Sep 7 Final Legion PvP Season 2 Cutoffs Since the conclusion of Legion PvP Season 2, we've been working to remove players from the ladder who were ineligible for rewards due to disqualification. That work has now been completed, which means we're ready to begin distributing end-of-season rewards. The final rating requirements for Legion Season 2 are as follows: 3v3 Arena Fearless Gladiator (Horde): 2911 Fearless Gladiator (Alliance): 2837 Gladiator (Horde): 2631 Gladiator (Alliance): 2653 Duelist (Horde): 2184 Duelist (Alliance): 2181 Rival (Horde): 1920 Rival (Alliance): 1903 Challenger (Horde): 1627 Challenger (Alliance): 1615 Rated Battlegrounds: Hero of the Horde: 2514 Hero of the Alliance: 2432 Guardian of the Horde: 2177 Guardian of the Alliance: 2123 Defender of the Horde: 1896 Defender of the Alliance: 1861 Soldier of the Horde: 1650 Soldier of the Alliance: 1640 Congratulations to everyone receiving a reward, and good luck in Season 3!Ornyx8 Sep 7
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9m you bad. So, I have a macro for the bad players and groups I group with. I give my btag out and tell people that their bad but let people inclined to do so to prove themselves or challenge me 1v1 which I completely encourage. (admitedly ive lost a few wpvp ones, no wargames thus far tho) The reason? Because Im sick of being grouped with dumb players who are so bad at pvp and do not know how to play that even as a good player myself I cannot change the course of the game, despite playing to objectives and helping teammates with BoP and healing. So blizz stop stopping me from telling bad players their bad when clearly from the stats you see youselves are bad. they need the feedback. trust me.Proteinpwr19 9m
11m Why pvp died IMHO these are the reasons its dead now. Templates, No real useful rewards for doing it anymore. Pruning Elitism. People started demanding 2.2k and stopped recruiting and training new players to fill the spots of those that quit. Entitlement to a win. Players attitudes suck. Losing one RBG or arena match doesnt mean everyone else sucked. Cheating. nuff said Win trading, nuff said Blizz can fix the template issue but only the players can fix their attitudes and such.Peeweebowman457 11m
18m Honor Talents May i just ask who in the development team thought this was a good idea? It effectively kills low lvl pvp. Not to mention the constant grinding of battle grounds to maybe erk out a piece of gear that might or might not be good for your spec and then grinding out Prestige which i'm not sure anyone really finds fun. IT just seems like these developers came together and thought, hey let's take the most crappy ideas we've ever had and put them into the game.Nøøne31 18m
21m [A] Pwny's Premades: Every Wed @ 830 PST I'm gonna put together some 10 and 15-man premades this Wednesday! If anyone is interested, add me Pwny#1673 and reply in this thread! Requirements: - 900 ilevel - Discord - Microphone Gonna be fast honor and fun!Pwnytailz17 21m
26m Shadow Priest or Boomkin I have each ready to make my pvp main. I keep switching back and forth shadow priest is horde druid is alliance. I cant decide which. I hate alts lol. Would like to enjoy random bgs and eventually move onto arenas. but I really need to focus or ill never get skilled enough at one to do serious pvp. I'm not looking for a flavor of the month I'm looking for something that has been trusted to do well and is enjoyable. I know the question I ask is subjective but I actually have taken the time to compare the two on paper and its a tie:( so any help would be much appreciated. Thank youWetworkz19 26m
36m "Of the Horde" / "Of the Alliance" title I'm almost there... is it worth grinding out the last bit for or is the title considered lame now? Does everyone have it and just not ever display it? I never see it on anyone. Seems to me, that unless you're an old school BG'er, it would be really arduous to grind nowadays... especially considering the state of pvp.Jirktok6 36m
