Apr 20, 2012 Holy Paladin Trinket? My (human) pally is about to hit 85. I've read a few places that the pvp trinkets aren't too amazing for hpals. I've also read that trinkets in general for healing in pvp is very comp dependent and situational. Since this will be my first healer in pvp, I'm looking for some breakdown info for trinkets an their situational uses. I was thinking of getting Tsunami right away and maybe pairing it with the trinket from DS spine. Is it good to pair Tsunami with a similar trinket? Thanks in advance for any tips/suggestions.Krater0 Apr 20, 2012
Apr 20, 2012 Ret Rotation During Timewarp do u alternate CS then TV then CS then TV when timewarp is up?Sagers2 Apr 20, 2012
Apr 20, 2012 Is my spec ok? It's for doing both pvp/pve Would you guys recommend any changes? If possible can you guys please link good builds for what I do? I haven't played for a long time so I don't know what is more important or missing anymore...Rallea4 Apr 20, 2012
Apr 20, 2012 Mists of Pandaria Ret Holy Power Video Hello my brother Paladins! I come to you with a short video demonstration of how our Holy Power system has changed for the better in Mists of Pandaria, hope you enjoy! Apr 20, 2012
Apr 20, 2012 gone 9 months, what happened to ret? I was gone for about 9 months, came back and started leveling my mage. I hopped over onto my paladin today and grabbed some gear, read up on all the abilities in the spell book and went to do some warm ups on some mobs to practice and get back in the swing of things. Somethign feels wrong... I was opening with judge then hitting crusader strike then I... well, I have no idea, everything is on cooldown or ineffecient to use because I need 2 more holy power. Is our rotation just that barren now?Riatan32 Apr 20, 2012
Apr 20, 2012 What Next? So, I hit 85 about a week ago and I've got nearly full Immolation gear (non-heroic) and after grinding in PvP (since it seems easier to get Justice through PvP). I'm getting a little exhausted of playing a paladin as surprising as it sounds, since it is my favorite class, but I want to know something else not completely paladin wise but I feel it belongs in this thread. I've been trying a few classes out and I'm not sure; I want another class to play in the spare time if I get tired of PvPing and running raids/dungeons. What class is most like the Paladin for me to play and enjoy myself while doing it? Casters are out of it seeing I'm mainly a Prot/Ret Paladin and absolutely hate..hate...hate casters and playing as them.Tyllarar1 Apr 20, 2012
Apr 20, 2012 So today in the arena It was me and an unholy dk vs a arcane mage and a fire mage. With in 5 seconds(give or take) at the start of the match then Just destroy my DK friend he dropped faster then a tauren pushed off the cliffs of thunder bluff. Little did the arcane mage know I used my sneeky little blood elf feet to ambush him and 4 shot him (useing 4 set bouse from pve ret set) then I los the fire mage Healed up and Blew Up the Fire mage and then my friend asked me " did you just solo two different kinds of mages ?" my response "yea Like a boss " Idk if they where bad or stupid or got cocky But it was funny. An one have any war storys about your pally in arenas both bad !@# or funny?Thorodan16 Apr 20, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 Proud Paladin! Welcome, Brothers and Sisters As you can clearly see i am a paladin, I have been a paladin for 7 years in warcraft. And a paladin in Diablo 2 for more years then i can remember. This Paladin Arthaschild Was my first character created back in 2005 and i havent changed her name or apperance, I work very hard to make her as close to perfect as possable. So the reason i write is that i would like to see the other paladins of the worlds opinion on my paladin. She is fully Transmogged, 13k Achievement points, 100% enchanting recipes, and many other things that make me very proud of this character. So Please take a moment and look her over and let me know what you guys think. Thank You All, Good Luck And May The Light Be With You All !Arthaschild11 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 Holy Paladin question I normally play lolret or tank, but as i have acquired a full set of holy gear from heroics i decided to give it a try. Now what I'm wondering is, why after reading the sticky and comments, where the general consensus was that in 4.3 Paladin do not stack haste but just get the first threshold at 777 and then stack mastery.... do I see basically all paladins stacking haste. I have yet to run into a holy paladin stacked mastery. Does the sticky need an update? Is it because in current tier gear you cant run oom anyway so might as well get haste for more HPS?Fulloffail12 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 