Oct 11 Warlocks - Your class needs you! Thread List V0.71 I think it might be pertinent to keep a record of all threads supporting the cause of Warlocks having a fair crack of the whip or at the very least some response to the growing concerns. This is merely a starting point. If I have missed your thread, one you have seen or you feel a thread included does more harm than good please comment below. NEW UPDATE: Further to recent posts in this bread I will add new suggestions in this section: Blizz you owe warlocks an apology. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759262165 Significant Rework of Demo in Bfa https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759495907 Demonology Changes https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759162485 List of Bad decisions about Warlocks https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759147063 Demo feels awkward. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20757707315 Warlocks-fun and good ideas for demo https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758226616 My only advice for Demo Rework https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759386670 Make Demonology Great Again https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759237339 This expansion turning into a JOKE https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759168385 MoP Vs Legion Warlock, Which did you enjoy? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758837845 Demonic Empowerment has to Go https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749305603 Felguard pet needs a new skin https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749837174 Demonology being fixed? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758708558 Battle for Azeroth Demo Design https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759387936 What would u like to see on demo in BFA? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759606343 Threads concerning the collation of warlock issues: Calling mechanics masters! All specs: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748845055 [Legion] Compilation of Suggestions/Bugs: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748805127 Unified Tuning Feedback: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748765378 We did it!: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748704898 THIS IS DEFLATE COMPRESSED VERSION OF OLD THREAD INDEX TO SAVE SPACE Quick link to uncompressed content here: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748645930?page=9#post-163 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 DECOMPRESS HERE: http://www.txtwizard.net/compression ARCHIVE OF POST @0.69 HERE: https://pastebin.com/ucjYKgV6 https://web.archive.org/web/20171120155628/https://pastebin.com/ucjYKgV6 The purpose of this is to allow you, the concerned Warlock, to have a quick reference to threads which MAY get the attention of Blizzard. Please constructively contribute to these threads. Again, there will be threads I have missed. I will of course add relevant threads to the master list as they are provided. Addendum: PvE guides (I think this may prove helpful to some and give these threads the attention they deserve) Affliction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747875438 (Cryptrot) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/affliction-warlock-pve-dps-guide Demonology : http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748656161 (Nakkiel) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/demonology-warlock-pve-dps-guide Destruction: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745707140 (Aldeen) http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/destruction-warlock-pve-dps-guide Warlock Web Resources: Lock One Stop Shop http://lockonestopshop.com/#!/Home Change log: 0.71 Added a few more relevant threads. 0.7 Text compression used to save space. Post as of 0.69 archived. 0.69 Stardate 20/11/2017, Earth. Added new section of new suggestions. Will look at compressing old sections to save space in post. 0.68 Added web resources section, starting with Lock One Stop Shop 0.67 Added A long rational post about Affliction 0.66 Added Class Fantasy, and why we should Tame Demon Added Demon Variety and Customization 0.65 Added An In-Depth Look at Affliction 0.64 Added ~Warlock Dev Hotfix Suggestions Thread~ 0.63 Added To Ion: From Affliction Warlock Added Hotfix thread 0.62 Added On current and future Warlock design Added Warlock Changes. A constructive thread. 0.61 Added Observations from an 838 AFF warlock 0.6 Added EU Warlock forum threads where appropriate, same provisos apply 0.54 Added A list of what we have lost these last years Added Icy Veins PvE guides 0.53 Added Demonology changes hurt class fantasy. 0.52 Added Unified Tuning Feedback 0.51 Added [Legion] Compilation of Suggestions/Bugs 0.5 Added section concerning issue collation Sorted content alphabetically - should have done this from the start :D 0.44 Added Warlock Feedback! Attention Please 0.43 Added Legion PvP feedback section and included linked threads 0.42 Integrated Baalsamael post in format consistent with OP 0.41 Added Calling all Warlock Voices 3 0.4 Added Baalsamael post Added A Treatise of Destruction 0.34 Added Cancelling My Subscription 0.33 Added Short Analysis of Warlocks from Cata to now 0.321 Fixed categorization error 0.32 Added Where are these comments on hotfixes? 0.31 Added Calling All Warlock Voices 2 Added How I thought Demonology was gonna work 0.3 Added Demonology PvE guide 0.25 Added Mop Destro vs WoD/Legion 0.24 Added Destruction Warlocks in Legion 0.23 Added [FEEDBACK] Problems with Warlock Animations Added Legion Beta General Discussion Sub-forum section 0.22 Added Warlock Nerf List 0.21 Added PvE guides 0.2 Not Happy With Demo ATM - A Rant addedPoynty174 Oct 11
Jun 15 [Coming Soon...] Warlock Help Resources Since this thread will likely be stuck here for a while, I'm going to update this first post to be a hub for where you should turn when looking for help with your Lock. Expect an update within the week. ... Introduction This guide is written to be a quick reference for those looking to get an idea of how to play Destruction and those who are looking to improve their performance with the spec. It is split into two sections, the first forming a short guide, answering common questions that are asked around the forums, including Talent choices, Stat priority and rotation. The second section describes how to log and analyse your performance. Foreword Heading into BFA and with the existence of LOSS, it feels like the longer Guides that used to exist on this forum are either redundant, because they echo exactly what LOSS has but without the sim data, or caused problems when they (the Destro guide I wrote) conflicted with what LOSS was saying due to late updates or errors. My goal with revising this guide is to condense it to the point that its easier to update when changes occur, it only focuses on common questions/queries that people on the forums have without stepping on LOSS' toes too much by trying to go super in depth about every point, whilst keeping this guide as a handy and informative quick reference for anyone in the forums who sees it and has some simple questions. Table of Contents 1 - Basics and Common Questions 1. Talents and Suggested Builds 2. Rotation 3. Stat Priority, Enchants and Consumables 4. Addons and Macros2 - Logging and Analysis 1. How To Log 2. Quick Log Analysis Points 3. How to Ask For Help3 - Sources 1. Data and Sims 2. Other Sources4 - Conclusion ... 