbek! (i have the Archived version of this one.forgive me ) "Torgus was still awaiting an order,but both of them turned as another orc came running up. It was Therbek, Doomhammer's young Blackrock second,..." page 507, During Assault on Capital City "Therbek nodded, rubbing his cheek sullenly with one hand,but said nothing. He didn't have to. Doomhammer knew what his second was thinking-if he had not sent the other clans after Gul'dan in the first place,...."page 526, about to begin there tactical retreat. So here is the question. What is each one "second" of? They both exist at the same time Varok could easily be Second in charge of the Hordes military Might. Therbek could merely be the second of the clan, in a loosely similar fashion to how a Royal bloodline works. OR maybe he just has 2? why not? there are many different views im sure to this question.Personalty im curious as to the nature of which one does what. And if the CD department of blizz intends on elaborating on this in the future. Granted this has nothing to do with the storyline currently. But would be nice to figure it out.IMO being the time table is what it is. and mr Metzen kinda pulling him being a blackrock up instantly. created a bit of an case... that may have been over looked?Gartherix4 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 13, 2014 Warrior, mage or shadow priest? I'm gonna boost a new character but i can't decide between these 3 classes. All are fun for me and i know how to play them. I will be doing mainly PvE. Which one is better? Help me decide, what should i go?Leaftotem2 Mar 13, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Magic Types Part 1: Magics of the Twisting Nether First of all we must be clear that the Nether is not the Void as Kosak demonstrates: ... Now on to the three magic types of the Nether: Fel/Sacrificial Magic: ... Fel it appears is neither Arcane or Void..... It's part in the Nether is seen in Hellfire and Shadowmoon Valley. Here is more information on Sacrificial Magic: ... Fel is the smoke/pollution resulting from the destruction of Life. Why did Doomgaurds have to police Arcane to seek it when they served the Titans though? Because Arcane addiction leads one to seek Fel due to the promise it gives as a substitute of course(trade one addiction for another)! speaking of Arcane.... Arcane Magic: It's place in the Nether is seen in Nagrand(where it's in the sky) and Netherstorm(where it's everywhere and being drained by Manaforges). It is associated with math by Jaina. Exactly what it is is unknown yet's not forget that it's association with math is similar to Shadow(Light and Void combined according to the magazine)'s association with the Mind. Nether Magic: Seen in Blade's Edge Mountains in streams in the skybox and as dropped Primal Nether and Nether Vortex in BC Dungeons it is the least known Magic of the Twisting Nether.... Any ideas what it is?Yvenathilm10 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Ur, Worgen death knights and current story The current explanation is that Worgen Death Knights were servants of Arugal who escaped and were killed and raised by the Scourge. Fair enough. But the question of how exactly they were raised and why no one else but the Scourge can raise them was always obscur. However it just occured me that Ur, the mage who studied the Worgen before Arugal, was slain during the assault on Dalaran. Therefore, chances are the Scourge ressurected him in a way. Perhaps as a shade or a lich. Of course, the mindless ghoul theory is still a possiblity, but then there's nothing to do with thatand it's all wasted. So let's assumed the Scourge ressurected him as an intelligent undead. They had the reasons to do so. Ur was a powerful mage, very knowledgeable in the arts of shadows and other worlds. It was said that he never reached true power because he was a good person at heart and becoming really powerful in shadow magic when you aren't evil can be... quite hard to say the least. Anyhow, any past Dalaran mage would have known who he is and what he studied. Having him join the ranks of the Scourge would be a great opportunity. So Ur was raised as a Scourge member. Now being a creature of darkness, nothing would stop him from reaching his full potential and master his art as he could have done in life. There, you can have the reason as to why only the Scourge managed to raise Worgen and use them in undeath. Minor detail really, but still interesting. And the implications of this are much bigger than the Death Knight starting zone. Ur was never killed and never mentionned in Scourge-involved quests. This means he could very well be alive. And there are no reasons for