best way to level up and how im tanking dungeon since lvl 15 full boa, and i was wondering , what is the best way to level up 60-80, i know 80-81 is dungeon and 81-85 quest, but 60-70 im not sure, some ppl told me dungeon becasue ret suck at 60 until u have haste, and im kinda hesitingthank you ( i wanan level pretty fast, i tried aoe grinding too)Soock13 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 Holy PvP Stat Weights Greetings fellow Paladins, My question is a simple one. I do a decent amount of random BG's, but I'm more interested in my performance in a rated BG and 2v2 and 3v3 arena environment. I know that crit is our best stat. Infusion of Light says hello! :) What I am having trouble settling on... how much spirit do we give up for crit? I initially had 2200 combat regen, but I recently reforged to closer to 1900-2000. Basically, I'd like to know what kind of spirit you try to achieve. Based on that, I'll dump everything else I can into crit. Semi-related question: How highly do you value Rule of Law? (15% crit on WoG at 3/3) The last 10 points in the spec seem like they could go into a million perfectly valid permutations, I always have trouble deciding what's worthwhile. Except for Eternal Glory which I've always taken. If it's relevant, my 3's team consists of a Frost DK and Enhancement Shaman/Fire Mage. Thanks!Shadin1 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 Ret Race (Horde) for PvP My friend and I are looking to finish leveling our ret pally and dk to do some 2s/3s with and I was wondering what would probably be the best race for me as horde would be? If I had to guess I would sayyy maybe a BE for the silence just to continue pressure but I'm not entirely sure. Input would be appreciated.Gashett15 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 Glyph of Judgment vs Glyph of Exo I'm recently getting back into the RET scene. Anyone have any idea what one to use for PvE? I know our Judges got a buff and I hear they can hit fairly hard with 5 stacks of censure. Could this mean it's better than the Exo glyph? Thanks in advance :)Alandan3 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 Embarrassing question..... So I have a somewhat embarrassing question. 1st, I logged out in some mixed gear so please don't judge me on my profile. My question is this. I have been tanking with this pally for a long time. Tanked through a few bosses is DS, and can pretty much own any current 5 man heroics. The thing is, I keep hearing people talking about "bubbling" and such, and I don't quite know how to incorporate that into my tanking. I know one of our defensive cooldowns causes us to lose threat, but which one? Can someone explain to me the concept and practical uses of our hand and shield spells so I can start using them during fights effectively? I want to ease the strain on our healers as much as possible and I think knowing how to use our cooldowns better will help. I have had no complaints on my tanking as of yet, even in DS. But I feel there is more I can do to mitigate and survive with some spells I am not using. Any tips or pointers?Xerrxes9 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 crit vs mastery PVP so ive bin reading a lot about the whole crit vs mastery thing and im leaning more towards crit right now. whats kind of crit % should i be aiming for?Achillius1 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 19, 2012 lvl 60 pvp set i found th ret one, but where is the holy one...... can'T find itSoock3 Apr 19, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 How to Own A Rogue? I have been running into a lot of one on one verus rogues. They get me most of the time by the second or the third zap. I'm thinking that how I take on a rogue is wrong. I try not to blow my freedom, bubble or trinket right way. So I'm looking for advice. Now I know that I will get haters or get will troll. I'm looking for someone to give their time to comment. THanks if you comment something helpful.StewymisterStewymisster14 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Neglecting Crusader Strike while tanking I do a lot of randoms, and as such, have come across a lot of questionable play. However, nothing is so consistent as the usage of Hammer of the Righteous over Crusader Strike on single target (arcane mages who hit AM every time it lights up are a close 2nd). I try to inform the tank in a way that doesn't make them look unknowledgeable, but I'm often met with very high resistance - the paladins who do this have been doing it for 50+ levels with no threat problems whatsoever (in no small part thanks to the fact that lowbie tanks are top tier DPS by design). Some of them even say they still never have threat issues in raids or anywhere else. Oh