5h Feedback: Epic Battlegrounds Greetings, You may have noticed we've been doing some updates to Alterac Valley and Isle of Conquest recently. Our goals with these changes are to both improve the gameplay experience in these battlegrounds and to also design them around a longer duration format. We feel that with the longer match length, players have more room to switch strategies in a match, change from offense to defense a few times, etc. to provide a, well, more epic experience. With that, we're looking to you to give us feedback on these changes. Here are some of the changes recently (through hotfixes, so they are very recent): Alterac Valley Increased the number of Reinforcements by 100. The NPCs health and damage will match the players level and gear, which will result in a more consistent difficulty. Isle of Conquest Increased the number of Reinforcements by 100. Increased the health of the walls significantly. Increased the damage the Siege Engine, Demolishers, Glaive Throwers and Keep Cannons deal against players. (The Seige Engine in particular will now be pretty scary!) Increased the siege damage dealt by the Siege Engine and Demolisher. (The Ram ability will deal a lot of damage in particular) The Refinery and the Quarry now generate Reinforcements more frequently. Increased the health of the "bosses". We welcome your feedback! Please focus your feedback on the gameplay in the map, in particular the pacing, balance of different mechanics etc. Thank you!Phalanx487 5h
Sep 6 PvP Disqualification Policy Update As part of our continued efforts to combat cheating and unfair play in World of Warcraft, we’ve recently made a change to our policies regarding PvP disqualifications. As of the Battle for Azeroth Pre-Patch, any player who is found to have engaged in unfair practices that result in their disqualification from end-of-season PvP rewards will also have their ability to queue for rated PvP matches immediately revoked. This restriction will continue through the remainder of the season in which they were disqualified, which includes the current “Post-Season” available until Battle for Azeroth launches. This change is intended to minimize the impact that disqualified players have on those who are playing legitimately while the PvP season continues, and is just one aspect of our ongoing commitment to upholding the competitive integrity of World of Warcraft PvP.Bornakk57 Sep 6
Oct 26, 2010 Welcome: Please Read! Welcome to the Battlegrounds forum! This forum is here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss Player vs. Player battleground combat with your fellow World of Warcraft players Community forums work best when participants treat their fellow posters with respect and courtesy, so we ask that you take the time to read through the forum Code of Conduct ( and guidelines ( before posting. Important Reminders: Search The search function at the top of the World of Warcraft community site is extremely effective and robust. Before you create a new forum topic, please be use it to search for similar topics, blog posts, or web pages that may contain the answer for which you are looking. Making a new thread on an existing subject can result in your thread being deleted or, if you continue to re-post the same content, the loss of your forum privileges for spamming. Rating The forum rating system can be used to promote positive discussion, demote unhelpful comments, and even report posts that violate the forum Code of Conduct. By hovering over a post you'll be presented with several options, including a "thumbs up" (Like) and a "thumbs down" (Dislike) icon. Clicking the "thumbs up" icon will rate the post up. If enough people like a post, it will gain a Highly Rated status and appear at the top of related search results. Highly Rated posts will also have a highlighted background. Clicking the "thumbs down" icon will expand a drop-down menu which will include "Dislike," "Trolling, "Spam" and "Report" options. "Dislike" will rate the post down. If enough people dislike a post, it will be darkened, and with a lot of dislikes it will be hidden completely. You can also quickly report a post as trolling or spam, or use the report function to fill out a more comprehensive description of a violation. Please note that you can only rate each post once. Use your power wisely to help foster a positive and helpful forum community. Have fun posting on these forums, and good luck with your adventures in Azeroth!Lylirra1 Oct 26, 2010
1m R.I.P. casual pvp player base bfa ftw.........brilliant :(Sonbtrpn5 1m
3m Merc mode destroying battlegrounds Really tired of doing battlegrounds just to be stuck with the LOW gear fresh 120 horde players just there for a fast queue.....Stop Merc mode, if you on horde play horde and if you on alliance play alliance...Sheezam21 3m
