Jan 15, 2012 Skirt or no skirt for t12 transmog Any opinions? Trying to decide whether I should keep the skirt or transmog it away, or do you guys think t13 looks better?Equlas4 Jan 15, 2012
Jan 15, 2012 New to Ret pvp (have some questions) Alright so as it says im pretty new to Ret pvp, but so far ive been doing pretty good, And slowly started grinding my conquest and honor through arena and tol barad as well as the occational Bg. I have no desire to be uber competitive for arena i just want to be able to conquest cap each week without exchangeing my valor. But anyway questions Im currently running 2piece t13 in my pvp set and i want to know from current expereinced ret pallies, do you find the game play easier/enjoyable with it or is the lack of resillence really hurting you? also im trying to figure out optimal time to use my trinket(ratial) because in my 2v2s i always feel like i pop it too early and then just get cc'd again. but i also know if i dont break that intial sap/poly/younameit then my team mate is dead anyway. Any help that can be offered is greatly apreciated thank you all!Gilley13 Jan 15, 2012
Jan 15, 2012 Need help tracking down a 'mog set Okay, here's the thing. I made this pic a while back using WoW Model Viewer. But, as my graphics card is outdated crap, WMV eventually outpaced it and now I can't load anything without textures tuning into a garbled mess. So I can't track the parts down that I used to make this. Which sucks because I love how it looks and want to eventually make a transmog set from it. Only things I can recall is that I know the helm is the Fang-Deflecting Faceguard gotten by Exalted with Argent Crusade, and that I'm fairly sure some of it is PVP gear from Wintergrasp. Anyone care to lend a hand with ID here? Or, alternatively, can help me find a set that'll go well with the helm?Calberth8 Jan 15, 2012
Jan 15, 2012 Tabard I need a better looking tabard with this set. Any ideas?Rakatee5 Jan 15, 2012
Jan 15, 2012 Rate the name&transmog above you! rate how much you like their name and transmogrification!Enigmma9 Jan 15, 2012
Jan 15, 2012 Ret paladin nerf I am very disappointed with the dps for ret paladins after the deathwing sword neft. Considering to quit the game, Hope you guys have plan to level that with other classes before I give up.Dattack3 Jan 15, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 What if Vengence.... Gave us mastery rating equal to five percent (Lower optional) of our total health from Player based damage? they wanted to increase our survivability as a tank in PvP, it makes sense that our benefit from having people beating on us is a "Nou, I'm gonna take MORE BEATING." Ediandra9 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Holy Radiance double-nerfed?! Wah! First, they cut the four-piece T13 bonus on Holy Radiance from +20% to +5%. Now, they make the spell cost 14% more mana! But...but...but...but.... I liked being stupidly overpowered in big raids. It made me feel all superior and special and stuff. I could never top the healing meters before, especially if a holy priest was around. Now, I can on lots of fights, and with just one spell doing the heavy lifting. This never happened before. I'm enjoying it! When the nerf kicks in, I might actually have to pay attention to my mana bar. I might have to reach over to my cooldown keybinds and actually touch them! Who wants that? Do you know how long it's been since I've cleaned those things? I'm going to leave in a huff now. Maybe I'll punch a shaman when he rains on me. It won't do much while I'm in holy spec, right?Sithra28 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Starting a paladin.. I've recently been wanting to make a paladin in the hopes of being spec'd holy by 85. However, I can't decide whether to start as holy and dungeon run my way up, or to go prot/ret and quest. I've heard questing is much faster and so I'm not sure if its viable to go holy in the beginning. Could use some help :)Lemonàde8 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 @ Lobster I don't know you, but I think I love you.Lolbomb15 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 need help with ret/pvp ok so i like to think im pretty well geared for pvp, the problem is i dont do !@#$ for dmg. i hit for 1500crits 203crits, just really stupid numbers for my gear/level. so i would really love if some of you more smarter paladins would post some tips for me.Romarian8 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 making a tank ive been asking what should a first time tank lvl, a war or pally pretty much everyone says pally why is that? do they push less buttons then a war? i would like to know what makes a pally easier to tank with over a prot war?Wartotem7 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Looking for mid-level Holy PvP advice I have never played a Healing class in PvP that had to sit and cast. I have always done a Restoration Druid and just did the basic spam Rejuvenation + Wild Growth with a Nourish/Regrowth in their randomly. I have been enjoying Holy PvP, especially the extreme survivability, but I have been having a little bit of problem in knowing when I should be casting an actual heal