well, I'm quick to drop it - no sense in stirring up argument, especially if what they do usually works fine. But it is annoying having to throttle my DPS more than I usually do almost every time I get a paladin tank. But hey, maybe I'm just really unlucky. Does anyone else notice this a lot? EDIT: TLDR: HotR should have a beginner tooltip that specifies that it isn't as good as Crusader Strike on single target, because it seems that a ton of people don't know, even after extensively tanking at 85.Reygh61 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Tier 13 2p bonus vs. resil Hi, just started pvping recently and was wondering if i should keep my tier13 2p bonus or go full pvp gears for more resil. sorry if this question has been asked before, i've tried searching and couldn't find the answer. appreciate any help i can getKizaru3 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 need advice to start pvp. now that i got my pve gear pretty decent. i know i still need some improvements. but i been watching pvp videos on youtube and i think pvp looks cool. i know it will be frustrating starting out. but what I NEED A PLAN. so i am seeking help in what gear, or how to get the gear, to go pvp. should i get all gear first. can i pvp and get gear. i checked out arena junkies and seen some stuff about my ret paladin class. but was hoping to get some input from the paladin forums. you guys have always been helpful. thanks for you time. "now go pvp or something."Xcalizorz2 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Skill Cap Question I got this toon to 85 a couple days ago. I leveled this toon from 15 to 85 purely through tanking in randoms along the way. I did so in hopes to allow myself to learn how to tank as much as possible so I can perform well in the random heroics, LFR's and eventually in our guild raids. I started running random Twilight heroics last night and did fine. (No wipes and held aggro well) Everything seems to be going well, but I do have a few questions regarding stat caps and here we go: Here are my current stats regarding mastery, dodge, parry and block.. Mastery - 1,585 (+8.84 Mastery) Dodge = 13.62% Parry = 14.88% Block = 42.89% I see some people have mentioned "CTC%"....Sadly, I am unable to use context clues to figure out what people mean. Am I supposed to add up the %'s of Block, Parry & Dodge gto get this CTC value? For example, would my toon's CTC be: 13.62 + 14.88 + 42.89 = 71.39% (Is this right?) Lastly, what should I try to hit with regards to mastery (block), Parry and Dodge? Up to this point, I have merely been buying the cheapest gems on the AH because I am new to this server and have limited gold resources. I intend to make more educated changes to my gems as my gold starts to accumulate via randoms. Thank you, in advance, for your input. I did read the sticky, and saw the poster mention CTC, but the details were unclear as for what to obtain for each stat. Thanks again.Rhônin4 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Anyone bored of Hpally heals? Idk Druids have HoTs,Roots,Cyclone,Forms to escape. Priests ,leaps.HoT,Bubs,DMG Reductions, Shammys.....OP Pallys have 1 DMG Reduction 30%,DMG goes to the pally.MAna regen lowers healing done by 50% 18 secs.Crappy AoE HoT.No bubs.Only thing making pally's speacial is the OP Bub....Mass Dispel.Rolant9 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Biggest self WoG What's the biggest self WoG heal you've ever gotten? Mine was 70k :DAnaik5 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Gnomes I was wondering if anyone agrees with me by saying that it would be a good idea if blizzard released a patch/update that could allow gnomes to choose 'Paladins' as their character class?Bobert24 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Aura Mastery in DS I've read conflicting information about this - so I thought I'd bring it up at this level and see what people have to say. What encounters is Aura Mastery + Resist Aura NOT useful to mitigate raid damage? Obviously, some bosses (Morchok) are playing in either Physical or Nature damage ... But I keep hearing that some boss abilities that AM would be a great tool against are "unresistible". Ultraxion comes to mind. I've heard something about Hagara, too (except for Ice Lance). What do you know? TELL ME! Seems that all the fights are pretty straight forward except these ones. This is what I've gathered from the responses and from looking at WOL Expression Editor myself... Morchok - Morchok or his clone deal Nature and Physical. Damage from the Resonating Crystals is Shadow and CAN be resisted. Hagara - Lightning phase is Nature, so no. Ice phase, in the bubble is not resistible (it's Environmental Damage). Shattered Ice and Ice Lance are