Tweaks/Suggestions/Feedback on new models #4!

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10/19/2014 01:51 PMPosted by Makki
10/19/2014 01:45 PMPosted by Lothranor
Stopping by to bump the thread, and wondering where all the other model threads went. Most of what I see on the main page today are complaints about leveling, balancing, that sort of thing. It's quite depressing how everyone appears to have cooled off so quickly.


It's not really cooling off as I think most are either just giving up....Or the blue tweet satisfied them. It definitely is a good start, I'll keep the list circulating as long as I can atleast.


I don't see how we can be so easily sated by a tweet basically saying "we're paying attention now". Yes, it's a start. But that is all it is. It isn't a promise. I won't be satisfied until all of my characters look as if they were given the same attention to detail as the Dwarves and Orcs. Frankly, the people saying they're happy with all of the models anger me.

/2cents
10/19/2014 01:57 PMPosted by Makki
I agree, hence why I'm gonna keep the list going as long as I can, even if I'm the only one on it saying 'bumpbump' near the end.


Keep it up, I'll also be checking in on these threads occasionally to keep them going.

Great job staying committed to the cause :D
10/19/2014 01:50 PMPosted by Vitaki

I know you can still use the old models, but if it's only client side, what's the point? If I only cared about what /I/ saw on my character, I'd probably risk downloading those programs that change your character's model so I could make it whatever I wanted. But I don't want that. I want other people to be able to see the character that I chose. I want other people to see what I see, or else it has no meaning.


Couldn't have said this better myself. Especially when RPing, I want what I see to be what others see. Knowing how my characters look with the new models makes the solution of not using them not really helpful.
10/17/2014 12:30 PMPosted by Makki
http://i.imgur.com/FVpWCQ6.png?1


holy cow, what a fathead.

blizz can you fix that fathead too? that's terrible. i didn't notice how bad it looked on other's models
10/19/2014 01:58 PMPosted by Lothranor
I don't see how we can be so easily sated by a tweet basically saying "we're paying attention now". Yes, it's a start. But that is all it is. It isn't a promise. I won't be satisfied until all of my characters look as if they were given the same attention to detail as the Dwarves and Orcs. Frankly, the people saying they're happy with all of the models anger me.

/2cents

I think it's more....there's only so much we can discuss here without knowing what exactly it is the devs are looking for feedback-wise. We've still had zero direct replies from the CMs\devs to any of these threads. People on the beta\ptr had already voiced a lot of the concerns that have been present here and in other threads, but their feedback was largely disregarded(or taken under advisement and then deemed unnecessary or inconsequential).

We've already been through 3 fully capped threads full of (mostly)constructive feedback\criticism and suggestions on how to fix incorrect face proportions, animations, expressions, etc , not to mention just outright bugs from the beta and PTR that were reported and still went live that continue to need fixing.

There really just isn't much we can do we pretty much just have to try and get more of the devs\artists\CMs attention on social media (since it's pretty obvious at this point we probably aren't going to get a blue post here) and pray they can actually do something with our feedback.
Does smiling NE female faces look like they are kinda doing duckfaces to anyone else?
10/19/2014 02:13 PMPosted by Llilium
10/17/2014 12:30 PMPosted by Makki
http://i.imgur.com/FVpWCQ6.png?1


holy cow, what a fathead.

blizz can you fix that fathead too? that's terrible. i didn't notice how bad it looked on other's models


That would be the chipmunk cheeks we have marked in the list.

Also, now that I look at myself with this spider costume on, I don't look half bad! Okay Blizz, just leave me as a spider for the rest of the time on WoW, I shall strike terror and fear into the hearts of many as an 8 legged bullet shooting monster!!! MUAHAHAHAH!

10/19/2014 02:21 PMPosted by Yzzami
Does smiling NE female faces look like they are kinda doing duckfaces to anyone else?


Yes, on some of the faces it really does look duck-faced.
10/19/2014 01:45 PMPosted by Makki
Welp.....I just confirmed something I saw on Imgur the other day. Was a tattoo of a spirit healer someone got, great story. But someone commented in WoD you could see down her robes now.

.......Well I was dead a good while because I had jumped off a waterfall and landed in a horrible place I couldn't get back to unless I ran aaaaaaall the way back up to Kai Lun....

So standing before the spirit healer, I remembered this comment and looked.

And you totally CAN X_________X;;

We're having graphic glitches and terrible issues, but they had time to add that in!?


>>;;

Brb... killing self...

For science, of course.
If the number of suggestions and complaints falls, I fear they'll assume we've gotten over it and be even less likely to bother. It shouldn't diminish the validity of the issues, but it might make it easier for them to be dismissed. The squeaky wheels have to keep squeaking, in as many voices as possible, here and in other media outlets.
10/19/2014 10:54 AMPosted by Makki
*looks*.....Awww fluck....Okay, hold on, I'll go fix that, gotta find the right picture...Hmmm...where did I put that.....


You can use this one if you can't find a good one.

http://i.imgur.com/fniTOop.gif
10/19/2014 02:47 PMPosted by Incinerater
10/19/2014 10:54 AMPosted by Makki
*looks*.....Awww fluck....Okay, hold on, I'll go fix that, gotta find the right picture...Hmmm...where did I put that.....


You can use this one if you can't find a good one.

http://i.imgur.com/fniTOop.gif


Sweet Mother Mary in a Handbasket O_O;;;

I can't even tell that's the same person! D:

Thanks though, I'll use that one.
I think the new models look great.

However, the one problem I have with the undead male is that for some hair styles, the hair texture under the actual hair runs a little bit too far down my guys forehead.

>>;;

Brb... killing self...