1-1 Talents and Suggested Builds Talent Calculator: http://wowhead.com/talent-calc/warlock/destruction Tier One: Backdraft currently performs the best in this tier, with there being almost no situation in which Roaring Blaze and Shadowburn are preferable. Tier Two: In single target and 2 target cleave, Eradication is your best choice; 3 or more targets, particularly in dungeons, Empowered Life Tap performs better. Reverse Entropy is currently not useful compared to the other two. Tier Three: Demonic Circle is going to be your go-to for raids, unless you specifically require a stun. Shadowfury is good for dungeons, specifically in Mythic+. Mortal Coil's heal can be useful, but for the most part is too niche for general PvE use. Tier Four: Soul Harvest is your best choice for 1 and 2 targets. For 3+, Fire and Brimstone tends to outperform Cataclysm in all situations outside of burst AoE with very short windows that lines up very closely with Cataclysm's CD. Tier Five: Burning Rush tends to be the go-to given our limited movement options, especially in dungeons. When picking between survivability options, Demon Skin will perform well in situations with constant small damage, whilst Dark Pact performs better where you are required to soak mechanics or when damage is infrequent and large. Tier Six: Grimoire of Service is your go-to in ST, with Grimoire of Sacrifice beginning to pull ahead on consistent 3+ targets. Grimoire of Supremacy tends to be avoided due to its cumbersome interaction with Lord of Flames (being triggered by Infernal's Meteor Strike w/ Supremacy). Tier Seven: Wreak Havoc should be used when there are consistently 2-3 targets to cleave. In all other situations you should use Channel Demonfire; Soul Conduit can arguably out perform it in 4+ AoE situations. Suggested ST Build Tier One: Backdraft Tier Two: Eradication Tier Three: Demonic Circle Tier Four: Soul Harvest Tier Five: Any Tier Six: Grimoire of Service Tier Seven: Channel Demonfire Suggested Dungeon Build Tier One: Backdraft Tier Two: Empowered Life Tap (Eradication if boss damage is important) Tier Three: Shadowfury Tier Four: Fire and Brimstone Tier Five: Burning Rush Tier Six: Grimoire of Service Tier Seven: Any ... 1-2 Rotation Basic Single Target Rotation This subsection is intended as a quick reference for players unfamiliar with the Destro spellbook. More advanced tips can be found in the following sections. Keep Immolate up as close to 100% of the time as possible. Cast Chaos Bolt under either of the following scenarios: A) Damage increasing effects are active (trinket procs, Soul Harvest, encounter mechanics that increase damage, etc.) B) You are about to cap at 5 Soul Shards. Its suggested to cast Chaos Bolt at ~4.5 Shards unless deliberately building towards 5 for burst. Keep one charge of Conflagrate on cooldown, saving one for burst or movement. Keep one charge of Dimensional Rift on cooldown, saving two for burst or movement. (Save only one charge once you get Dimensional Ripper to ensure you get the most out of the trait). Cast Incinerate Basic Multiple Target Rotation Once you encounter more than one target, your priorities need to change. At 2 Targets: Keep Immolate up on both targets. Use Havoc to cleave powerful spells onto both targets eg. Chaos Bolts/Roaring Blaze Immolates. Continue ST rotation otherwise. At 3+ Targets: Keep Immolate up on 3-5 targets Cast Rain of Fire when 3+ targets are present, 4+ targets if you can Havoc cleave Chaos Bolts instead Keep one charge of Conflagrate on cooldown, saving one for burst or movement. Keep one charge of Dimensional Rift on cooldown, saving two for burst or movement. (Save only one charge once you get Dimensional Ripper to ensure you get the most out of the trait). Cast Incinerate Opening Sequence (~3 seconds before pull) Pre-pot Pre-cast Incin Pre-cast Immolate (Pull)Conflag Pet CDs Rifts SH Conflag Continue normal rotation Notes: You can fit a second pre-casted Incinerate at max distance, in which case you should start pre-casting at ~5 seconds. With CDF + Eradication, you should cast your first CDF after your first CB lands. Otherwise after SH is up. Advanced Rotation Roaring Blaze When choosing this Talent, you will no longer be saving Conflags for burst or movement, instead saving them to buff a Pandemic'd Immolate (18 sec + 5.4 = 23.4 seconds long). You will end up weaving Immolates like this: Buffed Immolate -> Immolate falls off -> Standard Immolate til all Conflag charges gained -> Buffed Immolate -> ... The number of Conflags you should use on a single Immolate varies depending on T19 2pce and Haste procs/cooldowns; generally you should use all your banked charges plus one additional charge as it comes off cooldown. You should use one extra charge (possibly 2 with T19 2pce) during lust/hero/warp or similar Haste buff. To minimise the time that Immolate is not on your target, you should cast Immolate with about 1 second left on a buffed Immolate, which will allow the buffed Immolate to get its partial tick out and have an Immolate reapplied soon after. Keep this Immolate rolling as normal until you are about to max Conflag charges, at which point you should apply Immolate such that you get the full duration, then cast your Conflags, rinse and repeat. Roaring Blaze: TL;DR: Your use of Immolate and Conflag should look like this (assume we already have a standard Immolate up): Pool all Conflags -> Reapply Immolate to max out duration (~23 seconds) -> Use all Conflags -> Use one more Conflag off cooldown -> Start casting Immolate with < 1 second left on Immolate (letting Immolate fall off) -> Pool all Conflags -> Repeat Movement Destruction has trouble dealing damage on the move, and in Legion we have very few options for something to cast when we are forced to move. Taking Demonic Circle and planning positioning can minimise the amount of movement you'll be forced into. When you are forced to move, your options are rather small: Havoc (only when you can benefit from cleaving spells with it). Life Tap (except when talented into RE) Dimensional Rift. Conflag/Shadowburn (except when talenting Roaring Blaze). Life Tap and Movement tl;dr: In encounters with movement, you should float low % Mana when not moving and prioritise casting it when you're forced to move. Life Tap is one of the few instants we have to use on the move, so its important that when we have to move we can cast it so that we have more casting options on the move, possibly saving more important instants and ensuring we can continue our rotation even when forced to move. However, it doesn't give us value unless it refills mana, because tapping when it won't is just hurting yourself and eating GCDs with no benefit. To make sure that we can Tap on the move and get value out of it, we should aim to float at reasonably low mana while not moving. This allows you to focus more on casting other spells while you don't have to move and gives you up to 3 more GCDs that can be filled while moving that isn't Conflag or DR. ... 