Frost and can be resisted. Ultraxion - All abilities are immune to Resist. Gunship - Trash phase, there are obvious areas of Shadow damage that are resistible. After dragon flies away, all damage is Physical.Slussy9 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Ret is MoP Ret is backCreepindethh37 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Holy Pally question Hi all. I've been raiding with my new 10m guild for approx 3 weeks now and have been able to get fairly geared. We're only 3/8 atm, but progressing still. But I find that I'm still going oom on certain fights. Mainly on fights where we're stacking and spam healing aoe damage such as Ultraxion and Madness. I've read through stickies about the 777 haste threshold and have spoken with other HPallies who stack it. So I'm not quite sure which route is best at this point. I like the quick spell casts as this has helped save people from the brink of death from time to time, but I'm sure this is contributing to my ooming. Would stacking mastery be best? I've only been playing as holy for 3 weeks, so I'm trying to fine tune the process. Also, one more question. I just got the Maw of the Dragonlord last night and was quite ecstatic, but I have seen other folks running around with Vagaries of Time. Granted the folks using Vagaries were Heroic, but is that particular mace still better than Maw? Thanks.Raenie8 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 Hand of Sacrifice macro I would like to make a HoS macro for when im in bgs. i wanna be able to have an enemy target and cast HoS w/o switching targets, kind of like a target = nearest friend. if thats possible, any input would be great. thanksSagers4 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 18, 2012 The state of ret pvp I usually play a disc priest and i'm thinking on gearing an alt for pewpew pvp. My options are either a pally or a mage (both 85 already). I want the most easy-op-fotm class of them, its an alt so ill play occasionally, i dont want it to be a frustrating annoying experience. Ret seems to be in a very good place right now, even more than mages. But i dont know if its because im a priest and get constantly trained by ret+other-melee. So, how do the rets feel about their class right now? This is all pvp talk.Thehealbot10 Apr 18, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Varo'then's Brooch or License to Slay? Hello, I'm wondering what most of you would decide to go if given this decision.. I'm not too sure if the ramp time on LoS + it's ability to drop stacks completely on some fights would be worth the reforges for hit I'll be steering away from + the odd mastery on the trinket itself.. Varo'then's bothers me like any other proc trinket bothers me.. especially when I'm guns ready wanting procs to line up at the start of a burn-phase w/ GoAK+wings+zeal And also, I tend to get in trouble with the on-use :-P hehe..Anyways, thank you for reading this- and I appreciate all constructive help!Ivytea12 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 seal of right... for aoe vs divine storm Hi guys, Is there a reason to put a point into divine storm if SoR is our aoe attack with SoC talent point? I'm usually fighting using Seal of Truth which isn't aoe... so does it make sense to use SoR for aoe... or should I simply use divine storm and not switch seals in fight? Thanks for any advice.Kenpo3 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Ret PVP Gear Question Right now i am rocking the 2pc RF and the RF Gurth and after capping CP this week i should have enough for the cata wep, but i do not have very many pieces of cata gear outside of a ring and bracers. So my question is, would it be more beneficial to get the cata wep OR should i start filling in other pieces with cata first? Thanks in advance!Alektrannia4 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Divine Storm *sigh* Blizzard is always changing the way Divine storm works.. seems like they have no idea on what to do with that spell.. why not just remove the spell and put something else in.. they always going back and forth with it consuming holy power or giving it... I dont like that you need holy power to use it.. Leave it alone or remove the spell,, thanks!Evilraziel27 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Please make Divine Storm useful Right now its useless in everything PVP PVE EVERYTHING. Revert it back to how useful it was in wotlk I am tired of pressing crusader strike judgment then waiting for crusader strike againWemmons3 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Holy Pally Thrown into Heroic Madness LF Tips Hi! I was recently recruited into a guild that's 7/8 heroic as their Holy Pally, and we attempted Heroic Madness-10 earlier this evening. The