Nov 14, 2018 [PvE] Useful Warlock Resources ...This thread is a compilation of sites useful for understanding Warlocks, learning and improving, tools to analyse your play in raids and so on (adding more as more useful sites surface). It also goes into some detail on how to look through logs from Warcraftlogs in order to spot basic problems in aid of analysing your play. ... Lock One Stop Shop https://lockonestopshop.com Basically the Warlock bible and should be your first stop when picking up Warlocks or starting to improve your play. Contains guides for all specs written in collaboration with several theorycrafters, sim data on talent combinations, trinkets and azerite traits, all maintained by said theorycrafters and other prominent Warlock players. Links to some streams of prominent Warlocks, both focusing on PvE or PvP, as well as home to large posts of feedback from Ghaddo, which is a good read. ... Lock Discord https://discord.gg/BlackHarvest Discord run by Tibles, Ghaddo and Motoko foir the Warlock Community. Huge hub of discussion about each spec, dedicated text channels for asking for help and pvp, etc. Definitely a good idea to keep an eye on for pins in each spec channel for important posts marked by the mods, as well as just discussion involving theorycrafters and top players. ... Raidbots https://www.raidbots.com/simbot A site that uses SimulationCraft to present an easy to use simulation tool. Allows you to simulate characters by its armory or using a SimC string to compare talents, generate stat weights or comparing and/or finding the top gear based on a SimC string. ... Warcraft Logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ The most popular WoW log site for raiding, with a growing M+ section. Crucial tool for analysing your own raid performance and understanding how other players are playing well. Also a very handy tool for seeing what talents specs typically take, which specs are being typically played on certain encounters, as well as the general performance of the class/specs compared to all others (which you should take with a grain of salt when trying to improve). ... WoWAnalyzer https://wowanalyzer.com/ An analysis tool for Warcraftlogs logs. Helpful for getting some general pointers on individual logs and presenting a lot of the raw information contained in a given log in a more concise and consumable format. ... Wowhead https://www.wowhead.com/ Huge site for your general WoW needs. Not specific for Warlocks, but has a lot of general information on raids, dungeons, etc, a shareable talent calculator, the Azerite Finder for searching for gear with specific traits. Also a great resource for PTR updates and the like.Aldeen287 Nov 14, 2018
Oct 25, 2018 Warlocks - Your class needs you! Thread List V0.71 I think it might be pertinent to keep a record of all threads supporting the cause of Warlocks having a fair crack of the whip or at the very least some response to the growing concerns. This is merely a starting point. If I have missed your thread, one you have seen or you feel a thread included does more harm than good please comment below. NEW UPDATE: Further to recent posts in this bread I will add new suggestions in this section: Blizz you owe warlocks an apology. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759262165 Significant Rework of Demo in Bfa https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759495907 Demonology Changes https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759162485 List of Bad decisions about Warlocks https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759147063 Demo feels awkward. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20757707315 Warlocks-fun and good ideas for demo https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758226616 My only advice for Demo Rework https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759386670 Make Demonology Great Again https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759237339 This expansion turning into a JOKE https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759168385 MoP Vs Legion Warlock, Which did you enjoy? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758837845 Demonic Empowerment has to Go https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749305603 Felguard pet needs a new skin https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749837174 Demonology being fixed? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758708558 Battle for Azeroth Demo Design https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759387936 What would u like to see on demo in BFA? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759606343 Threads concerning the collation of warlock issues: Calling mechanics masters! All specs: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748845055 [Legion] Compilation of Suggestions/Bugs: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748805127 Unified Tuning Feedback: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748765378 We did it!: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748704898 THIS IS DEFLATE COMPRESSED VERSION OF OLD THREAD INDEX TO SAVE SPACE Quick link to uncompressed content here: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748645930?page=9#post-163 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 DECOMPRESS HERE: http://www.txtwizard.net/compression ARCHIVE OF POST @0.69 HERE: https://pastebin.com/ucjYKgV6 https://web.archive.org/web/20171120155628/https://pastebin.com/ucjYKgV6 The purpose of this is to allow you, the concerned Warlock, to have a quick reference to threads which MAY get the attention of Blizzard. Please constructively contribute to these threads. Again, there will be threads I have missed. I will of course add relevant threads to the master list as they are provided. Addendum: PvE guides (I think this may prove helpful to some and give these threads the attention they deserve) Affliction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747875438 (Cryptrot) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/affliction-warlock-pve-dps-guide Demonology : http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748656161 (Nakkiel) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/demonology-warlock-pve-dps-guide Destruction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745707140 (Aldeen) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/destruction-warlock-pve-dps-guide Warlock Web Resources: Lock One Stop Shop http://lockonestopshop.com/#!/Home Change log: 0.71 Added a few more relevant threads. 0.7 Text compression used to save space. Post as of 0.69 archived. 0.69 Stardate 20/11/2017, Earth. Added new section of new suggestions. Will look at compressing old sections to save space in post. 0.68 Added web resources section, starting with Lock One Stop Shop 0.67 Added A long rational post about Affliction 0.66 Added Class Fantasy, and why we should Tame Demon Added Demon Variety and Customization 0.65 Added An In-Depth Look at Affliction 0.64 Added ~Warlock Dev Hotfix Suggestions Thread~ 0.63 Added To Ion: From Affliction Warlock Added Hotfix thread 0.62 Added On current and future Warlock design Added Warlock Changes. A constructive thread. 0.61 Added Observations from an 838 AFF warlock 0.6 Added EU Warlock forum threads where appropriate, same provisos apply 0.54 Added A list of what we have lost these last years Added Icy Veins PvE guides 0.53 Added Demonology changes hurt class fantasy. 