3d The Bloodcrazed Berserker - Fury 7.1.5 Guide Hello I'm Greil and welcome to the 7.1.5 Legion Fury Guide, we've had a few changes since Warlords of Draenor to fit a berserker which has been captured quite well. I'll be covering both basics for newcomers to the spec as well as a few more in depth details for the vets looking to improve in the following guide. This guide will also be ever changing due to consistent adjustments during the tuning phase in which will continue to occur from now and into a few weeks after Mythic Raids have been released before information really settles, so keep checking back as new info will be updated when I'm able to. The main change for fury? 2h weaponry is our only choice, as Single Minded Fury is no more. Please Note: Feel free to ask any questions if you need to clear up anything in regards to Fury. However if you do ask for assistance with DPS itself make sure to link a parse to a fight in which you were apart of which has been uploaded to https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ as this will allow myself or other vets the ability to tell you exactly how you can improve otherwise we cannot help you. With that said, on with the guide. Contents: I - Talents and Stat Priority: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747195056?page=1#2 II - How to Play: Single Target / Area of Effect / Cooldowns: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747195056?page=1#3 III - Warswords of Valajar - Your Artifact and you: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747195056?page=1#4 IV - Consumables, Enchants, Gems and Racials: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747195056?page=1#5 V - Legiondaries and the Mechanics of Fury: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747195056?page=1#6 Recent Updates: 11/1/2017 - Updated Talents / Cooldown section to reflect changes to the 7.1.5 patch.Greìl233 3d
4d The Might of Stromkar: Arms PVE 7.1.5 A quick thank you to Archimtiros, Warriorsari, Artunias, and all of the Warriors of the Legion Alpha/Beta. Your hard work and dedication is testament to the warrior Community. Introduction: Hello my name is Curoar (think of it like que-roar) and I’m here to help new players as well as veteran players get a firm understanding of what's happening to Arms in 7.0 in terms of PVE. As with every other class and spec, in Legion everyone has had significant changes and their spec and abilities. We’ll start by discussing those, before jumping into the meat of things. If you have any suggestions to add to the guide please leave it in comments and I’ll come back and check it every now and then. PLEASE NOTE! This guide will be constantly updated and changed based on inevitable balance changes Blizzard will make. During this time stat-weights, talents, consumables, and enchants are all subject to change. Updated 1/10/17: Added comments on chages add in 7.1.5, primarilly focused at towards talent changes. Updated 10/23/16: Updated the guide's Single Target Rotation with Focused Rage, as well as added a Execute Phase guide, and a few Commonly Asked Questions. [i]Updated 9/30/16: Updated the guide with the response to the changes via Hotfix. The guide has updated on talents for single target for Focused Rage, and non-focused rage builds. Table of Contents: I. Wait?! What happened to the spec?: Changes from 7.1 to 7.1.5 http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#1 II. Stat Priorities http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#2 III. Gems, Enchants, and Consumables http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#2 IV. Races http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#2 V. Talents http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#3 VI. Artifact Traits and Paths http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#3 VII. Rotation Priority and Cooldowns http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#4 VII. Sample Gear Lists http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#4 IX. FAQs http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747264886?page=1#4 I. Wait?! What happened to the spec?: Changes from 7.1 to 7.1.5 The majority of the changes in this patch were focused towards changing our talent choices and shaking up Warriors from the standard cookie cutter spec. Sadly that failed for single target, but for the most part did open up certain talents to be useful for specific situations. So that's a win... I guess? Oh we also pretty much got a flat 5% damage buff too so that's good! The damage done by most Arms abilies has been increased by 5%. Charge now reduces the movement speed of the target by 50% for 6 seconds. Charge now roots the target for 1 second (was 1.5 seconds). Fervor for Battle now increases Whirlwind's damage to the primary target by 45% (was 30%). In for the Kill now Refunds 30 Rage (was 20). Ravager has hadit's damage increased by 25% Rend now costs 10 Rage (was 15), now deals 10% more peridoic damage, and deals upfront Bleed Damage Sweeping Strikes now causes Mortal Strike and Execute to hit two additional nearby targets (up from 1). Titanic Might no longer reduces the effectiveness of Colossus Smash Trauma now causes Slam and Whirlwind to deal 25% damage as a DOT (was 20%)Curoar322 4d
