Apr 9, 2012 VP Gear I have about 1100 VP right now. Once reset day comes around, what should my next valor point purchase be?Hrrom7 Apr 9, 2012
Apr 9, 2012 Prot Pally for RBGs? Are Prot Pallys even usefull in rbgs? Are they good tanks for rbgs?Unicornslayr1 Apr 9, 2012
Apr 9, 2012 Help me be a better Ret I've been playing this toon pretty regularly as of late because I really enjoy the Ret playstyle. Problem is I struggle in certain situations in PvP. Against a good rogue, Frost Mage, or healer I feel useless, like my abilities are hitting like wet noodles and I can't control the fight enough to put out the damage I need to. 4 Simple (I hope) questions: -As a Ret how do I win against an equally skilled and/or geared Rogue? -As a Ret how do I win against an equally skilled and/or geared Frost Mage? -As a Ret how do I kill an equally skilled and/or geared Healer? -Finally, does my gear or spec need any revamping for PvP scenarios? (Armory should reflect my current PvP gear and my PvP Ret spec) Thanks a lot for any feedback you can offer.Obtuseotter26 Apr 9, 2012
Apr 9, 2012 PvE Progression Guys, I got a question. I haven't PvE'ed in ages and never on my Paladin. I really want to get the 2pc T13 set bonus for PvP, and not the raid finder one. So, I have to get a PvE set going. Problem is, it seems like I'd lose soooo much strength going from Cataclysmic gear to Firelands "Immolation" gear, like over -100 strength per piece. Is it still worth it? What are the steps I should take so I can get 2pc T13 non-raid finder?Mukara12 Apr 9, 2012
Apr 9, 2012 Holy Paladin Guide (4.3) PvE I have created this thread because the Holy Paladin theorycrafting guide is out of date and we should really try to keep one for new and veteran healers alike to reference to. This thread is to help newcomers, or for veterans looking for the newest changes, my reviews and setup for a Holy Paladin. I will be coming out with what i do as a Holy Paladin for the bosses i have progressed on with my guild, if you guys have any specific questions for me feel free to leave a post asking what it is i do for certain bosses or just in general. If i see people showing interest here for Holy paladin pvp guide i will start posting that too but as of right now strictly PvE =). I do not use spreadsheets, everything i will be posting is tested out by myself in a raid environment with multiple circumstances/situations, and my preformence based off that. I will be using the format that Lylthe used to some degree (Post can be found here: I will be doing this just to save as much time as i can while still keeping a up to date Holy Paladin guide out there =). Table of Contents - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Acronyms Spell Selection - How to Heal - Cooldown Usage Spec and Glyphs - Spec - Prime Glyphs - Major Glyphs - Minor Glyphs Stat Analysis - Spell Statistics - Holy Radiance Stats Continued - Gemming/Enchanting/Reforging Et cetera - Raid Buffs - Consumables - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Acronyms: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [AW] - Avenging Wrath aka Wings (Ability) [BL] - Blessed Life (Talent) [DP] - Divine Plea (Ability) [DL] - Divine Light (Ability) [EG] - Eternal Glory (Talent) [EJ] - Enlightened Judgments (Talent) [JoTP] - Judgements of the Pure [FoL] - Flash of Light (Ability) [GoAK] - Guardian of Ancient Kings (Ability) [HL] - Holy Light (Ability) [HoF] - Hand of Freedom (Ability) [HoP] (sometimes BoP, used to be Blessing of Protection) - Hand of Protection (Ability) [HoSac] - Hand of Sacrifice (Ability) [HoSal] - Hand of Salvation (Ability) [HP] - Holy Power (Resource) [HS] - Holy Shock (Ability) [HR] Holy Radiance (Ability) [HPM] - Heals per mana [HPS] - Heals per second [IoL] - Infusion of Light (Talent) [LoD] - Light of Dawn (Ability) [LoH] - Lay on Hands (Ability/Talent) [Mp5] - Mana per 5 seconds [Mps] - mana per second [PotI] Protector of the Innocent (Talent) [SoI] - Seal of Insight (Ability) [SoL] - Speed of light (Talent) [ToR] - Tower of Radiance (Talent) [WoG] - Word of Glory (Ability)Eprodigy8 Apr 9, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 Gauntlets of the Golden Thorn? I was doing some looking, and all the top ret. paladins are using Gauntlets of the Golden Thorn (H) with int. gems put into it. Im just wondering why they would use this. What benefits would it give them?Nazerroth13 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 primary stats Can anyone tell me what the primary stats are for a Retribution Paladin. Or where I can find them. Thanks For Your Help TamarackTamarack4 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 MoP Paladin Info En Masse! (TEXT WALL!) Hello everyone! I just got my beta client up, so go ahead and shower me with your jealousy and hatred! But then calm the !@#$ down, cause I had some time to tool around on the MoP Beta last night. and I now come bearing gifts! After messing around with the class and new talents for a while, I thought I would post some MoP Paladin info, and then voice my thoughts, concerns, and nerdgasm'd bias! So without further ado: FROM THE EYES OF A PROTECTION SPEC PS: I initially started by speccing PROT, only to find BOTH my primary and secondary were now locked into prot, and I cant change them. Also, my judgement is on a 25 day cooldown after its first and only use. I hope to evaluate Ret and Holy soon! Spells/Abilities Crusader Strike 600 Mana, 4.5 CD This was a concern of mine for some time now, and it seems my fears were warranted. The beta damage for my 1hander is more then 1.5k behind my damage on live, which stings even more when you factor in the increased CD, from 3 seconds to 4.5. Prot DOES get sanctity of battle currently, but since haste isnt really a major prot stat, it didnt do very much to ease the cooldown woes. Nerf: Less damage Nerf: Longer CD Nerf: No longer applies weakened blows My Opinion: Crusader Strike needs to work like a Warriors Heroic Strike, adding additional damage when used with a 1hander. I also feel it should apply weakened blows, or else you're forced to rotate in an AOE move on single target fights. Judgement My judgement saw one use, and then locked me to a 25 day CD. Awesome. Hammer of the Righteous: 2340 Mana, 4.5 CD (Shared with CS) The damage on HotR has been halved, but weapon damage has been doubled, so its virtually identical to live. Weakened blows affects EVERYTHING hit by the holy splash, not just your main target, which is great! The cost remains unchanged as well, but it feels much easier to go OOM in MoP. Afew cycles into my rotation made me want to search around for a horde priest secretly mana burning me! Buff: Weakened blows affects AoE Nerf: Going OOM? My Opinion: Overall its unchanged. Since the mana cost is the same, slowly OOMing is more a symptom of Prot in general, instead of HotR. Word of Glory: 1-3 HP, 1.5 CD WoG heals for about 1k less per HP then on live despite the spellpower boost, but only has a 1.5 second CD. Its also off the GCD for the Prot spec, which is useful, since you can sneak it into your rotation. Buff (or unnerf?): CD reduces to 1.5 seconds Nerf: Heals for about 8% less Nerf: Loss of overheal-bubble. My Opinion: A strong change for the better! The slightly reduced healing, and loss of an overheal bubble are overshadowed by the much improved cooldown, and no global cooldown. We can now use this at 1 or 2 HP without the fear of locking ourselves out for 20 seconds. Shield of the Righteous: 3 HP, No CD, No GCD SotR is also off the global CD for the only spec that gets it, prot. It hits for the same baseline damage as live, except there is no sacred duty proc for an auto crit. It does however, cause you to auto-block the next attack, and increases block chance by 25% for the next 6 seconds. There is also a glyph that changes it to +50% damage, -20% block chance. ALso note that it can only be used at 3 HP now. Buff: Improves blocking chance Nerf: Loss of auto-crit My Opinion: It helps prot do what its meant to do better, which is Tank. The loss of damage sucks from sacred duty going poof sucks to be sure, but the glyph helps soften that blow if you're dead set on smacking people around with it. Consecration 1400 Mana, 9 Duration, 9 CD Though it ticks for only about 80% of the damage on live, it costs even less mana then tne talented version (half) and has a 100% uptime. Unfortunately, Blizzard seems to have given this to us, EXPECTING us to keep it up 100% of the time, since its been listed by blues as part of our rotation. enemies. Buff: Much lower CD Buff: Much lower mana Nerf: Slight damage loss My Opinion: While nice to have for AOE threat, it only ticks away for about 500 damage which is rather unhelpful in a single target fight. The move is also somewhat uninteresting as part of a rotation, it was far more fun when you used it to gather up mobs, or called upon it when needed. I'd say increasing the CD and the Damage drastically would make consecrate more enjoyable. Ardent Defender Unchanghed from live, baseline prot Avengers Shield Unchanged from live, baseline prot Avenging Wrath Unchanged from live.. except... Wait.. No. No! Can it be?! Is this now an UNTYPED buff instead of magic, thus making it undispellable, and unstealable?!? PINCH ME IM DREAMING! My Opinion: Either blizzard is trolling us and it will become magic on launch day, or ghostcrawler finally rolled a paladin!Dandaman12 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 Leveling As Prot Ok? I'm soloing as a prot pally and just wondering if i'll be all right questing,etc with it at higher levels. Went with ret as my dual athough havent used it yet and thinking to switching ot holy instead as I seem to be doing well on the Prot spec now that I have the hang of it.This is my first toon that's why I'm confused as to where to go with this. I'm just about to start on Outlands. Thanks for the input.Elgarlon7 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 Paladin mount