38m Changes to PVP Next Expansion Blizzard, a large percentage of those that pvp feel that it is broken right now. Not just broken, but the worst that it has ever been. Many of your players enjoy pvp, but many of those have stopped because of the sad state that pvp is in currently. We really want to revitalize pvp next expansion. Here are a few things that I would really like to see (I hope in November when the expansion is announced). 1. Tone down CC. There are far too many stuns etc... It is just not fun. There MUST be a system of diminishing returns that works for CC's. This is many peoples top complaint. 2. Remove some gap closers. Melee is much too powerful in pvp because melee mobility has far outstripped caster ability to kite and stay at range. If a caster cannot kite they are at a severe disadvantage. Melee just have too many tools in this area. In order to make the battle more fair to everyone, some of those gap closers/mobility options need to go. 3. Bring back unique rewards and gear for pvp. I think that most people believe that templates for pvp was a failure. Bring back pvp centric gear, but keep the power creep in check. Top giered players should not be more than 10% stronger than normal geared players. This is a fair compromise. 4. Invest some time and create some new battlegrounds and pvp areas. Ashran was a fun idea, but it was lost in translation. Make an improved version of this along with other pvp centric quests and rewards. PVP world quests are a good start as well. 5. Remove the ability to premake a group for random BG's. Instead give all pre-made groups their own queue. It will take a little longer, but it will be more fair and a lot less frustrating to the majority of players who single queue. 6. Create a PVP questline. Do not make a mandatory one, for those that do not like pvp, but an actual questline with major characters giving you pvp quests and objectives. Make us feel like we are actually a part of the war. 7. Encourage actual fighting over objective hopping. Focusing objectives is good, but not at the expense of actual pvp. A good example is Alterac Valley, where everyone just rushes past eachother to run to the other side. Create more incentives to actually fight and you will see pvp thrive. (i.e- players drop currency, honor rank gained per kill, special titles, rare mounts etc... There are so many more good ideas on these forums. Please blizzard, invest a little bit of time to make pvp great again.Silvanthra39 38m
40m Shadow Priest or Death Knight I'm not a hardcore player so I'm not wondering about the arena aspect. I was wondering how both of those perform in random battlegrounds right now and how fun they are overall. As well as their ability for solo content. I don't have either at Max level so I can't base it on my experience and I've never mained either class. Any opinions would be great.Curtens4 40m
42m Rate your class/spec. For your spec, rate it's following attributes on a scale of 1-10. Mobility Sustained Damage Burst Damage Utility / CC Burst Survivability Sustained Survivability Ease of UseUndergeared14 42m
56m Most op class to faceroll bgs What is the most op class to get in there and just faceroll destroy everybodyZamzie48 56m
1h 90-99s Thread of Boomkin meta 90-99s Twink Thread Q&A WARGAMES on SAT 9PM EST COMPLETE GUIDE: READ THE GUIDE. THANKS DR. Is the community active? Yes, a tally of active twinks that played in the last two weeks exceed 75+ members. Regular BG pops are all day. Everybody knows everybody here. Is it hard to gear? No, it takes about a weekend at level 99 to do all the legion zones. Throw a couple of timewalking/neths runs and you'll be up to speed in terms of artifact level. What class is needed? Healers. I don't like to heal! Play what you want. I see some guys in full BOE epics. Those are expensive, do I need them? Nope. Not at all. Where can I meet more 99 Twinks? Join the discord: 1h
1h Shadowsong, BT guild RBG team recruiting Recruiting for a RBG on these two realms, looking for people to transfer and be ready to play. We also have arena players but we are trying to fill a core rbg team currently. Add nooks#11648 on btag for more info!Armsqt0 1h
1h Premades in random BGs They have always been a problem but it's gotten worse and worse lately. It seems almost every day I queue up for a random BG it's premade after premade. If I wanted to go up against coordinated groups I would do rated BGs.Ashmedaie287 1h
1h Alliance are terrible lately Must be nice being horde and completely stomping alliance in every BG.Marrypoppins28 1h