Oct 26, 2010 Welcome Warriors: Please Read! Welcome to the Warrior forum! This forum is here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss the warrior class with your fellow World of Warcraft players. Community forums work best when participants treat their fellow posters with respect and courtesy, so we ask that you take the time to read through the forum Code of Conduct (http://us.battle.net/en/community/conduct) and guidelines (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15252595157) before posting. Important Reminders: Search The search function at the top of the World of Warcraft community site is extremely effective and robust. Before you create a new forum topic, please be use it to search for similar topics, blog posts, or web pages that may contain the answer for which you are looking. Making a new thread on an existing subject can result in your thread being deleted or, if you continue to re-post the same content, the loss of your forum privileges for spamming. Rating The forum rating system can be used to promote positive discussion, demote unhelpful comments, and even report posts that violate the forum Code of Conduct. By hovering over a post you'll be presented with several options, including a "thumbs up" (Like) and a "thumbs down" (Dislike) icon. Clicking the "thumbs up" icon will rate the post up. If enough people like a post, it will gain a Highly Rated status and appear at the top of related search results. Highly Rated posts will also have a highlighted background. Clicking the "thumbs down" icon will expand a drop-down menu which will include "Dislike," "Trolling, "Spam" and "Report" options. "Dislike" will rate the post down. If enough people dislike a post, it will be darkened, and with a lot of dislikes it will be hidden completely. You can also quickly report a post as trolling or spam, or use the report function to fill out a more comprehensive description of a violation. Please note that you can only rate each post once. Use your power wisely to help foster a positive and helpful forum community. Have fun posting on these forums, and good luck with your adventures in Azeroth!Lylirra1 Oct 26, 2010
28s Can we stop it with all the Prot whining? Here's the thing. I was worried about all the doom & gloom in the forums over the changes in the ptr that went live as of yesterday. So I ran some WQ's and an heroic or two and can honestly say that the rhetoric is WAY OVERBLOWN for the VAST MAJORITY of the player base. Will the "bleeding edge content" peeps feel nerfed? Yeah, and probably rightly so, but so what?, those people are a small minority of the paying player base (though undoubtedly the most vocal whiners on the forums, he-heh). I've been playing this character since Vanilla (for reals), did the hardcore raid guild thing back in BC&WOTLK, burned out over it and have been an on and off player since. Thoroughly enjoy the GAME, enjoy questing, enjoy advancing the lore, enjoy dungeons, enjoy raids, enjoy fishing!, there is so much that the VAST MAJORITY of the player base enjoys that doesn't include bleeding edge mythic raid content (us plebes even get to see what that content looks like if not having to suffer through endless attempts to get the mechanics JUST right to beat those same(ish) bosses through LFR). My point is, Blizzard is not under any kind of mandate to provide some imagined perfect skillset for you small minority of bleeding edge raiders. The fact that the content you so love requires so much coordinated effort should make it more interesting to you: Here's the skill set provided by the game, now go figure out how to make it work in the content provided. Or while how it's too hard and level up some other FotM tank. I don't know the percentages or where I'd even go look for such info, but I'm willing to bet stacks of gold that, as I said, the VAST MAJORITY of Protection spec'd tanks are very happy with these changes. /flameproof suit on :-)Wyglaaf37 28s
3m Why is Thunder Clap unusable while silenced? I can't smash the ground around me because I'm silenced? That makes no sense. With Thunder Clap being a big part of the Devastator rotation it's really annoying to lose the use of 1 of our 3 abilities because we get silenced.Srtheo12 3m