or just run about waiting for another Holy Shock + WoG. Any advice would be appreciated. Also, is it worth getting the Brutal Gladiator Holy PvP set for PvE even though it lacks Spirit? I am broke, so the 'free' epic gear has been kind to me.Martau4 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Hello PvP Holy Pallies! So I'm just wondering what you guys think about PvP holy trinkets. I know its preference which one you want, but I'm curious as to what you guys use for your 2nd trinket. Atm I just have the int one from Well of Eternity (replacing it soon). Do you guys rather the other pvp trinket with resilience and a SP, or do you rather a PvE trink and if so, which one?Jotheium5 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Hot People Thread This is a thread for sexy toons (that means PALADINS ONLY). I am clearly the hottest one, but others can hang out here as well!Elysianna16 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Think I'll Survive Dragonsoul Raidfinder? Let me preface by saying I know my gear's not ideal. There's still a few pieces I can get from Twilight Heroics or with gold. That said, my buddy suggested we give it a try. I'm obviously a tank. I sit at about 180K unbuffed health and about 73% Avoidance. How hard is the LFR DragonSoul? Who wants to place bets on whether I live? Any advice? (other than get better gear/enchants)Naruuk8 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Sometimes... I lick warlocks with my tongue after subducing my sheep.Aenwyn1 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 am i do good This was a week ago, on ultraxion.Diumlol2 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Paladin Burst macro and gameplay hey paladins, I was browsing youtube yesterday and i found a guy that uses a pretty awsome burst macro, and does some paladin PvP i tought some of you might be interested to check it out, i used the macro on my paladin earlier today and i have to say that it has an awsome effect and works just fine. Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 I am geared for Dragon Soul? I was declined for a group last night (I know im 7/8 but i healed it first time, since dropped holy for prot/ret) Told my gear was !@#$, feels bad man. I usually do 28-32k DPS in LFR, i know thats 25m but i reckon i do something around 25k in 10m. Anyways, i am open to any suggestions that could make me better. ThanksRésií2 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 New to 4.3 need tips So I'm just getting back to the game after about a 3 month hiatus. My basic attack order is: Build 3 Holy power, Zealotry, Inquisition, CS, TV, Judge, CS, TV so on. I'm finding since getting back though that I'm really squishy. When is a good time to pop a Divine shield of Divine protection or is there any other way to take less damage and last longer? ThanksFaldir4 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Holy Shock Macro?! Can holy shock be made so that when i have an enemy targeted, holy shock will heal me instead of dealing damage to my target? hmm, let me update this... I'd like the macro to be able to cast holy shock on my mouseover and heal them, and when i have an enemy targeted it will heal me instead. So basically i don't really want to use Holy Shock to deal damage.. just to healSyie4 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 14, 2012 Hey Forums I've posted here before. Basically I'm hoping for a little constructive feedback on my char. If you see something odd, let me know! Thanks! *edit* ignore the terrible transmog :( anyone know of a set that might match my Tabard?Anatam5 Jan 14, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Tanking LFR I've dps'd and healed LFR and Normal since it came out but I've decided to try tanking LFR despite having some terrible items (since I've no luck with getting drops from the new heroics). Is there anything else I need to know specific to tanking except: Morchok - Taunt at 4 stacks Zonozz - Solo tank it? The ball seems irelevant in LFR and messing with it causes more problems than it helps from my experience as a healer. Yorsahj - Taunt at 4 stacks of the bolt? Or do most LFR's single tank it? What about when the Black ooze adds come - do you keep switching on 4 stacks or focus on picking up the adds? Hagara - Single tank? Ultraxion - Seems like the most problematic. Taunt when the other tank has fading light. Is DBM going to warn about this? Warmaster - Pick up melee adds. Does the order between dreadblade/otherguy matter on LFR or is the debuff gone? Spine - One tank, this one seems easy Madness - Taunt after the other tank takes an impale? Or during the impale?Tawnos4 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Reforging Is there any better other way to reforge my gear? I've tried to use the websites and stuff and fiddle around with it, but my gold's been going down. Is this an okay reforge or can I improve it?Elewood7 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 I've been thinking... I was just thinking today whilst in a bg, and I came to a funny realisation. Imagine, just for a moment, if wings and HoF were unstealable/undispellable. Then imagine going up against a frost mage