2h Spriest or aflock Which is better for random bgs? Which for rated bgs? I want a casterXanu7 2h
3h Fake Holinka Interview a Year Later... Someone posted this here almost a year ago to the day: NOTHING has changed. "Templates, the solution to nothing."Ashief6 3h
4h LF Main team Hero Push been 2.4k in every season of legion on my Ret. This season I want to play my rdruid. My dispels are instant on our healers if the cc is dispellable. My votexes are clutch. I'm clone/juke god. I'm vocal af. I kill psyfiend instantly too. I just want a team that knows what they are doing. Pugs are killing me... 1850cr Been 2.1k this season 3s. Edit: I also have an rdruid on Alliance fully geared 1750cr x7 concordance as well and 2 other rets. Motavation#11443Tubad6 4h
4h healing ive said this once and ill say it again, ANY and ALL self healing NEEDS to be removed from ALL forms of pvp. its disgusting blowing someone up then getting cc'd and they heal to FULL health then nuke you, thats horse !@#$ and thats why ALL self healing NEEDS to be removed from all pvp.Ragingsun24 4h
6h New brawl You guys like it?Xanu11 6h
6h This game is dead Haha, i cant find that video i saw online about 1 guy saying that the game is dead after each expansion is released. bc> the game is dead. wrath> the game is dead. cata> the game is dead. Panda> the game is dead. Wod> wow.. the game really died. legion> the game is dead! was so funny, i wish i could post that youtube video it made my day.Moöoö5 6h
7h dont fear fail if u fear fail u can never be legend like bobosBobos13 7h
7h Are bgs really this bad? So...I haven't really pvped in years. The last time I regularly did bgs was back in Wrath. So tonight I decided to give it a shot for the first time in a long time. And my experience is: stunned, rooted, stunned, feared, stunned, dead. Pretty much that's all it is. Just cc'd from 100-0. When did every spec get a freaking stun? You spend so little time actually in control of your character. Is this fun? It's nice that they've kind of evened out gear in pvp a bit, and you don't die in a second or two (even with my horrible gear), but it's just a longer wait while you have no way to fight back. Not really much of an improvement. I'm just trying to find something to enjoy, and thought maybe casuals bgs was it, but man was I wrong. It's just an endless cc-fest. And the rumors are true...melee are gods. I was playing on hunter, mage, and ele sham. Trying to kite is quite the challenge. Anyway, hopefully next expansion they cut back on this insane cc and let players actually control their characters. I don't really care about losing, but I'd rather play in a bg than just watch it happening to me.Palpatine47 7h
7h u made BOBOS lol bobos crush u in eye and u kek bobos it made bobos lol very much tyBobos21 7h
7h Multiple Vicious Mounts before change Anyone else feel cheated with the accountwide ability on the vicious mounts that are earned by multiple chars? I like the idea but anyone else feel blizzard should give some saddles back so that they can be used on the mounts you dont have? I had the steed/cat on multiple chars before the change. I dont really want to have to grind out 100 wins in 3s or 40wins in RBGs more than I have to for the rewards. Its already rediculous enough having to deal with the way pvp is atm with fotm classes vs what people like to play... anyone else agree?Snakk2 7h
14h DPS a little mindless right now? Nearly every dps has the damage to just spam their CC's back to back in order to burst someone down. There is no timing required, just spam all of your cc at the beginning of an encounter and it works a lot of the time. Even if it doesn't work, most cc abilities are low cd (30sec - 1min). There is literally no downside to using all of your cc at the outset of every fight.Undergeared83 14h
16h Alliance consistently gets more honor in bgs I'm starting to see a trend that win or lose, the Alliance has equal or more honor at the end of the game. If they win, they will often have a lot more. If Horde win, whatever, they still are liable to have more honor. What is going on here?Jak25 16h