11m Killing BGs as Fury I keep seeing post about how much warriors suck in general and specially fury but im here to tell you i'm having a ton of fun! It doesnt matter the class/spec, if you queue solo and dont work with your team then you wont have a good experience (more times than not) I always try to meet people and play as many BGs with them as i can, i have fun and i get to play the class/spec i enjoy instead of FOTM like lots out there. My build gives up CC for mobility but makes me love this class/spec every BG i do! Check it out and enjoy the video, me and a few friends hitting Arathi Basin 20-0 Add me up Jugernaut#1609 Always willing to help and pvp with anyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrLrD-7X-eoJugernutz14 11m
16m Rate That X-MOG Rate the XMOG above you from 1-10Agramarr276 16m
24m 2 pc T19 now good again Did anybody read the patch notes today about t19 (arms) . They look like blizz reversed the t19 changes they did. Edit. I mean mmo champion patch notes.Wahrgazm5 24m
26m So the New Prot Works...But It took almost the full week, but I have finally grown to accept the new Prot. It works. It really does. But....I don't like how it works. This is my opinion but I know it is shared by others. Before getting into the details, my biggest complaint is that this was done in the middle of the xpac! This is the kind of thing you do in a Pre-Patch for an Xpac. Having to relearn how you class spec works in a week is needlessly stressful. Now my detailed issues when it comes to Devestator and Revenge and Prot in general. 1) The rotation is super clunky. It doesn't flow. It's unnatural and counter intuative. If you haven't read the book (no I am serious, someone wrote a book), you actually have to pay attention to you swing timer. Something no other tank has to deal with. I think no other class/spec has to either. This leads to many times just sitting there doing litterally nothing because you have to wait for the ST to pop your already available abilities. I want to always be hitting something. Having to wait goes against my mindset. In the same vein, there are time where none of your abilities are ready, so instead of hitting Devestate as filler, you again sit there doing nothing waiting the auto attack to hit and either giver you enough rage to do something or reset SS. 2) Focus Rage was off the GCD. Revenge is supposed to be taking its place in the rotation but it is on the GCD. So it just doesn't flow like the Focus Rage/Ignore pain synergy. I think moving it off the GCD ike FA was would go along way to making this feel less clunky. 3) Most of us can't keep track of all this stuff in our heads so that makes mods like WeakAuras yet another manditory mod. it was just a nie to have tpe of thing before but I know find it absolutely necesarry to keep track of the Devestator stuff. 4) No other tank is this complex. All others are simple by comparison. All of this makes the Warrior a bottom tier tank by comparison for progression. That is the keyword. We are still good for mythics and raid content we are on par with or outgear. Are we still a viable prog raid tank? Yeah, we can do it but not nearly as good as most other tanks. Druids are now far and away the best tanks in a tier by themselves. Pallies, DHs, and even Monks are superier to warriors. DKs are the only ones we are in the same tier as. No disrepect other tank class intended but considering sword and board warriors are the traditional tank class for just about every RPG ever, this disappoints me.Warmason0 26m
49m Fury 7.1.5 Rotations [Verification] Did H Helya the other night and I barely pulled 340k while I saw another Fury top the meters with 525k+... I have L helm + boots ... 10% attack speed ring... Tentacles/Eye of Command (crit stacking) for trinkets. I know the NightHold trinkets will be a game changer but until then can someone verify my understanding of the current rotation? *Talents: Frothing Berserker + Reckless Abandonment || Endless Rage / War Machine (Situational) Opener/Burst: Charge > Avatar/Battle Cry(RA) for Frothing > Rampage w/ Raging Blow > Odyn's Fury > Bloodrhirst > Raging Blow.... General: Raging Blow + Bloodthirst off CD > Furious Slash for filler > 100 Rage (Frothing) - Rampage w/ Raging Blow ...until burst CD's are ready, then repeat opener. Odyn's aligns with Battle Cry and Avatar re-aligns every 2 or 3 cycles... Is there anything I'm not getting? Seems like 26%+ Haste is good enough and Mastery takes over at some point.Bizen7 49m
1h Reroll? Been thinking of rerolling into a Warr from Surv Hunter, would this be an upgrade from the Hunters current state or?Falerelan9 1h
