Death Knight

Jan 11, 2013 2H Frost Killing Machine Question. I have been curious to how long should I hold onto Killing Machine procs when I am RP capped or near RP capped (i.e. 80+ or 70+ with HoW off CD waiting to be used) and all my runes are on CD. I have experienced this problem at times and was unsure what to do. If I use Frost Strike I waste the Killing Machine, and if I wait for runes for Obliterate I am losing runic power.Krukgara2 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 Frost dps-- 2H or DW So is DW getting better now or should i stay 2H?Arclite18 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 dk relam cant we have a dk on another server than the server with the main caracterFanatisme4 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 Frost DK PvP Hey guys, I'm about to be 90 and I'm just looking for Frost DK PvP. I'm using 2H, not DW. Right now I'm pretty much opening up with Outbreak to put those diseases up on the target for the extra damage from Obliterate. So I Outbreak, then use my dmg cooldown(Forget the name :/) and spam Obliterate then use Empower Rune Weapon for more Obliterates. Stack up my RP and then use Frost Strikes, gathering up my Blood Tap ability in doing so.. I have the glyph for Icy Touch so I do use that when I need to dispell, when I don't need to dispell I use Howling Blast. My problem is that I find us Frost DKs have little survivability.. I mean yes, I sac my ghoul for 50% of my health. I do use IBF and AMS but I still find I die so easily, without a healer of course.. And I find that even if I keep Chains of Ice on my target, they seem to get away easily and I can't catch up because I'm being slowed or rooted, and no way to remove these slows or roots(As far as I know.. If I'm wrong and there is a way to remove these slows and roots without trinket please let me know). Can some of you FDK's please give me some pointers and tips about the class? I'm bored of my Hunter and would really enjoy it if I could play my Frost DK well at 90. >.< Thanks in advance!Soulgrip24 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 Quick question for 2H / DW frost? I've been looking through the threads and there has been a mixture of responses for DW or 2H Frost dps. I'm currently 487 2H Frost with 4/6 in MSV (guilds been having problems with keeping tanks around for some reason). I've tried haste and mastery reforge and I've found mastery is good for more longer fights where as haste is more suitable for the short fights that deal more towards just out right burst dps. Should I attempt to go back to DW or stick with what I have running atm? Missing my legs for my 4 piece bonus which will jump me probably 2 points (maybe more if I have the VP to upgrade twice) Any ideas / thoughts would be greatly appreciated :)ßlackheårt8 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 Death Knight Crit chance Question Does Increasing your crit chance (such as having Skinning as a profession) Increase the chance of getting a killing machine proc. Another question I have been wondering about is which is best to stack when reforging, Haste for the increased chances of getting Killing machine procs, or stacking mastery so that when it does proc it does more damage?Nolivesleft3 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 DK pet needs to be fixed Why is it when I have my pet summoned and then I mount up and then dismount my pet has to crawl out of the earth? Seriously, in pvp that 2-3 seconds it takes for your pet to come out can mean the difference between living and dying. Why can't my pet just appear next to me when I dismount just like hunters/mages/locks pets do?Necrophobia3 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 What's going on with our stone friend? I've tested this out a few times now and it seems like our Gargoyle is just not scaling with haste. The first cast was always 2 seconds, and every remaining cast was 1.8 seconds. I tried using Unholy Frenzy on myself multiple times too with the same result. I even put Unholy Frenzy on the Gargoyle itself! Same result.. Is this a bug or does the Gargoyle no longer scale with haste (and maybe other stats too) ?Abrakadavre2 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 11, 2013 2pc tier bonus or conquest hands hello i just got the 483 gauntlets for dps and ive been thinking, would it be better to use that for the 2pc bonus, (btw im frost 2h) or keep my 483 conquest hands?Seraphiim2 Jan 11, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Want to make frost PvE, race? I want a death knight when I reach level 55, I know I want a frost, and I hate orcs and trolls, so any other races that look cool/ do good in pve? ThanksZae7 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Dks need a buff to dps When mages and locks can crit for 300k and dks only crit for 200k something needs to be done.Necrophobia20 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Ok, so i am now level 85, what next?? I am on my way to 90, if you check my gear, i do not think it is half bad for my level. My question is this, I have searched and cannot really find if there is PVP gear for a level 85. I have almost the 4k max on honor points, and about 11-1200 on the other (justice)? I PVP 2-3 RBG's a night, i do some questing, some dungeons and some world PVP when i get bored with the level grind. i am not in a rush to get to 90, will