11/13/2018 05:43 PMPosted by TotemfiendThat's pretty awesome! Are they only able to pierce it with their thumbs (like super strong and sharp thumb nails?) or is it more like they only need to use their thumbs to pierce it but could do more damage with a full on punch/more fingers?I read the book a few months ago so it's fairly fresh in my mind.Vol'jin was wearing a steel breastplate forged by the Shado'pan. A Zandalari soldier grabbed Vol'jin, lifted him up over his head, and started to squeeze the breastplate until his thumbs tore through the metal and penetrated Vol'jin's sides, causing him …

11/14/2018 11:17 AMPosted by AkiyassI mean, Night Elves wouldn't really fit with the Horde wither. Especially with the Forsaken.... the Alliance was just a better fit, but realistically, the Night Elves should have been their own, separate, 3rd faction.I'd say the Night Elves fit well with the Horde if we traded Forsaken for them.Then the Horde would solidly be a nature worshiping warrior faction and the Alliance would have a Light vs Shadow dichotomy between Stormwind and their Lordaeronian cousins that could be really interesting.Meanwhile the Horde would have a neat balance between the isol…

11/13/2018 03:00 AMPosted by SerevènOh. Then I misinterpreted what you were doing. I had read your posts as an attempt to dissect his actions from a low vantage rather than our bird's eye, more objective view. Because objectively speaking, he stopped her from enslaving an ally. Not much else.Looking further at your post here though, I feel things are just unraveling further. In part because I get the impression we view rationalization and justification a bit differently. I also tend to give victims a bit of leeway in a narrative perspective that I generally don't in a more real world approach.…

11/13/2018 01:10 AMPosted by TotemfiendI don't think we are to assume that lore characters are generally stronger than other members of their race? More skilled sure, but nothing about Baine, Garrosh, or Anduin suggests there to be a huge dearth in strength betwixt them and average members of their race.I'd say this is a safe assumption. Especially for non-magical characters like Baine, Cairne, and Garrosh. None of them use magic, so their feats are directly related to their own physical abilities.It's also worth pointing out that in WC3 average orc units were the basic front line infantry whi…

I mean, there's a pretty solid case that a survivor of one of Sylvanas' many holocausts may view their vengeance in eliminating her as conveniently in line with prioritizing the survival of the world.It doesn't matter what Genn's perspective is. In his mind I do not doubt he believed what he was doing was justified. If he didn't he wouldn't have acted. Everyone has their own internal justifications for the things they do, but that doesn't make them right. Even if Greymane thought he HAD to destroy the Forsaken immediately or Sylvanas would destroy the world we know he was wrong to attack those…

11/12/2018 11:02 PMPosted by XimothyI don't agree that priests would've made sense as the second Alliance class, since trolls and nelves have priests galore. Priests probably should've just been more vague with their spells and not tied them to any particular faith.I think mages would, in your scenario, make more sense as the second Alliance class. Since if you switched nelves and undead in vanilla, the only Horde race with access to the mage class would be trolls... who frankly never really had a reason to have mages.I'd argue troll priests make very little sense outside the Shadow spec, and …

Gameplay =/= lore.Orcs are definitely not as strong as tauren. Baine ripped Garrosh in half with his bare hands in an AU where he lost his temper.

11/12/2018 06:03 PMPosted by DarethyUpvotes and downvotes inherently poison conversation, merely seeing them has a small effect on how people view that persons stance.Herd mentality is baked into our psyche, even the most strong willed of us succumb without realizing it from time to time.I clicked Like for this post. Both because it is a good post and for the sheer irony of it.

It's also worth noting that WC3 in general was extremely limited in it's ability to give the many races "classes" and that the tauren of WoW, as well as many others, can't even play some of their iconic classes/units from WC3. In fact a good chunk of the classes are Alliance-centric concepts that were painted onto Horde so Blizzard wouldn't need to give the Horde their own iconic classes.The Horde were given priests, druids, and later paladins.The Horde were not allowed to play witch doctors, shadow hunters, or spirit walkers. Instead these were removed and replaced with the Alliance themed cl…

I feel like picking up druidism is a natural progression of their nature worship. It may have had a little to do with ensuring both sides had access to the druid class, but it isn't lore that I've ever found questionable.