as a Ret. We would effectively hard counter Frost mages. Pretty much unsnarable, a Ret has no trouble keeping up with a mage with freedom up, it just comes down to not being able to hit them hard enough because of their ice barrier. I then came to the realisation that this was most likely the very reason as to why wings and freedom remain stealable/dispellable. But it was nice thinking how close we are to being an actual counter to frost mages :)Kronìkìllz3 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 DPS in DS10/DS25 Any tips for performing better in Dragon Soul? Namely fights that are more mobile like Blackhorn and Spine. I just got back in to raiding after a LONG break. I spent a lot of time gearing, reading, etc and I don't feel satisfied with ret DPS. On a training dummy or any tank n spank type boss I can push 30k dps or more depending on raid make up. On these mobile fights in 25m DS sometimes I hit 16-25k. Other melee classes are over 30k. It's embarassing. In spine I feel like adds go down so fast I cannot even dps. I have not raided with other rets in 25m DS so I can't compare either. As you can see from my armory I am 387 ilvl (If I logged in my pve set) and hit/exp capped. Is this dmg range typical for these fights? I have not gotten yelled at or booted in pugs for this dps (not LFR raid). It's frustrating. Makkir13 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Useful Cataclysm Holy Paladin Macro's Just creating a thread to post useful Cataclysm Holy Paladin macro's Judgement #showtooltip judgement /cast [target=targettarget, harm] Judgement /targetlasttarget Holy Radiance #showtooltip Holy Radiance /cast Avenging Wrath /p COME CLOSER NOW! /cast Divine Favor /cast Holy Radiance You might want to add /use 13 and /use 14 for clicky trinkets, if indeed you have some. Feel Free to throw up your own. Malgidus10 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Avenger's Shield Missed Hi!! i need some help... i need a macro when i throwing the shield, if it miss, it yells Avenger's Shield Missed.Rálphy7 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 PVP HPally, Check my gear please hey all, i unearthed my old main and just finished getting my pvp gear set last night. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding if I should change anything to my gear I.E. Gems/Enchants/Reforging. I may be wrong but I have been going heavy crit, even reforging out of spirit to make sure crit is on every piece. I feel that was the right choice because more crit means more instant casts. If it matters at all I'll be partaking in arena more so then RBG's as my main is our guilds FC so i cant really take a dif toon. [e] and if anyone can share any good pvp spec's i wouldnt mind replacing my ret spec with a different holy oneRekkia5 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Transmog Help! I am wearing the Crusader Gear you get from the BC Rep Vendors I was wondering if there are any boots out there that would match the set Post it here and I would love you long time Healslayer1 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Manna Burn, Why is it in this game? Hello all who end up reading this, I play a holy paladin and without trying to bash anything or be the QQing player saying Blizz isn't doing their job. I really want to know Why Manna Burn is in this game at this point in the game. It comes from a class that not only can rid me completely of my over 100k manna pool and still have the manna to heal his or her party, but as a holy paladin being rid of all manna leaves me with only 3 abilities/buttons on my action bars usable. 2 of them trinkets and the third divine plea which given the priest will still have manna and plea will only give back say 25-30k manna depending on the pali, at the current cost of 8.1k a divine light and added damage to everyone around me that amount of manna literally means nothing. Which means I'm forced to blow my CDs for a short last stand hoping my DPS are competent enough. What I'm trying to say is, the spell as a video game mechanic in this type of game is quite literally the most what we call over powered spell in this game in PvP toward healers. Sure we may want to complain about lay on of hands but its unusable in arena. We may want to complain about divine shield but divine shield is mass dispelled by the same class manna burning me. I understand that I'm simply speaking on behalf of holy paladins, but as far as I'm aware it effects us the worst simply because our primary healing spell costs 8.1k manna and in pvp holy light isn't going to do anything when we're getting hit as fast and as hard as we are in Cataclysm by any class on top of risk of being silenced by all classes during casts minus hunters. Druids with out manna however hurt pretty badly and the fact that right now they're agreed by most dps classes the easiest healing class to kill since they're being nuked by most melee single handed. Shamans due to their mastery if they get a cast off its going to be gigantic unlike us holy paladins where in pve we can have a beautiful 80k crit and then a good old fashioned 28k heal from the same spell... and as a side story Blizzard Divine Lights ranging