probably take me another 2-3 weeks minimum, i enjoy leveling, exploring, world PVP etc. Most questing and Dungeons are faceroll for me unless i make a mistake or do not know a boss, in PVP at level 85 non-capped i get killed 7-10 times and get 5-10 killing blows, the highest i have seen my damage was 6.6 million in Alterac Valley, probably a pointless stat, but thought i would add it. Should i exchange all my honor for justice and re-cap till both are max, so when i hit 90 i have a decent head start 6500jp?? Or should i cap asap now and buy PVP items that are level appropriate, if there are any?? This is my high level toon, i have no one farming for me, everything i have i bought or quested for. not sure if i need PVP gear at this point, so i figured i would ask the guys that have been through it. thanks for your time.Auroraabeth2 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 New Army minor glyph "Summon Army of the Dead at your feet instead of in a circle around you". suggestion: I get so tired of the tiny cramped spaces in every boss encounter because 9/10 times the tanks pull before my Army finishes being summoned and I have to clip the cast just to avoid being locked out of the encounter room because I cannot summon my army where everyone is standing. I have to be in a corner outside of the lockout place because tanks count down 5-4-3-2-1 at lightning speed. Its a pain in the !@#$ when a readycheck occurs and everyone clicks Ready, I summon my ghouls in a corner, then the retarded ranged player forgets he didn't eat and the raid leader decides to wait on his buff and not my longest cooldown. If the stupid 4p DPS new tier comes out for DKs, we need to protect our precious CD more than ever because it aggros the bosses and causes a pre-pull too many times. Not to mention we lose dps time because we had to cast Army 50 yards away, tank pulls, we clip the spell to avoid being locked out, and lose dps time running back to the group. Bad design of a spell that pre-pulls with addition of a tiny cramped spaces that lock you out of the room and bosses with large aggro radius + tiny hitboxes.Banin1 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Rotation I never played a DK before, I just made my first one :] I read up on a few things about DK's but I was confused at the start of how my rotation is suppose to be like. Right now my opener is Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Icy Touch and then Death Coil once I hit 40 runic power. I feel like I might be doing something wrong. Anyone care to help me out?Pakorn4 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 New Tier bonuses For both Blood and Frost/unholy are the worst I have ever seen. Really!? This has to be a joke. A slightly longer duration on a 10 min cooldown and a spirit that comes and hits !@#$ for what is probably going to be awful damage..... Then we have blood... extra 15 RP for each bone shield stack that is taken and a cost removal and cd reduction on a talent not even half the DKs even take? Oh and the fact that the Zandalari spirit is sound like it will take the place of the ghoul. If it does it will work like Control Undead. Which means unholy dks are up !@#$ creek without a paddle, because that means Timmy cant be out and if he is, it wont summon the minion. LaWl. Blizzard really dropped the ball on this one. Its like they arent even trying anymore. Not sure if Blizzard is retarded or just trolling.Grishnok8 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Ideas for Tier 15 set bonuses I primarily play dps, and honestly, I think the 2-set is awesome. It finally gives us that necromancer feel that we've been dying for. The 4-set, on the other hand, is flat out awful. AotD does very little damage for a 10min CD, and is arguably a dps loss if used mid-fight. It's one use pre-pull, and then forget about it. An increased duration is worthless, unless they change the spell radically. If the spell is not changed, then here's my suggestion for a new 4-set bonus: (4) set: Each time your target is hit with the shadow damage portion of Soul Reaper, you drain a portion of the target's soul, increasing your haste by 5%, lasting 15 sec. Stacks up to 5 times. What would you guys think about this being the 4-piece bonus. Also, what would be your suggestions for a new 4-piece set bonus?Karaahl0 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Runic Corruption Bugged? Did anyone else notice that haste is impacting the length of Runic Corruption? I put on +21 haste at level 74, and the length of the buff goes from 3sec to 2.97sec. Is this documented anywhere?Blackbirde4 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Question Regarding Blood DK Gear Recently, I have just obtained Revered reputation with Golden Lotus. Currently, I have the 4 piece set bonus, all from LFR. I was wondering if it is worth it to replace my Chest and Shoulders with Cuirass of the Twin Monoliths and Shoulders of Autumnlight, which would raise my ilvl stats, but reduce me to only 2 piece set bonus? This is for progression tanking. Thanks in advance.Aldarius3 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 New race models = time for scourge tattoo? As the title says, should blizz use the release of the new player models in the future to finally give us Death Knights our much desired scourge tattoos?Blaumeux9 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Lichborne