21m Steel Strongboxes Mark of Honor, Mark of Honor, Mark of Honor, gear.. oh wait it's another Mark of Honor. Do I have to pay a tax on getting no pvp gear as well, as well as getting farmed by every single horde premade out there, and losing 70% of the time? Fix you !@#$, Blizzard. This is the 30th strongbox that gave me jack %^-*ing !@#$.Spitêfire18 21m
23m Conquest points for losses in BG. As the title indicates, would it be too much to ask for to have a small reward of CP for a loss? This isn't necessarily a thread to complain about losing in BG's, which I have lost an insane amount of AV and IoC lately, but more so a request to make the 20+ minutes you spend bouncing your head off the wall to get a miniscule reward? I wouldn't even care if it were 1 or 2 points, but something … Hopefully this won't fall on deaf ears. Thanks.Zachaios8 23m
29m Addon for Capping Flag Cast Timers? Any ideas? Been searching forever. Either nameplate cast bars or when targeting the player on unit frame cast bars, for when they're capping a flag in a battleground.Khâos0 29m
34m FYI, Minor PvP Tuning on 9/24 ...Forums32 34m
34m What's your favorite BG? (Poll) Just a quick strawpoll, curious what everyone's favorite is right now and why. For me, it's WSG, but that could be the nostalgia factor since I remember being around for its launch. The size of the map seems just right and I like that there are limited places to turtle.Thalea20 34m
34m Rated BG not a fun experience/time Its not a fun experience. It seems like 90% of the time im looking for people to make the group insstead of actually playing Battlegrounds. Is there any way in the future we could just have balanced matchmaking automatically? I think it would make a lot more players interested.... no more wasting time putting groups together. ThanksBroggar15 34m
39m Ret LF RBGs Got 2K in arena during Legion, looking to push RBGs in BFA. Currently 1550. Thanks. Helfdan#11359Helfdan0 39m
54m DISC PRIESTS WTF WHY can disc priests be higher in damage than pure DPS classes? WHY can they solo someone?? No, not after 10 minutes like it should be, they can quickly solo a dps class while being at full health. I watch people have to run away from them...Really??? Everyone may as well play disc because you are basically a raid boss. Fix this F-ing BS.Alèyna61 54m
1h Heirloom trinket not working in bg Whenever I try to use Inherited Insignia of the Horde in bg it says "You can't do that right now". Why doesn't it work? 1h
1h Mercs aren’t helping The idea of filling the opposing teams faction with unmotivated people isn’t working. Give the horde back their trashiest players. I don’t want them and I would guess I’m not the only one. Either that or add a gate to mercing like “must be ilevel 340”. Then sure. We’ll take that guy even though he’s just gonna grief the whole time anyway. Seriously, I’m not even being like “make alliance win again”. I’m just saying quit handcuffing us to the trash that the horde don’t even want.Jerrel150 1h
1h Being backfilled Is anyone else getting tired of being backfilled into a BG and then losing 30 seconds later? Its like someone coming up to you when you are next in line for a ride for a roller coaster and them telling you "Hello Sir, you've been randomly selected to go to the back of the line". This may sound like a rant about being backfilled or losing, but its really about the lack of system in place to alleviate the bad feeling of trying to enjoy a game and then getting put essentially in the back of the queue. All it takes is to be given priority on your next queue as a way of saying "Sorry you got picked to instantly lose, heres a fresh BG". P.S. Is it just me or does it seem like in BfA It takes almost the entire BG to actually get backfilled people? Seems like most BGs i play that have early leavers, they dont get replaced till its almost over. But this may just be my luck of the draw.Angvalt4 1h
1h Should RatedBGs cap healers like arena? Facing 4 heals is really boring.Wacked2 1h
2h Dot Interrupts Am I the only that think DoT ticks shouldn't interrupt flag captures or cannon repairs? Sitting in IoC unable to repair cannons because every tick of a 20 sec DoT interrupts the channel seems like too much. Or not being able to capture a node after killing an enemy because their DoT still has to tick on you for its full duration. Has it always been like this?Héalicious2 2h