1h Warrior Class Mount The Warrior Class Mount is very disappointing. It reminds me of WoD and lets be honest, no one wants to remember that place lol. We could have had so much more (storm drake?) but we get the no arms, iron jaw, gimp drake.....Adino17 1h
1h (Arms) non focused rage build Been using this build for mythic+ and nightbane runs. Every one minute you have amazing aoe dps and decent single target dps without relying on collosus smash procs. Dauntless Shockwave Avatar Bounding stride Mortal combo Titanic might Ravager Let me know what you guys think!Ryeil2 1h
1h What's your alt? Hey, fellas On a more light sided topic, what are your alts (if you manage to keep one)? Aside from my warrior main, I always have one healer, that's my MW Monk. I also do have an Ele Shaman but I seldom play with it. What about you?Nullion16 1h
1h Shattering Throw One of the greatest injustices ever committed by Blizzard was removing Shattering Throw, yet you hear almost nothing about it... why? I think blizzard is ran by paladins and there's a conspiracy... no wonder they removed shattering throw.. and reduced their bubble cd + auto-cast on death no but really, what's up with the removal? i feel we need it more than ever.Cosmo10 1h
1h [Fury] Nighthold Items to focus on I know the guldan trinket is going to be great but anything else would be good to focus on I am only 870 geared or so. Thanks!Ralazzar0 1h
1h Trinket farming (mythic dungeons) I don't raid but I still love getting BiS - what are the BiS trinkets for mythic dungeons? I'm thinking Spiked counterweight - BRH Nightmare egg shell - DHT Any others?Lagwagon3 1h
2h What happened to dmg Seriously. What the hell happened to warriors? Our damage is absolutely patheticWaterstone0 2h
5h Reminiscing of the best warrior patch Remember when you could do stuff like this as a warrior? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nINSxTlO8Q Patch 4.0 warrior was so damn good. The best state arms has ever been in. It was Wotlk warrior with hammer of justice, heroic leap, and ridiculous burst dvds ;[[ I am glad to see disarm back, and in top form at a 30 second cd and no disarm reduction meta. Patch 7.1.5 is definitely an improvement for legion Arms. Hopefully we see some more abilities we used to love return to the class. EDIT: Let me explain myself more since there's some confusion here. The patch I'm referring to is before they removed intercept and destroyed the whole wrath play style. It was a very short period of time ,a few weeks, that the class was literally unstoppable. You had everything that made wrath warrior great, plus the additions from cataclysm. I remember playing during this time period and getting upset that I lost 1v4s because I knew I could realistically win these fights. That's how overpowered it was. It was the greatest time to play an arms warrior, period.Emagdnim13 5h
7h Timeless Stratagem So, is anything about this legendary good aside from the secondary stats being good? I suppose if you got the pants they could be good place holders till people get the ring and gloves for arms, 5 charges of colossus smash seems ok. Question about Weight of the earth: Does it also apply shattered defenses? (I do not currently have the pants.) I'm having trouble understanding the mind behind this thing. Not even the flavor text is interesting. It is really just existing as a D3 tie in?Kozra3 7h
7h Ayala's Stone Heart PPM [fury] HOTFIX REQ I get that Ayala's stone heart at 3ppm might have been a little strong for arms but what does that have to do with nerfing it for Fury as well. The nerf was solely targeted at reducing Arms spec's crazy dps and not to reduce Fury's rather abysmal ST dps in 7.1. Please hotfix it so that the ring has a separate PPM for fury and arms and revert Ayala's PPM for fury back to 3. The legendary ring is useless AF right now and I don't want to play frothing beserker. If you could be bothered to code praydaz with a 15% buff for tanks and 25% for everyone else, I'm pretty sure you guys can manage a code to give the Ayala's Stone heart 2 separate PPMs for Fury and Arms spec.Ecriture22 7h
7h Legendary help Wondering with the new FB/RA build if I should drop my Ayala's for Prydaz. Currently have Kazzalax Ayala's and the Prydaz.Zirene0 7h
7h What stats for WPVP I'm an arms warrior, could anyone give me insight on what stats to run for wpvp?Thapaintrain9 7h
7h (Arms) Tier 3 Talent Double Charge I HATE IT I don't see a choice unless it's a double melee cleave. 90% of the time I am going to take Double Charge. Disarm should be in place of Double Charge and the latter should become baseline. But if you are dead set on Disarm as a Tier 3 Honor Talent then give us back Throwdown. Throwdown (45s CD) Knocks the target to the ground and stuns it for 6 sec. Throwdown in place of Double Charge gives us options. Compelling options. TLDR: It's hard slowed life... for us... without double charge, make it baseline.River2 7h