him to be dead either. Because he is a researcher, not a fighter. It was in the Scourge's best interests to keep that guy undeath. On to Arugal now. After Ur's death, Arugal took his books and unleashed the Worgen upon Azeroth. He was later killed in Shadowfang Keep and killed again in Northrend. But some of the books he borrowed to Ur may still be in Shadowfang Keep. And since the Worgen and/or the Forsaken stormed the place in Cataclysm, they could have found them. It would be really interesting for the Forsaken to find Ur and seek his help. He could teach them to ressurect and control the Worgen, wich would give the Forsaken a big edge, taking away the Alliance's ace in Lordaeron right now. It would also be interesting for the Worgen to look after him. Firstly to make sure the Forsaken never learn his secrets and secondly to learn them themselves. Alpha Prime died without apparently writing any books or teaching anyone anything about the Worgen. But Ur did researches on them and probably knows even more than Alpha Prime himself. Finding him would be great for Worgen identity and power. I don't think Blizzard took the time to think about all of that, but I think it could be pretty cool to have a questline or a book or some comics about this search for Ur. And afterwards, he would make a great addition to either factions. Ideally the Alliance since Worgen really need more racial identity and that the Forsaken would be too powerful with him. But still, potential for both factions. Any toughts?Cobble3 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Arakkoa (Race For Horde) I would really like to see the Arakkoa join the Horde as a playable race.Orisanni33 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Goldrinn and the Alliance So, something had been bugging me for a while, and I'm still wondering how come the Worgens haven't taken a larger role within the Alliance, especially with Varian being Goldrinn/Lo'gosh personal champion. As we know, Goldrinn was the actual source of the Worgen curse, and the Night Elves were among the first carrier of said curse. Though granted, the Night Elves and Orcs probably have a better claim to the Wolf Ancient than the humans. And the Gilneans are still very much human, as evidenced by their behavior following the Night Elves' cleansing ritual. However, the fact remain, that Goldrinn is still the Worgens' patron spirit, yet they seem intent on entirely ignoring that fact. Frankly, the evil wolf cults aside, I'm surprised that more Worgens haven't shown up as honor guards to Varian or otherwise have a faction openly treating him as an avatar of Goldrinn's will. So, based upon that fact, why aren't we seeing more Worgens and Night Elves within Varian's inner circle? And for that matter, how come Goldrinn is the only ancient to have selected a champion? OK, granted, Malorne and Ursoc kinda did, but what about Agammagan or Tortolla?Mugtha37 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Sylvanas and the Forsaken Sylvanas is an enigma. Nothing about her and her Forsaken make sense to me. First, she's a banshee turned undead by Arthus. Fine. That I understand. She broke free of her control, gave the finger to the Alliance, and joined the Horde. She was as bitter as the rest of the Blood Elves. The logic all stops there. She and her banshee followers have the ability to animate the dead and they use it to create what she calls "her kind." These "Forsaken" aren't a race. They're undead humans. Afraid of being the only undead, she creates more whenever there's an opportunity to do so. It's an idiotic way of looking at her own plight. There are countless Scourge for her to control, yet for some reason, she creates her own thus adding to the already out of control population of the undead. The insanity doesn't stop there- oh no, it's only just getting started. Each and every one of the Forsaken somehow swears allegiance to her and the Horde. That's completely senseless since the Forsaken are 100% human. Free will my behind. It's completely implausible that so many of the Forsaken would shrug off their origins, swear their loyalty to the lich queen who animated them, and the Horde who hated them in life and wage war against the Alliance. Yet, this is what happens. Clearly Sylvanas is corrupting their minds and controlling them just as the Arthus had done to her. But wait... there's more. Only in the starting quests do we see a newly raised undead resist Sylvanas's control and run off, hating the foul thing she'd become and longing to return to the Alliance. No such luck for the character being played. I don't like this because there's another example of this very behavior- that's