3h Suggestion for BG daily rewards and losses I remember from back in Vanilla you would receive reward tokens from Battlegrounds. For a win you would receive 3 tokens and a loss would give you 1. There was a repeatable quest where you could turn in 3 for some XP. I'd like to suggest making the daily BG reward function like that with either a win giving the reward or 3 losses I find it very frustrating when I queue just trying to get my daily epic BG reward only to be forced to give up empty handed after running into 5 losses in a row. At least this would eventually give us something for our efforts. This would also encourage people to stick around in a loosing BG instead of afking out given that if they tough it out a few battles they would get their conquest points. Players would still be encouraged to try as winning would be far more time efficient.Doranos17 3h
6h Shadow-Pan and brawl rewards I just think the brawl should have a diminished conquest reward in the same way random battlegrounds do to give some incentive to play them more than once a day. The brawl this week is actually really fun, but the queue time is horrendous. I like it, but I'm not waiting 40+ minutes for this after one win and this is my favorite brawl so far this season (haven't played since MoP).Vukdits12 6h
8h ISO RBGS Alright so after a bit of games on Alliance and on my Horde toon, LFG seems to be not so hot the last few weeks or so of playing for me. I am looking for any sort of Discord or community for Rated BG/PvP related group finding as well as players that would like to add eachother and play sometimes. My highest XP is around 2080ish and currently my Horde's CR is about 1700 and this char's CR is still below 1k as of this post. If interested just leave a link or Battletag/info. :)Qpidalpha0 8h
8h Aff lock pvp help Hey everyone! So I am in no way the greatest at pvp. I just enjoy it. I was wondering if anyone could possibly help me out here? I am cooooooonstantly obliterated by melee in wpvp or any bg setting. I can't even get the time to fear them before I die lol. I was wondering if any lock lovers out there had any tips or suggestions on how to survive a little better? Thanks!Crunchasaur1 8h
9h Healers impossible to solo after patch 8.0?? DId something change?? I remember before patch 8.0 you could still solo a healer in a random battleground, assuming you managed your interrupts/stuns well. If you were a competent DPS, you could solo most healers with the exception of maybe MW monk. But now in random battlegrounds (ever since prepatch 8.0) I'm seeing healers being almost like MINI-RAID BOSSES in that they take 6-7 DPS spec players tunneling them down with *max* DPS just to kill ONE healer!! What the hell is going on?!? Is this a patch 8.0 bug or is it intended?? Is it the wonky patch 8.0 stat squish/scaling? Priest is a *particularly* bad offender, now a good Holy or Disc priest literally takes a coordinated effort from at least 5 DPSers to kill. And if there is another healer nearby off-healing the priest? The number of DPSers you need to kill it rises to like 7-8. It's just ridiculous, has anyone else noticed what I'm talking about?? Healers are insanely OP in random battlegrounds right now, especially if they are good. If they are good you gonna need a literal small "team" just to kill that *one* healer, and that's no exaggeration. Even healers with average gear seem to just "shrug off" most damage like it's nothing now, they mostly just "ignore" even well-geared DPS. It's outrageous and totally out of hand. If you are one of those OP "mini raid boss" damage-sponge healers that I mentioned, you know who you are! Shame on you! /rant overGdtroll73 9h
9h two disc priests and CTF As the title implies, this is about disc priests, I've been levelling my frost mage, and I just saw this disgusting combination. Literally, the entire team came down on them, interrupts, cc, etc, they just can't be killed if they aren't entirely abandoned by their team. And because they had the flag? they literally walked all the way across the map while being attacked, all it did was slow them down, I never saw them fall below 90% health. Their team even stopped attacking for a good few seconds and laughed at us. Blizz, either nerf disc priests, or don't allow them to pick up the flag if there is more than one, it's just not fair. Also, for reference, it was in the 80-90 range, we literally threw everything and the kitchen sink at them.Vállea14 9h
9h So does gear matter in BGs? I know at one point Blizz said they'd have ilvl scale to a certain ilvl in Bgs/pvp ... is this still the case? Or does gear matter now? Do i need to up my ilvl before doing random bgs?Phosperus3 9h
11h PvP Dev explains scaling Pretty simple and what I had been saying for months. There isn't some backward weird system where being naked you scale up to your enemy item lvl. There is no odd system where Primary stats and HP don't matter and only secondaries do lol. We can finally put down the tin foil hats as Chis Kaleiki just drew a beautiful picture explaining PvP scaling. As you can see Gear most definitely matters, how it works and a picture is worth a 1,000 words. Feel free to discuss.Abombanation151 11h
