Please fix enchanting

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11/25/2014 05:04 AMPosted by Jigawat
Off topic on Enchanting but to address an issue I saw . . .

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I actually LOVE Garrisons and wish (hope?) that we can not only take them with us but expand on it and make it even more fun.

If one of the purposed of a place is to facilitate gathering, then it needs to be conducive to gathering and feel welcoming, convenient and comfortable. People should WANT to be there.

To add to this. