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48m Resto stats to aim for? I was wondering what people think optimal stats %s to aim for are. For example, I can go for 1. 25% crit, 25% haste, 111% msatery 2. 27% crit, 20% haste, 119% mastery 3. 29% crit, 19% haste, 115% mastery I mainly do M+, so I think haste can be quite nice. If you have any tips I would appreciate it.Shaipan6 48m
53m Class Mount Cant find class mount. I completed the scenario and received the mount, but after dismissing it and then wanting to summon it, it isnt in my mount log. I even looked in the spell books for the heck of it and nothing. Probably something stupid on my part but any insight would be helpful. Thanks.Taskmaster1 53m
1h Rate that transmog - Shaman! Last thread is at its limit so making a new one since I just got my artifact skin!! Let me know what you think! Rate the Shaman above youÆyéléss80 1h
1h pvp just seams so bad now why does pvp feel so much worst now then before?i can tell you im not liking pvp at all.this mite be my last re sub until next expansion.Thanen14 1h
1h Astral Recall takes you to Maelstrom? Astral Recall is a really weird and unnecessary ability since its just a second charge of Hearthstone. What if it had 1 minute cooldown and took you to your order hall, the Heart of Azeroth, instead?Jerlbays10 1h
2h Resto Shaman Legendaries Hello! I have been raiding for a while running Prydaz and Focuser of Jonat with a chain heal build. Roots pants just dropped for me last night and I'm wondering what I should do at this point. Focuser is definitely good in my chain heal build so I lean more toward dropping prydaz (if I drop anything for these), but those stats on prydaz are just insane. My real questions here is: A.) Should I just stick with what I have? B.) Should I drop prydaz and keep roots to feed cloudburst? C.) Should I drop heavy chain heal build with Focuser and go another direction with Prydaz and roots? I am currently farming heroic with my guild but we are moving into mythic soon so I want to be on top of my game and ready! Thanks for any help you guys can give me! Edit: Side note I do not have Velens yet =(Piccosham1 2h
2h Squishy ele pvp Hello, just returning to the game after a cpl years off and I'm wondering why the heck we(ele's) are so squishy? or am i missing a defensive cd or something? Is astrall shift the only wall we have now besides racial? Can we still use earth elemental totem to reduce damage with channeling or is that gone as well? Thanks much appreciated.Eksalt7 2h
5h RSHAM PVE ADVICE NEEDED! Hi guys, Only started TOS this week and haven't pve'd in a very long time. I am 925 Ilvl with half PVE gear and half pvp so it's not ideal. On mistress I did 800khps. Is this good, normal or bad for my gear and heroic difficulty? What are my main priorities as an rshaman? Chain heal doesn't even equate to 6 percent of my healing. Also can somebody list for TOS the proper talents for each boss because icy veins is incorrect when looking at logs for best healers. Also what are the bis legendaries I need? All other help and Critisism is welcome.Bensimmons2 5h
5h Fury of air Hi all. Just noticed on wclogs for enh that fury of air is taken. For ST do I just leave it on the whole time? Thx.Stormdowner9 5h
8h Restoration Naming Oddness Hi all! So I play Resto Shaman. I splash people with that sweet sweet healing brine. But as someone who grew up surfing and living on a coastline, I have to observe something. The names of some of my spells do not make me think "This will make things better", instead being names that I was raised to be cautious and wary of. Riptide springs to mind as the most prominent example, but some other spells, abilities, artifact traits, and talents that spring to mind as things that I was raised to be cautious of include: Tidal Waves Torrent Crashing Waves Deluge Bottomless Depths Pull of the Sea Tidal Pools Floodwaters Buffeting Waves And in case people missed it in the above paragraph, with it being the most prominent example: RIPTIDE. Does anybody else get these vibes, or is it just me? PS: New animations are amazing, top-notch job, Blizz, although I wonder what the point of my Glyph of Deluge is now.Gongshe1 8h
10h Artifact questlines I came back and started gearing up my shaman, I started as Elemental, and I thought I should pick up Resto/Enhancement and I can't find the quest givers anywhere. Were they moved? I asked someone from within the Class Hall to show me where they are at, and someone took me and there was no quest giver. I checked my quest log to make sure maybe that by some freak chain of events I accidentally started the quest lines but no, my log is empty aside from the new Argus stuff. Has anyone had this issue? What can I do to fix it?Hellmans5 10h
