Sep 26 Warlocks - Your class needs you! Thread List V0.68 I think it might be pertinent to keep a record of all threads supporting the cause of Warlocks having a fair crack of the whip or at the very least some response to the growing concerns. This is merely a starting point. If I have missed your thread, one you have seen or you feel a thread included does more harm than good please comment below. Threads concerning the collation of warlock issues: Calling mechanics masters! All specs: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748845055 [Legion] Compilation of Suggestions/Bugs: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748805127 Unified Tuning Feedback: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748765378 We did it!: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748704898 Legion Beta General Discussion: [FEEDBACK] Problems with Warlock Animations: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745045224 General Discussion: Destruction Has Been ROBBED of Class Fantasy: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747964966 Destruction Warlocks in Legion: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/19741204678 Looking for insight on Warlock design: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748455595 Mop Destro vs WoD/Legion: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748655204 Short Analysis of Warlocks from Cata to now: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748686611 The current state of Warlocks: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748655429 The Destruction of Xelnath's Legacy: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748505218 Where are these comments on hitfixes?: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748556298 Warlock Sub-forum: ~Warlock Dev Hotfix Suggestions Thread~: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748936631 A long rational post about Affliction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749285422 An In-Depth Look at Affliction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749026487 A small change to haunt?: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748497041 A list of what we have lost in the last years: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749044719 A Treatise of Destruction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748864899 Calling All Warlock Voices: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748575457 Calling All Warlock Voices 2: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748596134 Calling All Warlock Voices 3: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748795049 Can we all agree? Drain Life.: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748904864 Can we get verdant spheres back?: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748586866?page=1 Cancelling My Subscription: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748904812 Change to affliciton: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748764848 Class Fantasy, and why we should Tame Demon: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749038322 Class fantasy shouldn't be managing mana: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748744774 Demo: skipping dreadstalkers: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748804878 Demoniclilys master suggestions thread!: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748626311 Demonology changes hurt class fantasy.: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747674874 Demon Variety and Customization: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749107177 Destro's Demise: The Dying Ember: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748844867#post-1 going oom as demonology: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748694826 Hotfix Thread: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749126546 How I thought Demononlogy was gonna work: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748686163 I spoke Demonic before it was cool: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748734807 My one problem with Soul effigy: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748764894 Not Happy With Demo ATM - A Rant: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747945470 Observations from an 838 AFF warlock: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749175673 On current and future Warlock design: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748976213 To Ion: From Affliction Warlock: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749086765 Warlock boring??: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748834815 Warlock Changes. A Constructive thread.: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749106237 Warlock Feedback! Attention Please: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748784884 Warlock Nerf List: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748595578 What would you change to fix your fav spec?: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748864834 Warlock Sub-forum - EU Calling All Warlock Voices - EU: http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17613162166 We as a community will be heard: http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17613132935 Legion PvP Feedback Legion PvP, from Beta to Live: A Path Forward.: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748456380 Regarding the disparity between melee and casters: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745196336 The purpose of this is to allow you, the concerned Warlock, to have a quick reference to threads which MAY get the attention of Blizzard. Please constructively contribute to these threads. Again, there will be threads I have missed. I will of course add relevant threads to the master list as they are provided. Addendum: PvE guides (I think this may prove helpful to some and give these threads the attention they deserve) Affliction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747875438 (Cryptrot) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/affliction-warlock-pve-dps-guide Demonology : http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748656161 (Nakkiel) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/demonology-warlock-pve-dps-guide Destruction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745707140 (Aldeen) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/destruction-warlock-pve-dps-guide Warlock Web Resources: Lock One Stop Shop http://lockonestopshop.com/#!/Home Change log: 0.68 Added web resources section, starting with Lock One Stop Shop 0.67 Added A long rational post about Affliction 0.66 Added Class Fantasy, and why we should Tame Demon Added Demon Variety and Customization 0.65 Added An In-Depth Look at Affliction 0.64 Added ~Warlock Dev Hotfix Suggestions Thread~ 0.63 Added To Ion: From Affliction Warlock Added Hotfix thread 0.62 Added On current and future Warlock design Added Warlock Changes. A constructive thread. 0.61 Added Observations from an 838 AFF warlock 0.6 Added EU Warlock forum threads where appropriate, same provisos apply 0.54 Added A list of what we have lost these last years Added Icy Veins PvE guides 0.53 Added Demonology changes hurt class fantasy. 0.52 Added Unified Tuning Feedback 0.51 Added [Legion] Compilation of Suggestions/Bugs 0.5 Added section concerning issue collation Sorted content alphabetically - should have done this from the start :D 0.44 Added Warlock Feedback! Attention Please 0.43 Added Legion PvP feedback section and included linked threads 0.42 Integrated Baalsamael post in format consistent with OP 0.41 Added Calling all Warlock Voices 3 0.4 Added Baalsamael post Added A Treatise of Destruction 0.34 Added Cancelling My Subscription 0.33 Added Short Analysis of Warlocks from Cata to now 0.321 Fixed categorization error 0.32 Added Where are these comments on hotfixes? 0.31 Added Calling All Warlock Voices 2 Added How I thought Demonology was gonna work 0.3 Added Demonology PvE guide 0.25 Added Mop Destro vs WoD/Legion 0.24 Added Destruction Warlocks in Legion 0.23 Added [FEEDBACK] Problems with Warlock Animations Added Legion Beta General Discussion Sub-forum section 0.22 Added Warlock Nerf List 0.21 Added PvE guides 0.2 Not Happy With Demo ATM - A Rant addedPoynty160 Sep 26