7h Prot warrior nerfs! Can I get some of whatever Blizzard's balancing team is smoking? Warrior Protection Charge, Devastate, Devastator, Heroic Throw, Ravager, Shield Slam, Victory Rush, and Deep Wounds damage reduced by 5%. Revenge and Thunder Clap damage reduced by 14%.Rootfifth41 7h
8h Warrior T-19 - Cut from the line up! Why was this scheme cut? or am I'm missing it. No where in mythic loot tables, heroic,normal, LFR http://imgur.com/a/4l10M - Comparison of rest: http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2016/april/warriorTier19.jpgRagnorock1 8h
8h Paying to beta test, still The massive incoming nerfs to prot warrior dps is uncalled for and makes you wonder how Blizzard reconciles their desire to continuously nerf Prot warriors. I am not asking for any other class to be nerfed, I am just citing the huge disparity between other classes and the warrior when it comes to tanking and nerfing. Druid (continuing king of the hill) is capable of doubling warrior dps, and competing with other dps classes. Druids are able to tank without using defensives up to Mythic +3, well they keep frenzied regeneration up (maybe). Blizzard is still charging paying players to beta test, because the incoming 5% nerf to all warrior dps, and the 15% nerf to Thunderclap and Revenge nust have completely caught them by surprise and off-guard when our current ability made it to the live servers. Blizzard will nerf warriors based on memes, other players and useless idiot warriors that spread the two button meme gave blizzard ammunition they were looking for to nerf us. I am not nor have I ever been a two button tank, I use my CD's and weave shield block , IP and Nelth's fury every fight. Thunderclap, Shield Slam, Revenge , Battle Cry, Nelth's Fury, IP, Shield Block, Last Stand, and Shield Wall, on CD or when appropriate. That's a lot more than two buttons. Some say our dps is too high. Compared to who? Equally geared Druids, Paladins, Demon Hunters, and DK's equal or out dps warriors (druids and paladins can double our dps without even using cd's. Druids and Paladins routinely sit in the mid range of equally geared DPS classes on raids and will top the charts in mythic dungeons, and are every bit as, or more survivable than warriors, yet SoE (err Blizzard) isn't smashing them with the nerf hammer. Warriors should level Druids and start "Druid Tank" only mythic groups then post YouTube videos to display the disparity, and Blizzard's lack of reconciliation. That we are accused of doing too much DPS is ridiculous.Sakura1 8h
8h Give War Machine a 15% heal over 10s It's already a tier 1 leveling talent. Throw the heal on there to round it out.Atnehs0 8h
8h PVP Warrior Tutorial 7.1.5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1hwR32oybk Double your Dps then your enemies & do more damage then DH hope it helps just copy & paste your talents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1hwR32oybkSòlbadguy4 8h
8h Protection PvP 7.1.5: Hidden Gem? So since the start of 7.1.5, I have noticed a massive change in regards to PvP. While most of our brothers and sisters are lamenting over the PvE changes, I have been destroying almost every class in Battlegrounds, World PvP, and even Arena. Most notable reason I have created this topic though, is Shield Slam damage. I don't know if this player was unlucky and experienced a random glitch while fighting me in the Darbrul Arena, or if there is actually a way to set up my shield slam to hit for 1 mil damage. I was fighting a demon hunter, I think he was Havoc. he got a few hits on me, and before I even bothered with my burst macro I've been experimenting with, I hit him with shield slam. I've never seen my shield slam hit for this much damage in a PvP scenario, but I'm not joking when I tell you now, the player went from 80% to full on deleted from a 1.8 million shield slam critical strike. Has anyone else tried Prot PvP by chance, if so, do you feel like its viable for PvP? I'm doing extremely well, yet no one really on my server has considered it that I know of.Mylaina9 8h
9h Arms Defensive Stance looks out of place Hey Blizzard, I don't know about anyone else but whenever I pop the defensive stance on my warrior, it just... not only realistically but aesthetically, I gotta be honest, it looks ugly. A two hander and a shield? It looks like people are just throwing on whatever they want in fury spec or something regardless of knowing how to play. I don't mean to bring a toxic environment to the game in any way, I just think that... through looks and throughout... warrior times in movies, history and what not, I've never really seen or heard of a warrior that took up a two hander and a shield. It just sounds weird. Anyone else agree? What would you change it to? It doesn't have to be the buff itself just the appearance of it.Beauron15 9h