Macro w/ deathcoil So I am using /cast !Lichborne; /cast [@Wighte] Death Coil and it works... but I dont want to break fear and waste 40 rp. is there any other macro that lets me cast DC on myself after I cast lichborne instead of both at the same time at the first activation? I've tried /castsequence but i might not be doing it rightWighte4 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Need a bit of help with Unholy. So for patch 5.1 I've been playing frost for pvp, but I recently switched back to Unholy and I've been having a ton of fun. That being said, I've noticed that I'm doing considerably less damage in arena. I know that when I set up my Necrotics right and when I get everything rolling that we can land a kill on someone, but I'm still doing waaay less damage than I was in frost. I was just wondering if Unholy just does less damage by nature or if I just suck lol.Heartnsoul5 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Frost or Unholy for RBGs? I decided I would rejoin the Ebon Blade's ranks and am curious a to which is the better spec overall for RBGs and why?Dkgaluciann10 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Unholy or Frost for an Orc Dk? Soo, im planning on getn this guy capped to 90. I play frost, but thinking of going unholy for the.racial pet bonus. I do not know entirly the difference between the two specs so I jeed an expert. What is the difference between the two specs? Pros? Cons? Which is better in terms of PvP?Naakagg2 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 my view on ptr changes death siphon heals for nothing even at 150%. this game in pvp is about burst damage so you need two things to counter burst 1.mitigation and 2.burst healing. we have deathpact and and inside of a global that is the best pvp heal you can get conversion is just really bad overall even at 5rpps. at the current rate we gain rp its just not viable. dont get me started on icebound. 3min cd on barkskin type mitigation honestly id be fine losing the stun immunity if it served for at least 40% it even costs runic power to use which is just a slap in the face. ive been messing around with a bunch of different classes lately and i can say with absolute certainty dks are set up to fail from the getgo. ams 5sec down from 7 seconds. ibt cost rp. necro on a death rune. loss of desecration. what exactly did dks gain from mop? even the talents are absolute garbage every other class got more utility more cc more abilitys we got reworked talents and the sad part is, i along with most other dks took the same talents we had in cata because all the new ones where garbage! honestly the only new talent i like is desecrated ground things like rolling blood should be a glyph and glyphs like ams presence swap should be baseline. so many things wrong with the class as a whole. i love my dk but i want to see real change not these ''QOL'' changes.Apocalypsè4 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 5.2 Conversion Has anyone played around with the new version of 5.2 Conversion? Does the change to 5/5 make it viable or....? Edit: I meant mostly for blood tank pve, such as when you have known damage coming, rather than say a high spike.Twicecursed5 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 Gimping myself by choosing tauren? Am I gimping myself a lot of I decide to roll a Tauren DK? I'm looking at arena ladders and all the DKs are either Human or Orc, will I still be able to PvP competitively as a tauren? Is the stun a useful skill in a DKs toolbox?Mogukai15 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 10, 2013 About Blood Strike As a disclaimer, I'm bad at things. But there's nobody around to stop me, so here is my reasoning for why Blood Strike will not be on my binds. The idea here is to settle the question, so that people can refer to this the next time someone wonders about this move. It appears that at 90, Blood Strike is effectively useless. It costs one blood rune, which makes me want to compare it to Blood Boil and Pestilence. On my DK, Blood Strike is not available in any spec except Unholy, despite it not being listed in the spellbook as a spec exclusive move. As Unholy, blood runes are earmarked to become death runes via Festering Strike. But if you happen to have used Death Strike in the last ~10 seconds, your frost runes may be simmering on cooldown. In this case you could use a blood strike to get your blood runes converting to death runes. However, Blood Strike does less single target damage than Blood Boil, unless perhaps you had a hilarious number of enemies in range, and it does not have the utility of spreading diseases that pestilence does. The only thing I can think of that Blood Strike has that Blood Boil and Pestilence do not is that it is single-target. SO. To reiterate, it is conceivable that if: You were in Unholy spec You need your blood runes to be death runes/You want to hit something for 0.02% of its health/You really want to press a button right now You are unable to cast Festering Strike You are within 10 yards of a lot of adds You really do not want to damage those enemies You really do not want to spread diseases to them eitherBlood Strike would be the move to make. In conclusion, Blood Strike is a kind of appendix/navel for (unholy) DKs. Correct me where I'm wrong.Anokh12 Jan 10, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 