0.52 Added Unified Tuning Feedback 0.51 Added [Legion] Compilation of Suggestions/Bugs 0.5 Added section concerning issue collation Sorted content alphabetically - should have done this from the start :D 0.44 Added Warlock Feedback! Attention Please 0.43 Added Legion PvP feedback section and included linked threads 0.42 Integrated Baalsamael post in format consistent with OP 0.41 Added Calling all Warlock Voices 3 0.4 Added Baalsamael post Added A Treatise of Destruction 0.34 Added Cancelling My Subscription 0.33 Added Short Analysis of Warlocks from Cata to now 0.321 Fixed categorization error 0.32 Added Where are these comments on hotfixes? 0.31 Added Calling All Warlock Voices 2 Added How I thought Demonology was gonna work 0.3 Added Demonology PvE guide 0.25 Added Mop Destro vs WoD/Legion 0.24 Added Destruction Warlocks in Legion 0.23 Added [FEEDBACK] Problems with Warlock Animations Added Legion Beta General Discussion Sub-forum section 0.22 Added Warlock Nerf List 0.21 Added PvE guides 0.2 Not Happy With Demo ATM - A Rant addedPoynty176 Oct 25, 2018
Feb 11, 2018 [Still True] Guide to Logging Introduction Due to the recent patch and the changes that Warlocks, among other classes, have undergone, people are now more than ever concerned about how they are performing. I believe that the best way to evaluate performance is in evaluating your logs--and, without knowledge of how to analyze logs, or how to log, that's impossible. This guide should cover those sufficiently and allow interested players to improve their performance, or, if they would prefer, ask for help. Foreword Please feel welcome to dispute anything posted. I am very dedicated to making an accurate guide that keeps up with all the newest theorycrafting, and to that extent, I will be doing my best to keep up with recent information--but nobody is perfect. Table of Contents 1 - How to Log-1: WarcraftLogs -2: Downloading/Running Logs -3: Known Bugs 2 - Guide to Reading Logs-1: The Interface -2: The Tabs 3 - How to Evaluate Performance Using Logs-1: Basics -2: Destruction -3: Affliction -4: Demonology 4 - Conclusion-1: Afterword -2: Help with Evaluation Guide to Navigating the Thread: If you want to jump to a specific section in the thread, use Ctrl-F and type in the section number, then a dash, then the subsection number. For example, if I wanted to jump to the Known Bugs section, which is in Section 1, and is Subsection 3, I'd type "1-3" into Ctrl-F! ... 1-1: WarcraftLogs WarcraftLogs (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/) is a World of Warcraft fansite dedicated to hosting interactive combat logs and fight rankings for current and past raids in WoW. It is commonly used, to great effect, to evaluate how well someone is performing compared to other players of their spec and to optimal play. By the end of this guide, it is my belief that you will both understand how to evaluate logs and why we evaluate logs. -Why Warcraft Logs? Warcraft Logs is a lot more user-friendly and in-depth than World of Logs--not to mention that its developers (who I am wholly unrelated to) are continuing to update and build on its foundation, where World of Logs, to my knowledge, is remaining stagnant. 1-2: Downloading/Setting Up the Logs Client The WarcraftLogs website is fairly self-explanatory with regards to setting up the client, but in any guide for log analysis must be a guide for actually logging. I've broken it down into a 3 step system. 1: Go to https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ 2: Find this [ http://puu.sh/dxBDb/3fed32d7d1.png ] section--it's in the upper right-hand corner of the home screen. Click "Sign Up," and make an account! 3: Now that you're logged in, go to where you clicked "Sign Up"--your username will have replaced that option! Click your username, and a dropdown menu will appear. Select "Download Client" and install it! Then, start the client on your computer while playing WoW. This window should appear: [ http://puu.sh/dTL5x/25b02f7b54.jpg ] From there, hit Live Log, and you'll arrive at this screen: [ http://puu.sh/dTLcR/ad07786613.jpg ] Then, if you wish, you can select what page to record your logs on (the default, as you can see, is Personal Logs), and click go! Then, all you need to do is enter World of Warcraft, enter "/combatlog" and raid! All the combat you're doing is now being recorded in real time to Warcraft Logs, where it can be analyzed. When you're done, simply type "/combatlog" again in-game to stop recording combat logs, and click "Stop" on the client! Advanced Combat Logging: In game, to enable Advanced Combat Logging, access the main menu (usually by clicking escape), select System, select Network, and check the boss for Advanced Combat Logging. 1-3: Known Bugs Sometimes, when attempting to log, the client will record nothing, or state "Error - Bad Line". While this is not intended, it is more common than isolated--it can be fixed by simply restarting logs. ... 2-1: The Interface The WarcraftLogs interface is intuitive and user-friendly. An example of a log is one of my Personal Logs, found at [ http://tinyurl.com/k66hywk ]. I will be using this log for the purposes of demonstration throughout this guide. [ http://puu.sh/dxCDv/bb44cf32ef.png ] The image above is what you will first see when reading a log. The first page it shows you (the one shown) is a summary of the various measures of performance recorded by the service. Each of the different tabs (Damage Done, Damage Taken, Healing) will take you to a page that details each individual type of performance. These will be covered in the following section. The Graph The Graph can be manipulated and modified to display only certain data--whether you wish to focus on a specific player, a specific damaging mechanic, or a specific portion of the fight. To access a specific portion, simply click and drag from one end of the graph you'd like to observe to the other--it'll automatically display only the information from that slice of the graph. To display a specific player or mechanic, simply select that option from one of the tables below the graph. The Options The options, located in the upper left hand of your screen, will look similar to these [ http://puu.sh/dxD8d/4b43537a58.jpg ]. Each of the selections (The Butcher, All Friendlies, etc.) have a small arrow to their right--indicating the presence of a dropdown menu. You can select these to choose which boss you would like to observe (selecting The Butcher, in this case), which kill of that boss (if there is more than one in a log), or which player/enemy you would like to observe (selecting "All Friendlies" in this case). Views Located just below the graph are three tabs: Tables View, Events View, and Fight Analysis. Tables View provides the standard table of values--useful in other sections for viewing uptimes, percentages, and other numeric values. Events View simply lists each combat log event by time, useful for determining specific cast orders or time between events. [ http://puu.sh/dxDDd/b792b43c05.png ] Fight Analysis is a handy, automatic, mechanics analysis of the fight. It's useful for determining who caused wipes, or what went wrong on a kill. 2-2: The Tabs Damage Done: This is likely your primary tab of interest. When evaluating warlock DPS, it is one of the main two