1-3 Stat Priority, Enchants and Consumables These priorities will change based on Talent choices, Artifact progression, target counts, as well as gear and leggos you have. The priorities and enchants/gems suggested below will provide a good stat priority for most situations. Stat Priorities Generally: Haste >= Crit >= Vers = Mastery Stats end up being pretty close to each other in value, so you generally want ilvl > stats (besides rings and neck pieces). For more accurate stat weights for your character/gear/leggos, you should sim yourself. For more information you can read the following guide on how to use Raidbots to sim your character: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OntnJ9ewxJ3L__iDn-R9qYukRBDW7429AJiv3NGZ_2M Note: If you invest heavily in mastery, you will experience swings in damage from fight to fight based on how lucky you are. If you would rather have a more consistent build, consider avoiding Mastery in favor of other stats Gems Currently, socketing Haste gems should be your priority. You may also have one Saber's Eye of Intellect in your equipped armour, but these are expensive, so socket these wisely. Enchants For Ring enchants, Haste should also be your priority. Cloak enchants are main stat, so use Intellect. Mark of the Claw is currently our best neck enchant. Food, Flasks and Pots You should be using Haste food, Flask of the Whispered Pact and Potion of Deadly Grace or Potion of Prolonged Power (these are about neck and neck in performance, PP pulling ahead on multitarget). ... 1-4 Addons and Macros Addons Addons can be an incredibly valuable addition to your WoW experience and performance when used correctly. While specific addons and functionality are largely preferential, this subsection will list some of the widely recommended addons to help play your character as best you can. WeakAuras 2: A very powerful addon capable of displaying auras for practically anything you can think of. Ability CDs, proc durations, fight mechanics and more, its easily one of the more important addons to consider using when playing any class. Whilst it's setup can be quite involved, you can import other people's WA setups using import strings. Not's Spec WAs: https://notsthoughts.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/weak-aura-hosting/ TellMeWhen: A simpler alternative to WeakAuras. Whilst its capable of less then WA, its far easier to get started without assistance. I've personally used this throughout WoD and would highly recommend this to anyone that feels WA seems too intimidating or hard to work with. TidyPlates: A simplistic addon useful for showing DoT/Debuff durations on targets and generally making it easier to play in a multi-target situation. Certain other addons include this function as part of their setup, i.e. ElvUI. Deadly Boss Mods, BigWigs, or any other encounter-assistance addons: Not a Warlock specific addon, but these do help increase your DPS and survivability by making it easier to not mess up encounter mechanics. GTFO: A pretty simple addon, it will play annoying noises when you take damage, particularly to unavoidable damage in dungeon/raid encounters. Good if you want extra cues for when you mess up. Macros Warlocks aren't too reliant on Macros to perform well, but they are a useful tool to improve the usability of some spells in order to increase your performance. In this subsection, I'll be listing useful, common macros. Stop-cast Shadowburn This macro will cancle any spell being currently cast to cast Shadowburn. Useful when Shadowburn sniping for Shards. #showtooltip Shadowburn /stopcasting /cast Shadowburn Mouseover Havoc This macro will cast Havoc on a target your mouse is hovering over. #showtooltip Havoc /cast [@mouseover] Havoc Replace Demonic Circle This macro will remove your current Circle and replace it at your current location. Note: Due to the redesign of Demonic Circle, this macro will go on cooldown with the use of Demonic Circle since it has to cast it to replace the circle. #showtooltip Demonic Circle /cancelaura Demonic Circle /cast Demonic CircleAldeen286 Jun 15
Feb 11 [Still True] Guide to Logging Introduction Due to the recent patch and the changes that Warlocks, among other classes, have undergone, people are now more than ever concerned about how they are performing. I believe that the best way to evaluate performance is in evaluating your logs--and, without knowledge of how to analyze logs, or how to log, that's impossible. This guide should cover those sufficiently and allow interested players to improve their performance, or, if they would prefer, ask for help. Foreword Please feel welcome to dispute anything posted. I am very dedicated to making an accurate guide that keeps up with all the newest theorycrafting, and to that extent, I will be doing my best to keep up with recent information--but nobody is perfect. Table of Contents 1 - How to Log-1: WarcraftLogs -2: Downloading/Running Logs -3: Known Bugs 2 - Guide to Reading Logs-1: The Interface -2: The Tabs 3 - How to Evaluate Performance Using Logs-1: Basics -2: Destruction -3: Affliction -4: Demonology 4 - Conclusion-1: Afterword -2: Help with Evaluation Guide to Navigating the Thread: If you want to jump to a specific section in the thread, use Ctrl-F and type in the section number, then a dash, then the subsection number. For example, if I wanted to jump to the Known Bugs section, which is in Section 1, and is Subsection 3, I'd type "1-3" into Ctrl-F! ... 1-1: WarcraftLogs WarcraftLogs (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/) is a World of Warcraft fansite dedicated to hosting interactive combat logs and fight rankings for current and past raids in WoW. It is commonly used, to great effect, to evaluate how well someone is performing compared to other players of their spec and to optimal play. By the end of this guide, it is my belief that you will both understand how to evaluate logs and why we evaluate logs. -Why Warcraft Logs? Warcraft Logs is a lot more user-friendly and in-depth than World of Logs--not to mention that its developers (who I am wholly unrelated to) are continuing to update and build on its foundation, where World of Logs, to my knowledge, is remaining stagnant. 1-2: Downloading/Setting Up the Logs Client The WarcraftLogs website is fairly self-explanatory with regards to setting up the client, but in any guide for log analysis must be a guide for actually logging. I've broken it down into a 3 step system. 1: Go to https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ 2: Find this [ http://puu.sh/dxBDb/3fed32d7d1.png ] section--it's in the upper right-hand corner of the home screen. Click "Sign Up," and make an account! 3: Now that you're logged in, go to where you clicked "Sign Up"--your username will have replaced that option! Click your username, and a dropdown menu will appear. Select "Download Client" and install it! Then, start the client on your computer while playing WoW. This window should appear: [ http://puu.sh/dTL5x/25b02f7b54.jpg ] From there, hit Live Log, and you'll arrive at this screen: [ http://puu.sh/dTLcR/ad07786613.jpg ] Then, if you wish, you can select what page to record your logs on (the default, as you can see, is Personal Logs), and click go! Then, all you need to do is enter World of Warcraft, enter "/combatlog" and raid! All the combat you're doing is now being recorded in real time to Warcraft Logs, where it can be analyzed. When you're done, simply type "/combatlog" again in-game to stop recording combat logs, and click "Stop" on the client! Advanced Combat Logging: In game, to enable Advanced Combat Logging, access the main menu (usually by clicking escape), select System, select Network, and check the boss for Advanced Combat Logging. 1-3: Known Bugs Sometimes, when attempting to log, the client will record nothing, or state "Error - Bad Line". While this is not intended, it is more common than isolated--it can be fixed by simply restarting logs. ... 2-1: The Interface The WarcraftLogs interface is intuitive and user-friendly. An example of a log is one of my Personal Logs, found at [ http://tinyurl.com/k66hywk ]. I will be using this log for the purposes of demonstration throughout this guide. [ http://puu.sh/dxCDv/bb44cf32ef.png ] The image above is what you will first see when reading a log. The first page it shows you (the one shown) is a summary of the various measures of performance recorded by the service. Each of the different tabs (Damage Done, Damage Taken, Healing) will take you to a page that details each individual type of performance. These will be covered in the following section. The Graph The Graph can be manipulated and modified to display only certain data--whether you wish to focus on a specific player, a specific damaging mechanic, or a specific portion of the fight. To access a specific portion, simply click and drag from one end of the graph you'd like to observe to the other--it'll automatically display only the information from that slice of the graph. To display a specific player or mechanic, simply select that option from one of the tables below the graph. The Options The options, located in the upper left hand of your screen, will look similar to these [ http://puu.sh/dxD8d/4b43537a58.jpg ]. Each of the selections (The Butcher, All Friendlies, etc.) have a small arrow to their right--indicating the presence of a dropdown menu. You can select these to choose which boss you would like to observe (selecting The Butcher, in this case), which kill of that boss (if there is more than one in a log), or which player/enemy you would like to observe (selecting "All Friendlies" in this case). Views Located just below the graph are three tabs: Tables View, Events View, and Fight Analysis. Tables View provides the standard table of values--useful in other sections for viewing uptimes, percentages, and other numeric values. Events View simply lists each combat log event by time, useful for determining specific cast orders or time between events. [ http://puu.sh/dxDDd/b792b43c05.png ] Fight Analysis is a handy, automatic, mechanics analysis of the fight. It's useful for determining who caused wipes, or what went wrong on a kill. 2-2: The Tabs Damage Done: This is likely your primary tab of interest. When evaluating warlock DPS, it is one of the main two tabs that you will actually be interested in. When you click this tab, it will default to taking you to a screen similar to the summary--a graph, with a tables view of Damage Done and DPS beneath it. [ http://puu.sh/dxDS9/076101ed08.png ] From here, you can observe how your DPS is compared to the rest of your raid for the fight. However, for evaluation, we must look at the specifics. From there, you would click on your name from the tables view--which would take you to a tables view of your abilities used and damaging effects. [ http://puu.sh/dxE0m/b583e10694.png ] Damage Taken This tab is similar in nature to Damage Done, but displays Damage Taken instead. You can use it to determine uptimes of damaging debuffs and other effects in the same manner you would with Damage Done. It is, however, not entirely relevant to evaluating Warlock DPS (very useful to determine who's draining your healers' mana, though!) Healing This tab is similar to both Damage Done and Damage Taken, but again, deals with healing and healing buffs instead. Useful to determine how much you're healing for with self-heals, but not relevant to DPS. Buffs For Warlock DPS analysis, the Buffs tab will be fairly invaluable. It is a graph -- which is less interesting than the preeceeding tabs' graphs -- and a table containing the uptimes of Damage, Defensive, Healing, Movement, and Raid buffs, in addition to stances and unknown buffs. The reason it's important to Warlocks is not to determine if someone had buffs--but to determine how they're reacting to Trinket Procs, using Dark Soul, using their potions, or even Fire and Brimstone in some situations. If you click on a particular player, it will take you to a screen similar to this one: [ http://puu.sh/dxEIj/ae75429356.png ] Debuffs This tab is less important than the others in terms of DPS analysis, but functions similarly to buffs--but with debuffs. Deaths This tab simply displays deaths and the time leading to those deaths--it can be invaluable in determining who is at fault for a given death. Interrupts This tab displays all interrupts used and can be used to fix issues in interrupt orders in raids. Dispels This tab displays dispells and can be used to determine which player is dispelling the most, or if someone dispelled something they were not meant to. Works for both Offensive and Healer dispells. Resources This tab allows you to view resource expenditure/generation over a fight. It can be used for Demonic Fury, Burning Embers, and Soul Shards and displays raw gain, wasted amount, and net gain. Casts This tab displays number of casts, time spent casting, et cetera. It's especially useful to assist in correcting an opening sequence or observing a particular set of casts (such as a Hand of Gul'dan 2-stacking mishap). Summons Shows all pet, minion, guardian, and demon summons throughout a fight. Replay This feature can show the positioning of players throughout a given fight provided the logging player is using "advanced combat logging," an option found in-game. ... 3-1: The Basics Before you evaluate each given spec, it's helpful to know what kind of things you're going to be looking for. -DoT/Debuff Uptimes: You are going to be looking through the Damage Done section of a Warlock's spellcasts, looking for Damage over Time or other debuffs effects such as Immolate, Corruption, Haunt or Doom. Different DoTs or Debuffs will call for different uptimes. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGe8/43d53f1d91.png ] -Cast Ratios: You may also be looking for ratios of one spells' casts to another. This can be done very easily by looking at the casts column and checking numbers. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGkX/81bd70a89b.png ] -Buff Usage: All specs have some degree of resource pooling for certain procs or cooldowns. You will be comparing the amount of certain buffs cast, such as Dark Soul or on-use trinkets, the times that randomly proccing trinkets activate, and more to determine how effectively someone is using their spells. An example: [ http://puu.sh/dxGsY/f960820817.png ] WAITING FOR 7.2.5, WILL UPDATE SOON! ... 4-1: Afterword I am not the best Warlock, and I accept this--however, I am passionate about this class, and intend to go forward in WoD with stronger progression and theorycrafting than before. I especially hope that I can help new or returning Warlocks--or even experienced Warlocks who want to brush up on their play--improve and perform better as time goes forward. 4-2: Help with Evaluation If you'd like for a more experienced Warlock to look over your logs and provide their insight, simply post a link to the logs and some basic background information in the thread below. There is a great number of experienced, skilled, and helpful Warlocks around who enjoy doing just that!Hedo110 Feb 11
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8m Demonic Gateway 160: Hi, I'm new here I dont like to stress the fact that the warlock rocks, but he just does,So, for all you staff users out there, feel free to come in and post, my staff is a good one, but here is how it goes 1. post message in the room 2. LOOK IT OVER 3. dont report anything, i might get in treble :) 4. "Eppdawg" is not allowed to cep and 5. Have fun!! and 6. keep on truckin' ganksta http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19288699802 IndexClare131 8m
9m Demo>Destro>Affliction Prove me wrongMordecaí9 9m
1h Nether Portal (Demo lvl 100 talent) I would like to voice my concern about this talent, in an attempt to have someone at blizzard look at it. First thing is first, I am a warlock main since 2005. I got 2k with lock last season (Legion season 7), I've gotten AotC from Gul'dan to Argus. I got KSM (finish a +15 under the time limit), and all of the warlock mage towers done. I am not here to boast about what I've done, just showing that I have more experience than most with with class. Now back to the point at hand. This talent either needs to be removed entirely or seriously reworked. I say this because choosing this talent encourages you to play the spec wrong. Here is why: It costs 3 soul Shards which is a lot considering we need to be spending 3 soul shards on Hand of Gul'dan The cast time is an eternity You only get 1 demon per demon summoned regardless if you spend multiple soul shards on it The best way to utilize this talent is to take power siphon and use it while Tyrant is active, so you end up killing imps that get empowered by the Tyrant to maybe get 3 extra demons out. I suggest taking away the soul shards requirements to drop the portal, and make it so you get demons out per soul shards spent (excluding dread stalkers and vile feind). And make it last 15 sec rather rather than 20 sec. This would make this a more viable choice and buff up demo's ST damage.Baâl17 1h
1h OG Black Harvest where you at! where are all my og at. I wished they took away the tome. make everyone who has green flame extra special.Clare78 1h
1h Drain soul How bad am I gimping myself if I play this? I'm just really over deathbolt... I hate the way it functions, it has the worst animation ever, and I hate being tied to a talent because Blizzard doesn't have the foresight to see how powerful it'll beBartholomew16 1h
1h Movement/CC So we all know we suck for both these things, but what would you do to fix, what I think is the biggest problem with the class atm? One of my biggest problems is shadow lock, which is a hugely broken mechanic and believe it should be taken out completely. I can get stunned, trinket out, shadow locked, and I'm done for. If I've popped UR I'm super boned. Thoughts?Falconrik1 1h
3h Miss Doomguard? I liked the new model they made at the end of a WoD. What’s the point of updating the 11 year old doomguard model and then t move it 2 expansions later? I haven’t been able to proc the dg off Doom since the beta :(. Feelsbadman. Also miss the Abyssal/Terrorguard that we had in Mop/WodMordecaí3 3h
4h Demo on Mother - HOW IS THIS STILL BROKEN? Blizzard, we still do not get any Demonic Core stacks from the expiration of Dreadstalkers. We're two months into this raid, how is this issue still around?Nyntein7 4h
6h Afflicition easy to use for noobs? Im a new player and wondering if it is easy to affliciton lock? Like are there too many buttons to click or do i have to memorize rotations? Or do i just maintain dots up etc? I am asking for help because i like lock but in raids i wanna focus on mechanics and less of the proper rotation so im looking for an easy dps class(except hunters)that puts good numbers Hope u guys could help me out thanksSylvsana32 6h
6h Wild Imp Spell Damage Hey everyone. Fair warning, I don't pretend to understand even half of what goes into numbers and such for damage and things, but I was looking into something and found out that Demonology's Wild Imps do Shadow Damage with their attacks. I was curious how much of an impact it would have on the talent options as a whole if that was to change to Shadowflame damage instead, to better interact with the talent 'From the Shadows'. From what I've read, for most people at least, it seems to be the least desirable talent in that row, but I personally enjoy it because it doesn't pigeon-hole me into one single demon like Soul Strike. And yes, it bothers me to use only the Felguard because then I'm not able to use interrupts or CC without a loss of damage output. Mechanically, I prefer adjusting what demon I'm using situation to situation in a dungeon or raid, so I don't like talents like Soul Strike. And yes, Summon Vilefiend is nice, but I don't like how it feels like 'just an extra button to hit'. That's me personally. I like a simpler rotation. Just something I was thinking about is all. Wondered what my fellow summoners thought about that talent row. Figured I'd throw this up here and see what the responses are like.Specsifier7 6h
7h Affliction vs Shadow Are both close? Or very different? Any idea which is more funAcamaar1 7h
7h I'm a free kill Feels bad manLestatmarius9 7h
7h Orc or undead? I’m going to switch to horde but I can’t decide between orc and undead. I like the way undead looks but armor looks a lot better on orc. What do you guys think I should pick?Darkrinzler16 7h
7h Ion's Q&A from 10/11 and affliction warlocks Anyone else worried about what will happen to affliction warlocks in 8.1 Ion does mention that they plan to beef up affliction survivability which is awesome. However, he goes onto to say that affliction should be more about multi-dotting and less about single target. I got worried when he mentioned it. It kind of sounds like they plan to nerf single target, but will they actually adequately beef up multi target to make up for it? Or will they just butcher the class Blizzard-style? In case you missed it, it is located at 33:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoLgP6lUKnY&t=2167sDrusillia26 7h