17h The day that PVP dies 09/12/17 RIP. Lets remember one last time what PVP will be like before tomorrow. I feel a deep sadness in my heart, because as I was discussing with Ms. Mafic as we watched Irma sail away in a drunken stupor that PVP and WoW can not be great again. This is because template systems is like a wet fart to the face and doesn't accomplish any substance that anyone takes seriously. When the entire premise of PVP system in legion was presented with templates it was stated the tuning would be independent of PVE tuning. But that lie was exposed once again because Legion is built upon a house of lies. Lying is the staple by which PVP hangs bug time has run out and so have the lies. Tomorrow the lies meet its maker. 09/12/17Mafic500 17h
19h Wtf are you doing blizzard. Bring back pvp vendors with honor points not this disenchant bull crap! You guys are killing pvp. Shame on you. nerf tanks too. Please contact me and I will bring back wow. I will make you so much money too. I have a lot of ideas for bringing back PVP.Beefangus0 19h
20h How do you merc mode? I, uh, took a break for a while and didn't really start pvping this xpac until very recently. I remember how to do it in WoD where you went out to Ashran and talked to the recruiter. I thought they got rid of it. How do you do it now? Do you still have to go to Ashran? I mean, I'm not saying I'm gonna do it... I just wanna know how.Staìvos4 20h
22h 60s Thread #220 Gesh is here! [ WELCOME TO THE 60'S THREAD ] Please read; Exp On and Exp Off have been Merged as of the 7.0 Legion Pre-Patch To learn more about the current Legion Changes this bracket has seen check out: TURN OFF YOUR EXP - WARLORDS OF DRAENOR IS NOW STARTER EDITION. There are "Exp eliminators" In Stormwind and Orgrimmar. Behsten is the Alliance exp eliminator, and is located in Stormwind Keep. Slahtz is the Horde exp eliminator, and is found in the Valley of Honor. Alliance: Horde: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ General Best in Slot Guildlines: Item Level Scaling has been removed. Your Character now has a Template that scales - in part - by average Item Level. However, there does appear to be a Template iLvl Cap based on Player Level. Maintain at least 70-75 Average iLvl - this appears to be our Template Cap at 60. *Download to see iLvl* Gems, Enchants, Set Bonuses, Procs and Non-consumable on-use items are all disabled in Instanced PvP. Stats on gear do not matter with the exception to Weapon Speed, Top End Damage or Type. For Weapon Based abilities, a slower Weapon Speed will increase your damage. Dagger: High Warlord/Grand Marshal (2.00) - PvP Vendor 1 Hand: Demonfork (3.40) - Lower Blackrock Spire 2 Hand: The Unstoppable Force (166/3.80) - Alterac Valley Vendor Ranged: Ashjre'thul, Crossbow of Smiting (145/3.40) - Blackwing Lair Wands are BiS for Mages, Priests & Warlocks. Stats will increase by approximately 6% by having a wand equipped. AS OF PATCH 7.3 WEAPON SPEEDS WILL UPDATE!!! All Daggers - 1.8 All 1 handers - 2.6 All 2 handers - 3.6 All Ranged - 3.0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Geshikk125 22h
23h Season 5, PVP rewards, Really, REALLY suck. You had plenty of time to make something up and after a huge grind to lvl 18 you really let the PVP community down with those new rewards for season 19-22. PATHETIC would be an understandment.Fenril48 23h
1d Balance Druid Regrowth I think this spell needs some serious tuning. It's a sad state of affairs when a Hunter can marginally outheal a Balance Druid. Hunter Exhilaration x 5 Healing Shell x 8 11,200,759 healing Druid Regrowth x 93 Touch of the Moon x 13 Frenzied Regen x 26 7,643,201 healingCalcifix11 1d
1d How many peoples it takes to kill a Blood DK How many people it takes to kill a Blood Death Knight? The one with the right numbers WINS!!!!! nothing.Rkoo33 1d
1d PvP PvE balance So you made pvp in battle grounds and arena normalize gear....seems like a great idea till i go out in the real world. Since the gear isn't matching this lets some non skilled pve hero be able to blast me without even having to try. This balance is terrible and makes the game absolutely horrid. I normally would look down on a carebear server but having just come back to wow... as much as i hate to say it... it makes pve servers look like the only way to go. Some guy who sucks at pvp but raids like a mad man shouldn't be able to hit 2 abilities and just completely destroy me. This needs work or Blizzard should offer free server transfers.Thofír7 1d