glyph suggestion Alliance: Glyph of the scarlet crusade. It makes your mount look like the blood elf pally mount. Horde:(name can change) Glyph of Alliance return. Your mount is like the human pally mount.If your tauren or draenei, This will change your mount into the opposite factions original mount, (The recolored horse) the races have the animations. Draenei had the human pally mount before cata. And tauren will look like they are riding a deathcharger/skeleton horse. Your thoughts?Glenroy10 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 First Ret PvP Movie! Just a few bg clips with RL friends. More to come soon!!! Like or hate it and leave comments!Brackett12 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 Picking a Race... I'm currently working on a Paladin alt but I'm having trouble fully sticking to one race. As things stand there's currently 2 races I'm torn between. Female Human vs. Female Dwarf I like the Human for the spirit racial and diplomacy, EMFH is nice but not really game-changing for me. Dwarf I like for the Stoneform Racial and the awesome LOOKS, she just looks so much more graceful in combat then my human. So tell me which one do you think I should stick with?Leuts5 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 how come my pally doesn't heal much? i have a 85 pally n only heals a very small amount in holy or not all the talent points are set, all blue some epic healing gear and the glyphs are in, i see holy pallys in instances n heal np but for some reason i cant. cant anyon help?Howitzer12 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 Ret Paladin PvP Watch the video Very first one just want some feedback Editing is most likely bad just the program I use, but I just want to see what all you think.Healslayer7 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 8, 2012 Does paladin tanking get any harder? I always tanked as DK, but now since I reached mid 60s on my paladin I started tanking. I feel like there is like 5 abilities in pally tanking that you have to worry about: 2 aoe (holy wrath and hammer of righteousness), shield of righteousness, Avenger shield, and like 2 cool downs. Is that it? With my dk I had to properly time death strikes, aoe was mediocare, and way mo squishy over all. Is that all there is to pally tanking or does it get mo sophisticated at 85?? Thank you!!Scarfaace3 Apr 8, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Paladin Maces I'm trying to find a good one handed mace that really screams paladin :D i have the one i'm wearing right now but the crystal type makes me think Draenei more then paladin :( anyone know any? thx :DLostknight5 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Incredible Healing Hi Guys, I was in a Tol Barad battle yesterday and I noticed that Recount listed one of the Holy Paladins as doing 13,518 heals per second and he didn't die even once. Really? I armoried this guy and noticed that he's ilvl 399 mostly pvp stuff but with a couple pve trinkets. The surprizing thing, to me, what that he's reforged everything into haste. Anybody got any thoughts about this? edit: Pay no attention to my gear, That's my ret stuff, I forgot to change. lolAlexdefolet3 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Emancipate share CD with Every Man? From MMO: Retribution Emancipate *New* Unshackles your spirit, freeing you from one movement impairing effect. 25% of base mana, Instant This is an awesome ability, thank you blizzard. I just hope it doesn't share a cooldown with 'Every Man For Himself' the human racial. What do you think?Kemplore21 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Which Race? I'm not really sure what race to choose. I'm Ret and I want to raid as such at 85 but I also want to do PvP regularly as well. So, if you could, it would be much appreciated if you could suggest a race for me. I'm kind of torn between staying Blood Elf or re-rolling as a Human, but I'm open to other suggestions too. Thanks!Cháchi1 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 New Bubble Hearth(12hr CD) I won't tell if you won't tell!Lone19 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Need advice on what to do (gear related). Hi guys, I recently came back to wow, did that annual pass thing with diablo 3 deal. But I haven't played for a really long time and my gear is really really dated. Todays gear scaled so much since then that I get blown up by geared players in matter of seconds. It's not uncommon to get blown up in 2 to 3 spells/hits by a geared player (about 5 second lasting fights.... not fun). And I have saved up around 3k battleground reward points, whatever they are called. And since next expansion is coming out soon, am I simply better off saving the points for the future, or does it make more sense to spend it now? Thanks, RalleaRallea2 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Blacksmithing and engineering clash? What the title states, I'm levelling my blacksmithing now and was thinking about picking up engineering as a second professions. Problem is I don't know enough about it and don't know if the engineering only benefits clash with the blacksmithing extra sockets etc. Any thoughts?Fulloffail2 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 LF some transmog help I'm working on a set to match my shield. It's my favorite Paladin shield! Anyways, was wondering if anyone can provide suggestions for my belt and boots. Other then running TotC 10/25 of course. Ignore the sword, this sword is BAD !