10h chain heal meme is it possible to only heal in pvp using chain heal? its a pretty iconic spell, and we have some talents that bulster it in pvp. obviously it can work in bgs, but has anyone tried doing arena with only the chain heal and its talents?Neosha0 10h
10h Fake Stopcasting delay by movement Shaman do you guys still have a slight delay from the time u hit the movement button (forward back or strafing left right) to the time it actually cancels the cast if u try to stop a cast or fake cast healing surge or wave by moving? i am still feeling this. i think the esc and /stopcasting is already fixed but not fake casting stopcasting by moving or movementJibai2 10h
12h Is Elemental Shaman worth it? Hey all! I'm currently leveling an elemental shaman (around level 105 right now) and just wanted a community opinion if you think elemental is in a good spot right now. Why or Why not? I love the elemental casting animations, the whole class identity, and I think the rotation is smooth and fun, but i'm worried about the low damage, and survivability, and lack of reliable CC which could mean being dominated in PVP. I've mained a destro warlock for quite a while now, and haven't really had any issues with it besides the fact thats its almost immobile, Anyway! Let me know please, and thanks!Toastii27 12h
12h Resto Shamans in m+ So I leveled this shaman with the intention to heal mythics. And so far i have healed up to a +8 (with a pug) and don't think I did too bad. I mean we at least beat the timer. But a few people in my guild kind of made me feel like I made the wrong choice. They were saying that they hated resto shamans in m+ and would much rather have something like a priest or paladin. I honestly wanted to call them out on that and say that i think they are wrong and that i think they are one of the better mythic healers. (None of them actually have or play a resto shaman) I really do love the resto shaman play style, like it's the only healing class that i enjoy. I was just wanting your guys's opinions on resto shamans in m+. Am i right?Krankenwägen6 12h
13h Enh Shaman Gameplay Hello all, I've noticed a lot of posts asking about enhance shaman gameplay, rotation, how it functions in raids, pvp, etc and I just wanted to share that I've started streaming. I'm currently 6/9m and 2175 in 3s arena, so I should be able to provide insight into both aspects of the game. I'll be streaming M ToS 8-11 central time tues/weds/thurs, and I'm inviting any curious shamans or potential shamans to stop by and ask questions =). 13h
13h Best Shaman names? Hey I was making a Shaman and I thought I needed some really super awesome name that is clever :D. Anyways, I wanted to share some that I have either thought of or seen and wanted to see what you guys thought were cool and funny Shaman names :) 1. Shamikaze 2. Shambulance 3. Shampoo 4. Cowwolf 5. Skywolf 6. Thunderduck 7. Thor What are some of your favorites?Skywolf440 13h
14h Also Tired of Ghost Wolf I've been noticing that I'm in Ghost Wolf form somewhere around 60% of the time, as it's instant cast and ability to use indoors makes it way more enticing than riding your mount. Because of this, it ends up having the "druid issue" where you'll never really get to look at your own character. What do I suggest? Add in a glyph that instead turns Ghost Wolf into some sort of "wind enhancement" perhaps giving your character a wind effect at their feet while still having the same function as the Ghost Wolf form. ...or at the very least add more than a wolf or a blue raptor. Those two forms don't fit into almost any of the races.Cyrus10 14h
21h Enhance 921, sub 700 DPS in raids. Just finished host heroic tonight, and as usual, I was in the mid 600 DPS range. On the order hall dummies I can do up to 1.4 million with cooldowns, tapering off to the mid 900's but in raids, I rarely see 700 DPS. On the dummies, I can concentrate totally on my bars, maintain buffs, hit everything when it's up, and generate decent numbers. In the raid, I think the problem is that when I'm constantly positioning, finding targets, / avoiding stuff, I barely notice my bars and end up just mashing keys hoping something works.. How does anyone maintain our complex "rotation" and still manage to be where they need to be in the confusion..Fugubar5 21h
23h Elemental vs Enhanced So I recently made a shammy and rolled elemental for my first legendary. I soon found I couldn't tackle very much and was extremely hard to finish the quest chain for the legendary wep. IS Enhanced any easier?Grammaw20 23h