1d Make ashran award current level gear Since you pushed Ashran for another xpac is there is a reason it can't reward current level gear?Erosa14 1d
1d Bobos: Defender of Alterac Valley For Reference: Bobos: Defender of Alterac Valley The man, the myth, the legend. Bobos, with a record 9,232 Alterac Valley matches and an astounding 7,250 wins has probably beaten Horde Premades for years and hasn't even known about it. Why isn't he streaming on Twitch? #WhereIsBobos???Spaventoso166 1d
1d Prestige season 5 rewards Do we know what are the prestige rewards this season?Amorent82 1d
1d Looking for an RBG team oceanic times Hi all I'm looking for an rbg team either US or oceanic, I usually start playing at 8pm AEST. 1600-1700cr, if I can't find a team I'd maybe look at starting one, anyone be interested in running rbgs around this time?ßowdown0 1d
1d Prestige 18-21 Rewards To be honest it is really disappointment the rewards for prestige 18-21 for the hard work needed to achieve those ranks, i think blizzard should rethink the rewards and give players a better reward. And please dont give us the same mounts with different color again!Ojoverde10 1d
1d I have to confess... Dear Forum Diary...I know it's not PvP related.. But.. I admit I do PvE, and do ToS because I want to get whatever improvement for gear I can in ilvl rather it be for a measly 1% in base stat for every 10ilvls in instanced PvP or to make sure I can hold my own as best as I can in the !@#$show WPvP is now. But that's not what I am trying to confess... What I am trying to confess is every time I get to KJ in Tomb of Sargeras ... as soon as I cross over one of the bridges.. I stand in the middle on the edge of the platform and as soon as someone in the raid is crossing the bridge I use the Swapblaster and swap them and since they're already moving in a forward motion they immediately fall off the platform and die... Their reaction is always priceless and every time it's a "WTF... How did I die?!" The other night I did it to the same Warrior twice in a row, and this part I didn't mean to happen but I couldn't help but laugh like a complete %^-*!@ when he got kicked from the group because someone said "Someone boot this Warrior and get someone who knows how to cross the bridge." I admit I am wrong for this, so I am trying to give a heads up to anyone *wink wink* don't do it either! It's rude, immature, and childish.Hellboss3 1d
1d New player, returned after 5 years and I am floored that you can lose a capture the flag game that's completely tied. GG blizz, terrible hires, terrible leadership, terrible ideas, terrible implementation.Uluuku10 1d
1d Blizzard killed world PvP and PvP as it is. I enjoyed playing wow becouse of PvP. PvP in outland , Cata and pandaria was so good. Even in WoD duels were kind of balanced. Yet now one shot in PvP by autoattack is a normal thing. No one enjoys pvp anymore. If you want world pvp nobody in the world wants. Everyone doing casual quests and when you fight them they just waiting you to kill them and let em do their quests. Arena is broken as it was in wod , bgs are broken. PvP is dead.Iltharion84 1d
1d What do they do? What do PVEers do with their mythic +15 gear and raid gears other than stare at them? For my argument, I find it pointless that every new patch comes out and their 3 months of hard work goes down the drain and they have to start over again, they can not use their gears to do anything other than to upgrade them, for the sake of upgrading them. Used to be we get geared so we can kill noobs in PVP, do crazy 1 shots in WPVP or instance, and that was so much more fun than what we have now. Now I just see these people AFKing in Dalaran or just wandering aimlessly with their uber gear that will become useless every 3 month or so. Personally, gearing used to be a means to an end, the end being able to kill other players for me. Now that was taken away by the template, the whole purpose to gearing is so you can be do more gearing, then have them become useless by the next patch. I have not done any serious raiding or dungeons or anything, I quit wow for about 5 months and I have 925ilvl from doing just the latest world quests on Argus, and I have higher ilvl than people who raided the whole past expansion, I did LFR and got to experience the lore and dialogues and cinematics then I just go back to playing PVP or AH, and I don't find myself being much behind those serious raiders in terms of gears, what is fun doing the same world quests and dungeons over 1000 times?Globalist23 1d