11h Fix the RBG DC BUG Blizzard fix the dc bug. Please fix the dc bug. Every other rbg game someone gets dc'd and put out of game. Some games people cant even load into game. I still get double jump dc after root which has been happening since the start of legion. It is absolutely ridiculous fix it please.Shewasntrdy0 11h
11h Random Epic queue IOC 8 times in a row... random... its like why would i even want to do AV?Whitechàpel0 11h
11h Legion Season 7 rewards? Were the titles just a joke for 30ish days and removed when BFA PVP Titles rework was done? Just wondering because I got Guardian Season 7 and the title was removed shortly after.Xoon0 11h
12h 60s Thread #222 of RIP Str Gems [ WELCOME TO THE 60'S THREAD ] Please read; Exp On and Exp Off have been Merged as of the 7.0 Legion Pre-Patch BATTLE FOR AZEROTH IS IN THE HORIZON To learn more about the 8.0 Battle For Azeroth pre-patch check out: TURN OFF EXP!!!! There are "Exp eliminators" In Stormwind and Orgrimmar. Behsten is the Alliance exp eliminator, and is located in Stormwind Keep. Slahtz is the Horde exp eliminator, and is found in the Valley of Honor. Alliance: Horde: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ General Best in Slot Guildlines: Rammstein's Lightning Bolts is broken and is a pile of poop. As of patch 7.3.5, all pre-Legion zones have scaled up to a certain level. Starting Zones are 0-10 Classic Zones are 10-60 The Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King Zones are 60-80 Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria Zones are 80-90 As of the BFA pre-patch 8.0, gear procs/effects will return in BGs!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As always, stay que'd and have a nice day. P.S. Maybe we will see an AV this patch...?Geshik308 12h
12h 2100cr Boom/Resto LF Solid RBG Team 2500xp Druid LF regular team. Hater#11978Hater0 12h
12h A <MurderLicense> PvP Guild. RBG Recruitment. Guild Info: <MurderLicense> was founded by myself on August 19, 2012. With a vision of becoming known throughout the server and across realms for high performance Rated BGs. And to be recognised as a Hardcore PvP Specialised Guild. Over the past 5 years, we have achieved in uniting most of the PvP players on our server: BoreanTundra-Shadowsong. We actively train our members through arena and RBG wargames to prepare them for Rated PvP. As well as nurture the leaders of tomorrow. We see our guild as a community, as a team and as family. Moving forward and reaching newer limits as one. We are a highly structured guild with guild rules and rank progression; partly as we have to slot players in teams based on their MMR. As guild leader, I am willing to commit personal sacrifices to see my guild mates rise. I take it upon myself to care for the well-being of my guildies (I'm the Mama Bear >:3). According to we are currently the 14th RBG guild in USA at 2068cr. (2018 Feb 20) In Season 6, we were Ranked Top 3% in RBGs, achieving Guardian of the Alliance. We feel that our foundations are strong and we are now ready to expand further. Guild Schedule: RBGs. 4 times a week. Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays. At 7-10pm server time. Usually after RBG hours and on days where nothing is planned, we organise social events like Foam Sword Fights (using the [Foam Sword Rack]) and transmog runs while listening to music on our guild discord. We also raid casually once a week. But raiding to us is primarily just to have fun. We strive to keep our guild atmosphere friendly and also knowing when to be serious; such as in Rated PvP. We are looking for: Team players. A willingness to improve. PvP players. Highly self-motivated players; your spec/ class/ mmr/ cr does not matter. If you are willing to join us, please make a character on BoreanTundra-Shadowsong and whisper any of our guild mates. Our Guild Recruitment procedure is an interview in-game which usually takes about 20 minutes. After which, I will give you my B.tag and slowly integrate you into our guild. You may choose to transfer to our server at a later date.Sharonbear87 12h
13h Rated BG noob How hard is it to get a 1700 rating? I want to get into rated battlegrounds but I've never done one and the last time I tried looking for a group no-one would take me. Presumably because I had never done one before, but if that's the criteria to join a group how am I supposed to even start?Hawkflame5 13h
13h Time to cap movement with flags. DH leap and demonic trample should not work with flags.Wacked21 13h