@# and IDC what anyone says >:D Besides, as soon as Blizz lets us use Grand Marshal's Longsword. Until then, I refuse to use any other sword. I have a hard time settling for another sword when that one is PERFECT! Thanks in advance!Rolánd0 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 2piece vs pvp would the 2 piece(helm/legs) from lfr be better for ret or full cata?Greenrebel6 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Hand of light Combat text Does anyone know a way to merge hand of light's damage with the attack that triggers it ( I like big numbers ) Haven't been able to find a way with msbt thx for the helpKeshaqt1 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Spec in MoP PvP I'm levelling this character as fast as I can so that he's just hit 85 when MoP comes out. That way I spend no time gearing him up for gear that'll be useless 5 minutes after the new patch rolls in. But I'm curious about which spec to go for when I get to level 85 (or 90). I like having at least some responsibility during raids, but don't like being solely blamed for a wipe, so I'll probably keep my prot spec, but for PvP, should I go prot, holy or ret? Now, I'm mainly interested in doing arenas, and although I'm new to healing with a paladin, with spells like beacon of light, I can heal four people at the same time, my target, my focus, my beacon and myself, and I'm only half way to 90. Similarly, I can heal three while I'm attacking the enemy with, however, little damage. I've never played ret under the impression that it's been nerfed since ret was OP in BC. Someone please confirm this. But that's my main curiosity. Will prot do more damage per class-use than holy or ret?Visuvius3 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Hammer of Justice Hammer of Justice is just ridiculously long at lower levels, six seconds in battlegrounds where people die in two seconds of close combat regardless of BoAs is just insane. The only argument people have had against this is to get a PvP trinket(Which I always have, obviously XD), but with how common Paladins are at lower levels and the fact it has a five minute cooldown you're just removing a 6 second stun to receive a 4 second stun from another paladin shortly after, if not in the exact same fight. Doubt anything can be done about this really, just thought I would voice this.Mamimi8 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Macro to cast exorcism and then avenger shiel The title pretty much sums up the cause, wasn't sure where to post under paladin or tanking. Was wondering what is the macro sequence for casting exorcism and then avengers shield, /cast exorcism /cast avengers shield doesn't work nor does /cast exorcism /cast avengers shieldFaecroll20 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 7, 2012 Execution sentence... How much damage do you think execution sentence should/will hit for? Using current numbers I think it should hit for a total of around 80-100k when used with wings and possibly trinkets etc. that way in pvp it would hit for around 50-60k and be the kind of ability that you either have to use a defensive cd or heal yourself pretty hard to live through. I think it will hit for around 60-80k so around 35-50k in pvp which while still is good damage is really only the same as a good TV with procs. It's a strange ability. I can't think of anything like it that is on a hefty cd for one ability and only does damage, no knockback or stun or slow or anything. I'd rather it hit for slightly less but be totally undispellable rather than be very powerful but easily cleansed or purged. I am really looking forward to it and hope that it does live up to its name although if someone is forced to blow a defensive cd when it's used then that would perhaps be too powerful because not everyone has a defensive cd on a one minute cooldown.Aulë6 Apr 7, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 HoR SoR macro So, since they took seals off the GCD I need a macro for HoR + SoR. Is there a way of wording the macro to cast SoR only once when I use HoR? I tried this in the beta but it just kept spamming SoR. #showtooltip /cast Hammer of the Righteous /cast Seal of Righteousness /startattack So again, how can I make this only cast SoR once? I also wana do this for CS and SoT.Rendela4 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Purple Paladins UNITE! ASSEMBLE MY PURPLE WARRIORS.Ulaa23 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Idea 