Sep 20 [7.0 Guide] to Logging (the only proven +DPS) Introduction Due to the recent patch and the changes that Warlocks, among other classes, have undergone, people are now more than ever concerned about how they are performing. I believe that the best way to evaluate performance is in evaluating your logs--and, without knowledge of how to analyze logs, or how to log, that's impossible. This guide should cover those sufficiently and allow interested players to improve their performance, or, if they would prefer, ask for help. Foreword Please feel welcome to dispute anything posted. I am very dedicated to making an accurate guide that keeps up with all the newest theorycrafting, and to that extent, I will be doing my best to keep up with recent information--but nobody is perfect. Table of Contents 1 - How to Log-1: WarcraftLogs -2: Downloading/Running Logs -3: Known Bugs 2 - Guide to Reading Logs-1: The Interface -2: The Tabs 3 - How to Evaluate Performance Using Logs-1: Basics -2: Destruction -3: Affliction -4: Demonology 4 - Conclusion-1: Afterword -2: Help with Evaluation Guide to Navigating the Thread: If you want to jump to a specific section in the thread, use Ctrl-F and type in the section number, then a dash, then the subsection number. For example, if I wanted to jump to the Known Bugs section, which is in Section 1, and is Subsection 3, I'd type "1-3" into Ctrl-F! ... 1-1: WarcraftLogs WarcraftLogs (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/) is a World of Warcraft fansite dedicated to hosting interactive combat logs and fight rankings for current and past raids in WoW. It is commonly used, to great effect, to evaluate how well someone is performing compared to other players of their spec and to optimal play. By the end of this guide, it is my belief that you will both understand how to evaluate logs and why we evaluate logs. -Why Warcraft Logs? Warcraft Logs is a lot more user-friendly and in-depth than World of Logs--not to mention that its developers (who I am wholly unrelated to) are continuing to update and build on its foundation, where World of Logs, to my knowledge, is remaining stagnant. 1-2: Downloading/Setting Up the Logs Client The WarcraftLogs website is fairly self-explanatory with regards to setting up the client, but in any guide for log analysis must be a guide for actually logging. I've broken it down into a 3 step system. 1: Go to https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ 2: Find this [ http://puu.sh/dxBDb/3fed32d7d1.png ] section--it's in the upper right-hand corner of the home screen. Click "Sign Up," and make an account! 3: Now that you're logged in, go to where you clicked "Sign Up"--your username will have replaced that option! Click your username, and a dropdown menu will appear. Select "Download Client" and install it! Then, start the client on your computer while playing WoW. This window should appear: [ http://puu.sh/dTL5x/25b02f7b54.jpg ] From there, hit Live Log, and you'll arrive at this screen: [ http://puu.sh/dTLcR/ad07786613.jpg ] Then, if you wish, you can select what page to record your logs on (the default, as you can see, is Personal Logs), and click go! Then, all you need to do is enter World of Warcraft, enter "/combatlog" and raid! All the combat you're doing is now being recorded in real time to Warcraft Logs, where it can be analyzed. When you're done, simply type "/combatlog" again in-game to stop recording combat logs, and click "Stop" on the client! Advanced Combat Logging: In game, to enable Advanced Combat Logging, access the main menu (usually by clicking escape), select System, select Network, and check the boss for Advanced Combat Logging. 1-3: Known Bugs Sometimes, when attempting to log, the client will record nothing, or state "Error - Bad Line". While this is not intended, it is more common than isolated--it can be fixed by simply restarting logs. ... 2-1: The Interface The WarcraftLogs interface is intuitive and user-friendly. An example of a log is one of my Personal Logs, found at [ http://tinyurl.com/k66hywk ]. I will be using this log for the purposes of demonstration throughout this guide. [ http://puu.sh/dxCDv/bb44cf32ef.png ] The image above is what you will first see when reading a log. The first page it shows you (the one shown) is a summary of the various measures of performance recorded by the service. Each of the different tabs (Damage Done, Damage Taken, Healing) will take you to a page that details each individual type of performance. These will be covered in the following section. The Graph The Graph can be manipulated and modified to display only certain data--whether you wish to focus on a specific player, a specific damaging mechanic, or a specific portion of the fight. To access a specific portion, simply click and drag from one end of the graph you'd like to observe to the other--it'll automatically display only the information from that slice of the graph. To display a specific player or mechanic, simply select that option from one of the tables below the graph. The Options The options, located in the upper left hand of your screen, will look similar to these [ http://puu.sh/dxD8d/4b43537a58.jpg ]. Each of the selections (The Butcher, All Friendlies, etc.) have a small arrow to their right--indicating the presence of a dropdown menu. You can select these to choose which boss you would like to observe (selecting The Butcher, in this case), which kill of that boss (if there is more than one in a log), or which player/enemy you would like to observe (selecting "All Friendlies" in this case). Views Located just below the graph are three tabs: Tables View, Events View, and Fight Analysis. Tables View provides the standard table of values--useful in other sections for viewing uptimes, percentages, and other numeric values. Events View simply lists each combat log event by time, useful for determining specific cast orders or time between events. [ http://puu.sh/dxDDd/b792b43c05.png ] Fight Analysis is a handy, automatic, mechanics analysis of the fight. It's useful for determining who caused wipes, or what went wrong on a kill. 2-2: The Tabs Damage Done: This is likely your primary tab of interest. When evaluating warlock DPS, it is one of the main two tabs that you will actually be interested in. When you click this tab, it will default to taking you to a screen similar to the summary--a graph, with a tables view of Damage Done and DPS beneath it. [ http://puu.sh/dxDS9/076101ed08.png ] From here, you can observe how your DPS is compared to the rest of your raid for the fight. However, for evaluation, we must look at the specifics. From there, you would click on your name from the tables view--which would take you to a tables view of your abilities used and damaging effects. [ http://puu.sh/dxE0m/b583e10694.png ] Damage Taken This tab is similar in nature to Damage Done, but displays Damage Taken instead. You can use it to determine uptimes of damaging debuffs and other effects in the same manner you would with Damage Done. It is, however, not entirely relevant to evaluating Warlock DPS (very useful to determine who's draining your healers' mana, though!) Healing This tab is similar to both Damage Done and Damage Taken, but again, deals with healing and healing buffs instead. Useful to determine how much you're healing for with self-heals, but not relevant to DPS. Buffs For Warlock DPS analysis, the Buffs tab will be fairly invaluable. It is a graph -- which is less interesting than the preeceeding tabs' graphs -- and a table containing the uptimes of Damage, Defensive, Healing, Movement, and Raid buffs, in addition to stances and unknown buffs. The reason it's important to Warlocks is not to determine if someone had buffs--but to determine how they're reacting to Trinket Procs, using Dark Soul, using their potions, or even Fire and Brimstone in some situations. If you click on a particular player, it will take you to a screen similar to this one: [ http://puu.sh/dxEIj/ae75429356.png ] Debuffs This tab is less important than the others in terms of DPS analysis, but functions similarly to buffs--but with debuffs. Deaths This tab simply displays deaths and the time leading to those deaths--it can be invaluable in determining who is at fault for a given death. Interrupts This tab displays all interrupts used and can be used to fix issues in interrupt orders in raids. Dispels This tab displays dispells and can be used to determine which player is dispelling the most, or if someone dispelled something they were not meant to. Works for both Offensive and Healer dispells. Resources This tab allows you to view resource expenditure/generation over a fight. It can be used for Demonic Fury, Burning Embers, and Soul Shards and displays raw gain, wasted amount, and net gain. Casts This tab displays number of casts, time spent casting, et cetera. It's especially useful to assist in correcting an opening sequence or observing a particular set of casts (such as a Hand of Gul'dan 2-stacking mishap). Summons Shows all pet, minion, guardian, and demon summons throughout a fight. Replay This feature can show the positioning of players throughout a given fight provided the logging player is using "advanced combat logging," an option found in-game. ... 