7h Demo and Destruction My sister and I just started two warlocks and one of us went Demo and the other went Destruction. Which one is better at aoe or single target? So far as Destruction I'm always above my sister in dmg and dps. So I'm just kinda wondering what each spec excels at.Rinheart9 7h
8h 3 months into BfA and ..... I'm still seeing ghosts, My only guess is that they have so many bugs / fixes that they just don't have time to fix character classes for a buff that is no longer current as of BfA https://i.imgur.com/UhnRxEv.jpg Does anyone have a work around for this?Kathyna9 8h
9h Been a melee only player for 10 years I have a level 100 warlock from a boost a while ago. However, its hard to get me out of a melee mindset so i struggle with playing casters. I want to level my warlock but how do i break the melee mindset and adjust to playing a caster class? also which spec for lvling/120 content? Thanks in advance for the helpZhonn7 9h
9h Prince malchezer? So last night while beatin down on a horde at the azerite quest, the prince spawned, and it was my minion. Very cool...what causes him to spawn?Aglaica9 9h
11h Chaos Bolt vs Greater Pyro I'm a fan of big numbers and apparently fire mage is swinging greater pyros for 35% hp? Maybe I'm just looking for a reason to stay with lock. Thanks guys.Crookedmán5 11h
11h Bring back MoP warlocks. The class design was honestly good. Affliction was the cancerous spec. Destro had long casts but so !@#$ing rewarding. Idk about demo because i didnt like it. But just the general design of warlock back then was great.Roxycodone39 11h
13h How far behind is demo Title How far behind affliction is it? I know it's aoe is superior, but what about single target? Or cleave? Also, how does it fair against destruction in terms of single target, and aoe? I'm asking because I am not satisfied with affliction playstyle currently. I hate being a burst machine with nothing in between dark glare... So, I'm looking at switching to demo because I do like it's playstyle and the whole summoner vibe is appealing to meBartholomew11 13h
19h Dark Soul: Misery during Lust? During a fight, when you lust on pull, is it best to use DS: Misery during the lust or after? I use it after to increase the duration, to maximize my haste. Just want to hear other suggestions.Danetherlord4 19h
21h A little soul flame, please? It would be amazing if affliction locks could get a minor soul flame effect again. Even something trivial would be a quality-of-life boost, particularly in old raids. It seems silly to have to dot up multiple adds in a pack of mobs from vanilla that I should be able kill with a sideways glance. Thanks!Kensington7 21h
1d Warlock drawing I made this in homage of my classic warlock. Check out my warlock drawing and let me know what you think. https://www.instagram.com/p/BpFGKWoFXxx/ Thanks, BarbadosBárbádós7 1d
1d Lock Raiding PoVs & Improve Your DPS thread! Ay dudes, as I do every expansion I'm posting up a PvE help thread for anyone who has any questions or is seeking advice that you may not think is worthy of an individual thread. My goal is to help you improve your DPS. For immediate help, you can come to my stream (only had it for a week or so. Hope y'all appreciate my Infernal graphics!) https://www.twitch.tv/itsdeezy whenever I am live and if you have any questions or need any advice feel free to ask me there. I raid Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday, and Monday nights from 9pm til Midnight Pacific Standard Time. I'll answer as best as I can without shifting tooOo much focus off of raid. If it requires more depth, I'll let you know to repost your question here (usually with logs) I'm going to update this thread with the best results I get on each boss with each spec for the purpose of compiling videos not as a personal library, but as something people heading in to these bosses can look over to see what Warlocks are doing in raid and to see if you can pull any tips or tricks from them. Paired with the videos, I'll answer any questions you have about what you're seeing - whether it be with my rotation, any mistakes, or any mechanics. Destro: Mythic Taloc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLl_GKgVv2A (09/28/2018) Mythic MOTHER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1aU0nm_DOw (09/28/2018) Mythic Vectis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkyrPA4jN7c (09/30/2018) Mythic Zek'Voz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkHHwwR7z2c (10/01/2018, Infernal wasn't off CD for Dark Pact, RIP) Mythic Fetid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbAFJkD5C3c (10/11/2018) Heroic Ghuun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_44u5N0dfbQ (09/26/2018) Heroic Mythrax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIHIzMBHSc (09/26/2018) Heroic Zul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYDpR38KW4o (09/26/2018) Affliction: Mythic Taloc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTW6cgcBMQ (10/02/2018) Mythic MOTHER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG7sfeWaTew (10/02/2018) Heroic G'huun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B034D2g_FCk (10/02/2018) Heroic Fetid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCW9QFuoNU8 (10/02/2018)Dzdz73 1d
1d Succubus Pet Lesser Invisibility Anyone else having an issue with how their Succubus appears visually. I've noticed on more than one of my warlocks that some parts of my succubuss go 100% invisibible even to me. Other times she loses a limb (hair, tail, legs, torso, etc) and often times it has a crappy purple effect around the visual parts of her body.Vyndal7 1d
1d Needed Lock Fixes I started with my warlock as my main for BfA but have recently switched to my Boomkin. Most of my points are about PvP, but can also be incorporated into PvE: 1) Survivability - We need another cooldown or a buff to Unending Resolve. One 3 minute cooldown that lasts 8 seconds is not going to cut it. Usually I need to use it offensively for damage and CC anyway. We get sat on by melee and after a couple ports we’re dead. Maybe bringing back some type of cast while moving feature would help? Or adding an armor increase in a talent. 2) Buff Demo - I enjoy Demonology over Aff and Destro at the moment but its damage is sub par. Not to mention the loss in damage when your Felgard dies (which it does, OFTEN). I also feel way to squishy. I was hoping this spec would seem a bit more tanky like in the past. A simple Drain Life buff for this spec would go a long way. 3) Dealing with pets - I can’t tell you how buggy (especially Felgard) our pets are. Stun not going off, getting stuck on a map, being stuck in combat. I spend way more time than I should making sure my pets are working correctly. I can’t help but wonder if hunters have the same issues. 4) Viability in arena - LOL. Good luck. Our strongest spec at the moment is complete garbage. You get focused. You die. GG. RBGs we do okay, but wouldn’t you honestly prefer a Boomkin? 5) Viability of talents - I feel we are pigeonholed into very few talent trees. Some are just downright awful. Just as an example: I’d love to be able to use Drain Soul. Overall I like the BfA changes, especially Demo. I think a few tweaks would put warlocks right where they should be, but as of now they seem a bit incomplete. Until then, I’ll be playing my Boomkin. This is not a whine post either. Just wanted to see what others thought of my points, and if you had any other suggestions.Bibidi2 1d