tabs that you will actually be interested in. When you click this tab, it will default to taking you to a screen similar to the summary--a graph, with a tables view of Damage Done and DPS beneath it. [ http://puu.sh/dxDS9/076101ed08.png ] From here, you can observe how your DPS is compared to the rest of your raid for the fight. However, for evaluation, we must look at the specifics. From there, you would click on your name from the tables view--which would take you to a tables view of your abilities used and damaging effects. [ http://puu.sh/dxE0m/b583e10694.png ] Damage Taken This tab is similar in nature to Damage Done, but displays Damage Taken instead. You can use it to determine uptimes of damaging debuffs and other effects in the same manner you would with Damage Done. It is, however, not entirely relevant to evaluating Warlock DPS (very useful to determine who's draining your healers' mana, though!) Healing This tab is similar to both Damage Done and Damage Taken, but again, deals with healing and healing buffs instead. Useful to determine how much you're healing for with self-heals, but not relevant to DPS. Buffs For Warlock DPS analysis, the Buffs tab will be fairly invaluable. It is a graph -- which is less interesting than the preeceeding tabs' graphs -- and a table containing the uptimes of Damage, Defensive, Healing, Movement, and Raid buffs, in addition to stances and unknown buffs. The reason it's important to Warlocks is not to determine if someone had buffs--but to determine how they're reacting to Trinket Procs, using Dark Soul, using their potions, or even Fire and Brimstone in some situations. If you click on a particular player, it will take you to a screen similar to this one: [ http://puu.sh/dxEIj/ae75429356.png ] Debuffs This tab is less important than the others in terms of DPS analysis, but functions similarly to buffs--but with debuffs. Deaths This tab simply displays deaths and the time leading to those deaths--it can be invaluable in determining who is at fault for a given death. Interrupts This tab displays all interrupts used and can be used to fix issues in interrupt orders in raids. Dispels This tab displays dispells and can be used to determine which player is dispelling the most, or if someone dispelled something they were not meant to. Works for both Offensive and Healer dispells. Resources This tab allows you to view resource expenditure/generation over a fight. It can be used for Demonic Fury, Burning Embers, and Soul Shards and displays raw gain, wasted amount, and net gain. Casts This tab displays number of casts, time spent casting, et cetera. It's especially useful to assist in correcting an opening sequence or observing a particular set of casts (such as a Hand of Gul'dan 2-stacking mishap). Summons Shows all pet, minion, guardian, and demon summons throughout a fight. Replay This feature can show the positioning of players throughout a given fight provided the logging player is using "advanced combat logging," an option found in-game. ... 3-1: The Basics Before you evaluate each given spec, it's helpful to know what kind of things you're going to be looking for. -DoT/Debuff Uptimes: You are going to be looking through the Damage Done section of a Warlock's spellcasts, looking for Damage over Time or other debuffs effects such as Immolate, Corruption, Haunt or Doom. Different DoTs or Debuffs will call for different uptimes. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGe8/43d53f1d91.png ] -Cast Ratios: You may also be looking for ratios of one spells' casts to another. This can be done very easily by looking at the casts column and checking numbers. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGkX/81bd70a89b.png ] -Buff Usage: All specs have some degree of resource pooling for certain procs or cooldowns. You will be comparing the amount of certain buffs cast, such as Dark Soul or on-use trinkets, the times that randomly proccing trinkets activate, and more to determine how effectively someone is using their spells. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGsY/f960820817.png ] WAITING FOR 7.2.5, WILL UPDATE SOON! ... 4-1: Afterword I am not the best Warlock, and I accept this--however, I am passionate about this class, and intend to go forward in WoD with stronger progression and theorycrafting than before. I especially hope that I can help new or returning Warlocks--or even experienced Warlocks who want to brush up on their play--improve and perform better as time goes forward. 4-2: Help with Evaluation If you'd like for a more experienced Warlock to look over your logs and provide their insight, simply post a link to the logs and some basic background information in the thread below. There is a great number of experienced, skilled, and helpful Warlocks around who enjoy doing just that!Hedo110 Feb 11, 2018
Oct 26, 2010 Welcome Warlocks: Please Read! Welcome to the Warlock forum! This forum is here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss the warlock class with your fellow World of Warcraft players. Community forums work best when participants treat their fellow posters with respect and courtesy, so we ask that you take the time to read through the forum Code of Conduct (http://us.battle.net/en/community/conduct) and guidelines (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15252595157) before posting. Important Reminders: Search The search function at the top of the World of Warcraft community site is extremely effective and robust. Before you create a new forum topic, please be use it to search for similar topics, blog posts, or web pages that may contain the answer for which you are looking. Making a new thread on an existing subject can result in your thread being deleted or, if you continue to re-post the same content, the loss of your forum privileges for spamming. Rating The forum rating system can be used to promote positive discussion, demote unhelpful comments, and even report posts that violate the forum Code of Conduct. By hovering over a post you'll be presented with several options, including a "thumbs up" (Like) and a "thumbs down" (Dislike) icon. Clicking the "thumbs up" icon will rate the post up. If enough people like a post, it will gain a Highly Rated status and appear at the top of related search results. Highly Rated posts will also have a highlighted background. Clicking the "thumbs down" icon will expand a drop-down menu which will include "Dislike," "Trolling, "Spam" and "Report" options. "Dislike" will rate the post down. If enough people dislike a post, it will be darkened, and with a lot of dislikes it will be hidden completely. You can also quickly report a post as trolling or spam, or use the report function to fill out a more comprehensive description of a violation. Please note that you can only rate each post once. Use your power wisely to help foster a positive and helpful forum community. Have fun posting on these forums, and good luck with your adventures in Azeroth!Lylirra1 Oct 26, 2010