3-1: The Basics Before you evaluate each given spec, it's helpful to know what kind of things you're going to be looking for. -DoT/Debuff Uptimes: You are going to be looking through the Damage Done section of a Warlock's spellcasts, looking for Damage over Time or other debuffs effects such as Immolate, Corruption, Haunt or Doom. Different DoTs or Debuffs will call for different uptimes. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGe8/43d53f1d91.png ] -Cast Ratios: You may also be looking for ratios of one spells' casts to another. This can be done very easily by looking at the casts column and checking numbers. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGkX/81bd70a89b.png ] -Buff Usage: All specs have some degree of resource pooling for certain procs or cooldowns. You will be comparing the amount of certain buffs cast, such as Dark Soul or on-use trinkets, the times that randomly proccing trinkets activate, and more to determine how effectively someone is using their spells. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGsY/f960820817.png ] WAITING FOR 7.2.5, WILL UPDATE SOON! ... 4-1: Afterword I am not the best Warlock, and I accept this--however, I am passionate about this class, and intend to go forward in WoD with stronger progression and theorycrafting than before. I especially hope that I can help new or returning Warlocks--or even experienced Warlocks who want to brush up on their play--improve and perform better as time goes forward. 4-2: Help with Evaluation If you'd like for a more experienced Warlock to look over your logs and provide their insight, simply post a link to the logs and some basic background information in the thread below. There is a great number of experienced, skilled, and helpful Warlocks around who enjoy doing just that!Hedo109 Sep 20
Aug 21 [PvE Guide] Destruction in Legion 7.3 Introduction Hedo is switching mains in Legion, so I'm going to take up maintaining a Destruction guide, compiling theorycrafting information into one place to build an informative PvE reference. Foreword This guide will be an iterative work on my part, so there will need to be revisions as time goes on and more players figure things out/perfect sims for theroycrafting. Feel free to point out anything you feel isn't accurate, especially if you've got any sources to show as much, as well as anything that might be missing from this guide. [Anything in square brackets is either super WIP, needs confirmation or more info]. Table of Contents 1 - Legion Changes 1. Soul Shards 2. The Scepter of Sargeras2 - Stats and Gearing 1. Stats and How They Affect You 2. Racial Bonuses 3. Tier Bonuses, Legendaries and Other Notable Items 4. Stat Builds, Gems and Enchants3 - Talents and Artifact Traits 1. Talents 2. Artifact Traits 3. Artifact Relics 4. What About Glyphs?4 - Rotations 1. Basic Single Target Rotation 2. Basic Multi Target/AoE Rotation 3. Opening Sequence 4. Advanced Rotation5 - Useful Addons and Macros 1. Addons 2. Macros 3. Logging6 - Sources 1. Data and Sims 2. Sources7 - Conclusion Navigating this Guide To find a specific section of this guide, use ctrl+f (Find...) and search for "[Section]-[Subsection]". For example, if you wanted to find the section on Artifact Traits, you would search "3-2". ...Destruction has seen a few baseline changes worth mentioning before delving into the rest of the guide. Most of this will be touched on in more detail in the Rotation section. 1-1 Soul Shards and Soul Shard Fragments Burning Embers have returned. Sort of. As of 7.2.5, Soul Shards for Destruction have been broken down into 10 Soul Shard Fragments each. Our Fragment generators are: Incinerate, generating 2 Fragments and an additional Fragment on a crit. Immolate, having a 50% change to generate a Fragment. This is guaranteed on a crit. Conflagrate, generating 5 Fragments. Our Shard spenders are still Chaos Bolt and Rain of Fire, costing 2 and 3 Soul Shards respectively. 1-2 The Scepter of Sargeras We no longer have weapon drops in Legion, but we have a spec specific Artifact weapon: The Scepter of Sargeras. This staff serves as our character progression throughout the max level experience in Legion, providing a number of Traits ranging from a new ability, Dimensional Rift, to increases in damage to several spells (See section 3 for more details). Throughout Legion, you'll earn Artifact Power and Artifact Knowledge, which increases Artifact Power drops for that character, that can be used to gain Traits. There are also hidden effects that the Artifact has. A list of all know hidden and PvE relevant effects can be found below... when some are discovered. ...2-1 Stats and How They Affect You Intellect: Increases your Spell Power at a rate of 1 Int = 1 SP. Spell Power increases the damage done by all of your spells.Critical Strike: Gives most of your spells a random chance to deal additional damage (around double in PvE). Increases the damage dealt by Chaos Bolt at flat rate (eg. 20% Crit rating increases Choas Bolt's damage by 20%).Haste: Reduces the cast time of all your spells. Increases the rate at which Damage over Time spells (Immolate) tick. Reduces the cooldown of Conflagrate charges.Mastery: Causes your spells to deal X% increased damage, plus up to X% extra damage. Causes damage you take to be reduced by Y%, plus up to Y% extra damage reduction. Y is roughly one fifth of X.Versatility: Increases all damage and healing done by a percentage. Reduces the damage taken by half of the above percentage.Multistrike...? Multistrike has been removed in Legion and has been replaced by another stat on old gear. 2-2 Racial Bonuses Alliance Dwarf: Might of the Mountain - Increases your critical strike damage/healing by 2%. Gnome: Nimble Fingers - Increases haste by 1%. Human: The Human Spirit - Increases all secondary stats by 2% from all sources. Worgen: Viciousness - Increases critical strike chance by 1%. Horde Blood Elf: Arcane Acuity - Increases critical strike chance by 1%. Goblin: Time is Money - Increases haste by 1%. Orc: Blood Fury - Increases your Spell/Attack power by 2243 (at level 110) for 15 seconds. 2 minute cooldown. Troll: Berserking - Increases your haste by 15% for 10 seconds. Undead: Touch of the Grave - Your spells have a small chance to deal extra damage to the target, healing you for the same amount. 2-3 Tier Bonuses, Legendaries and Other Notable Items Order Hall Set - Vestments of The Black Harvest This is a set of ilvl 810+ gear earned through your Class Hall campaign. These pieces of gear can be upgraded to 840, except shoulders which are ilvl 850. 2 Piece - Increase your out-of-combat regeneration in outdoor Broken Isles zones. 4 Piece - While you are below 35% health you take 50% reduced damage in outdoor Broken Isles zones. 6 Piece - Intellect increased by 500. 8 Piece - Spending a Soul Shard has a chance to increase your Mastery by 2000 for 12 seconds. The Arcway and Court of Stars Sets In the Mythic-only dungeons, The Arcway and Court of Stars, there are several 2 piece sets; one for each armour type and two for every class/spec. Journey Through Time - Trinket and Neck: The effect from Chrono Shard (trinket proc) now increases your movement speed by 30% and grants an additional 1000 Haste. March of the Legion - Neck and Finger: Your spells and abilities have a chance to deal an additional 27200 to 36800 Fire damage. Nightwell Arcanum - Head and Shoulders: Your spells have a chance to increase your Haste by 3000 for 15 seconds. Tier 19 Set - Legacy of Azj'Aqir 2 Piece - Casting Chaos Bolt reduces the cast time of your next Chaos Bolt by 40% for 4 seconds. 4 Piece - Conflagrate gains an additional charge and its charge cooldown is reduced by 3 seconds. Tier 20 Set - Diabolic Raiment 2 Piece - Incinerate generates one additional Soul Shard Fragment. 4 Piece - Chaos Bolt now always gains maximum benefit from Mastery: Chaotic Energies. Legendaries In Legion, Legendary items have been introduced as world drops, giving you a bonus similar to Epic world drops of old. They can range from bonuses for any class, ranged, Warlocks or Destruction specifically. They currently drop from PvE bosses, World Quest Chests and PvP strongboxes. You will start only being able to equip one legendary at a time, increasing to two through your Order Hall research. Prydaz, Xavaric's Magnum Opus - Neck - All Classes: Every 30 seconds, gain an absorb shield for 25% of your max health. Sephuz's Secret - Finger - All Classes: Successfully applying a loss of control effect, interrupt or dispell grants you 70% increased movement speed and 25% Haste for 10 seconds. This effect may only occur once every 30 seconds. Kil'jaeden's Burning Wish - Trinket - DPS: Launch a vortex of destruction that seeks your current enemy. When it reaches the target, it explodes, dealing a critical strike to all enemies within 10 yds for 1121640 Fire damage. Norgannon's Foresight - Feet - Warlocks, Priests and Mages: Standing still for 8 seconds grants you Foresight, allowing you to cast while moving for 5 seconds. Soul of the Netherlord - Finger - Warlocks: (Destruction) You gain the Eradication talent The Master Harvester - Chest - Warlocks: Each Soul Shard you spend has a 6% (Destruction) change to grant you Soul Harvest for 8 seconds. Pillars of the Dark Portal - Legs - Warlocks: Demonic Gateway now casts instantly and you can use Demonic Gateways twice before triggering a cooldown. Alythess's Pyrogenics - Finger - Destruction: Enemies effected by your Rain of Fire take 10% increased damage from your Fire spells. Odr, Shawl of the Ymirjar - Back - Destruction: Enemies marked by your Havoc take 8% increased damage from your single target spells. Feretory of Souls - Waist - Destruction: Casting a damaging Fire spell has a 10% chance to generate a Soul Shard. Magistrike Restraints - Wrist - Destruction: Chaos Bolt has a 20% chance to strike an additional enemy within 30 yards. Lessons of Space-Time - Shoulders - Destruction: While you have a Dimensional Rift open, all your damage is increased by 10% 2-4 Stat Builds, Gems and Enchants These priorities will change based on Talent choices, Artifact progression and target counts. The priorities and enchants/gems suggested below will provide a good stat priority for most situations. Stat Priorities Generally: Intellect => Haste > Crit > Vers > Mastery For more accurate stat weights for your character, you should sim yourself. For more information you can read the following guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pW5mWY9nkfWoRCOHfoXqeeGb8s-jMoSVy-g8uveUv4c/preview#heading=h.3lsngyuiznm9 Note: If you invest heavily in mastery, you will experience swings in damage from fight to fight based on how lucky you are. If you would rather have a more consistent build, consider avoiding Mastery in favor of other stats Gems Currently, socketing Haste gems should be your priority. You may also have one Saber's Eye of Intellect in your equipped armour, but these are expensive, so socket these wisely. Enchants For Ring enchants, Haste should also be your priority. Cloak enchants are main stat, so use Intellect. Neck Enchant Mark of the Claw is currently our best neck enchant. Food, Flasks and Pots You should be using Haste food, Flask of the Whispered Pact and Potion of Deadly Grace or Potion of Prolonged Power (these are about neck and neck in performance, PP pulling ahead on multitarget). ...3-1 Talents Talents have been through a significant rework in Legion; there are many more Talents that effect your DPS throughput now and not in a "Pick Your Different Flavour of AoE/Single Target/Cleave Talent in this Row" structure either. As such, there are a lot of different set ups for a lot of different situations where you'd want to change talents; many different setups may even excel on a per Boss basis. My aim with this section is to provide an optimal pure ST build and the basis for a dungeon build, then examine each row to show why you would deviate or stay with the suggested Talents on each row. Talent Calculator: http://legion.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warlock/destruction Suggested ST Build Tier One: Backdraft Tier Two: Eradication Tier Three: Demonic Circle Tier Four: Soul Harvest Tier Five: Demon Skin or Dark Pact Tier Six: Grimoire of Service Tier Seven: Channel Demonfire Suggested Dungeon Build [This will likely go through several iterations soon] Tier One: Backdraft Tier Two: Eradication or Empowered Life Tap Tier Three: Shadowfury Tier Four: Cataclysm or Fire and Brimstone Tier Five: Burning Rush or Demon Skin Tier Six: Grimoire of Sacrifice Tier Seven: Any Tier One: Backdraft: Casting Conflagrate reduces the cast time of your next two Incinerate or Chaos Bolt casts by 30%. Roaring Blaze: Conflagrate increases your remaining Immolate damage on the target by 25% until Immolate is refreshed or expires. Shadowburn: Blasts a target for 316% Spell Power. Generates 5 Soul Shard Fragments plus an additional 5 if the target dies within 5 seconds. Replaces Conflagrate, 12 second CD.Discussion: Backdraft is your go-to for this tier. Roaring Blaze currently doesn't perform better than Backdraft in almost any scenario. Shadowburn is very niche and is only a good pick where you can get 2 shards incredibly consistently (basically every 12 seconds). Tier Two: Reverse Entropy: Chaos Bolt and Rain of Fire restore 35% of your maximum mana and their damage is increased by 10%. Eradication: Chaos Bolt increases damage dealt to the target by 15% for 7 seconds. Empowered Life Tap: Life Tap now grants you 10% increased damage for 20 seconds. This duration can pandemic (max 25 seconds when refreshed).Discussion: In single target and 2 target cleave, Eradication is your best choice; 3 or more targets and ELT performs better. Tier Three: Demonic Circle: Summons a Demonic Circle for 6 minutes, allowing you to teleport to its location and remove all movement slowing effects. Limit 1. 0.5 second cast. Mortal Coil: Horrifies an enemy target into fleeing, Incapcitating them for 3 seconds an healing your for 20% maximum health. You will be healed even if the target is not effected by the Horrify. Shadowfury: Stuns all enemies within 8 yards for 4 seconds. 1.5 second cast time. 30 second cooldown.Discussion: Demonic Circle is going to be your go-to for raids, unless you specifically require a stun. Shadowfury is good for dungeons, specifically in Mythic+. Mortal Coil's heal can be useful, but for the most part is too niche for general PvE use. Tier Four: Fire and Brimstone: Incinerate now hits all enemies near the target and generates 1 Soul Shard Fragment per target. Cataclysm: Conjures a cataclysm at the target location, dealing 750% Spell Power Shadowflame damage to all enemies within 8 yards and afflicts them with Immolate. 2.5 second cast. 30 second cooldown. Soul Harvest: Increases the damage of you and your pets by 20%. Lasts 12 seconds, increased by 4 seconds for each target afflicted by Immolate, up to a maximum of 36 seconds. Casting this does not incur a GCD.Discussion: Soul Harvest is your best choice for 1 and 2 targets. For 3+, both Cataclysm and FnB are good options, with Cataclysm being preferable for periodic adds and FnB better for constant cleave. Tier Five: Demon Skin: Your Soul Leech now recharges by 1% maximum health every second, and you may now absorb up to 20% maximum health. Burning Rush: Increases your movement speed by 50%, but also damages you for 4% of your maximum health every 1 sec. Movement impairing effects may not reduce you below 100% of normal movement speed. Lasts until cancelled. Dark Pact: Sacrifices 20% of your current demon's health to shield you for 400% of the sacrificed health for 20 seconds. If you have no demon active, your health is sacrificed instead. Usable while under control impairing effects.Discussion: You should use Demon Skin or Dark Pact in raids unless you need the movement speed of Burning Rush for a very important mechanic, but most of these can be handled similarly with Demonic Circle. Demon Skin gives the most value when incoming damage is frequent and Dark Pact will present the most value when damage is infrequent and very high (its also far stronger with GrimSac given it will use your Health Pool instead of your pets). In dungeons, Burning Rush is desirable when flying through easier dungeons (especially low M+), but you lose a fair amount of survivability, so use at your discretion. Tier Six: Grimoire of Supremacy: Doomguard and Infernal can now be used as permanent pets. Grimoire of Service: Summon a second demon for 25 seconds that deals 100% increased damage. 1.5 min cooldown. They will additionally perform their utility action on summon. Grimoire of Sacrifice: Sacrifice your current demon to gain Demonic Power, which causes your spells to sometimes deal 100% Spell Power Shadow damage to the target and enemies within 8 yards. Approx. 