Death Knight basics? I fooled around briefly with a DK upon reaching lvl 55, but wasn't quite sure about the spell rotation, so went back to my main - because I want to get to 60 soon and get my first flying mount. But I will soon hit 60 on my main, and plan to go play with DK some more, but would like some insight in how DK's work. I barely got started with mine (which I deleted). I had selected Frost DK. I noticed that the spells all seemed instant cast. Some were apparently using runes, others using rune energy. I thought the runes were initially uncharged (I though the graphic would be very bright if they were charged), but there seems to be no rune energy at first. I assume you are switch back and forth between spells use runes, and spells that use rune energy. Spells using runes generate run energy I assume. A rune regenerates every 10 seconds. What I was wondering if there turns out to be a rough ratio of rune-using spells to rune-energy-using spells that works when playing? I know that low lelvel Rogues for example do a bunch of sinister strikes to generate combo points, and then do eviserate. I just don't got a feel yet for the order in which spells will be done with DK. Like, when a fight starts, will I doing rune-using spells? And if I have been out of combat for awhile, would the runes be typically fully charged? Any comments appreciated.Buffydor2 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 does desecrated ground prevent MC on imp viz? currently progressing on H imp viz. MCs happened to always kill 1-2 people every time (usually some1 who just got broke out take a heavy hit from a MCed person). I only had our last attempt of the night to test if this ability worked. It did not work when I used it, but I used it ~2 seconds after the MC went out, was thinking if used before the MC goes out that it could break the MCs. So just wondering if some1 who has tested this ability further than I have could say if the ability work on me and the raid (tooltip says it only effects the DK, not sure it would be worth the talent over an aoe grip/stun) and if it works, how to properly use it.Mericansauce5 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 Best Glyphs for Unholy DK in MoP (PVE) I was just wondering, since I'm going to be making a DK soon, what are the best glyphs for Unholy? I've read up on Noxxic and wowpopluar and they're saying different things. I need advice.Zombette4 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 Tips and Tricks for Raiding Death Knights This forum is to list some interesting encounter mechanics that allow for a sizable dps increase. So far, there are two that I've found. Gara'jal the Spiritbinder: I've found that Glyph of Dark Succor procs on the adds in the spirit realm. For DPS death knights, not only will this help your healer out, but this will allow you to massively improve the buff you get from overhealing. Protectors of the Endless: I and a few other death knights have found that Dark Simulacrum does work on Elder Regail's Lightning Bolt, which hits for over 200k on normal difficulty. This is a massive dps increase to both dps and tanks, so glyph for Dark Simulacrum when doing this fight. If anyone else has found any neat tricks like these, please post them here.Karaahl0 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 [Suggestion] Blood-Soaked Armor So I had one last insomniac idea to share before I take a break from WoW, something to help mitigate melee damage for Frost and Unholy in PvP. Here goes: ... Functionally, the idea here is that when you activate the ability, you gain a snapshot buff that reduces melee damage equal to (Max %Health) minus (Current %Health). E.g.: Use it at 75% health, reduce melee damage by 25%. Use it at 10% health, reduce melee damage by 90%. Realistically, the idea is that when you take damage from melee, your blood soaks into and covers your armor. The more health you have missing, the more blood you have available to harden. Something like that...Pushßutton18 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 Feels like I'm clipping GCD >.> Hey guys, I thought I'd post here to see if any other death knights had had this issue and knows where to look or how to remedy it. Before I start I'd like to say that I've ran a ping test for an hour with no hiccups and at a constant 40ish ms. In game my latency sits at 90-100ish due to living east coast in a central server. It constantly feels as if I'm clipping my gcd. The abilities come off gcd (or at least are displayed as doing so) and if I press the ability immediately when its shown off gcd it doesn't execute as if its clipping some hidden gcd. Usually just have to press button about twice after its shown off gcd to get it to execute. Best I can explain it. Again I don't get lag spikes and it boggles my mind and is QUITE irritating. I dont recall having this issue prior to pandaria. Any insight would be extremely helpful. Even a nudge to a thread with someone having that same problem AND a solution. <3 HarkenHarken0 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 2400 DK this season streaming currently the highest rated phd in north america check it out!Knox16 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 pvp on 2hand frost. I took a break, came back Am I doing it correctly FOR PVP 2hand frost. haste is the main stat. Expertise and hit is 0 for level 