1. In WOW it was the Burning Legion2. In Chronicles 3 it's vague, but says Syvanas was betrayed by Putress and Varimathras3. Afrasabi seems to be saying Sylvanas was always more evil than the Burning Legion and in league with them

11/15/2018 01:54 AMPosted by DathrelThirdly, there's nothing actually sending Horde characters into Uldir. A scenario that ends with the seal shattering, you'd think, would follow up with a quest to enter Uldir and stop the Blood God. But nope! Nothin. So the whole thing just ends up falling flat, and ultimately ends up largely wasting all the build up across Zandalar.On the upside, at least that means there's parity. Alliance have no meaningful reason to invade at that moment beyond stopping an Old God, and I guess the Horde don't either.

11/15/2018 07:29 AMPosted by ArlifrexYou don't like the story. Other Horde players do.Some Night Elf players don't like the story. Other Night Elf players LOVE IT. And are spending every moment writhing joyfully in their righteous victimhood on these forums.

11/14/2018 11:45 PMPosted by XimothySo, I heard we're loosing our post count?Lena's post count is the most impressive, 133,692. Vastly above anyone else's who posts here.

11/14/2018 07:52 PMPosted by Rothiron11/14/2018 07:30 PMPosted by HahahahahahaI'm not suggesting he "goes to war with Anduin", I'm suggesting he might complete the war THAT HE STARTED with the Alliance if he takes the Horde. And that'd be different... how?Bush invaded Afganistan, Obama merely continued the war for 8 years. Are they the same?On the other hand, Saurfang started the current war against the Alliance as it's planner and leader. So the example may not be perfect.Also, why didn't Tyrande or any other NE kill Saurfang during his 6 month SW vacation?

11/15/2018 02:00 AMPosted by HanashiAlso not a big fan of public "likes". I'm sort of... a serial thumbs-upper here. Especially when I'm lurking, which I've done here for literally years, since the Story Forums were instated. Maybe it's superficial, but I don't like the idea of, I don't know, people knowing I'm lurking?I'm actually for public likes. I often upvote people attacking me...if they are funny about it. I'd like them to know I approve of their witty banter.On the other hand, there could be an ugly situation of "Oh of course person X upvoted person Y just like they always do! They …

11/14/2018 06:30 PMPosted by YvenathilmWe also need to dump large amounts of powdered iron into the Ocean in order to increase the number of Photosynthesising Plankton to combat Climate Change!All I'm hearing is that you want to make sea monsters stronger. I stand with you!

11/14/2018 01:21 PMPosted by Rothiron1) Sylvanas had to convince him that pursuing war at that time was in the interest in the long term survival of the Horde using both the Horde's tactical disadvantages, the Alliance's recent (relatively unprovoked) aggressionSylvanas said "let's wipe the Nights Elves off the continent". And Saurfang said "Yes! Let's use assassins, blackmail, kidnapping, and cleanse all their cities while there's nothing but civilians to stop us!" Sylvanas never ordered him as Warchief, he decided it was a fantastic idea too.11/14/2018 01:21 PMPosted by RothironAnd him ran…

11/14/2018 07:25 AMPosted by Droité11/13/2018 09:22 PMPosted by HahahahahahaThrowing away some lvl 1 trash mobs when there are LITERALLY infinitely more of them means nothing.Did a single named character sacrifice themselves? Geblin got an upgrade for 8.2, and Jaina is completely fine 30 seconds later chatting it up with the Alliance leaders.Blademaster Telaamon sacrifices himself on the Suicide MissionLiterally who? I had to look him up on Wowpedia and it says the only thing he's ever done is you have to click him during 1 quest once. You are kind of proving my point...https://wow.gamepedi…

11/14/2018 04:56 PMPosted by GrandbladeI hate clickbait titles that make you open the thread to find out who "they" is.You can mouseover thread titles to see the first few sentences. Or that might be a function of chrome with all links.