Agreed. The lack of breathing room is even worse now. Hard to believe they removes BoS.

I agree. Please check out my post I made "Ideas on how to fix pvp" and upvote and/or reply.

I feel so limited and broken. :'( I'm going to quit wow after playing since the beginning that's how bad this is.i think any1 whos enjoying this current state of pvp hasnt played wow for long enough to remember what it used to be like. and the potential it has. they have nothing to contrast/compare it to

If you want to separate pve and pvp talents that activate only in their appropriate circumstances, that's understandable. But you've gone about it the wrong way. Removing gear was a good idea to try and make things more balanced but this new "honor/prestige" system is NOT balanced and shouldn't contain key abilities such as cyclone which u have to earn. That's boring and unbalanced. Those are abilities that should be a given by default. Infact, once you reach max level (110), the pvp tree should be like the pve tree where you can use them all right away! This new "honor/prestige system" should…

I feel your pain, Creampuff. I'm looking at other games cus I just can't play this garbage pvp anymore.

07/19/2016 01:26 PMPosted by Nadbushan "Oversight"?This just proves that they don't pvp... If you pvp seriously, you're engineer for a reason.Yeah, the whole reason so many people dropped their old professions and took up engineering is cus they wanted the goblin glider and nitro boost perks. I think it should be allowed in casual bgs but obviously never in rated lol.The weird part is, I tried to use my cloak glider in bgs and it didn't work yet my friend could use their goblin glider kit they had in their bags...wtf? Doesn't make any sense.

if Blizz wanted to separate pvp and pve abilities thats understandable. but they did it they wrong way. The "honor/prestige" system shouldn't contain key abilities such as cyclone which u have to earn. those are abilities that should be a given by default. the new "honor/prestige system" should be more like the artifact system...where it ENHANCES your abilities...not completely makes u unable to use them until a certain level. damn.

^i knew some1 would use that argument. as if they cant practice while leveling and then once they get out on the battlefield where they wont die so fast cus of lack of gear n spend most of time in graveyard anyways. /sarcasm

one idea-If gear was such a problem then why didn't they make it so that honor was account-wide? Therefore, you don't have to painfully grind it out on each character. Instead, you go through it once on your main character and once you're geared then you can just pvp easier on that character and any honor you use can go towards your less geared characters to gear them up too and then once theyre geared you can play them forreal.another idea-OR they can do what they did now...which is removed gear entirely in pvp. That's fine and balanced. But don't use this new "honor/prestige" system to your …

THIS IS SO PAINFUL HOW SLOW IT IS!!! EVEN THE GLOBAL CD AND CAST TIME. and the lack of cc is unbelievable. they basically just took away our abilities for no good reason and are making us re earn them.