20 RPPM. Lasts 1 hour or until another permanent Demon pet is summoned.Discussion: Some important things to note about this tier: Sacrifice no longer gives you a spell on Command Demon, so choosing which demon to summon does not matter as this talent prevents you from using a pet's Command Demon ability without re-summoning. Also, Supremacy changes Lord of Flames to be activated on an Infernal's Meteor Strike ability (which you should turn off auto-cast to control when it is used). For 3 or more consistent targets, use Sacrifice. In ST, Service and Supremacy are neck and neck, with Supremacy just ahead. Service ends up being more practical for progression and burst. Tier Seven: Wreak Havoc: Havoc's cooldown is reduced by 20 seconds. Channel Demonfire: Launches 15 bolts of felfire over 3 seconds to random targets afflicted with Immolate. Each bolt deals 100% Spell Power Fire damage and dealing 50% Spell Power Fire damage to all nearby enemies. 25 second cooldown, reduced by haste. Soul Conduit: Each Soul Shard spent has a 15% chance to be refunded.Discussion: In ST, CDF is your best choice. Wreak Havoc should be used when there is 2 to 3 consistent priority targets. At 4 targets and above, SC could pull ahead, especially when coupled with FnB. 3-2 Artifact Traits Artifact Calculator: http://legion.wowhead.com/artifact-calc/warlock/destruction/AqSCImA Active Ability - Dimensional Rift The first trait you receive with the Scepter is Dimensional Rift. This is an instant cast spell with 3 charges and a 45 second cooldown. This spell will open one of three rifts, chosen randomly, to deal damage to your current target, additionally generating 3 Soul Shard Fragments. This can be in the form of a huge chunk of Fel (Chaos Tear), a rapid fire succession of Shadowfel bolts (Unstable Tear) or a slower slew of Shadow bolts (Shadowy Tear). These currently appear to not have infinite range and will cease dealing damage if their target moves out of their range. Use of this ability will be covered more in the Rotations section. Golden Traits Dimension Ripper: Incinerate has a 5% chance to grant a charge of Dimensional Rift. Lord of Flames: Once every 10 minutes, your Summon Infernal (Infernal's Meteor Strike with GrimSup) summons 3 extra Infernals for 25 seconds. Conflagration of Chaos: Conflagration has a 50% chance to guarantee your next Conflagrate critically strikes, and to increase its damage by your critcal strike chance. Flame Rift: (7.2 Trait) Dimensional Rift can now summon a powerful Flame Rift, casting Searing Bolt 20 times over ~8 seconds. Searing Bolt deals 100% Spell Power Fire damage and an additional 140% Spell Power Fire damage over 20 seconds, stacking up to 20 times. Other interesting Traits Soul Snatcher: Chaos Bolt has a 3% (+3% for each addition level) to refund 1 Soul Shard. Demonic Durability: Reduces the cooldown of your Unending Resolve by 30 seconds. Eternal Struggle: After casting Life Tap, you take 3% (+3% with each level) less damage for 6 seconds Planeswalker: Transporting through your Demonic Gateway increases your movement speed by 30% for 6 seconds. Cry Havoc: (7.2 Trait) When Chaos Bolt strikes a target marked with Havoc, it explodes dealing 100% Spell Power damage to nearby enemies. Golden Trait Shortest Paths Getting to each Golden Trait the cheapest way possible is rather simple with the Scepter. The following are the shortest paths to each starting from Flames of the Pit (the trait immediately following Dimensional Rift). Flames of the Pit --> Devourer of Life --> Residual Flames --> Conflagration of Chaos Flames of the Pit ---> Eternal Struggle ---> Burning Hunger ---> Lord of Flames Flames of the Pit ---> Master of Disaster OR Fire From The Sky ---> Demonic Durability ---> Fire and Flames OR Soulsnatcher ---> Chaotic Instability ---> Dimension Ripper Following these paths in any order will not increase the total amount of Artifact Power you need to unlock all 3 as quick as possible so long as you only get one of the two traits in both forks in the Dimension Ripper path. Suggested Trait Path To get the most out of your early Artifact Traits, you should look to get Impish Incineration (Lord of Flames path, detour after Eternal Struggle), then Lord of Flames, then Conflagration of Chaos, and lastly Dimension Ripper before filling out the rest of the Artifact. For those looking to min-max their path: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/146682707756187658/214946089294364682/ARTIFACTFINISHFINISH.png 7.2 Suggested Trait Path After you reach the Broken Shore for the second time and have 35 Artifact traits, you will soon unlock a new set of Traits as well as a 4th rank in all 3 rank traits. Once you unlock these, its suggested you get all the new Traits first, then the 4th ranks in older Traits in the same order as your Relic priorities. 3-3 Artifact Relics Artifact Relics are drops from the world, dungeon bosses and raids that enhance your artifact in two ways. They provide an item level boost to your Scepter, increasing its stats. Relics also add a rank to one of the traits in your Artifact that have multiple ranks, further increasing the benefit they provide. You will start with 2 Relic slots and unlock a 3rd by completing your Class Order Campaign. Selection of which relics to use will mostly come down to ilevel when leveling, so prioritise higher ilevel relics until you can be picky about the traits the relics buff. Relic sims can be found here: http://lockonestopshop.com/#!/Destruction/Sims/Relic 3-4 What about Glyphs? The glyph system has been reworked and Major Glyphs have been removed; all glyphs are now cosmetic only.Aldeen280 Aug 21
Oct 26, 2010 Welcome Warlocks: Please Read! Welcome to the Warlock forum! This forum is here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss the warlock class with your fellow World of Warcraft players. Community forums work best when participants treat their fellow posters with respect and courtesy, so we ask that you take the time to read through the forum Code of Conduct (http://us.battle.net/en/community/conduct) and guidelines (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15252595157) before posting. Important Reminders: Search The search function at the top of the World of Warcraft community site is extremely effective and robust. Before you create a new forum topic, please be use it to search for similar topics, blog posts, or web pages that may contain the answer for which you are looking. Making a new thread on an existing subject can result in your thread being deleted or, if you continue to re-post the same content, the loss of your forum privileges for spamming. Rating The forum rating system can be used to promote positive discussion, demote unhelpful comments, and even report posts that violate the forum Code of Conduct. By hovering over a post you'll be presented with several options, including a "thumbs up" (Like) and a "thumbs down" (Dislike) icon. Clicking the "thumbs up" icon will rate the post up. If enough people like a post, it will gain a Highly Rated status and appear at the top of related search results. Highly Rated posts will also have a highlighted background. Clicking the "thumbs down" icon will expand a drop-down menu which will include "Dislike," "Trolling, "Spam" and "Report" options. "Dislike" will rate the post down. If enough people dislike a post, it will be darkened, and with a lot of dislikes it will be hidden completely. You can also quickly report a post as trolling or spam, or use the report function to fill out a more comprehensive description of a violation. Please note that you can only rate each post once. Use your power wisely to help foster a positive and helpful forum community. Have fun posting on these forums, and good luck with your adventures in Azeroth!Lylirra1 Oct 26, 2010
8m Making a lock. Which one should I make I want to be top of the dps charts. Now before you flame me for wanting to be OP, know that I main a shaman and I’ve dealt with our class being !@#$ on constantly and being middle of the pack dps wise for mythic. (Why I main resto now). But I want a change of pace. I’m burnt out. I’ve played shadow/holy priest and demon hunter and it wasn’t for me. So I’m looking to boost a lock and would like to know a few things. What are the relative difficulties of each spec (aka rotation). Which spec is the most fun to play. And which spec is the best at topping meters.Eizzok7 8m
1h Why did they remove eye glyph?? Is it just me, or does it seem like Blizzard is closely watching the game to see if there is something that players are enjoying, and then ALWAYS patching that out?? I am talking about the Glyph of Eye of Kilrogg, which was removed in legion for some reason. Come on Blizz, PLEASE STOP taking things from us. Warlocks already have pretty much NO useful glyphs anymore, did you REALLY need to take the last useful glyph?? WHY???? It is now all but impossible to do the Green Fire Questline in Black Temple because you sort of NEED to set teleports using your eye to get past stage 4, but you guys are constantly trying to downgrade the game, and I do not get it. Can anyone tell me how to get through stage 4 now without using the eye?? Thanks in advance!!Cherri3 1h