thing is, the guild I was in beforehand couldn't down normal Madness, so it was quite the jump for me. I was doing my best and did pretty good on the meters when taking to account my lower ilevel compared to the other healers. My concern is that I'm not maximizing my potential for Madness, and in not doing so, costing us kills. Do any Holy Pallies who've downed Heroic Madness have any specific tips for the fight? Do my stat priorities look okay? Any platform specific or situational wisdom you could impart? My raiding compadres don't have Holy Pally experience at this level of content, and I'm at a loss for what I might be able to do more effectively. Thank you!Faythe5 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Good Transmogs Can someone give me links to particuarly good looking 2H maces? I'm not looking for anything particuarly over-used. Something that looks nice and clean would be best.Relques9 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Gurthlak vs. Cudgel Ataraxis, Cudgel of the Warmaster vs. Gurthalak, Voice of the Deeps Which is better for ret?Cornu12 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Tanking I want to switch from MS Ret to Prot, and I've already changed specs. When I get cata installed, can I tank instances in pvp gear with a shield and pvp weapon or do I NEED to go back to ret, get tanking gear from quests and then try tanking?Sylentwolf17 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Gear for prot leveling Just curious, but is there any reason why I would not be able to use the BoA plat DPS gear to level as a prot pally? I figure by the time I get into the upper levels I would need to switch some gear out, but I did not think it would matter much at low levels. Thanks for any help.Pezro3 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 Ret paladin Challenge mode armor I'm loving this set and its not even tier .. I'm so so excited for some MoPJusticär6 Apr 17, 2012
Apr 17, 2012 new pally bubble animation Apr 17, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 Is my gear/spec still viable Im wondering if this healing gear is still viable for the newer content, mostly heroics as i dont know that ill be raiding anytime soon. Also what about my spec? What do i need to upgrade to do the new heroics? What do i need to upgrade to be considered fully raid ready? I just used a scroll of ress after about 8 months of not playing so im not up to date with my knowledge anymore, thanks in advanceNaomhan3 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 Judgement Spaulders Anyone else think there is something wrong with the drop rate of these things? I've been at it for almost a year now...not even once did it drop, and I think I have seen everything else Blackwing Lair has to offer in the process, multiple times over :(Bigblak4 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 need some holy paladin advice My main is a holy priest with a discipline offspec. I heal in raids as holy for the most part. I also have a restoration druid and restoration shaman so I've done a lot of healing. I leveled this toon as protection but since healing is my game, I want to get good at healadin. Yes, I know my gear needs work. Questions that I have are, which aura is preferred for the most part? Is seal of insight the best seal to use? And a third which I sort of know the answer to is what is the best general rotation? As a holy priest, at least for me, there isn't a standard rotation, just a spell priority so I'm of the opinion that the same is true for healadin.Knokk4 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 I recently came back wow ,Got Question? I recently came back wow ,Got Question? I recently moved from low population server to darkspear ,because my server died out and no1 left lol. I played all three specs as pally for 2 and half years. I like to pvp mostly. My question is Which spec should i concentrate mostly to become a better player ,i use to help out my friends and low bracket players to get there 1800 or 2k rating ,never took pvp seriously but for fun. Ret or holy Which one should i choice ?Tamilscar4 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 Tank stats - advice needed I've searched multiple guides in an attempt to find some basic information on tanking stats. So far, my search has been fruitless. I am not hit capped, which sometimes causes my interrupts to miss. However, if I attempt to reforge into hit, I lose block (which I assume is pretty important). I've already got my expertise at 26 so I'm not worried about that; I just need to figure out what I should focus on right now: block or hit? Any insight would be greatly appreciated, and feel free to critique my gear and everything, as well.Majja7 