2s partner What is a good 2s partner for us rets. I currently run with a really good hunter, but I want to now what is my best possible match up. I ran with a Holy and once went 9-1 with him, but he hasn't been on lately.Tankhealplz3 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 New to Raiding Retribution Hello. I'm new to raiding with retribution. And need a little bit of help. Does is still stand that we can choose crit > haste or haste > crit after Mastery? Do we have a choice? I spoke to a guildy and he said just go for Crit. I'm most likely switching from tank -> dps in my guild so I need to get knowledgeable with Ret. Does my spec look fine? Glyphs? Thank you very much.Icytitan17 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Pally question I have a slight problem. I have persued on the road of being a pally, ret/holy. But my problem is that i have a really crappy 85, and his gear sucks, action bars suck, no currency and it's so hard to do all of that again. I began leveling a new pally, would you guys recommend me leveling my pally to 85 and learn everything? or shold i stick it out with my 85? Please and thank you for the help :) My pally will definitely be my permanent main :)Soullstëaler1 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Aura Mastery confusion? So whats the deal with aura mastery I don't understand it. I was using concentration Aura (i KNOW i was) yet garrote silence still effects me when i use AM?? I was not able to cast a single thing during it whilst a rogue was on me. Can anyone clear this up? Was it just bad timing as i popped AM whilst simultaneously getting silenced? ive had it happen a few times and its rather annoyingPålleh1 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 very bad TV animation in MoP Have any of you seen it? It looks like some kind of gay balerina spinning around and then finishes it off with the EXACT same blood elf animation....(the one where the blood elf does an overhead swing.) You can see it in some videos on youtube.Ragney24 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 hello i have been tanking for a long time and never had trouble with getting adds and know i have alot more trouble getting add becasue of all of the cooldowns on my spells and it is hurting the paladin's in the game and i think they should help them be better tanks and so they get more threat in the game and i allway's get told to build more threat and i have to wait for the cooldowns to build more threat's on stuff and please can u help the paladin's out in the game and thanks for your time.Tonjurus0 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Best of Kamil!! Ret PvP video! Best of Kamil!! BTW: I am currently playing casually as Kamilrak on Kel-Thuzad. Might release a new video though. Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 First VP Purchases Holy Pally Hi Pallies, Given my gear what should my first one or two VP purchases be? Originally my plan was to buy the helm since I was using the PVP helm. But since I recently got the 378 Healer Plate Helm I'm no longer sure that's the best option. My necklace is now my lowest gear piece but it's pretty good overall. The VP clock seems like a pretty strong option since it's gemmable and all haste. If you were me, what would you do? I'm looking for upgrades but I won't be looking to do heroic/normal raids, LFR is as far as I can go given my schedule.Jainey3 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Possible Ret-Only Additional Cleanse (MoP) From MMO-Champion: Retribution Emancipate *New* Unshackles your spirit, freeing you from one movement impairing effect. 25% of base mana, Instant Kind of expensive but great for emergencies if cleanse is on its cool down. Maybe they'll lower the mana cost a bit if during testing they see it's a necessity to spam this for Ret to reach their target. Edit: As Aule pointed out, it seems with this ability present the Glyph of Acts of Sacrifice or whatever it was called was taken out.Judiscpriest8 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Tanking Roles Why are Paladins normally pigeonholed into Off Tanking?Tabernacle2 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Crusader Strike Vs. Hammer of the Righteous. So looky here. I am going into the Prot tree and am tankin up a storm when I come across “Hammer of the Righteous”. This spell has the same mana cost as “Crusader Strike” and seems to share the same cooldown. So can I pretty much take Crusader Strike off my screen? Is there any time that crusader strike is going to be preferred to Hammer of the Righteous? How about in PVP? Thanks.Spártâcùs3 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Just returned! Been gone for almost a year now. Was really looking into leveling up a horde alt to see the other side. So far I'm stuck between Rogue, Paladin, leaning more towards rogue. Just need a few questions answered. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each? I was told paladins were extremely boring, is that true? I was also told that rogues are extremely hard. True or false? Also, this is important, which one seems to be played more? Only things that set me off from rogue is needing to make/apply/remember poisons all the time, a minor inconvenience but I figure it can either become second nature or extremely tedious. What set me off from paladins is how slow their play style can be sometimes, not sure if it changes at higher levels. Thanks for the help :) (getting posted on rogue forum as well)Súckerpunch9 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 LF Ret that is 2.3k+ for 3v3. Ok my bud Spugkiller and I are looking for a pro Ret to play with on a certain BG/Server very soon. Spug is a few weeks away from his Legendary s and we want to run 3x dps in 3's, I think a Ret would go great. Please be full Cata + T2 Wep.Myboyfriend0 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 6, 2012 Tanking, What the Deuce!! Okay getting annoid here... My armor is at 41836 Dodge→ 16.37% Parry→ 17.33% Block→ 64.58% Mastery→ 26.48 And I can't take a hit for !@#$. any suggestions? should I reforge to dodge or gem for stamina? any help with this would be MUCHLY appreciated!! See all these druids and DK's either absorbing the hit or dodging it...Gibs15 Apr 6, 2012
Apr 5, 2012 2's Arena help, Tips appreciated! Hello all, I recently went from being only a PVE tank to trying out some retribution PvP and as with all arena teams I do arena with my gf so it's not possible to switch partners. She's a newly hit 85 dk with still some greens and I started retribution with full pve tank gear (Yes that was horrid in bgs) But now after a week and a half I finally am close to replacing most of the gear. I dont think we did that bad in arena this week, went 8-2 at first and then went 10-6 losing 4 games to a single team xP but then again most people at the low rating bracket aren't good or geared like we are either so I digress. My questions are if frost dk/ret pally works well in your eyes especially against healer teams in the later brackets? What are the strategies for the comp specifically? How much crit should I get or shoot for? should i cap expertise without glyph of seal of truth? I've never played ret in the past before but the rotation to me feels weird. I'll crusader strike and judgement and feel like im sitting there waiting to CS again. I'll usually add a holy wrath to that just for sake of pressing a button, but does the ret rotation feel like this for you guys? But once AW is popped with Zealotry it's like you can't keep up anymore! Any strategies or tips/tricks not mentioned in the PvP sticky is also appreciated. As for gearing I still have some prot PVE pieces to replace and haven't enchanted my gear yet and will get to that soon. I do have macros made for WoG'ing, HoS, HoP, Freedoming my partner. Thanks in advance.Marsharina7 Apr 5, 2012
Apr 5, 2012 Gurthalak Proc Broken on Rets? Anyone notice that since blizzard "fixed" Gurthalak, due to too many tentacle procs, we now get next to ZERO? Every time I raid with a DK or Warrior, there's tentacles everywhere! Lo and behold: None of them are ever mine. I can't be the only one who's noticed this... is there something I'm doing wrong, or is Gurthalak broken for ret pallies now?Fognozzle6 Apr 5, 2012
Apr 5, 2012 Find that transmog! I've been looking everywhere for something to match Stronghold Gauntlets (poor screenshot, but they are gold and silver, very cool). Ideas I've had are Swiftsteel Shoulders and maybe the silver tier reskin from SSC, but other than that I can't find much to match it with :C Sadly there is a perfect green matching set but it's mail -_- Anyone use these for their xmog? Also, xmog thread!Altodox0 Apr 5, 2012
Apr 5, 2012 Raid tokens i have shouldergaurds of the corrupted shoulder but i want to trade it in for the pouldrons of radiant glory, but it says i dont have the required items...HELP?Aznkevin1 Apr 5, 2012
Apr 5, 2012 Few Basic Paladin Questions... Morning all - I'm looking for an alt to create, and someone suggested a paladin. I have to admit I really didn't know much about them - I have spent this morning hunting around the forums here trying to get an idea. I'll level mainly questing, probably queue'ing up for dungeons as I go, I would like to try tanking and healing a shot, and it seems the paladin can do it all - so I think its a good fit. at higher levels and raids are paladins capable healers? Only time I noticed our healers running heroics last night there was a paladin that literally had to stop after each pull to get mana back - I assume it was a bad player - or just really bad gear, not sure... Sum up some questions here... 1) is leveling protection for my main talents okay/effective? 2) At higher levels are paladins as effective as the other healers? (skill/gear being equal) 3) any tradeskills that are MUST haves? JC/BS looks like decent bonus's... Thank you.Tynannx11 Apr 5, 2012