1d is wow pvp turning into a moba? yes you have talents but thats all you have no customization on your stats.i would like to see my mastery hit 70% and fire off a ton of lava bursts procs like before legion. do you guys think with the pvp templates wow pvp is just becoming a moba.pve can customize their stats how they wish.even tho wod was a bad expansion id rahter go back to the pvp because of no templates.Thanen6 1d
1d Addon totem bars not showing PvP totems? I use flo totem bars, have forever as i dont like the clutter on my actual bars, but ive noticed since i started pvping that it doesnt appear to pick up the pvp honor talent totems and they arent on the list to show. Im assuming the addon is out of date but im not aware of any similar ones. Can anyone throw me a hint on this?Mulconroi1 1d
1d Rate the shaman name On a scale of 1-10!Harmony26 1d
1d Scepter of Tides question (lore) Hi all! So I've been playing a fair bit of Shaman in the overworld, and being the healer at heart that I always am, I run around with Sharas'dal strapped to my hip. I love Sharas'dal, it's possibly my favourite artifact in the whole game. Then it hit me. This glorious splashy club is supposed to be granting me control over all the waters of Azeroth. Now, I get why I can still be water blasted in the face by a Naga. Conflicting magics, etc etc. But why on Azeroth can I still drown while using it?Gongshe2 1d
1d Can Totem Mastery just be a passive? It doesn't cost any resource, have any cooldown or cast time, Totem Mastery for talent 1 Elemental is really annoying to have to constantly recast whenever you move, I also frequently just forget about casting it because of how passive it it. All it does is incur a global cooldown. Can't it just be a passive?Jerlbays15 1d
2d Enhancement Guide / Website Willing to try and create one. Will need a bit of help though. Anyone interested?Martenluther2 2d
2d DPS shaman :( DPS shaman have some sweet transmogs, cool lore and are even fun to play IMO. But gosh-darn are they ever uber suck compared to every other class. I figured it would get better as I got some ilvl. I'm at 882 right now after grabbing a couple of world quest pieces yet I still fear for my life if I get an accidental add while trying to kill the one I pulled. So squishy... Funny to hear ferals complain about being squishy when they just brutal slash a couple of times and all the adds die. What are we? Glass cannons? or just glass?Miresham37 2d
2d PTR Chain Heal What happened to this amazing looking spell?? Look how awesome it looked in PTR-- Who thought removing an iconic shaman color for chain heal dating back to Warcraft would be a good idea? Are they bringing it back? what's the point of deluge glyph now?Celeste8 2d
2d Shamen vs. priest healer - which is "tankier" I've got a druid and monk already. They can escape things sometimes, but I really want to roll the "tankiest" healer I can. I would have guessed that would be the paladin, with them having plate armor, but asking in that forum seems that is not the case! As between shaman and priest, which would you say is "tankiest"? ThanksPlayerVQCPYK12 2d
2d Lava burst FIXED! Player versus Player Shaman Elemental, Restoration Fixed a bug causing Lava Burst and Lava Burst: Overload to deal less damage than intended in PvP situations.Théo16 2d
2d Enh shaman feels very squishy. More than any other class/spec I play, the enhance shaman's health bar just melts regardless of what im fighting. I had hoped that artifact power into its healing would mitigate the problem like it did with elemental but its just taken my healing from being insignificant to bad. Enhance used to be an incredibly durable spec, but I feel like legion has made it into a paper tiger. I suppose I wouldnt have a problem if it was in line with other dps specs but on both my rogue and my mage I feel very durable/able to mitigate damage. Its just frustrating as every fight I feel that im getting in a race with GCD's to get my health bar back up. Since heals are basically worthless I have to spam them to get any impact, and since they suck up a lot of mana you have to spam them early so if you need a burst of heals later in the fight you have replenished the mana bar. It just feels bad and ineffective.Anjin53 2d
2d New resto animations Are terrible. Chain heal, an iconic ability, looks like a stream of dirty toilet water. Initially, we had this and I was STOKED at how awesome it looked: Can we please have this back? Make the glyph version be the exact same spell animations as above but with the old chain heal blue color. Seriously, I am really bummed that the thing I was most excited for in 7.3 was such a let down. Healing rain is alright but is hard to see, would prefer if the blue was more vibrant similar to the old animation. Healing surge and wave I can live with. Pls fix blizz. :(Shamownt30 2d
