Competitive pve? I figured the main reroll for enh was DH. There are so few melee slots with how the mythic fights are designed (though mythrax was just hotfixed, you still have to get past fetid first) and it doesn't seem like anyone really went WW. DH brings a lot of utility to the table without being dumpster dps.

Well, that was the excuse during legion, and then they didn't do it during alpha/beta and then they said they'd do it during bfa, so if they're back to "we don't want to do anything midexpansion..."I'm probably out when my sub runs out in January. My overall game enjoyment just isn't there (which is a mix of systems and class issues), it's not looking like 8.1 is really going to do enough and I have enough !@#$ to deal with IRL in 2019 that I really should take a break. I'll probably still be around the community though, I've been in and out of this game for 14 years, I'd be kidding myself to …

11/14/2018 08:10 PMPosted by GugavorWhy, do Shamans even exist as a playable class at this point?Because literally deleting the class isn't an option. It would cause a number of issues and so on...it gets joked about enough, but just getting that out of the way.It's all ultimately fixable, but it would take more investment and creativity than I think we're going to see anytime soon. Hell, it would take admitting there is a problem with the actual specs that isn't purely a numbers issue to start. Ultimately I can't answer on if you should move on entirely or just onto another class. I guess tha…

mana really isn't an issue with practice, since we handle things fairly well with proper spell selection and play. we can certainly burn through mana in a hurry if we want to, but we can also sustain fairly well for a long time without external sources. I get where you're coming from, but you'll probably see some of the same as you get back into the swing of how things are now.

I made the same mistake once, and was corrected, which is why its stuck :P. As I don't play on private servers, it hadn't been terribly relevant knowledge to retain.

Deluge isn't picked because Chain Heal sucks. Why are you pretending Chain Heal output and Deluge viability are not directly linked?If you think the gameplay sucks, why don't you go play a healer with better gameplay? Could it be because those other healers have significant drawbacks to their gameplay that make them less desirable for you than Resto Shaman?No, deluges design is just bad. It's not related to the viability of chain heal in the slightest. The fact that chain heal is a true smart heal that will seek out the lowest health target which can be outside of your healing rain or without …

Just because you don't know how it works doesn't mean it's broken, and your anecdotal evidence is not proof of such. Where it's a flat buff to healing based on mastery % and health %, you can calculate how much of a heal is boosted by mastery. If it was broken, you can be assured that the issue would have been noticed already and the issue raised with Blizzard because it's fairly simple to math it out.

11/13/2018 10:55 AMPosted by ThulgrumRestoration Shaman is receiving a massive buff that is only being understated because people are bad at math. Chain heal is receiving a 33% buff to throughput and High Tides buffs chain heal further into insane levels with an additional flat 20% independently multiplicative modifier and the removal of chain drop off. If you add in Unleash Life and Deluge, Chain heal is now capable of a 1000% spell power heal which puts it at the same level as Holy Priest's Power Word: Sactuary (a 60 second cooldown).I like how you throw in deluge to try and put it over the …

11/13/2018 12:02 AMPosted by KathOP is a good mythic raider mirroring what werdup felt and said as his guild pushed as a top clearing guild in the world. It is justified when absolute min/maxing progression mythic groups per encounter... nothing else. Yeah, he was the first, and in talking to him at Blizzcon, there was still only 4 who had CE worldwide that he was aware of. It's a pretty sorry state and it's just part of the current design theory where they wanted to move back towards "bring the spec, not the player" but then like...didn't give you a reason to bring every spec. There just isn'…

11/13/2018 05:31 AMPosted by VigrShaman buffs were required for raids in MC and AQ. Onyxia was easier for alliance due to bubbles preventing the whelping one shot. Though like all things, we were useful, just not for what everyone likes to think we were. Shaman in the day were moving buff counters. Also, Bloodlust was insane.Bloodlust didn't exist then. It was added in TBC https://wow.gamepedia.com/Bloodlust