like that SHOULD NOT happen, food for thought(#changeourmasteryimo).... Also, don't respond with a simple well you guys have Holy Shock and Word of Glory. I am very much aware of what is in my spell book. I also have Gift of Naaru for anyone who wants to be technical :p. But back on topic a manna drained preist from what I've seen will go down just as hard as we will. My point is, Manna Burn in the game toward healers is literally a force NOT to be reckoned with. So my question comes down to not only why its in the game, but towards Blizzard as the game designers, theres a lot of things that seem to be in play right now but don't have any real direction as a video game should. However with Manna Burn such a long running ability, is the desired gameplay you have suposed to be there with the ability as literally to fear/hate that spell with all hearts abundance. And before anyone starts a comment with, rebuke, hammer of justice, LoS.. People please, we all who have opposable thumbs are aware of needing to do such if we have any plans/hopes of staying alive. But why such a simple spell that a disc or holy priest (OTHER HEALERS) have? The spell is literally the almighty so to speak in pvp. The largestest gigantic crutch anyone could have over myself and any other healer. And all priest playing players know as soon as they see the healer I'm just going to ignore every other ability I have and not think what do I do to kill him, I'm just going to manna burn him, mass dispell/dispell all of his cooldowns he's popping because my dpsers are nuking him while I'm feeding away his manna pool, and watch him die. Tbag his body, and emote because I'm king of the world lol... It's the same old story with this ability... All that said, ^^ raged a little, my point is made so anyone with an unbiast opinion and LOGIC and REASON if you would please give me an answer that supports not only my survivability along with other healers as in classes. But the idea of manna burn including massdispell/dispell being a combo package coming from priests, why its in this game?Tyranose37 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Change H Pally 4p bonus Change it again! Don't boost HR in any way directly, but make it so that casting HR gives a stacking affect to haste/mastery/crit depending on your highest stat. 10 stacks of 25-30 of the highest stat, lasting for 10-15 seconds. (or some number, idk) Hm?Dwargdwarf11 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 A good white/gold transmog boots I'm looking for a good white/gold or colours along those lines to transmog my boots, i'd like them to have almost the same model as the boots i'm using now. Anyone got any ideas? I already looked at the ilvl 397 valor boots none of them are to my taste.Equlas5 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Heroic Ultraxion Healing Hey. Just wanted some tips on healing H. Ultraxion in 10 man. Currently healing with a disc priest. Which orbs should I take? I've heard that h. paly's take green and blue. How does green affect my holy radiance? if it does at all. ThanksNullstone3 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Retribution vs Protection Currently leveling my paladin with quests and random dungeons as retribution. I was wondering what spec is quicker for leveling? Ret or Prot? Thanks :)Obligation11 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Prot Pally Blood DK pvp question As a person who played prot-ribution in the last expansion I understand why blizz feels they need to balance the scales and nerf blood dk's. If it is inappropriate for a person to have the surviveability of a tank and mediocry dps with the occasional 5 minute burst I just have one question. Why can a feral druid have more dps than a ret pally or any spec dk , stealth and innate tracking then at a button click enjoy allthe surviveability of a tank? (for 6 years now btw) Somehow I dont think if a ret all of a sudden just equips a shiled or a dk clicks blood presence they both become prot. If you want to nerf blood dks to keep a consistent mindset about prot pvp I am cool with that, just no more jim crow "Whites err Druids Only" schools bathrooms and water fountains.Volstagg1 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Judgement granting HP Why isn't this baseline to begin with? Instead we need to wait till a pre-expansion patch just to have something that should be in the game to begin withBarackalypse11 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Judgement Does Judgement not autotarget anymore?Raikami42 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 13, 2012 Heroic Yorsahj and HPally Talents I have set up my holy talents for this specific encounter, leaving a point out of Sacred Cleansing and putting two points into Blessed Life. I have one talent point left to spend and I'm not sure where to put it.Amorisse0 Jan 13, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 Prot Paladin LF Critique A little about me: My main is a 3/8H (5/8H exp) Holy/Disc and sometimes Shadow Priest. I'm not unfamiliar with fight mechanics or anything, so don't bash this toon's progression ;) This is my (favorite) alt. She's mainly Prot, and I tank my