14h seething shore Mr. Krabs.... I have an ideeaaaaaaa... If we can't block it, or remove it, then let's make Seething Shore a brawl that happens every 2 months or so. I honestly just can't stand that BG.Proserpinah3 14h
15h Arathi Warfront Does the Arathi Warfront feel like an epic battleground with the enemy faction removed to anyone else? It was dull, felt like doing Isle of Conquest with no players.Creeks20 15h
15h Just Got My Dread Gladiator's Longbow This morning my hunter just got the Dread Gladiator's Longbow after less than2 days grinding. It is not too hard to farm 500 conquests since you will turn in 2 quests after won 4 of any Bgs, which give you total 120 conquests. The yellow quest marks are automatically show on your map. One is in Dalaran where you take some weekly quests, and one at Warport in Zuldazar. Am I the first one who got the weapon? Hope so! ^^Terrora12 15h
15h So no one likes docks or hanger? It’s all WS every game. Whoever controls the WS controls the game?Druidbot20 15h
16h Classic WOW. Good little watch for anyone that was excited about "Classic WOW" when BFA was announced. 16h
17h The fact rogues can vanish whenever How is this fair? Id get it if they didnt do high damage, but thats not the case.Munard41 17h
18h Mark as AFK Abuse So this just happened to me... [23:17] 43h345g has joined the battle. [23:17] The battle begins in 1 minute! [23:17] [w345b] has joined the battle. [23:17] **has joined the instance group. [23:17] The battle begins in 30 seconds! [23:18] [4w5tegh] has joined the battle. [23:18] 4g5w4fdg has joined the instance group. [23:18] **has marked you afk, type "/afk clear" to remove this status. [23:18] Notify system has been enabled. [23:18] The battle has begun! [23:18] You are now Away: clear [23:18] Your group has been disbanded. [23:18] You have been removed from the group. [23:18] You are no longer Away. [23:18] You aren't in a party. [23:18] You are now Away: clear [23:18] You are no longer Away. [23:18] You are no longer Away. [23:21] Complaint Registered. Screenshots of chat: [Edit by Blizzard] I was marked as AFK right before the battleground started. Literal seconds before the counter hit 0 to start the fighting. I saw that the game prompted me to type "/afk clear", so I did. However, I had no time at all to input this before the game decided to boot me as the counter hit 0 and slap me with a 15 minute deserter penalty. In the time before the fighting started as time was ticking down, I had buffed myself with Blessing of Might and buffed the healer with Blessing of Healing. This is completely unfair and the AFK booting system is clearly flawed if such abuse is allowed. I had not even 2 seconds to notice the "/afk clear" prompt appear, read it, and then type it out. I believe myself to be a relatively fast typist with decent accuracy and WPM and with a relatively standard if not faster than standard reaction time. How is anyone supposed to respond to this in time to be automatically booted and penalized for something a behaviour (being AFK) that was so CLEARLY NOT occurring? How is this at all fair? This system was abused either by mistake or with malicious intent (ex. trolling, not necessarily targeting me). I promptly reported the player for AFK booting abuse, but whatever system caused me to be booted is most definitely flawed if it can be abused in this way. Please fix the system to prevent more abuse, Blizzard. This is really unfair. EDIT: I would like to highlight this: [23:18] **has marked you afk, type "/afk clear" to remove this status. [23:18] Notify system has been enabled. [23:18] The battle has begun! [23:18] You are now Away: clear [23:18] Your group has been disbanded. [23:18] You have been removed from the group. Between the time of my flagging and my unfair removal and completely unjust punishment, not even 60 seconds had passed. I am fuming! Blizzard Moderation Please don't include other player's names in the forum. You're welcome to report that player from the game.Flowo56 18h
18h Just hit Challenger Rating question? I just hit Challenger rating in RBG's i went from 1580-1616 rating... Do i have to play another game over 1600 to get 370 gear in my weekly chest now? Even though it gave me the achievement for challenger?Headshotwin3 18h
18h Shadow pan addressed, crickets on AV Not surprisedDruidbot9 18h