Nov 15, 2018 DEMO LOCK PLEASE FIX US!!!! I am sick of clogging on and !@#$ting %^-* about the spect i pay..... WHY cant hand of hufan be changed? lets say i have a 1 shatrd hand, thats houyld cat in 2 second, 2 shoard should b 3 seconds and 4 shards should be instant!, it cuts utto myy rotation ALOT,,,," \ Our Shadowbox awe wej, tyrand is barly notibalee, damage and enctending pets. ljust look t the aff cd pet....\ demonbolts are lackluster, shadowbolts may as be wand propcs..... thee things NEED TO BE BUFFED ESPECIALLY THE HANDOF GULDAL LIKED SUGESTED..\ THE MOST FUN IN THE GAME, YET I GET KNOCKE DBACK FROM M_ KEYS WITH 370 LVL..... VVUFFUBF THE IMPS AN D TYRANT HELPS, BUT WE ENBEED BUFF TO SHADIWBOLTS AND DEATHBOLTS ALSO ALSO, WHY DDO ALL PRPOFESSIONS HEY 385 GEAR ABD HIUGHER IN PANTSM WHAT TTI ENBNCHANTIGNG TO>>>> HOW ABOUT SOME LOBE, CAISE OUR REWORK WAS BOUT IN UNDERPOPOWERED AND WE STILL SRENT FIX,..... AMD IF IT ISNT FIXED SOON I HAVE NOI CHOICE BU T TO UNSUB, I DONT NEED THE CONSYND TRITIQUEL ND GETTIN KICKED FROM m+ CAUSE A PERCEPTION DEMO IS !@#$,,,,,, please fix themSchmerzlock2 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 How do you feel about Blueberry? Personally, I hate him (it?). I’ve always had a warlock as my main alt since Vanilla and I’ve never understood why the voidwalker is a warlock pet. First off, they are not demons, they are void aberrations and as we learned in Legion the void is the antithesis of fel as much as it is of the light. Second, visually they just don’t fit, at all. This wasn’t as much as an issue when we could have infernals (I’ve always played destro and that has always been my dream pet) as a permanent pet but now I really miss it and hate having to use that ugly blue blob when doing solo content. Why can’t felguards be baseline and replace voidwalkers especially now that there are so many more demon models and a unique one can be given to demonology locks? Or better yet, why not take a page out of other games’ books and allow any pet to perform any role? I am sure hunters would love that too. Thoughts?Kerathras18 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 When’s the best time to use curse of frag As destro and as affliction? I haven’t used this spell much so I don’t have exp with it but I always feel like I’m using it the wrong way or at the wrong time. Like for destruction do I use it as I’m casting bolts like right after CB cast ends but before it hits the target or should I use it before casting my big dmg? For affliction would I do it after I have all my dots up? This is assuming there’s a time curse of frag is viable so it might not be right now but if it were I wanna know how to use it properly & what the worst case scenarios are like if I time it wrong does that cause less pressure or anything? Pvp question btwHishamaru10 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Warlock demo dps raids So I’m leveling my demo lock and in raids I’m normally around 2-5 in dps mostly top 3 but I feel like I can be doing more. I’m currently 355 in item lvl and it’s saying I’m supposed to do around 19k on raidbot. In dungeons I’m doing like 15-17k but in raids i can’t hit over 12k in boss fights in normals but the top guy is doing like 12k. Does more people effect your dps bc more people are playing? Also will affliction put out more dps than demo at the moment?Johnnyloko3 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Very long post, mains Good afternoon all, this post is towards warlock affliction mains who take time to analyze and correct their mistakes , and can take about 15 minutes to help me out and provide constructive criticism , it’s going to be a long post, so you may want to leave right now if you can’t read this all. I’m a 373 affliction warlock 3/8M , who does weekly >10+ mythic chest, has horrible azerite RNG, and is currently rolling with 1x archive , 1x cascading calamity , and 1x sudden onset, aiming for archive, wracking brilliance and dagger in the back for raids, but suggestions are greatly appreciated. In my toolkit I have like 7 shoulder pieces lol my luck, all with sudden onset or inevitable demise, my chest piece has archive so that stays, and as far as head piece I have another archive and sudden onset lol. I’ll start by telling you what I did wrong, and areas that I need help with, but I’ll provide log link for zek mythic kill if you’d like to look through it and help me. To start everything off , I began progressing on zek voz Tuesday, for about an hour or so, analyzed my logs on mother and Taloc as well, my dot uptime was below 70% , cast downtime >50% very bad, missed a lot of casts for certain abilities. In the zek voz 6 minute kill I looked it over so base this on YESTERDAYS zek voz kill (I’ll provide link) I improved a lot, doy uptime >90% , missed 1 darkglare, dark soul cast and my downtime was 20% so improved a lot. I know how to properly use dark glare , dump UAs and refresh dots dark then death bolt etc, my grey area is right after that when things slow down I suppose, I space my UAs to benefit entirely from 10% damage buff, I missed a lot of death bolt casts BUT typically I try to time at least one UA and use deathbolt right after while my current UA is about to expire, so should I just use right off CD, wait for a UA and miss maybe an extra cast or just off CD, would the dps loss be significant? Cast dark soul off CD? Same with darkglare? Cast darkglare off CD with however many UAs I currently have? Or let darkglare sit for a bit and wait for my full dark soul, dots, UA Dump, dark glare, death bolt wombo combo and maybe give up another darkglare I COULDVE gotten? That’s my troubles. My parse was !@#$, every guild/group will have diffferent strategy for example I was pulled aside and told to strictly focus zek, besides my AoE is relatively weak compared to other classeS, so I ended up doing 16K dps with barely to none AoE, I was top 3 for boss parse which was great also parse for %ilvl also great. If you’ve stuck around this far I appreciate you, please I’m asking for you to help me find my mistakes I do want to improve and take my parses serious. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/P9ptHQXMY1bcWk7mLockmanbry10 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Chaos Bolt was more fun in WOTLK In WOTLK, it was a 2.5 sec cast without any haste. Currently, it's 3 seconds. The long cast time is no fun. I'd rather have it reduced .5 seconds, and then have its damage reduced accordingly so that DPS is similar in the end, provided ideal circumstances (free casting). Throw in Conflag cast reductions, and it becomes soooo much more fun to use.Shredmywheat8 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 The Shame about Zandalari The real pity is they literally just need to flip a switch to make Zandalari Warlocks. Its not like they have to do special coding or anything. Its just total BS. Also for anyone who thinks Zandalari arent connected to the Fel. Look up Demoniacs Literally Zandalari Warlocks.Ithil27 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Destro Azerite Traits What traits are the best for us. Not sure I can trust icyveins.