2d Shaman rp location? I' m looking for a location that would be good for a lesson on Shamanism. Help me out SHaman forum =)Tharzargus4 2d
3d ELE PVP Nerf inc Overload insta cast CL QQ inc. insta gibbing 2-3 playersMadalynn14 3d
3d Beating the curve: Sims I know forums will be flooded with questions about which dps spec to play next tier (ele vs enh), so I'm linking the current dps sims for Antorus. Remember, take it with a grain of salt... Things change. 3d
3d Target sensitive macros I want to make a macro that changes the spell depending on if I'm targetting an enemy or an ally. For example, my 1 will cast healing surge if targetting an ally, but if my target is an enemy, it'll cast thunder strike instead. Is there any format I can put in to have 4 healing spells and 4 attacking spells in the same 4 buttons?Dawnstrider1 3d
3d Heroic Avatar I need some help healing avatar. Does anyone have any tips fir healing it? I can't get above 600 hps. Any tips greatly appreciated.Drjekil5 3d
3d Earthen rage buff? Earthen rage... would it be possible to receive a small buff to this talent soon?.. I understand why it shouldn't be on par with the active talents of its tier, however it could have some amazing QoL implications.. world questing random bgs and so on.. would anyone else like to see it receive a small buff?.. besides I really dig the animation.. maybe one of the coolest around. Thanks brothers for input! P.s. thank you pvp team for fixing lava burst bug we appreciate it much.Grobbsquad0 3d
3d New resto water animations I REALLY hate the new "more realistic" water animations the resto shammy has. I miss the bright blues and my chain heal glyph is now worthless. Does anyone else agree?Dominu20 3d
3d for the it wasnt on where with elementals bolt the dos and rotation for it is it lighting ?Sathyr1 3d
4d Class hall portal loading slower? I mean when you go to the portal in Dal, not the loading screen. It used to phase in right as I got to it but I've noticed it takes longer for me since the patch. Wonder if it has anything to do with the portal to Argus. Not complaining or concerned, jw.Phumbles0 4d
4d Tired of Ghost Wolf Hard to feel epic as a ghost dog in space. Any changes coming to this soon like with the druid updates to their forms?Primalblood15 4d
4d Anyone else want humans? Title says it all. Anyone else interested in humans being able to become a Shaman?Trathos56 4d
4d I'm geared And I still get 2 shot in WPvP by people 25 ilvls below me. I know WPvP is unbalanced, but Shamans are way too squishy. I really don't get why we aren't given SOMEthing. Healing ourselves is a waste of time, our mail armor does nothing, we've got no absorbs, and our health pool is abysmal. What exactly is so bad about adding a little survivability? Is this just arena balance dragging the rest of the class down? At least raise our health pool. I passed a fury warrior with 9 less ilvls than me and nearly 2 million more HP.Phumbles12 4d
4d LAVA BURST IS BUGGED The old bug came back...lava burst is doing 75% of the dmg it is supposed to do in PvP. Noone on the US forums seems to have reported it >.>Hellgrave19 4d
4d Please return LB cast on movement From recent patch notes: Elemental continues to have strong AoE capabilities, but we want to help make their single target damage a bit more attractive why not just give back LB cast on movement? This being removed is why i pretty much stopped playing elemental (shaman altogether). I'm only barely playing it now because it's an alt I can dual-box through Argus stuff. Used to be my main...Betsylouann19 4d
4d Enhancement Shamman Guide Besides the obvious Icy-Veins. I was wondering if there is a site or google doc that is a reliable or better guide. For example rogues have Ravenholdt and a Outlaw google doc.Dún1 4d
4d Pick your favorite talents Just an exercise. I'm curious. Some talent tiers, I couldn't care less about, and some I wish I could take more than one. If you could choose any 7 current talents from your spec, with NO regard to DPS (that's right, EoE isn't mandatory) what would you choose? My personal favorites--buttons which I just enjoy pressing: TOtem Mastery Gust of WInd Aftershock (more Shocks! yes!) Ancestral Swiftness Elemental Mastery (EVEN MORE haste) Liquid Magma Totem Storm Elemental (30 sec is better than 1 min, remember when we had that glyph?) Honorable mention: Lightning Rod, Icefury, Ancestral Guidance.Esteemed6 4d