1d The Imbalance of Demon Hunters I'm going to open the discussion with a brief description of what happened tonight. IT was the battle for gilneas - Horde v Alliance. We plan an attack on the mines to the north in hopes of shattering their reinforcements. We arrive in great force (About 7 people), war drums thumping, blood rushing. We find a lone Havoc demon hunter, known for their ferocity, we knew to lay low in hopes he's AFK otherwise we'd face the fury. A stubborn Feral druid attempts to satisfy his fetish for blood and rips a large gash down the hunter's back. He's Awaken. He bursts into a fit of rage, throwing a glaive which wounded multiple allies. And then... Jumping into our ranks, succumbing to his demon form. There was no hope, as our only paladin who had been blessed with the lights grace was almost instantaneously executed. The war raged on for two centuries (Two minutes) as the hunter chased down the remaining alliance heroes, crushing their skulls upon the mined rocks. Left I, the feral druid. Evacuating to the peak of Gilnean Ruins to complain in instance chat But seriously, this happened. A single Havoc DH took out 7 players, and hit 10% health 9-10 times. I don't understand how this is a possible thing that can be even remotely called "Balance".Unwitty33 1d
2d Leadership in BGs (P.S add me) Show of hands; how many people here take the initiative to lead a BG once they enter one? Raid leader or not? I've noticed as I've continued to unleash fury (haha get it) on the alliance scrum, that not a lot of people communicate in BGs. I don't try to be a jerk, but I try my best to provide structure I suppose. Upon entering I propose a plan, followed by silence from my group except for one panda that knows what they're doing or a sarcastic remark from some BE scrub, and then the rest of the BG is continued silence. A majority of the time I notice I'm one of few PvPers calling incs, checking in on flags, defending, providing support where needed, while the rest of the BoA'd out crowd runs along the roads. I kind of just blabbered on and I apologize. Back to the question! How many people here actually attempt to lead, or communicate during BGs? Do you guys join premades, play with friends, or just try to bless the rest of the group with your skillz. I'm actually generally a solo player. I've got like 3 friends, 2 of which are my cousins that no longer play, and one guy that called me "fam" in a BG. If anyone is interested in adding me for some BG shenanigans my BTAG is Zeza#1835!Torkz12 2d
2d This "increases to XXX" pvp gear I've gotten some of this recently. It might be 640, but it says it "increases to 715 in battlegrounds" or something. Does this mean that all stats increase proportionately? So, let's say I have that piece, and a 710 regular piece. I take it I should generally wear the 715 in BGs? Thanks!Shiatfaced9 2d
2d S.O.T.A. Honestly, I'm just bored at work RN and was thinking: What if they made the strand of the ancients just have 2 tanks. One for each boat. They are not controllable, they have a trajectory to the relic chamber. It works like the "i hope I don't trigger anyone" Ashran circuit race people. So if your team is wiping them on O you move faster. Maybe a few more mechanics need to be added to prevent just the initial push from determining the win, but I think that would be much more fun than wtf is going on now. The focus is put back on killing other people and less on just doing random not pvp !@#$. Also, wtf when you run out of time in SOTA and then have to platy defense just to tie them....... That just does not feel good at all.Tutanshamun11 2d
2d The day that PVP dies 09/19/17 RIP. Lets remember one last time what PVP will be like before tomorrow. I feel a deep sadness in my heart, because tomorrow ... The Qiraji Guardling and Raw Summer Bass despawn for the year. 9/19/17 2d