Ågnarr2 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Polite Request for Demon Customization As warlocks we LOVE our demon pets! And with the current glyphs we have a lot of options! The models are all pretty decent. We're happy! But you know what's really fun? Collecting two handed weapons for the Wrathguard/Felgaurd. It's fun because it's CUSTOMIZATION!! It's honestly addictive. Can we please please please get more demons, more demon color options, more demon glyphs - more opportunity to customize our beloved pets? Thanks so much!!!Alsandar12 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Fastest leveling spec Ill be honest ive never really tried Demonology even on my mains, always preferred destro and aff as off spec, but im curious which would allow me to level faster on this alt?Zerisanda10 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 15, 2018 Demonology I Admit I never really liked the Warlock class But I wanted to Give it a good go (the Last time I tried it was like Wrath) I am currently Doing Demonology. And the play Style feels amazing. I actually feel like a demon summoner with all the cool imps and other demons it feels like a good horde Spec (not the faction)I so far Really Like what Blizzard has done with it so far (at lest ascetically speaking) but I was wondering how is it at end game/ 120? Is it a good spec for raiding/pvp or?Ruza10 Nov 15, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Blues, i need closure Can Zandalari be warlocks?Beamin10 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Warlock on Rezzing [?] Warlock : Rezzing Others? I have played my warlock and never had anyone ask me to rez until yesterday. I was asked to rez someone who died in a dungeon. Honestly have never been asked this before with this toon....my question is....can a warlock rez/bring back to life another player? If so, which class? [I've been to icy veins & googled this issue with no good clear answer]Eriel4 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Make Shadowburn an execute again this new shadowburn feels terrible to use, it's a movement spell that does almost as much damage as destro's filler spell. (basically, a worse fel flame) what happened to sniping with havoc and shadowburn? that was lots of fun. pls blizzard.Zalgo13 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Demo dps in raids So I’m leveling my demo lock and in raids I’m normally around 2-5 in dps mostly top 3 but I feel like I can be doing more. I’m currently 355 in item lvl and it’s saying I’m supposed to do around 19k on raidbot. In dungeons I’m doing like 11-13k against mobs and sometimes more if my cooldowns are all up but in raids i can’t hit over 12k in boss fights in normals but the top guy is doing like 12k. Does more people effect your dps bc more people are playing? Also will affliction put out more dps than demo at the moment?Lexiom3 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 <Deathnote> 3/8M 6Hrs Wk LF Locks for CE Server:Kel'Thuzad [A] Raid Times Sunday 8:30pm - 11:30pm MST (10:30pm-1:30am Eastern) Monday 8:30pm - 11:30pm MST (10:30pm-1:30am Eastern) *Off night carries/alt clears Tuesday (10:30pm-1:30am Eastern) Current Prog - 3/8M, 8/8H, 8/8N, M Vectis 19% - Full Repairs - Flasks, Feasts & Runes Provided - 15k-25k gold each off night carry run - DPS Pots provided on some content Immediate Openings - Warlocks & other Ranged DPS - Arms Warrior - Any good quality players that can make raid schedule About Semi-hardcore guild on a lite 2 night schedule. Formed early legion and progressed through Mythic. Guild full of mid to late twenties early thirties players, college students & parents. We will attempt to get CE on each tier. We run a roster of 23-26 to avoid attendance issues + stack classes for fight needs. Activities Gambling PVP/RBGS Gold Carries M+ Key Pushing Recruiting Post in our recruitment thread on https://discord.gg/7ZtVTDN or add me Robbilee#1782 so we can get in contact with you.Vvheelchair1 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Was this a mistake? Mage vs Warlock. I can see the benefits and disadvantages of both. What do yall think.Kranx17 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Congrats to Locks: #1 At Blizzcon Arena Games The #1 (and only) class not represented in any of the matches. Good job all! Let's keep up the good work!Echellon20 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Demo 8.1 Good Morning, I am not a Demo player and never even tried it but with the Buffs Heading its way in 8.1 im wondering how they will look for Mythic + With a Warlock our cleave is quite poor and for higher cleave a lot of people want different classes, With Demo being better with the AoE will this buff help?Blythyie10 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Rate that transmog 2.0 Last Thread maxed out. Rate that mog!Affriction230 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Make Drain Soul Baseline? I was recently playing around with talent builds on my aff lock and discovered that choosing drain soul actually netted me a DPS loss vs not using a level 15 talent at all. After looking at the tooltips for these spells on wowhead its now obvious why this is the case. Shadowbolt does damage equal to 45% of spellpower with a 2 second cast time. Drain soul does damage equal to 75% of spellpower with a 5 second cast time. Shadowbolt DPS as a % of spellpower: 45%/2 = 22.5% Drain soul DPS as a % of spellpower: 75%/5 = 15% Unless I am totally misinterpreting this here, choosing DS is always going to be a DPS loss, even with talents like shadows embrace or haunt since SB benefits from these as well. It seems redundant to have a talent that literally hinders your ST dmg vs not choosing a talent point at all. I mean at the very least choosing a talent should not be a loss vs not choosing any talents. If the only advantages of DS are shard sniping and execute damage, I feel like this is too situational to be on the same talent tier as deathbolt and also replace a filler that does more ST dps by default. Too many losses, barely any gains. So why not just make DS a baseline spell for affliction warlock (not a replacement for shadowbolt, have DS be a separate spell)? I think it would add some interesting variation to the gameplay mechanics too (sniping shards, switching filler during execute phase)Gnåstygnorc19 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Nether Portal should be instant Just like Affliction's Darkglare, Nether Portal is a long cooldown that can be used, only it's a 2.5 SECOND CAST. Demo locks are extremely immobile, so it makes sense to make Nether Portal instant cast. It would feel very good, and it wouldn't negatively affect gameplay too much. We already have to cast Demonic Tyrant, having another long casted cooldown is just too painful.Shredmywheat1 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 What made you pick Warlock Theres a lot of Negativity floating around the warlock forums. (a lot of it is totally valid) But I was wondering, What made you pick warlock, what made you fall in love with this badass, visually stunning class? Lets take a moment to remember why we stick by this class that has for a while now, been seemingly forgotten and thrown by the wayside.Ithil36 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Demonic Gateway 160: Hi, I'm new here I dont like to stress the fact that the warlock rocks, but he just does,So, for all you staff users out there, feel free to come in and post, my staff is a good one, but here is how it goes 1. post message in the room 2. LOOK IT OVER 3. dont report anything, i might get in treble :) 4. "Eppdawg" is not allowed to cep and 5. Have fun!! and 6. keep on truckin' ganksta http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19288699802 IndexClare218 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Life Tap Please BLIZZARD!!! Our mana as Warlocks are literally like an arcane mage, we drain through that stuff in a heartbeat. GIVE US