10h Can anyone confirm that Duel is bugged?? I've heard it's not working, is this true or has anyone tested it? Kind of tricky to set up a real test for it unless you have some people willing to wargame. This would have a huge impact on warrior viability. Maybe less-so after they tone down some of the other classes who have out of control damage but right now it'd be huge.Circajuturna1 10h
10h Having fury pve dps problems ilvl 852 and u can see all my gear and stats in my profile. i have pretty decent burst but without it seems im running 270k to 290k which kinda seems low for 852 ilvl, maybe not, can someone let me know, i dont have 30% haste yet either.Dudechill3 10h
10h All 850+ armor has -haste (furry) So it seems all gear i been running into past 845ish is a big loss in haste. Any advice?Carpediem4 10h
10h Legion Leveling Sepc? So, with the new patch, which spec does everyone recommend for leveling? I leveled this warrior through previous expansions, so I'm familiar with how they work, and was thinking prot for leveling to get in and out of dungeons quicker, but everyone says that prot has been destroyed, so I'm not sure exactly where to go. Any suggestions?Mathaennicus0 10h
10h Nighthold Fury Tier Gear What is the general consensus going into tomorrow about the stats and tier bonuses on fury gear? Looking at them in the journal, they honestly seem kinda meh. Doesn't seem like something I should be aiming for.Massamune11 10h
10h Haste at expense of strength (fury)? Should I equip lower ilvl gear if it has haste? 860 to 855 or 850 to 845 gear for example... thanks!Lagwagon1 10h
11h Can we get a bump for Haft of the God-King? Here in the next week we are going to be 3 levels of content over the dungeons we got when Legion first dropped. EN, ToV, and NH. We've had multiple cycles of both dragon World Bosses. And I still can't get the Haft of the God-King. Meanwhile, Frost DKs can now get their hidden skin to drop from WotLK raid bosses??? I don't need a gimme. The dragon skulls are gimmes. But can we PLEASE get a bump to the drop chance? This late into discovering how we get the skin, and this far into every other class having relatively easy paths to getting theirs, this part of the skin should be 3-4 runs max. Not that I expect a response. But man, it would be nice.Tabernackle12 11h
13h Prot Warrior Hidden artifact So..I've been doing this for about a month now? and I still cant get or find the shield. What I know and done so far- Lvl 5 AF (I'm AF 16) Read the stone in order hall next to artifact researcher dude Go to Neltharion's Vault, listen for roar/rawr m(o.o)m if you hear it you have a chance to get shield in the gold rubbles. (I go in N Vault as Protection just in case) Like I said, been doing so for a month, I asked atleast 3 other warrior who have it in my guild and they say they got in less than 2 weeks. Makes me sad as it is prob the only best shield in the artifact skins. Am i missing something?Krogg12 13h
15h Was in a meeting with my boss..then suddenly He said "company needs to be grounded..." And thought it would be a new passive for Arms and Fury. (I did not care about the meeting..lol) Grounded - While warrior is in stand still for 5 seconds - increase damage by 1% every second max up to 10 stack. Buff losses after you move. could be same for Prot - increase dmg reduction/parry/block..Stratics2 15h
15h Anyone else disapointed I feel like Arms should have gotten more attention in 7.1.5. Some changes that i think should have happened are: Rend/avatar baseline Bigger damage buffs to make damage outside of cs not terrible Bigger buffs to other talents compete with FR build Change to second wind Anyone else feel the same? Open to hear others opinions/feedbackBüg21 15h
15h We did it! We are legitimately the worst class in PvP as of this patch. Prot most viable PvP spec. What a joke.Butchur16 15h
15h Is fury warrior viable for 3v3 arenas now After the enrage damage in pvp setting being lowered to 10% from 20% (warpaint talent makes it 5%)? In addition to getting disarm, it seems like fury can have enough survivability to do prevent getting blown up now. I really dislike the arms playstyle and it just doesnt feel like it has enough dMG pressure so wanting to try out fury arenasNightmarres0 15h