1h Help! My DPS sucks! Here I am for all to examine. Please give me advice on where I am going wrong.Zeddicious2 1h
1h are afflocks connected to the void? ^Mandriuz8 1h
2h WTB Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion.... Hello all, after some farming of rares on Isle of Thunder, I have come to the conclusion that getting this tome is going to be near impossible.... I mean, I killed every single one of them today TWICE, and no joy. I realize that this IS World of Grindcraft, but my patience, and achedule are somewhat unforgiving about long grinds for items, as well, I have an extra 200k, so I would like to request to purchase the tome from anyone who has one on Fizzcrank Horde US. I have not seen a single one on the auction, for any price, but if I did then I would get the gold.... Of course, farming the rares was also not stressful, because almost nobody is farming this thing anymore, but I would hope for atleast one other interested player. PLEASE respond with an offer, and thanks in advance!!Cherri2 2h
4h Demonic Gateway 154: OFF TOPIC THREAD I dont like to stress the fact that the warlock rocks, but he just does,So, for all you staff users out there, feel free to come in and post, my staff is a good one, but here is how it goes 1. post message in the room 2. LOOK IT OVER 3. dont report anything, i might get in treble :) 4. "Eppdawg" is not allowed to cep and 5. Have fun!! and 6. keep on truckin' ganksta http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19288699802 IndexTharosh306 4h
5h Ember Tap Question.... I have recently begun to pay more attention to my lock (Destruction for now), and realized that I am missing a core spell (Ember Tap).... Did I never get this ability when it was available, or is there some questline I need to do for this?? Please clarify, and thanks in advance!!Cherri11 5h
6h Did I just make a mistake? I usually play affliction on my locks, but I wanted to play demo because it seems interesting right now. I did the entire Argus questline and dumped 21 billion AP into demo. There is a clear difference in damage against mobs now... Did I make a mistake?Pischushkin13 6h
9h Hit a wall affliction I seem to have hit a wall and can’t get any gear with mastery and haste. I’ve had ilvl upgrades with more intel and mastery but they all have no haste and I fear I’m loosing dps due to my haste dropping so low (15%). All the gear I find with haste has no mastery. Seems a vicious cycle. I don’t do heroic/mythic raiding but am going to try pug a N TOS. relinquished tokens seem to give me crap stat gear. TLDR: do u take higher intellect and item level gear over lower ilvl gear with haste and mastery?. I’m using the pawn addon and equip anything that’s a 10% upgrade.Mestefica8 9h
9h Coolest class/race for Warlocks Opinions? https://strawpoll.com/bgydchr2Umaruchan1 9h
10h No like? So I have been in a few Raidfinder raids trying to get better at the fights so I can move on to premade normal, heroic and mythical... personal progression I guess you could say. Is there a dislike for affliction locks in raids? I have been kicked several times now and I'm starting wounder why. if I'm doing stuff wrong repeatedly, Attempt after attempt on the same boss then yeah time to move on but I thinkMy personal progression has been positive, not negative. First time was because I did not drop summoning stone upon my entrance into the raid instance. Funny thing is though, I did. Someone sent me a whisper and asked if I could drop one. So I did. Second time was they were worried I would spam AOE, so I was kicked, but we had not even Attempted the boss yet. Third time was because They said I was AFK, but damage meters say otherwise.My dps was neatly tucked away under the 8th spot on charts, 20 person raid. Even with 2 tanks 4 healers, leaves 14 dps, 8 is not bad, center of mass of dps, margins were tight too. Idk Is there a stench cloud around affliction locks that I am anaware of? Please inform me of any thing I am not aware of or any Talant point combinations expected for any of the fights. As far as I am aware, as long as I'm at least center of the mass of the dps and know how to be efficient with my class, I thought I was good to go. I don't feel the need to be a chart topper, but I know I need to hold my own. Also, I think I know affliction very well as It's been my main since 2005. I may not get all nitty gritty with the complexities involved with what makes affliction shine , but still if I'm not at bottom of damage produced with a giant margin I think I am viable to stay in a raidfinder raid.Mocoso2 10h
13h Why affliction warlock is kinda low in dps ? I can't believe it's still damn hard to balance class at this time. Can you tell me why every melee dps at the same ilvl doing like 100 k dps + then all affliction lock in single dps ? After all this years and new contain and update . Why is this so hard to balance class ? I hope they will fix this problem very soon because it's painful to play and being lower in dps then every one .Ðmgl37 13h
13h Destro T21 Contradicts Eradication & Havoc https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759308846 pls support even if aff fanboy ...Dzdz25 13h
15h Fel-guard and wrath-guard Two-handed weapons There si a way to get a give these tow summons the look of the legion invasion two handde sword, because warlocks, can get them drooped and can trade because are sould bound and i really want them to use those trasmogsChogarn1 15h
15h Can I just camp a single Elite?? I have recently become bored with World Quests in Broken Isles, and have decided to try and go back and do the Warlock Green Fire questline, but I am curious about getting the Tome of the Lost Legion.... I know that it drops from certain rares on Isle of Thunder, but as they are widely spread out, and I have only been able to find a single spawn point, I am wondering if I can just camp there until I get the tome?? Will that work?? Can I just camp at the same elite mob until it respawns again and again, and still get the tome eventually?? Does anyone know this, or do you HAVE to go after each and every elite on Isle of Thunder?? Thanks in advance!!Cherri7 15h
16h Destro Netherlight is horribly bad i will not stop making threads the 75 artifact comparisons show Destro lagging behind like a mother!@#$er. like, even more so than we are now. this is just another area where our scaling is gimped, and we very clearly no longer have the mechanics to make up for it. where before, we had abilities to help us be assets in progression.. this weird shift to sustained, mediocre single target damage (which was a result of everyone saying "omgomg nerf wh buff st pls" even though i warned everyone smh) has made us rely on damage modifiers to be relevant. and the fun thing about destro is, we have %^-* damage modifiers. take a look at this: Destruction Trait ST value Burning Hunger +2 ilvl Chaotic Instability +2 ilvl Residual Flames +1 ilvl Fire and the Flames +1 ilvl Master of Disaster +1 ilvl Soulsnatcher +1 ilvl Fire From the Sky +0 ilvl Affliction Trait ST value Perdition +4.5 ilvl Shadowy Incantations +4 ilvl Winnowing +3.4 ilvl Inherently Unstable +2.8 ilvl Inimitable Agony +1.9 ilvl Hideous Corruption +1.4 ilvl Drained to a Husk +1.1 ilvl Seeds of Doom +0 ilvl Long Dark Night of the Soul +0 ilvl Shadows of the Flesh +0 ilvl I know demo's netherlight is pretty bad too because of their dependence on imp damage. but i'm sorry demo friends i gotta look out for my own rn. and it's no wonder why we suck. or stat values suck. our damage modifiers suck. our cooldowns suck. our chaos bolt damage sucks. oh, and all of the mechanics we had that made us a good progression spec now also suck because huehueh st huehuehue still no shadowburn huehue limp noodle bolt only does 20% of our overall smhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *disclaimer: aff locks pls dont cry at me for comparingDzdz12 16h
17h RandomBgs-Malefic/contagion vsWrithe/Absolute What do you prefer? I really love the insane dps you can pump out into someone with the contagion spec but now that i have tried the writhe in agony/Absolute corruption build along with soulharvest i am having a tough time trying to pick which is more effective. (i go soul harvest for Writhe/Absolute since i abuse saltwater potions all day every day - Singularity for Contagion)Lmfaobolt2 17h