4d Enhancement Discussion/Class Development *****I have been playing Enhancement for 12+ years. This thread is intended for positive class balance and seeing that our favorite spec is developed in the right direction for future expansions and gameplay.***** I believe we are in a good place right now. The rotation is really fun, we have decent mobility, and our AOE feels like it is in a good place. We are a mid pack single target DPS at best. Our AOE is decent but shouldn't be better than Elemental. I really think we need more damage. I'm pretty geared and the maximum amount of DPS I can pull is like 1.2mil single target and maybe 2mil on AOE. Which is not bad but it's just not preferable. I get declined from groups regularly because why take an enhance shaman when there are demon hunters, death knights, and warriors. They pull way more dps and you can't use the excuse that they are purely DPS because they are also hybrid classes. Melee is already kind of a liability because there is a false pretense that this type of playstyle is harder to manage in high level content for healers and that they die more to mechanics. The numbers just seem really lackluster for how powerful I feel using these abilities. We have always been glass cannon burst with lackluster sustain. I feel like our survivability needs tweaking even if it was something baked in like passive damage reduction or maybe they could reintroduce and rework Shamanistic Rage as a talent instead of Ancestral Swiftness. Back in the day, this used to reduce mana cost (I believe?) as well as providing another damage reduction. I think we can do better. Right now as a talent, I've always hated Ancestral Swiftness because of how bland it is, a flat stat boost does not feel good when you're choosing a TALENT. Why not give a real talent? Shamanistic Rage 2 minute Cooldown All damage taken reduced by 30% and successful melee attacks have a chance to reduce the cost and global cooldown of your next ability by 50%. 15 second duration. This would be interesting because rather than buffing our damage or giving us flat haste, we could effectively be more involved in our rotation, the change to reduce Global cooldown of our next ability means that we could spend MP faster at a reduced cost and put out more damage but have it be personal rather than class X gets X% buff on all their abilities. People who react and play better should be better. We know Blizzard loves to bake in defensives with damage boosts so I believe this would fit right in with that situational usage they want us to decide on. Even if you don't want to add this as a talent I still think it would be a good ability to implement to Enhancement AND Elemental in SOME iteration. I think it's good to homogenize every class so that everyone is on an equal playing field and Blizzard obviously stands behind this philosophy, they've been doing this for years. However, I believe personal experience and how well YOU play should give you the edge. It's common sense, it is natural. If you are better you should noticeably feel like you're DOING better. Another thing I would like to see personally, please just take away Mana, all spells should be exactly like healing surge, after a certain amount of maelstrom the spell cast should be instant but they shouldn't be limited by a *now* secondary resource that is essentially just clutter. Removing mana would make Healing Surge much more powerful and contribute to our survivability in a balanced way, trading DPS resources for survivability is smart. At this time, mana is used for Healing Surge, Hex, and Purge? Hex should still be cast but after a significant amount of MP should be instant cast, it already has a CD, so adding this would give the Shaman a choice, I can instantly hex someone but it's going to cost a massive chunk of my resources. In PvP this would be a good change, because it would reduce our burst capabilities while giving us more balance and versatility. Giving these choices to a player makes the game and the class more enjoyable and challenging. Purge should not cost mana but should just be on a charge system with a set recharge time like Rockbiter. It is situational and strong. You should need to consider WHEN to purge rather than just spam until your mana runs out. The recharge time doesn't need to be long and by costing MP it could balance itself out, you just used Rockbiter to generate MP well Purge will cost as much as Rockbiter generated. You need to choose between your utility or saving MP for that DPS output. This is just a few of the things we can do, what changes would you like to see for enhancement? Please help me create a civil discussion.Funky24 4d