16h Cloak vs Ayala's 7.1.5 Recently picked up Kazzalax, and having played with both in 7.1.5 I would like to give my anecdotal report that I feel the cloak wins out so far in M+ from 2 to at least 11. Still think Ayala's will be king on Wrath of Azshara.Johnnygash2 16h
16h Fury or arms for raiding? Two questions. 1. Fury or arms for raiding mythic EN? 2. Arms or fury for fastest leveling 100-110?Captnslammit2 16h
16h Fury execute usage 7.1.5 So prior to the new talent meta, the idea was to stack as much execute damage as possible, but now looking at how the rotation plays out, it seems quite hard to maintain enrage+juggernaut+frothing berserker. Attempting to maintain enrage without free rampages and reaching the rage cap at the same time AND keeping your execute buff up seems like quite the feat. So my question is what is the consensus on how/when to use execute? Does it become my rage dump instead of rampage? Just slightly confused with the change and would like some help. <3Valêrius17 16h
17h Fury getting better but still needs work After the latest patch Fury definitely got better but then again so did most classes who were already doing better than us. Until Fury does top dps number 1 then there is no justification for it taking any extra damage at all. There is essentially no incentive to take a dps class that takes more damage when it does less than other dps classes that dont take more damage.. Im worried some people are getting complacent with the small buffs here and there that blizz gives us. dont fall for it. Dont get me wrong, im happier about where Fury is now but we still have some work that needs to be done. I like the way FB/RA works for the most part. They need to rework the Golden Talents because they all have essentially been reduced by this change. With current build we use Rampage less often because we wait till 100 rage first and during execute phase we only use it when we activate BC. With Legendary ring also nerfed we get less free executes now. SO whats that mean? That means our 3 Golden talents which 2 proc from Execute and Rampage will now proc less often since we dont use those abilities as often. And the Juggernaut golden trait is also less effective since we use less execute. This is a problem considering we already barely saw procs of the first two golden traits anyways. And juggernaut stacks are harder to stack up now without as many free executes and rampages from Massacre/ring combo. 4 things Blizz can do to fix us. 1. Increase proc rate on Odyn's Champion 2. Increase proc rate on Rage of the Valarjar 3. Bring Juggernaut stacks down to like 20 but make each stack higher % dmg increase. 4. Make Massacre baseline They could just undo the nerf to our legendary ring and not have to touch golden talents (except Juggernaut) but thats prob not gonna happen so its more likely they will alter our talents. Blizz is going to be looking at our talents anyways for 7.2 so guys i say we start telling them now what we want.Xaladune28 17h
17h Artifact activated ability change thoughts? With the way legion has been evolving especially with the movement seeming to be required in raiding in addition to the lack luster effect and situational use of our artifact ability should we be *attempting* to get a redesign so our can be as useful as, say a guardian druids? As our tier 19 is increasing our passive CRIT block and the chance to do dmg from our CRIT block is unimpressive to say the least. There have been many suggestions on how to improve our ability (most prevelant being able to move). Thus far, with the lack of any blizzard communication on this and other topics, this ability is one that is severely under utilized unless your able to stand in one location(and not be interuppted) for the duration and willing to sacrifice the ability to use any other active abilty.Nasargiel0 17h
18h Prot Questions I leveled and have started gearing up my prot warrior. I have a couple of questions. I feel like I don't have enough rage if I use revenge often, but people have told me that revenge is important to use on CD. How do I keep shield block up, Ignore Pain, and have enough rage for revenge? Does this get significantly better with gear? I plan on mainly tanking mythic+. Any advice is greatly appreciated, my main problem I think is what to spend rage on. Revenge feels so expensive.Lanthier2 18h
18h Brawlers Guild Ray D. Tear? Have any arms warriors done this fight? If so I'm looking for advice. I avoid all damage that can be avoided and still die. I use my heal after I kill the hand. Not sure what else I can do heal wise. I use my def cd's for the hammer thing. I just simply die to melee/acidic dot right after he cast the implosion thing and I'm at ~580k dps on the meter at that point. Saw some videos of other classes and they just stay at 100% hp the whole fight somehow.Icehotshot4 18h