17h No imps from Hand of Gul'dan if I cast hand of gul'dan and the target dies before it does damage, do I still get the imps? I don't see them physically but the portrait counter comes up. does hand of gul'dan need to do damage to the target to get the ims. just kinda sucks when doing WQ and such because i lose 4 SS and no imps to start attacking next mobExcruc6 17h
17h Lucky Relinquished Trinket drops 915 Arcano Crystal...anyone get luckier than that?Tùnechi49 17h
18h Affliction AOE. Charging through timewalker dungeons and im lucky to get a seed on whilst the Monk tank is rolling 50 yards ahead. The boss is where i slowly get to catch up DPS wise. I partly don't care about numbers but what should I be doing on trash that dies super fast?.Dinkles2 18h
18h Low DPS, help? :( So i've got 17 points into concordance, im 925 Crits at 26 percent with food buff Haste is 32 percent Mastery is 65 percent i have 4 piece. Idk what im doing wrong, i'm lost as hell.Voidservant8 18h
19h Screw Demon Hunters Legion is OUR expansion. It is OUR time to shine. Screw those phony rogues on steroids. Demonology ftw, Metamorphosis ftw, RIP Dark Apotheosis.Felstorm9 19h
22h Remove demonic empowerment so i can play demo The spell itself is absolutely terrible, and the sound of it is twice as worse. Shwing shwing shwing shwing all day long. I dont like the sound of a lawnmower blade hitting a tin garbage can all day long sorry. If i wanted to hear someone run their fingernails across a chalkboard i would just buy a chalkboard and do it myself constantly while i played. Get the picture? Fix the stuff that is broken like come on. It could not be more obvious to the devs all they gotta do is take one look at the warlock forums and figure it out. We don't like the spell or the sound so fix it please. Make it a 3 minute cooldown with an actual sound that is related to summoning demons. How in the world did the sound effects guy think that summoning demons sounds like someone wearing tap shoes just slipped on a tile floor?Blunta21 22h
23h DPS is low low low My demo's dungeon dps is in the toilet. It's embarrassing and I'm surprised whenever I don't get booted from the dungeon (rarely happens and usually it's because I'm running around with the void out and not noticing everyone screaming at me in chat..... ok, so I'm not a great player..... but I'm working on it). My question is do I just need to be patient at this level and wait till end game for better dps with haste, crit gear etc? I'm doing the usual accepted rotation between HoG and Call Dreadstalkers with empowerment while spamming shadowbolt for shards. Doom has proven useless since all the targets get dropped in seconds and often I can't even get a shadowbolt out before the target's deceased. I usually produce between 4 and 6% of the damage in the group. It's depressing. Again, the question, is this just part of being a mid level demo or am I actually doing it wrong?Vapnon11 23h
23h Rate the Warlock Transmog Above You P2 Previous thread has capped, so making a new one for all these spicy transmog shenanigans. ... @Albiondragon, it's a great set despite being overused so much right now. 8/10.Envis101 23h
1d Grimoire of Sacrifice? Hey all, I realize this talent isn't usually recommended lately for optimal DPS but I enjoy the pet free aesthetic while still loving the Warlock class. My question is, which if any of the three specs is the least gimped by actually using this talent? I typically do pretty casual content.. WQ, basic dungeons and raids as well as random BG PVP. Nothing hardcore. Thanks for any suggestions!Essedess22 1d
1d LF more PvP Demo Locks Im so lonely... is there anyone else out there who plays demo pvpwise? surely me and lily cant be the only ones -hugs self and curls up foetal position-Nazumar40 1d
1d Levitate + Doomguard I raided on my shadow priest for a change of pace and try to gear him up last night. I was randomly casting Levitate on people before we had our first pull, and I decided to hook up a lock's Doomguard. Did you know that doing this makes the Doomguard constantly FLAP HIS WINGS AND FLY?!Impcole1 1d
1d Wotlk Demonic empowerment If I remember correctly back then it was an instant cast damage buff on a 30 second cool down which had a different effect depending on what demon was being used. The felguard for example recieved a 20 percent increase to its damage plus all movement imparting effects were removed and it became immune for about ten seconds (plus it turned bright red!) Any reason as to why a refined version of this wasn't implement back in legion beta when it became clear the current demonic empowerment was causing so much trouble? Seems a reasonable solution to me.Lokkedown7 1d
1d Warlocks-fun and good ideas for demo what if blizzard made demonic empowerment a passive and gave demo [demonic calling][impending doom][improve dreadstalkers][hand of doom][grimoire of synergy][demonbolt][soul conduit] and get rid of these talents [shadowy inspiration][power trip][burning rush]grimoire of supremacy] ([implosion] since imp can get root or do no dps to certain classes) and maybe give all locks demonic circle][soul harvest] with the talents left you will have 15 [shadowflames] :30 empty : 45 stays the same but alot of locks would want [shadowfury] to be instant cast ; 60 still be [soul harvest] :75 [demon skin], [dark pact] : 90 [Grimoire of service] :100 [summon darkglare] 15: would be ([Greater Shard] you no longer have 5 soul shard but 6-10 soulshards) ([Shadow of souls] you have 10% chance for each soul shard you spend to inflict heavy damage to your targets. 30([master of time] your dread and imps stay for 22s instead of 11s) other talent will increase your dread and imp dps by alot more. ([implosion]change so now its a passive so before your imp goes away he goes to the target and blow up and cant be stoped and cause a dot to go on the target stack up to 10 and the dot is fel) 45: stays the same 60: 2 tal to replace the 2 gone is ([imp mother] summon an imp mother who last for 24s she summons so many pets and cant be stun or silance, imps count as your pets to, only way to stop her is to kill her or wait for her to go away, hes hard to kill) ([summon mo'arg] Deal havy aoe dps and protect lock last 30s he can attacks any one whos attacking the lock within 30 yards so if your attacking the warlock and you 30 yards or closer to him your gonna get attacked by him) 75: replace [burning rush] with either these old talents [Dark regeneration] [harrvest life] or a new talents. when your about to die you take all your pets hp to heal you hp to 100% hp, doesn't take main pet hp 2m cd 90: will be summon a very powerful pet of your choice and its not just the pets you have but new versions like inquisitor and jailer as your new main pet. other talent you now have 2 current pets their hp is higher so they cant die but their is a price your consumption doesn take hp from your main pets any more. 100: will be powerful pets ([Jailer] roots and slow your targets down if within 20 yards of itand roots all target near where it was summon by 4s-5s within 20yards and deals good dps ([inquisitor] summon eyes that maker the target take lazier damage) i had a hard time coming up with these but these are just ideas idk if i put all my up on here tho. its just gonna make the class feel fun with all the dif types of pets to summon and ... i just hope blizzard takes some of my ideas if not then oh well rip. i got some more ideas like summon a fel bat to carry your target away from you and make them take fall damage but ill save a lot of my ideas for later or never.Arexionah87 1d
1d Warlock Mog Does anyone know of a good warlock mog that doesn't have a robe? thanks <3Blàst30 1d
1d Worth Being Demo? I like Demo. I like the other specs too, but mostly like Demo. Is Demo ok to get into if your just doing lower mythic+ and maybe the occasional heroic raid? Or better to stick to one of the others? I want to be able to pull my weight no matter which spec. Any suggestions? Thanks!Locklass8 1d
1d Warlocks 2nd Bananas? In an expansion all about fighting demons I'm bummed we didn't have a front and center warlock along with Illidan and other major characters.Nozax7 1d
1d Warlock Demon form and your feelings I do not check forums often and haven't really played my warlock since Mists pvp. I know a lot of demon locks hate not having their iconic spell. Demon hunters ripped us off too. I want to know how you guys feel deep down, how disappointed or how you might like not having it? I feel when I did play my warlock, meta was such a unique spell to the spec. It also changed how some spells effected the fight. When I see it on a DH, I feel like blizzard just said warlocks can go Fk themselves.Deadlysin27 1d