guild's second 10 man raiding group. It is a pretty casual one night a week group and as such I'm not expecting to bash my head against more than Heroic Morchok at the moment. The group is 7/8N (was on my Prot Warrior that night so this toon is only 6/8N). I perfer not to raid LFR as I get easily frustrated with the amount of "derp" present/my job keeps me very busy during the week and the weekend is catch-up time for the Valor grind on this character and my Prot Warrior. My concerns: While I am so easily CTC capped at the moment (2x Mastery trinket... too easy), my concern is that gemming for Stamina, as I am doing now, may not be worth it. Should I revert back to the more standard gemming protocol of Yellow = Fractured, Green = Puissant, and Red = Fine thus focusing on more Dodge or Parry for gear or is it completely viable to use Stamina as I am doing? Also, are any CTC capped Paladins who use Landslide instead of Windwalk? The extra tank damage seems clutch on certain progression encounters, not that I'm particularly faced with a Heroic Ultraxion dps check on this toon. I'm trying my best to maintain CTC cap without buffs like Battle Shout since our second group's raid comp is a bit suboptimal and at times we do not have a Battle Shout (or equivalent) in the raid. We always have Kings though! :D Any additional input in regards to spec would be lovely. I've been considering a few talent swaps, notably from the increased Judgement range to the increased Judgement critical effect in the Holy tree. Thanks for your time. <3Nehellenia14 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 Any 1h maces that looks good with Lawbringer? I'm looking for a white 1h mace, not main hand btw im not interested in (Light's Justice)Ascerius5 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 PVP trinket best in slot for PvE? Cataclysmic Gladiator's Badge of Victory Would be by far the biggest burst damage boost of all trinkets in the game. The loss of ~500 mastery would be a 2% damage loss overall but this trinket would increase damage during Zelotry by 5% over most other trinkets and that's when the damage matters. I think It would end up being a net gain. My combat breakdown: 25K outside Zelotry (100 seconds) 70K during Zelotry (20 seconds) Roughly 40% of my overall damage happens when this trinket would be activated. Mastery is peanuts when compared to strength.Capital51 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 winward heart I've tried using this in pvp after reforging to all crit. Sitting at 21% crit and its only procing once every 90seconds-2minutes Is it bugged for paladins or do I need an obscene amount of crit? Wowhead says an icd of like 20 seconds and I'm seeing nothing close to that And yes I am using this in holy paladin gear, not ret:PHammerzilla9 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 Can I get a Holler Back on my stats for PVP Not sure if I am supposed to be dumping my reforge into spirit or crit. Pretty much just mimicking my rsham as far as stats go.Gasngo2 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 RNG woes. Will i ever get a proper Ret Weapon? /sniffleAlnair12 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 HR was already hot fixed... They just didnt change it on the tier piece yet.. So the only diff you will see is the 5% increase. Your HR is at 5% now, not 20%Boxerbill1 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 4 Peice Hpally Nerf a Bit Much? "The paladin tier-13 four-piece set bonus should now increase healing done by Holy Radiance by 5%, down from 20%." I really don't understand the nerf here. I get that holy radiance is a powerful spell, but 4 peice bonuses are supposed to be extremely powerful, when comparing this to other 4 peice set bonuses it feels underwhelming. Holy radiance isn't even an all-use spell, it's only when stacking, which granted you will do a lot of. I'll list a couple other 4 peice bonuses that just seem awesome: Protection, 4P -- Reduces the cooldown of Divine Guardian by 60 sec and increases the radius of its effect by 70 yards. Hunter, 4P -- Your Arcane Shot ability has a chance to grant 30% haste to you and your pet for 10 sec. Blood, 4P -- Your Vampiric Blood ability also affects all party and raid members for 50% of the effect it has on you. Basically what the holy paladin 4 piece says is "Your main aoe heal heals for 5% more". Seems more like a 2 piece bonus than a 4 piece, and I am not nearly as excited about trying to get the set bonus on this character anymore. How do you feel about the nerf? Was it necessary and how do you feel about the current set bonus as is? If anyone has anything to share on the math behind what makes it equatable to the other tier bonuses I would love to hear it, thanks. TL;DR = 4 Peice Holy set bonus now underwhelming.Noxrid57 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 How far could you level quest as holy? Obviously speccing into talents that up your various spells damage. How far do you think it would be possible before it'd take forever to kill things?Eloraura11 Jan 12, 2012
Jan 12, 2012 4pc t13 zealotry rotation any rotation favorites? still cs filler tv? or cs tv cs tv?Recruit2 Jan 12, 2012