There will be no free recustomization ~ Part2

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Original Post: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10490859298?page=1

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/
"There will be no free re-customization for characters after new character models."


Well Forums, You know what to do.


And since people responded to it well, I'll also post a long post I made.

To sum up everything:

1. We are not asking for recustomizations to become free. We are asking for them to either give us a 1-time free customization for any existing character of a race (above ~level 60), or to add face and skin color to the barber shop for all races, and make recustomization be a way simply to change your character's gender and name.

2. We are not complaining about the new models. We like the new models. However, the new models significantly change how our characters look, no matter how "faithful" they stay to the original. In essence, it changes the personality of our character. Asking for the ability to check the other faces they make to see if one fits our character's personality better is not asking much.

3. Some of us put hours into making a new character. For some people, WoW is ALL about their characters. Having our characters changed without any way to fix it to our liking without paying $15 per character is not okay. Blizzard risks not only losing the VAST MAJORITY of RP players, but many many many regular players as well.

4. The free level 90 is NOT a substitute. Do not use it as an excuse. If you only play 1 character, it might be, but not everyone plays only 1 character. Likewise, the fact we can change everything except our face and skin color in the barber shop is not an excuse. The face is what defines our character, and they're changing them.

5. Just because something is SIMILAR to the original does not mean it is the same. From the models they have shown us, the ONLY race without SIGNIFICANT changes to their face are male orcs. This is the equivalent if say, you order Orange Juice at a restaurant and ask for a refill. Without asking, the person squeezes you a grapefruit into your orange juice, because it looks similar. Then in order to get a new drink, because THEY ruined your drink, you have to pay extra. No restaurant in the world would do this, because they'd lose a customer, and anyone they know.

Male Dwarves have a hugely changed face, not only including eye color, but their foreheads, eye shape, and mouths. The female gnome face we saw was converted from one of the "Serious" looks, but looks like someone slapped her with a happy stick. The female dwarf has the biggest changes of all. They are amazing, yes, but they look nothing like the original look. There's not a single detail on the new face that looks like the old. The male tauren also has significant changes due to the smoothing of the fur.

We should be allowed to make our characters feel right again, for free. It's not a hard request, or unreasonable. We are not acting like entitled brats. We are acting like we have put years into our characters, and having them changed and being told to deal with it and pay extra to fix it is wrong. Microsoft told people to deal with it, and their pre-orders were astronomically low. This led to the person who said that to being fired (and left to Zynga), and their entire stance changing, in order to keep fans.

6. Just because YOU don't care what your character looks like does NOT mean the rest of us don't. We aren't claiming everyone has an issue with this. However, a large amount of people do, as showcased by multiple post capped threads over the past 24 hours, and a huge thread on MMO-Champion.

7. If your character doesn't matter that much to you how bout a new deal? Every single character in the game is deleted. Period. You get free level 90s equal to how many you have. Nothing else will be reimbursed. After all, the characters don't matter to you, so why should you care? This is how it feels to us. They are NOT our characters. They were changed on us, and we're being told if we want to make them our characters again, (or try to), we have to pay to do so. We may not be able to make them feel like our characters again, in which case most of us will probably have to delete a few characters and reroll as a new race. However, the fact remains that most of them will easily be able to replicate the feel with a new face.

8. There would be no strain on the system, and they do not need to do a lot of work for this. They can simultaneously flag every X race for a free recustomization easily during a quick realm restart. They do this on the PTR constantly.

Say when 6.0 comes out, Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls are done. They could EASILY flag all level 60+ Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls for a recustomization in about 5 minutes. This would not affect the servers because 6.0 comes before the expansion is actually live. When 6.1 comes out and has say Night Elves and Forsaken? Release a small patch a week before the main patch comes out that updates the models, and flag all level 60+ NEs or Forsaken for recustomizatons. No stress on servers on patch day. Same goes for 6.2 and any other races.

9. If you don't care how your character looks, how about they remove transmogrification? How about all armor? After all, if it's all the same to you, why should they make unique looking armor in the first place? Why not have all plate wearers in a plain suit of armor, all mail wearers in a suit of chain mail, all leathers in a tunic, and all cloth in a robe? All weapons be normalized as well? Because people DO care about how their characters look. And changing something significantly without allowing us to fix it is NOT okay.


This minor decision Blizzard has made may have a significant impact on their bottom line and the playerbase if it goes through, which is what people have been discussing at length for the past day now.
I'm ok with them saying no.
Exactly, we need free customization.
I am not paying 15 bucks for 20+ characters, that is RIDICULOUS!
Mhmmm!
Do we really need another thread...


Yes, actually. Persistence is the best way to get Blizzards attention. Letting the subject die after one thread isn't going to reach anyone at Blizz HQ and get them to change their mind.
I've noticed a lot of posts that just want free character customisations.

Not because of the new models (those are an excuse), but so that, even if the new faces are the same, they can just fix things they didn't like in their original face choice. That is, it's them wanting free stuff rather than needing to fix an issue.

I'm not arguing against your point (I don't care either way; if you care about it, feel free to keep raising a ruckus), just pointing out that people posting stuff like that is not helping your cause.
1. We are not asking for recustomizations to become free. We are asking for them to either give us a 1-time free customization


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2. We are not complaining about the new models. We like the new models. However, the new models significantly change how our characters look


Surely starting the 71st thread about a feature that won't see the light of day for a good 8 months isn't complaining. Significantly change? They're literally using the same rigged model as before - the ONLY difference is clarity, moving parts and an increased polygon count.

This is beyond complaining, this is next level whining.

11/10/2013 07:41 PMPosted by Reinhilde
3. Some of us put hours into making a new character. For some people, WoW is ALL about their characters.


If the only reason why you're playing WoW is to blankly stare at your characters face all day then i'm sure it's beneath you to pay the fee to maintain your sanity, and reason to live. Also, craigslist called. They want their creepy back.

5. Just because something is SIMILAR to the original does not mean it is the same


It's a good thing they never marketed this campaign as creating identical looking models that would defeat the entire purpose of a lengthy and extensive remodeling project.

They wanted to preserve as much of the original as possible. This doesn't mean a mirror image, it means the focus is on keeping you all from committing mass-suicide on their front porch outside blizz HQ

7. If your character doesn't matter that much to you how bout a new deal? Every single character in the game is deleted. Period


Now you're just whining.


Yes, actually. Persistence is the best way to get Blizzards attention. Letting the subject die after one thread isn't going to reach anyone at Blizz HQ and get them to change their mind.

Petition threads are technically against the forum rules, if you look.


This isn't a petition thread.

And @twerkmiley, you really shouldn't insult people when you have a name that violates the ToU. Especially when your insults have no basis in reality.
11/10/2013 08:36 PMPosted by Twerkmiley
If the only reason why you're playing WoW is to blankly stare at your characters face all day then i'm sure it's beneath you to pay the fee to maintain your sanity, and reason to live.


I notice you transmogged your gear...
I'd like a free customization, but if we don't get one, at least my main is worth paying for one in case there's another face I like more. Alts? Not going to see much money for those.
11/10/2013 08:35 PMPosted by Anarith


Yes, actually. Persistence is the best way to get Blizzards attention. Letting the subject die after one thread isn't going to reach anyone at Blizz HQ and get them to change their mind.

Petition threads are technically against the forum rules, if you look.


Persistence not petition.
11/10/2013 08:39 PMPosted by Ratinger
If the only reason why you're playing WoW is to blankly stare at your characters face all day then i'm sure it's beneath you to pay the fee to maintain your sanity, and reason to live.


I notice you transmogged your gear...


XD Burn.

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