1d Is arcano truly BIS? I have a 915 arcano crystal and a 920 trinket that gives flat intellect and mastery. I take that 920 trinket off to put on the arcano and it seems like my stats and damaging spells are lowered. How is arcano BIS when your stats are lowered when it's equipped...?Visagey21 1d
2d Eye of Kilrogg Duration? Is there any way to increase the duration of Eye of Kilrogg? I would like to use it for roleplaying purposes, but the 45 second duration is a pain in the !@#.Catachresis2 2d
2d How Chaos Bolt and CDF stack up vs UA edit: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759248814 ^please go to the above thread and show support for chaos bolt buffs. that's what this thread is intended to highlight - that CB is weak af in comparison to other spenders. and it's chaos bolt ffs. one on a 25s CD and a 2.5s channel, one on a 2.5s cast time and costs 2 shards.. vs a 1 shard, stackable dot WHO WINS? https://i.imgur.com/Rk5N39d.png https://i.imgur.com/O9QeiCN.png lol. destro's big spells getting trucked in DPS, damage per energy spent, and damage per cast time. certainly not making up that gap anywhere else. chaos bolt.. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU? #noodlebolt (i guess i need to put in a disclaimer to try and prevent salty aff locks: this is about destro's abilities being weak. don't want to talk about destro? want to cry about a comparison being made to affliction? go away)Dzdz42 2d
2d Returning lock looking for advice I just came back and not researched much in terms of how affliction has changed. Is Icy Veins still a good source for talents/spell priority? If anyone has any other helpful links or tips I'd greatly appreciate it.Lucrend6 2d
2d Pick 3 spells you want back/baseline Heres my 3 that i want back/baseline metamorphosis -name changed To demonic ascension- instant-turn into a demon empowering your abilities and increasing all of your secondary stats by 15% for 20 seconds. 1.5 min cd. abilities Shadowbolt=shadowbolt volley-1.5 sec cast, deal damage to the target and all targets within 15 yards of it. Gain 1 soul shard for all targets hit. Doom=bane of doom-instant-doom tics 2 times (50% duration, and end of duration), and also summons a doomguard to attack the target for the duration. Hand of guldan=hand of chaos-1.5 sec cast-2 or 4 soul shards (2 soul shards= 1 infernal, 4 soul shards=2 infernals)-summon a meteor dealing damage to the target and all targets within 8 yards. 1-2 infernals will rise from the meteor to aid for for 15 sec. Doomguard=pitlord Infernal=overfiend demonic portal/teleport-baseline darkglare-baselineHoundgirl38 2d
2d Twitch peeps Im 29 have a beard, going through the typical 29 year old think the world is flat quarter life !@#$. i listen to Celtic music, then techno then say f it and putt on kanye or melodic death metal. eat pizza, own a chihuahua, my girlfriend makes me wizard hats that I wear in public because gandalf is cooler then call of duty My twitch is bighatkhayman, ( www.twitch.com/bighatkhayman ) I have been streaming about 6 months, I have just started to stream leveling a lok from 1-110 on a new account and am either looking for some good people to watch or some people to stop in and say whats up, my channel usually has around 5-20 viewers. If you want to come bull%^-* and talk specs, life etc come say whats up my times are mon-friday usually afternoons-evening. Also if you know any good streamers or stream yourself lets network!Khayman4 2d
2d How is destro in high level keystones? I play affliction warlock for my other raid team but am loving destro. How is the spec faring in plus 11-20 keystones? Is it rare? I gather that affliction is rather tanky but is destro less so?Aerbota4 2d
2d Updated Animations Where are they???, it’s a kick in the teeth for the warlock community to be left out being the only class that hasn’t had its animations updated. You said they weren’t ready by 7.3 so I figured ok we will see them in a couple weeks to a month. Nothing but dead silence from blues regarding us, shadow priests get fantastic animations and I’m standing beside him standing there like a gimp. I’m all for taking your time to get it right but atleast keep the Warlock community updated as to how much longer we need to wait. TL;DR - Where are the updated warlock animations and how long can we expect to wait?.Mestefica14 2d
2d dz's 7.3.5 number tuning Destro suggestions https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759298729 pls support destro boofs in thread ^ ...Dzdz9 2d
3d Warlock Theorycrafting Hey all, I'd just like to start out by saying that I've been a relatively casual player since I started playing back in early WotLK. I've never done any serious progression raiding into harder difficulties or been a part of any genuine guild that stuck together longer than a few months. Sparring anyone brave enough to read my ramblings of all the needless details of my current state of mind regarding my pathetic adoration of this wonderful game, I'd like to change that first paragraph into something that resembles, simply put, the polar opposite. Of course I'd like to just get into a high end progression guild and start collecting all those delicious purples right away but I know that's a bit silly and there's some steps I need to take before getting into that, at least I assume so. First of all, I'd like to take some time and really master my class. I fell in love with the warlock for some inexplicable reason recently and have decided to use it as my class that I'll take forward into the blinding glory that I'm sure high end mythic raiding offers, ten thousand wipes and headache pills aside, I'm very patient. So, including starting this sentence with a conjunction, I'd like to ask my fellow fel fueled freaks a few questions, if you would all be so kind as to indulge this fool's request. First up, what is a good (but preferably best) source to learn in depth on how warlocks work? And (conjunction!) I mean spreadsheets, many maths, numbers and such, I want to really understand how the class works and get a grip on it all so that I can eventually achieve my wildest dreams of being the tippity top of the greatest... warlocks.... in a game... Should be noted that I've already combed through the LockOneStopShop many times and just recently purchased a fine toothed one to do so again. Secondly, and this one is directed at, and only, to the super mega ultra badass mythic raiders reading this, when would you say is a good time for me to really start to look for a guild to get my feet wet in some actual progression? I obviously don't expect to join Method or the likes tomorrow, I just mean something like a regular heroic progression guild and ruthlessly use them as a stepping stone to join a cult (or a guild) that will squash casuals like the vile little insects they are (that I am). I can't think of anything else right now, but believe you me, if I think of something, I'll write it up right quick, faster than my heroic pug died at host the other night, a true spear of anguish in my heart, my tormented cries emanating from my wailing soul, culminating in a shattering scream that just ruptured my... bonecage armor... (I gave up at this point). Thank you! TL:DR: HelpDrspooky11 3d
3d Character SIM Aff Lock Hey fellow Locks!! Need help! How do i sim my character for mythic plus. Which setting should i go? 4 target? patchwork? 3 4 5 min? Appreciate if anyone could help.Tetsuuya0 3d
3d Bring Back Kil'jadens Cunning !! I recently posted a question about whats the best spec for Warlocks wpvp survivability .. and one of my fellow lock posted a Great comment !! It was from Chåoslord and he said... "It was so awsome to run and cast. As a passive. This would probably fix demonology that suffers while moving. I think what hurt the most though was the adding cast time to everything. Melee is powerful n will probably win pvp championship"[/quote] OK, i get it..maybe we were a lil' "BEAST" at some point but this is literally 2 xpacs later and everyone else seems even ( as in MOBILITY & POWER..almost) but here we are (Warlocks) can Barely get a cast off in time due to the power and mobility against melee..by the time we attempt to cast a defense or offensive maneuver..we 're taking tons of damage or bleeds ,almost dead... IF you love being a lock stand with me and Demand Kil'jadens Cunning return as a passive!! As long as i play wow and Pay for my account ( because we are giving them our money ) I will continue to demand Kil'jadens Cunning return as a Passive!! and Not only as a pvp talent but a regular passive talent!!Gruldan8 3d