BACK LIFE TAP! There was no need to take that from us.Arnoghal22 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 14, 2018 Do you like the new Shadowbolt? Or do you prefer the old fashionated skull boltOswill20 Nov 14, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 is demo ever going to be good Are you even going to fix and buff demo warlocks or just still make them complete trash and make it so no one wants to play them?? just take them out of the game and make a new warlock spec if your going hate on demo so god dam muchOccullis36 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 @L27, Void pet not much of a tank? I soloed a lock to L110 about 4 years ago. Leveling up I relied on my Void pet to do the tanking for me while I administered the damage. Well, I decided a few weeks ago to return to the game and started a new Afflic. lock who is now L27. What I notice is that the void pet takes a LOT of damage each fight requiring healing or sometimes a new pet before going on to the next mob. I don't remember what HPs my L110 lock's void had back in the day, but today it's 70% both for my L110 and my new L27 . It has been a number of years since I have played, and I can barely remember what I had for breakfast today never mind 4 years ago, but it seems to me that I didn't have to worry a lot about the pet's health during single mob battles. I remember when a quest required an item guarded by several mobs sending the pet in to aggro the mobs giving me time to loot the required item and run out of harms way. The void pet back then was considered a warrior in terms of armor and durability. Of course, the devs have no doubt wielded the nerf wand throughout the game over the time I have been absent. I only play solo questing, not interested in groups at all. Does the Void pet become a tanking pet at some point? And if so, when? Thanks for your replies.....Scruffies7 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 Do you use wands? I did heroic Uldir tonight and got a 370 wand off Taloc, figured I'd come here and ask before scrapping in case you do. Right now I'm using a dagger and an offhand. I remember way back in the day we had range slots, but now it goes in your mainhand. Is it worth keeping or is it trash?Orienn9 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 My BFA Demo Warlock Experience TLDR is located at Final Thoughts STLDR located at the bottom. First, I’d like to start by thanking Blizzard for finally listening to the players of this spec and transforming it into the marvel it is now. It plays well, it flows well, and leaves options open to focus on single or AoE damage as the specialty. However… I would also like to discuss my experience of leveling from 110-120 as demonology, and then what happened at 120. The 110-115 Experience This went pretty well. I was able to hold my own, my Felguard wasn’t dying just by being looked at, my stats were holding pretty well. I didn’t worry about my damage too much in instances due to the fact that all normal BFA dungeons are open to anyone in the 110-120 range, but I was at where I expected to be. I was next to the bottom or at the bottom when dealing with higher level groups, but could reach third or second on DPS in even level or slightly higher level groups. - The Demon AI Issue - The only thing of concern that started here and persists to current is the stupidity of the demon AI. My demons both primary and secondary will only attack any target that I’ve directly attacked myself. This does not include AoE effects. That entire group I hit with my Hand of Gul’dan? Guess what? The attack only applies to the target that I sent the hand down on. If I don’t target another enemy in that group and directly attack them, then when the initial target being attacked dies, my demons will wander back over to me and wait until I directly attack something else. The only slight saving grace is that the primary demon obeys the pet attack command and can be sent to a new target. This is not so for the secondary demons. Let me tell you, nothing is more frustrating than getting control lost from your character (i.e. polymorphed into a slime, stunned and wrapped up in vines) and being unable to send the secondary demons to another target. They just stand there right next to your crowd controlled body and do nothing until you attack again. That’s a serious damage loss when our secondary demons aren’t attacking. Other than this, I didn’t see any other glaring issues. Then, I hit 115 and everything went to hell from there. The 115-120 Experience - The Diminishing Returns on Gear Stat Value - I noticed that the diminishing returns on stats while leveling from 115-120 was ridiculous. From 115-120 I had higher stat values than when I was 110-115, but was receiving less benefit from them. This effect took a heavy toll on my haste. But before we talk about that… - Felguard Appears To Have Diminished Regeneration - For whatever reason between these levels, and even currently at 120, I notice that my Felguard’s health regenerates incredibly slowly after it’s out of combat. It’s so slow that its often better to summon a fresh Felguard than wait for the existing one to regen. I’m not sure if this is a stat thing or not, but it is a headache to deal with and watch out for. It adds nothing positive to the gameplay experience. - Low haste = Increased Ramp Up Time & Horrible Movement Potential - It’s no secret that unless it’s a talent or a proc, every single demonology DPS spell is a hard cast. Due to the way the demonology spec is built, its damage doesn’t even start to kick in until imps are out from a Hand of Gul’dan and dreastalkers have been called. Example: From 115-120 my Shadowbolt and Call Dreadstalker cast times were 1.8 seconds, Hand of Gul’dan was 1.3 seconds, and Demonbolt was 4.1 seconds. I start with 3 out of 5 soul shards for the opening attack. For the time it takes to fire out two shadowbolts (to get to 5 shards to allow for Dreadstalkers and a Hand of Gul’dan) and unleash the dreadstalkers and drop the hand…all of the targets are already half way dead. By this time it’s too late to call out the Demonic Tyrant, and there won’t be enough time to target someone and cast another shadowbolt, because the target will be dead before the cast is complete. So the only alternative is implosion. That’s only FIVE direct attacks minimum that get to be made against a group of targets. Now, imagine the same example when starting out with no shards. The minimum attack goes down even further. For a spec that suffers from such a horrible ramp up time, I find it funny that there’s not only just one talent (Power Siphon) that can be taken to soften that time up, but it also has a 30 second cooldown. But that’s not all! Taking Power Siphon requires having at least one imp out before it can be used. That means taking another talent (Inner Demons) in order to allow Power Siphon to function correctly as a ramp up softener during opening. AND the player needs to make sure that BOTH imps are present in order to get the maximum benefit of from Power Siphon. I think it goes without saying that it’s not cool when certain talents become mandatory in order for a spec to perform in a beneficial way to the group. I could easily not take those talents and spec the way I want to spec. But that turns into a major problem when the group sees that both the tank and the