the Death Knights. The Death Knights were raised up just like Sylvanas was and when we broke free of his control, while still not remembering anything of our former lives, we went back to our homes, faced the hatred for what we'd done, and earned back the trust of our former leaders. My DK Deydrania did this. It wasn't easy, but she did it. She also went back and helped defeat and destroy Arthus- the very one who had done it to her. That's something that never happens with the Forsaken. It doesn't make any sense. She didn't wage war against the Alliance. She didn't go murdering her own people on sight. Thus, she has a very powerful hatred towards both Sylvanas for acting as the new lich queen and the Forsaken that are too weak and cowardly to resist her control and return to their home as she did. Is her hold on them so much more powerful than the hold Arthus, the true Lich King, had on his very own Death Knights? Speaking of cowardice... Sylvanas's place in the Horde is questionable. She hates the Horde, has absolutely no respect for its leaders, and is also hated by the Horde. She continues to use her plague even after being ordered never to do so, she animates her undead under her control and even threatened to do so to her own people- the blood elves. No one can stand her, no one can trust her, and she cannot stand or trust any of them yet the Horde are both too weak and too afraid to move against her and destroy her. It's not just the Horde either. King Varian all but denies her very existence. Here's this lich queen hiding under the protection of the Horde and doing the very exact thing that Arthus did! Does the King really find it a comforting thought that once his people die, they'll be raised up as undead slaves to serve the Horde? Only Putress broke free of her control and went his own way, trying to have his own army of undead. The Forsaken all claim that Putress betrayed both Sylvanas and the Horde, but as I mentioned before, this is completely untrue. No human owes their allegiance to the Horde! No human owes any allegiance to Sylvanas. Putress merely used his free will and, in his bitterness, chose to flaunt his power to gain his own level of dominance. Putress was not doing anything that Sylvanas wasn't doing. I will never play a Forsaken because no Forsaken I'd play would serve the Horde. No Forsaken I'd play would strike against the Alliance.Deydrania212 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Closure? A point that was brought up in another thread was the notion that there needs to be a balance in the faction conflict between the Alliance and the Horde. Even when concluded that this is a game and not real life the idea that war should be fair is absurd. So if this is true than perhaps there is another angle in the story that should be pursued. In my opinion the best route to take for the story is for the two factions to look for closure in the wake of their conflicts. By closure I mean be willing to move on after what has happened. And so I pose this question to the story forum community; how would the factions and the races that make them up find closure and how should that be presented in the game and/or related media?Danseis47 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Garrosh has gone intentionally chaotic evil? So I was fighting Garrosh in Siege of Orgrimmar the other week, and he said something that struck me as odd. ... Now hold up. First, Garrosh wanted to conquer the Alliance, which was good. Then, he wanted to conquer everything that wasn't an orc, which was.... bad, really. And now, he wants to CRUSH Azeroth, reducing everything to oblivion, Deathwing style? What the hell happened? I need this to explained to me.Delurk12 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 12, 2014 Bolvar: Oppressor of potential Forsaken "There must always be lich king" seems like BS in the face of every Scourge that got loose from the Helm of Domination in WC3 getting free will and joining the Forsaken. I wonder how many of the souls Bolvar is suppressing would go out of their way to continue the Burning Legion's mandate without the Helm of Domination pushing them.Threeslotbag81 Mar 12, 2014