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 Latest Paladin changes on Beta (Build 15508) Taken from MMO-champion: Skills Holy Light: Healing increased to 6579 to 7331, up from 4653 to 5185. Seal of Command: Now has a 1.5 sec cooldown. Seal of Insight: Now has a 1.5 sec cooldown. Seal of Righteousness: Now has a 1.5 sec cooldown. Seal of Truth: Now has a 1.5 sec cooldown. Now does [28% of AP + 14% of SPH] additional damage, up from [17.5% of AP + 9% of SPH]. Retribution Seal of Justice: Now has a 1.5 sec cooldown. Holy Beacon of Light: Reworked: Your Holy Light will also heal the Beacon for 50*2}% of the amount healed. Your Holy Radiance will heal for X% of the amount healed. All other heals will heal for 50% of the amount healed. Daybreak: New. After casting Holy Radiance, your next Holy Shock will also heal other allies near its target for 50% of the healing done. Devotion Aura: Now reduces all magic damage taken, not just Fire, Frost, and Shadow. Holy Radiance: Now heals allies of the target for 50% of that amount, instead of a static number. Light of Dawn: Wording changed to remove "frontal cone".Glyph of Contemplation: Allows you a moment of peace as you kneel in quiet contemplation to ponder the nature of the Light. Glyph of Dazing Shield: Now has a 10 sec daze duration. Glyph of Flash of Light: When you Flash of Light a target, it increases your next heal done to that target within 7 sec (was 4 sec) by 10% (was 30%). Glyph of Illumination: Your Holy Shock criticals grant 1% mana return, but Holy Insight (was Meditation) returns 10% less mana. Glyph of Seal of Blood: NYI removed. Glyph of Winged Vengeance: Your Avenging Wrath depicts 4 wings. -------Personal notes: Looks like they put a 1.5 sec cooldown on all seals, wonder if they're still on GCD? Most of the changes seem to be Holy related. Holy Light heals for more (which is awesome), Daybreak's a new talent that adds a little incentive to use Holy Shock after casting Holy Radiance for AoE healing (also, Holy Radiance has had its splash healing regulated). New Devo aura finally resists all magic, which is awesome. What's even more awesome is that Light of Dawn may actually not be positional anymore! Any beta testers on that can test this out? As for Glyphs, I'm sorry to see Seal of Blood being removed, I really liked the idea. Illumination is eh. Dazing shield just basically clarifies the daze is 10 seconds. FoL got changed, duration extension is nice but they nerfed the healing increase. Illumination's kind of a give and take, don't know how I feel about it. As for Glyph of Avenging Wrath, well...I guess it matches the challenge mode set...and a glaring reminder to Mages what they can never take away again. :D Glyph of Contemplation looks like it replaced Frugal Blessings. I wonder how you activate it in the first place?Ah well. What're your thoughts, guys? Edit: Wait, they removed Seal of Blood's NYI status, never mind. Edit 2: SEALS ARE FINALLY OFF GCD AND HAVE THEIR OWN CD. HAPPY DANCE!Jackishi33 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 General HPAL pvp help? Trinkets as well OK so I have never played holy, this is my first time as I am getting used to it, I am trying to farm as much honor as possible because I will need resilience to step into an arena and as the title states which two trinkets would you guys suggest? A lot of people have suggested Dark Moon Card: Tsunami which I really like. Also on top of that question, obviously I know the TOP statistic is INT, but what is after? Also if you guys can tell me what I should reforge to and such I would GREATLY appreciate it. I always thought it was INT > Crit > Spirit > Haste > Mastery? Please correct me if I am wrong and also if someone can take a screen shot and post it I would greatly appreciate that (So I have SOME kind of idea what my bars should look like) since it's pretty weird playing holy for literally the first time EVER) it's extremely hard to get used to and annoying. Also another reason I want to gear up is to be able to queue LFR for some raid finder loot. I greatly appreciate all the help guys and if I don't respond it's because I'm about to take a nap and be up in an hour or two. Also keep in mind the reason I figured to start gearing this toon up is to be eligible to join decent RBGs and arenas as well. Also any addons you guys would recommend for a holy pally? Sorry for the long post but it's because I'm going to be going to take a nap and hopefully wake up to some excellent advice :P I appreciate it, once again. and for the record I'm not new to the game at all I have a mage and a rogue that are both for Cata..It is just so weird going to a full out healing role.Omgpallyguy5 Apr 16, 2012
Apr 16, 2012 Paladins aren't overpowered. Not at all... :STuraven7 Apr 16, 2012