discipline priest are doing more damage than the warlock, who’s supposed to be a damage dealer. This also extends into solo PvE where it means the warlock takes longer to kill a target and must take on less targets at a time, lest the warlock wants to see their felguard get dropped (because the warlock is taking forever to cast stuff) and all target’s eyes fall on the warlock. And finally, the long cast times really become an issue during any fight that requires movement. Remember, the only non-talented proc demonology has for an instant attack (Demonic Core) is dependent on either the dreadstalkers fading out, or one of the imps from Hand of Gul’dan expiring. Dreadstalkers is the only 100% chance on fade to offer the proc. This means that if the warlock is moving, no Shadowbolt, Hand of Gul’dan, Call Dreadstalkers (unless talented, but whoops it also requires you to be attacking something to proc), Demonbolt, Summon Demonic Tyrant, Summon Vilefiend (talent), or Nether Portal (talent) can be used. That’s ALL of the warlock’s direct damage attacks that can’t be used, unless they talent into Bilescourge Bombers, Doom, or Grimoire of Felguard. Grimoire of Felguard and Bilescourge Bombers are both instant, but require 2 soul shards be on hand to use, and Doom requires 30 seconds before it will do its damage. Now I hoped, HOPED that once I got to 120 and got my gearscore high enough to enter heroic dungeons (and eventually mythics) that I would be able to get some gear to get my haste to a respectable level. A visit to the PTR told me otherwise, which leads us into… The 120 Experience - PTR Says: Get Used To Those Long Cast Times - I know the PTR isn’t exact like the live realms are, but they’re a good place to check/test things out to get a rough idea of what to expect once you get the macked out gear. I was so disappointed to find out that even in the macked out, highest level, haste heavy gear, my haste was only able to reach 20%. Sounds awesome right? Wrong. My 1.8 second Shadowbolt cast time is now down to an amazing 1.7 second cast time! Hand of Gul’dan is still (somehow) at a 1.3 cast time, and Demonbolt is now a 4 second cast. I’m essentially no better off than I was before. Final Thoughts (TLDR) This is the most fun I’ve had with demonology since metamorphosis and dark apotheosis were our new jams. This is what the spec should’ve looked like in legion and I’m glad to finally see it back in the good space it’s in. However, the “must be stationary in order to attack effectively” appears to be what Blizzard is dead set on the spec being. I sincerely hope this changes as this approach is not only frustrating to the player, it is frustrating to the groups they participate in. Since Blizzard is currently looking at ways to help the spec, this would be the fine tuning advice I’d offer, while trying to keep in mind their stationary vision. - Doom Made a Baseline Ability – This would help very much when it comes to movement. The spell is instant cast and can be spread, but 30 seconds is a long time to see a benefit when most mobs get melted in much less time than that. Shorten that window from 30 seconds to 15 seconds, and allow the talent to give Doom it’s ability to split its full damage into two hits against the target. Once in the middle of the spell and again at the end of the spell. If the damage is split, then each strike would have a 50% chance to return a soul shard. Also, the 5% chance to summon the doomguard would be updated to occur when Doom does damage, instead of Doom having to deal the killing blow, and the summon chance would be upped to 15%. - Hand of Gul’dan Regaining Its DoT Component - Currently this is an ability on azerite armor with a 15% chance to proc. Allow the azerite ability to extend the DoT duration from 10-18 seconds. The restored DoT component to Hand of Gul’dan would effect all the targets in its AoE range, and would not stack, but get refreshed if other hands are dropped. This combined with the Doom revamp would allow for damage to still be done during movement fights, even if it’s not with the non-proc major hitters. - Demonic Calling Made Baseline With From The Shadows Talent Buff - I know, I know. I should’ve said Call Dreadstalkers should be instant cast. But remember, I’m trying to stick with Blizzard’s philosophy. If we have to stand still so much, we should see a benefit, right? And a 20% additional shadowflame bonus is icing on top of the instant cast/1shard cost proc. Plus, this could still help out in movement fights, granted the RNG gods are on the nice side. The Demonic Calling talent could be revamped to allow for an extra dreadstalker, or for the two dreadstalkers to be mounted by imps a la Legion. The From The Shadows talent could be revamped to cause the 20% shadowflame debuff to spread to all targets within 8 yards of the target the dreadstalkers are summoned upon. - Summon Vilefiend & Nether Portal Talents are Instant Cast – Here’s direct help in the movement department for those who talent it. Both are spam protected due to their cooldowns, and still require some standstill setup due to their shard cost. Reduce the 45 second Vilefiend cooldown to 30 seconds. Also, with the recent changes being made to Nether Portal, it’s time to make the demon’s get summoned per shard spent versus when shards are spent. A maximum number of demon’s summoned, such as up to 10 at a time, would be an acceptable restriction to put on the spell, as long as the Demonic Tyrant can continue to extend their stay (STLDR) I believe these things, or something like them, would help the spec a lot. If we HAVE to be stationary and suffer from movement, having a spread debuff and our DoTs back to assist our demons would help in covering our tails until we can get situated and start casting again. And improve the demon AI! Please! So in closing, thank you Blizzard for finally getting demonology to the good place it is in now. But please, PLEASE, consider these issues and things mentioned that demonology warlock players face not just in solo play, but group play as well.Bludwurth14 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 Blizzard wants you to reroll mage ... All kidding aside this is a pretty big slap in the face to everyone that got duped via their errors. You would think that they could come up with a unique lore reason for them to be warlocks like how they made sun worshipping moo paladins or allowed undead to practice light and void magics. They even allowed gnomes to be hunters with mechanical pets. The literal storyline of the horde aiding in zandalar is fighting factions that turned to other powers because they saw their king going soft. They could create a small faction of warlocks who were influenced by the horde warlocks who have been mingling with the populace.Sathrago9 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 What is Destruction getting in 8.1? If you look on the patch notes for 8.1 on wowhead, theres a spell that is just called "warlock" (obviously a place holder), The page says "warlock" is now a destruction spell. is Destruction getting a spell brought over from another spec to use? does anyone know about this?Ithil10 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 OG Black Harvest where you at! where are all my og at. I wished they took away the tome. make everyone who has green flame extra special.Clare131 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 BC Trinket Lets talk about it. 355 int haste. How will it rank overall?Ruek0 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 Voidwalker useless now? What the hell happened to my Voidwalker? I used to use him as kind of a tank for when I was solo grinding. Not anymore. The poor guy can't make it through two mobs before he dies. I have to constantly Health Funnel the poor guy so he can handle 2 mobs at once. Did he get hit by the nurf bat?Ditina16 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 1 kick 1 death Hello, I’m newer to warlocks, specifically destro. How do you guys deal with getting 1 kick followed by their class stun and then you’re dead. No matter what I do, I just die before I can get any damage off. It’s really deterring me from the class. No mobility and the only defense we have is tied to the kick as shadow. Any feedback helps thanksUníque9 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 13, 2018 3 minute locks Used to be 3 minute mages. Now it's our turn unfortunately.Rorrschach3 Nov 13, 2018