For science, of course.


MMhmm, sure, for science Snuzz, totally believe you.

*over here spinning her own silk and weaving a new banner* It rocks to be a spider, I'm not a llama anymore!!!
Fix the clipping and run animations first. Everyone looks like they just stepped out of an old school bugs bunny cartoon. Through the Gnomes some cutesy faces. Which btw is unsettling that people want to look adorable as they launch face melting chaos bolts at some one.

And I get your not happy with the Tauren's noses and to each their own. However you realize we're not actually cows. Bovine in nature but not actual cows. We're far more minotaur then cow. Seeing how all these characters are something someone dreamed up we actually look just like we're supposed to.
I took another screenie of the disappearing robe legs for tauren, and blew it up by 50%. Hopefully this should be big enough and clear enough to show the issue. It's pretty pixellated but whattayagonnado.

http://i.imgur.com/NR5hSeQ.png
OMG!

10/19/2014 03:14 PMPosted by Blackhámmer
You can literally see the "skin colored" line on these "panties" or whatever.

http://imgur.com/qLg5vd7

cringeworthy.
10/19/2014 03:31 PMPosted by Kellemvor
Fix the clipping and run animations first. Everyone looks like they just stepped out of an old school bugs bunny cartoon. Through the Gnomes some cutesy faces. Which btw is unsettling that people want to look adorable as they launch face melting chaos bolts at some one.

And I get your not happy with the Tauren's noses and to each their own. However you realize we're not actually cows. Bovine in nature but not actual cows. We're far more minotaur then cow. Seeing how all these characters are something someone dreamed up we actually look just like we're supposed to.


That might be so, but minotaurs are half cow/half man, and are usually described in most mythologies as a creature with a man's body and a bull's head.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Theseus_Minotaur_Ramey_Tuileries.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/064/4/f/4f28d43b1f6c8ea34fe6c14ea0e5e138-d3b0im0.jpg

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120527193701/narnia/images/4/46/Tavros.jpg

http://www.timetrips.co.uk/minotaur-statue.jpg

http://www.propstore.com/product-images/1259/158816.jpg

http://static1.paizo.com/image/product/catalog/WOC/WOC25481-31_500.jpeg

http://petes4e.wdfiles.com/local--files/races-of-atroa/M_Minotaur3.jpg

http://www.worldofcharun.com/images/thumb/f/fa/Minotaur1.jpg/250px-Minotaur1.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m525/TreverP/SamuelWereBullform_zps829de74c.jpg

So really, we're designed ALOT like the minotaurs of the D&D and Narnia. And most all of them give them bull/cow faces. And we were made as such.

Now suddenly they tried to turn our noses into these noses of some other animal, in an attempt to make it appear 'more human' which is bogus.

If you want to keep the noses they've given us, fine, I'm totally cool with that, but others should be given the right to choose nosepad faces as well the look more bovine. Here, gonna show you something else.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120506063821/wowwiki/images/e/e7/Pandarian_yaungol.png

Remember these guys? Get close to their face, see something? Their noses connect to their lips in a pad shape.

Still don't believe me? How about this one? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZhIuLkfKsEM/UOydGSPehkI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/kItQjF3yTCU/s1600/Yaungol.jpg

OHH look even the Taunkas! http://static.wowhead.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/116633.jpg

http://www.otakia.com/wp-content/uploads/V_1/personnage_120/9580.jpg

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081210190059/wowwiki/images/6/66/Chieftain_Wintergale.jpg

Infact among the taunkas, there's only 2 faces that have a separating of lip and nose, and appears more like a mustache really: http://i34.tinypic.com/20katcy.jpg

and this one:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090318141859/wowwiki/images/e/eb/Bori_Wintertotem.jpg

So really, do I need to continue on my point here? It's a total deviation from what they've designed the tauren species and subspecies as before, and it looks weird. If you want it, great, have it, but we want more faces with also the choice of bovine nosepads.

*coughs**went on a tirade*....Ehehe....*dabs self with handkerchief* Sorry, I got overly passionate...
I really like the new Horde models. Of course there a few little things I'd change but with art, you just can't please everyone. Alliance definitely pulled the short straw (inb4 horde favouritism).

On that note, I have a question I couldn't find an answer to so will ask here; the darker skin colourings of humans were omitted, and Blizz admitted to having made a mistake, promising to return them soon. What about pure white hair? This seems to have been replaced with 2 shades of grey. Will we get this back? Because my human toon is definitively lacking the "spirit" of her original toon with this change.
10/19/2014 03:50 PMPosted by Snuzzle
OMG!

10/19/2014 03:14 PMPosted by Blackhámmer
You can literally see the "skin colored" line on these "panties" or whatever.

http://imgur.com/qLg5vd7

cringeworthy.


What the bananas!? You mean they had time to darken the line between her pubis and thighs but could NOT even fix the damn color line of the panties?!?!

Snuzzle, I commish you to go and see if this is happening on any other bodies or just the humans.

FOR SCIENCE!!
10/19/2014 03:57 PMPosted by Xaviss
I really like the new Horde models. Of course there a few little things I'd change but with art, you just can't please everyone. Alliance definitely pulled the short straw (inb4 horde favouritism).

On that note, I have a question I couldn't find an answer to so will ask here; the darker skin colourings of humans were omitted, and Blizz admitted to having made a mistake, promising to return them soon. What about pure white hair? This seems to have been replaced with 2 shades of grey. Will we get this back? Because my human toon is definitively lacking the "spirit" of her original toon with this change.


I've wondered that too, it's like they super-saturated the white hair to this weird gray....*needs to add that* can someone get me a picture of that please??

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