1d Updates to guides for Uldir? I don't see any updates to the guides for Uldir. Anybody working on that? All the BiS tables are still dungeon mythic loot. Is that still the case, or just slow on the updates? I'm not complaining, just wondering. Thanks!Wuzzifuzzi1 1d
1d Best spec for mythic+? Hello, So I am having no issue in uldir, pulling good numbers and parsing high on logs. However, I am able to change between specs for each fight which allows me to be situational and pull high dps. I am having difficulty in Mythic+ on high keys as with affliction I do well when using cooldowns and st on bosses but feel underwhelmed with my AoE damage. If I run demo or destruction I feel the opposite, do well on trash pulls under perform on ST boss fights. Which spec do you feel is best well rounded for Mythic+? What talents should I be taking for that spec and do you have any tips for my above problem (low affliciton aoe damage)?Hollowcore14 1d
1d Voidwalker losing auto cast of spells. Last time I played was Sept 03 and now today (Sept 9) my voidwalker cannot keep any aggro whatsoever. Every time I die when I resummon both are toggled off and I have to toggle them back on. Even when I do the voidwalker cant hold aggro at all against me when a week ago this was not an issue. Noticed after i was face tanking mobs I never should have been. Anyone know what is going on?Alye4 1d
1d Screw Aff, Destro feels so much better Hey i can sacrifice 1-2k dps on boss fights for 10-20k dps on trash in m+ every day of the week.Dependents26 1d
2d Singe magic Singe magic doesnt seem to be able to be cast on my allies when I dont have pet sac even if I do use macros.Esdeathx10 2d
2d Demo PoV Uldir stream Hi all, I've been streaming the past two weeks of Uldir clear as a Demonology warlock and have had a stronger viewer response than expected. I figured I'd share the link for those who want to drop by and will happily answer any questions in between pulls! Or come mock my terrible transmog, either works. https://www.twitch.tv/chucklesmashChucklebolt7 2d
2d Not loving Darkglare or Dhadowbolt Ive been playing affliction lock since BC. I've always loved it. There have been tons of changes to so many things about the spec but ive always just loved how it felt to play an affliction lock. BFA is the first time I've been driven away from affliction at all. Im still loving the game and it led me to try monk which I'm thrilled about (sooo fun), so it's not like I'm about to quit wow over it. But I am... sad. I miss my warlock. I think it comes down to the fact that a major portion of my damage and the cooldown I use on the toughest of enemies is a demon summon. I realise it's sort of a DoT type of demon, but it really feels like it shouldn't be so clearly demonology related. Almost like when the going gets tough I'm relying on my other spec to do the real work. Shadowbolt gives me a similar vibe. Nothing about it feels affliction based. I spend so much time using it and while I know my DoTs are acting on my opponent too, the filler periods just don't really feel affliction anymore. I picture marksman hunter using a pet based filler and a big trap as a main damage cooldown and it seems ridiculous (I dont play hunter. Thats not how it is, is it?) It has nothing to do with balance or damage and this is purely my opinion, but like I said, it feels like I've lost something meaningful in my main. He still plays great for the most part and it's not like he's boring. He just feels like a different guy these days and I'm getting nostalgic.Aethric35 2d
2d I want to be a rot spec Not this 3 min PoM/Pyro knockoff with no survivability or sustained damage. I feel like a ghetto mage that didn't finish wizard school and never learned his mobility spells. So all I have is decent burst with huge set up requirements (that can be countered with a single dispel) and I'm made of tissue paper -.- Nice job blizz, hope you're proud of yourselves.... You ruined AfflictionBartholomew17 2d
2d Racial Demons? I had an idea while i was playing last night. What if blizzard changed the lock demons to be a little more themed towards the race of the character? i mean shams have different totem skins, druids have different shape shift skins, why not different demon skins for us? i think it would be a cool idea plus is would give warlocks the much wanted new demon skins that have been asked for for a long time.Sinfect7 2d
2d Is demo still bad? Question in title.Mordecaí21 2d
2d demo pvp azerite question hey quick question, is it better to run 2x shadow's bite + 1 battlefield precision or just run 3x shadow's bite. currently playing PTP with 3x SB but just got a bfp piece.Darkumzqt11 2d
2d [SUG] Warlock pet versatility by spec Not sure where suggestions are supposed to go these days, advice is appreciated. I think it would be neat to have our original OG standard set of demons, but as Demonology have each be buffed up since we're freakin' Demonologists. For instance, not like before where the felpuppy was turned into an observer with glyphs, but each of our Demonology primary pet demons getting the full Felguard treatment while in Demonology spec since we're Demonologists, and the longstanding utility of pulling out whatever demon works for the situation. So Demonology would get the Felguard where other specs would not. Affliction would get Affliction-focused imp/puppy/succubus/voidguy demons, Demo/Dest would not. Destruction would get destruction-focused imp/puppy/succubus/voidguy demons, but Demo/Aff would not. My preferred Demonology demons could be getting buffed up like Guarded versions of armored puppies, smarter tougher imps, superior leatherbound whippier succubi, armored and lanterened voidlords, etc. Plus the neat new cooldown buff demons where Affliction gets the Darkgare dotter now, Destruction gets whatever their new cooldown demon is, and Demonology gets the Tyrant. Right? And what I wanted to get at regarding Demonology getting access to the 'tank' Felguard, but not forcing Demonology to be Felguard spec and and Felguard spec only, i.e.: - Felpuppy, my favorite, adding glyphs to make it an observer if you wish, getting armor plating and slightly improved abilities instead of just the baseline felpuppy, like a tanky Felguarded felpuppy; - Voidwalker -> Voidlord, tanky Felguarded, stronger, with default improved threat abilities but reduced damage compared the Felguard to compensate; - Succubus -> improved Succubus (glyphed to the multiarmed demon lady?) with more leather (she likes leather) and simple slightly buffed armor, and new Demonology specific abilities, new tricks, better whip, etc. - Imps being improved to Wild Imps as they've been doing, personal servants with better fireballs and master protection buffs, which already seems to be in the works. Basically the spread of pet variety that different hunter specs get for their pets, which are really cool and relevant to the hunter's spec, but for warlock spec pet layout. What say you?Sarcophilia1 2d