Nov 12, 2018 Warlock drinking games Take a shot every time you go down first in arena Take a shot every time 5 stacks of ua get dispelled take a shot every time fear breaks due to ua take a shot every time your out of soul shards take a shot every time your teammates blame you take a shot every time you missclick your demonic gateway take a shot every time you lose to a demon hunter take a shot every time a blizzard employee tells you locks arent broken finish the bottle when someone ask why you rolled a warlockCrimpnacho12 Nov 12, 2018
Nov 12, 2018 BFA - Affliction [PvP] Feedback & Thoughts. Hey all, I’ve recently come back to WoW after quitting around early mythic Blackrock Foundry. Some friends wanted to PvP again and WoW brings people together – for better or for worse. I’ll preface this in saying I have never formally given feedback, usually it’s just incessant complaining about the state of things. However, WoW does PvP better than any MMO even at its worst. Being taciturn about the glaring issues guarantees nothing will change. I’ve been out of the loop for most of WoD and Legion with very little knowledge except for people loathed Demo (mostly). “You don’t know what you don’t know.” This is mainly from what I’ve experienced anecdotally in arenas and battlegrounds. I tend to focus more on arena for this feedback. Disclaimer, this is all my subjective sense of what is fun and what works. Ion consistently talks in this very purposed vernacular where he highlights certain player acknowledgments and perceptions. Let’s take myself, I recently returned to the game to see very few buttons on my bars. Yep, this is the obligatory pruning comment. It’s not fun to see there are no level 110 or 120 talents; it’s lethargic and uninspired. On the same note, takings abilities that were once baseline and moving them into talents is borderline a meme. It’s not a fun ‘choice’ and it’s not enjoyable by any margin. By choosing my talents *and* PvP talents, I barely feel like I have a complete spec. This isn’t okay design. I don’t understand Deathbolt in terms of execution. Affliction is the spec that kills via attrition, drains, and curses. How does a huge nuke fit this thematically? How is this good for ‘class fantasy’? The idea of consuming DoTs is neat, this is not, though. Maybe if Deathbolt added a DoT onto the target that was based off of the other DoT’s remaining damage over time; similar to how old Combustion worked, I think., Vile Taint seems like it should be baseline and buffed to a 50% slow at that. This could be a good replacement for old Shadowflame. The cast time is a fine trade-off for a DoT and slow. Life Tap being removed doesn’t bother me much. The issue is that Mana IS a problem. Mana hasn’t been relevant for many classes since Wrath. In PvP, you’d see Mages getting Evocations off, or other classes drinking. That was a unique paradigm, but it’s different now. Life Tap was archaic. Drain Life ticks for 600 mana, not sure what 120 numbers are like. This is an issue because Shadowbolt is a terrible filler in PvP. If Drain Life is viable, you can drop Drain Soul and take Nightfall or Deathbolt. Use Drain Life to proc Rot & Decay. But you can’t do that all the time, because you go OOM. Apparently Rot & Decay is procced by Drain Soul now, but that’s a band-aid. Defensives and survivability in PvP is in a precarious state. The historically ‘tanky caster’ is rendered to a squishy clothie. Taking away baseline Soul Link because why again? Maybe Dark Regeneration should return and take the place of Dark Pact, making the latter baseline. I also thinking no baseline Port is borderline a meme, too. Especially when you consider that, thematically, the 75 tier doesn’t even make sense for that. In MoP you could have Soul Link and glyphed Unending Resolve. I never liked the more active defensives for Warlock playstyle. - Allow the choice of 4-6 PvP talents, 3 isn’t enough. - Make Soul Link for all Warlock specs. - Remedy Mana issues, seriously. - Why not return self-heal to Haunt? - Curse of Exhaustion returns as a PvP talent with 50% slow. Random Destro comment, damage feels really bad.Schirmlock15 Nov 12, 2018
Nov 12, 2018 Wrathguard Dual Wield Again?! Wrathguard is so awesome, I use it more then the Felguard, it use to be able to dual wield.... even the random summon proc from inner demons The wrathguard dual wields why did they remove this? :( we need it back visually was so cool!Pepino10 Nov 12, 2018
Nov 12, 2018 Infernal No Path Available Can this be fixed? Seriously I'm sure my warlock brothers are with me. This is insanely annoying when theres a small creek or a tiny hill you cant drop infernal. I mean we're basically stationary mages with no invulnerability bubble or defense. You could at least fix our spells to work correctly. Mic drop.Crookedmán1 Nov 12, 2018
Nov 11, 2018 Deathbolt/Darkglare mechanics question Does each stack of Unstable Affliction count towards the stacking damage on the two abilities? For my opening rotation should I spam as many UA's as I have before using them and in the future stack up UA's to spam before each deathbolt? Or do I just need one copy of the spell for maximum effect? Also does the Haunt bonus damage apply retroactively to dots that are already on the mob? Same for UA, and if so why does the guide tell me to use UA after putting the other dots on? Wouldn't it be more damage overall if I put on Haunt and UA first so the other dots get the full effect of the bonus damage?Nevergiveup0 Nov 11, 2018
Nov 11, 2018 Infernal needs to be instant cast the whole summon and drop an infernal is problematic . can you just make it an instant castVxx14 Nov 11, 2018
Nov 11, 2018 From the shadows/soul conduit So will there be a buff to from the shadows, because its terrible since in only affect shadowflame spells. Soul conduit needs to be removed in my opinion from talents. Throw in something like this. hound master-passive-you now also command a shackled urzhul summoned as a passive demon. If it dies, it will revive after 30 seconds.Chåoslord0 Nov 11, 2018
Nov 11, 2018 warlock 2v2 spec i dont really expect to accomplish much in arena but ya just want to get my caps, suggestion for easiest choice for 2v2s?Crimsonita2 Nov 11, 2018
Nov 11, 2018 Warlock discord? Is there a Warlock discord channel?Niingdorei1 Nov 11, 2018