Mar 11, 2014 The Emerald Dream Expansion Hello Everyone, This is currently my first post ever on the forums and even though I doubt it will be noticed by many I hope i will. I have been researching and designing an expansion of sorts for WoW for the past year. Even though it is only on paper I have come up with some pretty cool ideas and things that could renew WoW's old glory. My ideas include the return of many old characters, titans, naga, druids, worgen and of course that slimy, tentacle monster we call N'Zoth. The Emerald Dream, yes the thing Ysera guards with her green dragons and the druids. Yes, i know Malfurion "destroyed" the emerald nightmare. But in actuality he just pushed it back into the deep hole its hiding in. The Emerald Dream presents itself as an awesome expansion. It can include many new things along with all the awesome lore and new questing. However, my ideas would be a daunting task for Blizzard to do alone so I figured I would do some of the work. Anyway here is a small list of things I have included so far. A new 10 level cap increase. A new alternative 58-85 questing area: -To gain access to these areas players would journey through one of the 5 great trees in Azeroth. -These areas would provide new background lore to the titans, druidism, the emerald dream and the beginnings of life on Azeroth. -I Realized a 10-80 area would be very expansive and time consuming so i figured an alternative to the old BC, WotLK, and Cata leveling zones would be nice and much more manageable. -New zones would include the inner sanctum of the earth elementals, as well as a small portion of dream Azeroth. A new unique battleground involving escorting supplies through the battlefield. Among other battlegrounds. Two new mass/world pvp areas: -The Bridged Isle ( A small landmass linking what seems to be the dream copy of Vash'jir to the Rift of Aln. It is a crucial point for the invasion of N'Zoth's own fortress as well as once and for all eliminating Queen Azshara. This world pvp area will work with the small island having a large fortress built upon it. This fortress is controlled by whichever faction can charge the fort taking it over. However first they must break through the defenses on the bridge. Then continue to work through the forts defenses and then securing points to gain access to the commander. A world timer of reset could be implemented where the Nightmare(main enemy of the patch) retakes the fort. Because of the reset timer when nightmares retake the fort opposing factions would be able to conquer it from one another whenever.) -The Dwarven Vaults ( Similar to Wintersgrasp, this area is a Titan Vault that contains weapons of unimaginable power. As a result faction will fight over this area for control of the fort and access to a raid.) Dungeons: - Two new faction dungeons. Both similar in lore where the Nightmare led by either Nightmare druids or satyr attack either Darnassus or Thunderbluff (depending on if you're Horde or Alliance). - The Nightmare caverns. (See what is on the other side of the Wailing Caverns as you accompy Neralex through his purifying of this Nightmare infected land once and for all.) - Twilight Nightmare. ( The Twilight Cult has not given up hope in reviving N'Zoth. The remaining powerful members have journeyed into the dream near the location of the bastion in the Twilight Highlands in a hope to empower their Old God ruler.) Raids: - The Nightmare of Tyr. (See what has become of the missing Titan watcher. The founder of the Light, worshiped by humans and vykrul as their savior, Tyr journeyed from The Strompeaks before the corruption of Yogg Saron into the Emerald Dream. However, here he is trapped in a nightmare of his long lost enemy Galakras. This giant dragon dwarfs even Deathwing and you will have to bring Tyr's nightmare of him down.) - Nightmares Edge. (The crucial invasion point into the Rift of Aln. This raid can be accessed by control of The Bridged Isle.) - Kingdom of Blood. (No expansion is complete without those trolls returning to wreak havoc and restore their once great empire. The Grubushi once again broken have fallen hold to the corruption and whispering of the Blood God Hakkar. He has led them into the Emerald Dream to seek to revive the demigod as a way to conquer all of the dream and Azeroth alike.) - Tree of Rage. (Genn Greymane has been led astray into the Emerald Dream to combat a mysterious enemy known as the "Lords of the Emerald Flame". His loyal worgen lay in wait under siege by nightmare and your raid group alike. This corrupted leader hopes to purge the worgen curse by using the power of this great tree and the Emerald Dream.) That is all I currently want to reveal about my ideas but there are many more to go. I hope that someone has ideas to add. I would also like to know about any powerful Satyr of Naga who disappeared throughout Warcraft history as they could have a part to play. If you want to know more about my ideas or even help me out with drawings or lore I would appreciate it. Thanks, AnsemAnsem13 Mar 11, 2014
Mar 11, 2014 Gnome lore Will they're be more gnome lore in warlords of draenore?Zeedle41 Mar 11, 2014