2d New Ability Suggestions As the title states this thread will be dedicated to new ability suggestions. I will be posting my own suggestions and encourage you to post your own. This thread is only for new spells, passives, traits, etc. I understand the desire to try and bring back old abilities however I want us to focus on new options rather than recycling. Think of the class, think about its lore and what experiences we have had while encountering all the new, strange, and powerful magics of the world of warcraft. Just like when we took the cataclysm expansion as inspiration for a brand new spell loved many years after its introduction. I will try to make a template to use so that it is easier to read any of the posted suggestions. Baseline/Affliction/Demonology/Destruction Basic Ability/Talent/Pvp Talent/Azerite Trait Active/Passive Name Description Mechanics (This is the best I could think up for a template, if you have a better idea please do tell. I feel like I'm missing something I just can't tell what it is.)Sathrago6 2d
2d Soul Stone can be used as a Battle Res?!? I just found this out over the weekend and it blew my mind. When did that happen? Keep up the good work boys.Bigoledoinks21 2d
2d Is destro viable? I want to play a warlock but only destro appeals to me. Are they viable in pve for raiding and mythics? I probably wouldn't be raiding above heroic levelKatrina10 2d
2d How about them PvP changes? ... ... Thanks for the Warlock changes! *sobs uncontrollably*Elenstelle20 2d
2d How are warlocks doing nowadays? Was thinking of leveling an Affliction lock for my Nightborne character. I don't PVP. Will I be struggling to DPS/survive when I hit 110 and start doing BFA content? That's the main thing I'm worried about.Elöi8 2d
2d 8.1 Demon Armor needs something else.. Here's a quick idea.. A lot of Warlocks are complaining about Demon Armor being boring and useless. Some of that's to do with the feeling of being upgraded from paper to cardboard, just prolonging the inevitable. However if it's to remain a passive maybe it could also buff our Unending Resolve. Buff it in a way where it depends on our current spec, so Affliction "UR" gets a Riposte type defense added where an extra special dot can stack up automatically and ramp up current dots faster. Destro can get a pushback defense that does small fire damage and knocks melee back some amount (a lot, across Azeroth). And Demo? How about a sucubi pillow fight that charms the aggressor or sends them to the nether for a lil bit and they get eating up by the void damage to make the aggressor panic. Blizz I just don't think Demon Armor is enough and for us and some would agree, but I'm no expert. So if any other Warlocks have an idea for this instead of mine please please comment and suggest.Deleo6 2d
2d Demon Dominating Hey guys. I really enjoy the Warlock class. Always have ever since I started from Wrath. I also enjoy the way that the Hunters can hunt their pets. I propose a similar system but instead of hunting the environment of your questing zones, we could hunt across the Twisting Nether. Now a couple of things to clarify: 1Q. Why no Eredar Brutes? 1A. Because I consider them to be like when you use to use Metamorphosis on a Warlock. Technically you're a demon but only because you surpassed humanity to empower yourself. You weren't born one. Not to mention that most of the time, existing races are converted to the Legion specifically to do what they want. This could make them a demon. 2Q. Why no Doommaidens? 2A. See 1A. 3Q. Why no Felblood Elves? 3A. See 1A. 4Q. Why no Fel Orcs? 4A. See 1A. 5Q. Why no Felborne? 5A. 6Q. Why no Dreadlords/Nathrezim? 6A. They, like the Eredar, seem to have vast intelligence. Almost like humanity, I think they'd be able to break their bonds easily if they were enslaved. They command demons and higher entities. 7Q. Why no Felsteed? 7A. They don't really have an established moveset that could mesh with a Warlock. 8Q. Why no Felbat? 8A. See 7A. 9Q. Why no Ur'zul? 9A. They are the fallen members of the Army of the Light or Broken. They're on our side. Might be a bad idea lorewise. 10Q. Why no Wyrmtongue? 10A. They were moreso enslaved against their own will, like converting Elves and Orcs. 11Q. Why no Vilefiend? 11A. See 7A. Temptress (Red Succubus) Silence (Fits the same role as Succubus) Terrorguard (Red Terrorguard) Shadow Bolt Curse of Tongues (Fits the same role as Succubus) Terror Chaser (Yellow Terrorguard) Shadow Bolt Curse of Tongues (Fits the same role as Succubus) Terror Knight (Blue Terrorguard) Shadow Bolt Curse of Tongues (Fits the same role as Succubus) Terror Keeper (Black Terrorguard) (Has a mouth in its stomach like the original) Double Bite Bites twice, dealing shadow damage then physical damage. Wing Buffet Inflicts slight damage to enemies in a cone in front of the caster, knocking them back. (Fits the same role as Succubus) Jailer Seduction replaced with Jail Does the same thing, different graphic. (Fits the same role as Succubus) Overfiend (Fel Green Coloured Baleroc) Felblade Toss Stuns like Axe Toss. Felblade Whirlwind Essentially Felstorm. (Fits the same role as Felguard) Inquisitor (Good replacement for Observer) Mo'arg Sawblade Swipe Stuns like Axe Toss. Sawblade Whirlwind Essentially Felstorm. (Fits the same role as Felguard) (Future Glyph Ideas could be different attachments. Default is a Saw and Claw. Drill Replacement: Replaces Saw Blade with a Drill and replaces the Sawblade moves to Drill. Bilescourge Fel Spit Fel Projectile in an arc. (Fits the same role as a Doomguard) Aranasi (Red Aranasi Humanoidish Demon) (Like Brood Queen Tyranna) Acid Spit Inflict nature damage at the enemy. (Fits the same role as a Doomguard) Aranasi Webslinger (Brown Aranasi Humanoidish Demon) (Like Brood Queen Tyranna) Acid Spit Inflict nature damage at the enemy. (Fits the same role as a Doomguard) Aranasi Curator (Blue Aranasi Humanoidish Demon) (Like Brood Queen Tyranna) Acid Spit Inflict nature damage at the enemy. (Fits the same role as a Doomguard) Summon Abyssal (Orange Flame Infernal) (Fits the same role as an Infernal) Summon Supremal (Blue Flame Infernal) (Fits the same role as an Infernal) Void Hound Demonflame Breath Initial Cast then a breath. Arc of Flame doing Shadowflame damage over time standing still. Annihilan War Stomp variant. Glaive Cleave. (Perhaps an alternative to an Infernal). I don't assume that any or all of these ideas will make it in. These are just thoughts and suggestions to throw out to not only the fellow Warlock fans but also to the Devs. Thanks for reading.Raick0 2d