19h Ashran So unless i'm wrong, Ashran is like completely gone now? I'm just making this thread to see if I get some solid answers on why exactly they removed it - It would just be like deleting Wintergrasp and Tol barad zone completely, However with those 2, they are far too old and unless Blizz updated them to 120, they could be used again (which would be cool) With Ashran, it works the same way, Why did they just abandon it? They could of just updated everything in there to 120. I'm personally not saying I loved Ashran, but I had some fun times in there and ontop of that I spent enough time to get all the Achievements for it. So the title I have, Warlord of Draenor, is that like completely un-obtainable now? Like I said though all they'd have to do is update it and probably just add a whole seperate queue tab for it. It would be great for alts and even mains if they added a weekly to get a minor amount of Conquest for killing the Faction boss I know there was issues with premades and stuff, but that really shouldn't be much of a problem, Some may say "Well barely anyone would queue for it" and queues would take forever, That's still all good, as long as you could do Random BG's, Arena, etc in the mean time of waiting I just think it would be nice to have Ashran back in the queue tab, It was really fun at times. As I said, they would have to do updates and such for it, and probably even lower the player-pool to like 20 or 25 since 40 probably isn't a good idea if not many people are queing for it. I could be wrong though, I just haven't gone to Stormshield and tried to walk in to where it's located. But yea any solid answers on why exactly they just abandoned it? Thanks for readingShadowy1 19h
19h why BM hunter always top damage in bg?? hi every BG I play the top damage is BM hunter is this right ? umm they got nerf right? so why are they always so high damage i cant heal ty thxQwklmfasdkgd52 19h
19h Get that low ilvl gear on And bis azerite gear for max deeps in PvP due to this scaling mess. Here’s the link for those that haven’t caught on yet: 19h
20h Twink Cup 2018 - Official Trailer For the fourth year, the 19 twink bracket will be hosting the 19 Twink Cup, the largest battleground tournament in World of Warcraft! The tournament will take place on Saturday, September 22nd, 2018! The tournament attracts a variety of players, whether it be from the 19 twink bracket itself, to Rank 1 players and RBG teams! The current prize pool for this year’s tournament is $1,500+ (USD) and is expected to continue to grow via donations. The team who finishes in First Place will receive all of the donated prize money! The tournament displays some of the highest level of teamwork and communication in all of PvP on a grand scale, focusing on positioning, team pushes, and variety of strategies! The majority of the tournament is based on how the teams face off in Warsong Gulch. For those players that embrace capture the flag, and competitive battleground play as a whole, rejoice! Players across the entire realm of Azeroth, now is the best time to give consideration to joining such a grand scale event! Take a break from endgame, maybe PvE has been wearing you down, or you are simply interested in getting involved in the 19 twink bracket! The tournament has representation from all over the world and all corners of World of Warcraft! Last year’s games were streamed on multiple channels, with a similar intent for this year’s games! Date: September 22nd, 2018 US PST: 11 AM US EST: 2 PM Prize Pool: All of the money donated through indiegogo and any money made by leading up to the event will go towards this year's TC. Format: The event will consist of a double elimination WSG tournament. Seeding will be randomized for the fairness of the event. Teams are limited to a 13 man roster. Players that have been included in your team's roster can be subbed in between games at any point. Team Comp Rules: 2 class limit, 2 stealth limit excluding Guardian/Restoration Druids, 4 healer limit, 1 Resto Shaman limit. Tournament Rules: Posted on the official tournament thread on Prize Pool/Donations: All of the money donated will go towards the prize pool of this year's TC. Important Links/Additional Information: Official 2018 Twink Cup Thread, Brackets, Rosters, Sign Ups, Rules, Indiegogo Official Tournament Stream TheXPOFFLeague - Twitch Previous years 2016 Twink Cup Thread, Brackets, Rosters, Sign Ups 2015 Twink Cup Discussion, Planning, Indiegogo 2014 Twink Cup Brackets, Rosters, Sign Ups, Schedule, Streams 20h
20h pre 120 bgs are a complete mess Honestly, all the healers besides disc are fine. It really ruins any sort of enjoyment the team without a disc on it is havingLessthenjake2 20h
20h Super fast I am about to come back and play after been very busy. I only have time for one toon and I want to be at least productive. Easy to get into groups and what not. I have this UH DK, a enhance shaman which I started to level anyway, and a feral druid. Mostly will be doing PvP. Also dab into PvE though. So what is everyone's thoughts and experiance.Chewsdk7 20h