90. I basically want to use obliterate whenever it is up. Obliterate and frost strike are the main attacks. Frost presence. Use other abilities depending on the situation.Herppderpp7 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 What trinket is better dps? From a PVE standpoint is the trinket that drops from Lei Shi or the trinket you can buy with valor from the dominance offensive a bigger DPS increase? Lei Shis trinket is a random proc haste buff. The DO trinket is an on use crit enhancing trinket.Grishnok5 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 paying death knight before level 55 for whatever reason i have been able to play a death knight before i even started my first character i have made a death knight yet because im not shore why i can in fact i can play any race or class (except for monk) and i dont have ether of the two newest expansions. why can i do this? or is this normalDawgapo1 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 hey guys my aoe sucks I cant seem to beat hunters shammys and blood dk on aoe but my single target is fine only time I can aoe is if im on my sv hunter does that mean that im bad on my frost dk.Micheljföx6 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 5.2 Unholy - Mastery > Crit? With the changes to the Gargoyle dealing partial Shadow damage, and therefore benefitting from Mastery, will Mastery start to edge out over Crit? Just got around to leveling my Unholy DK in MoP, and i've noticed that Unholy DKs do even more Shadow damage than before, especially with the introduction of Soul Reaper. Not to mention that as an Undead, Unholy Mastery buffs the damage/healing of my Touch of the Grave racial.Daedros2 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 dw 483 or 2h 476? Well i got a sha touched 483 drop so i can either go dw with it which im trying to get away from because i want to go 2h. Or i can run the starshatter drop i got today until i get the 2h sha axe. I know it would be a dps loss to use the 2h and if it had droped by itself and me not get the other 483 id be all over it, I know noone can tell me what to do, im just confused about what i wanna doAarondk5 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 About the Winged Steed redesign... Yeah, Blizz? Um, my toon is sitting almost on the bone gryphon's back legs instead of centered in the saddle like before, please fix?Dååthknight4 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 Roll Tide Roll! Title says it all 1111!1Nobul16 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 9, 2013 gems for unholy? so i recently specced unholy and i was wonderin will stacking all pvp power gems be beneficial as unholy? many dks have nothing but pvp power so im a bit confused. should i stack haste? hit? what are some good gems as unholy? any help is appreciatedDdarkdeathh6 Jan 9, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 Why and how? I used to love unholy. The spec was great. How, and why, did they change it so much for the worse? It's boring, and the transformation is annoying... :( I'm sure I'm not the only one with this opinion, right?Earlgrey14 Jan 8, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 Pestilence I know in cata it made diseases do 50% dmg unless you were unholy, is that still the case in MoP?Tracfone6 Jan 8, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 Frost or Unholy for 4.1 PvP I've noticed that there are way more Frost DK's then Unholy ever since the patch and I'm wondering if Frost would be the way to go now for pvp. I would like to get some more details before I spend some gold on a re-spec :).Enum20 Jan 8, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 DK pvp This expention sucks for dk's. 1.8k rating in 2s and 2k in 3s for the last season...and this once i cant even break great balance...Tricyclene13 Jan 8, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 Future of Death Knight tanking: Precarious? Going over the patch notes for 5.2 and the recent buffs several of the other tanking classes have received, Does any one else feel that the death knights are being left behind? Compared to Paladins and Warriors, I feel like the Active Mitigation on blood death knights to be quite lacklustre. The survivability of the Blood Death knight in this patch has been quite ordinary than compared to Other classes (Paladins especially) and with their buff on Eternal Flame on self casts coming up in 5.2.. I donno, it somehow feels as if we are getting the shaft.. but I can't point out exactly how. Any thoughts or opinions?Punchbala29 Jan 8, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 Femorcs Unite! I'm sick of looking at these inferior races and reading there rambling banter about how they cannot properly execute the Death Knight class. So I've decided to make a place where the master race of Azeroth can discuss Death Knight's and not be pestered by the rabble. Sooooo my burning question my fellows beautiful busty counterparts is... Who is excited for UH in 5.2? I know I am getting hot and heavy about it. Feel free to talk about other stuff too. FEMORCS UNITE!Krukgara20 Jan 8, 2013
Jan 8, 2013 so guys about dw frost hit cap in pvp someone told me it was 8% that is way to much hit to get the hitcap i would have to gem and refoge everything hit to beable to reach this cap thats insane amount of hit for dw is this really trueNongeon2 Jan 8, 2013