In PvP, Warstomp sucks because Stuns are so common, it always DRs. Its one major use is for Druids to sneak off a cyclone when playing with low-stun comps like Mage/SPriest.It should be buffed to 3 seconds, or turned into a knockdown, or made instant cast off the global CD so it's a reliable interrupt.Quaking Palm sucks too. Needs to remove DOTs or have a ~15 yrd range.02/03/2017 04:58 AMPosted by WarringbullI guess Tauren AOE Stun is not as bad as shadowmeld lolShadowmeld can be used to dodge projectiles like Stormbolt or casts like Polymorph.If I'd give it anything, it'd be DoT protection fo…

-Artifact appearances.http://www.wowhead.com/item=139550/bulwark-of-the-iron-warden#commentsI'm in the same boat with many people, nearly daily attempts and still can't get this thing to drop to due absurdly low RNG.Time-gated, Low RNG is important to give things like old raids replay value, but it should not be a factor in Artifacts. This is not fun, just frustrating. Nor is it fair to have less customization than other specs/classes that have an easier time unlocking their own hidden skins.

01/16/2017 02:31 PMPosted by OniichandesuMes has been queuing as vengence DH and winningGot links to vids?

So I was just on my fresh Blood DK doing some skirms. Ran into a Guardian/Ret team twice.My first partner was a Fire Mage, we went Guardian and shrekt him.My second partner was Havoc, who insisted on going Ret, resulting in a double kill on the dps.Then my Blood DK beat the Guardian into submission in about 4 minutes. Only took significant damage once, which I guess was me pumping into Rage of the Sleeper and I didn't know the icon so I didn't stop.That wouldn't have happened in WoD. If two tanks aren't lasting against each other for 10 minutes, then either they don't have survivability or the…

01/16/2017 12:34 PMPosted by WoesxFelcrusher male belf tankYes, hello.I'm just approaching this with a critical point of view. I find it really hard to believe that Feral could somehow get out-dpsed by Guardian in a single-target, full uptime scenario in PvP.Unless they have a large template nerf I am unaware of.

01/16/2017 12:15 PMPosted by CåiñAlso it being good against double Melee comps is completely fine, except for that part where they out damage everyone.But what if they're outdamaging everyone because everyone else is in more CC?It's possible they have lower training target damage but no one prioritizes stopping it so it adds up.

01/16/2017 11:18 AMPosted by DillonGuardian does more damage than feral lol.How is that possible?They don't do more damage in PvE. Is it just because Guardian has more uptime because they're never the focus target?

01/16/2017 09:22 AMPosted by BandetYou mean that zone where everyone ran in circles PvEing in a 40 man group?Now it's called Broken Isles and you do it by yourself.

01/16/2017 10:13 AMPosted by TruepallyGuardian is fine. Just have to kite them, and cc. It's a L2play issue tbh.There are hardly any Guardian Druids on the ladder atm so if anything they need more buffs. I won't be satisfied until I see a 20% agility buff on them.Their defenses are also lacking, that could use some buffing as well.Dunno who downvoted a clearly sarcastic post.

I would imagine a lot of that damage is thorns and aoe. I doubt Guardian can actually burst like a man. (Although they now do full damage in PvP and Maul was buffed by like 400%.)But that being said, I don't care if a tank spec performs well as long as it's beatable and doesn't promote toxic gameplay.Dampening for 15 minutes because no one on the team can die is toxic gameplay.Is Guardian doing that?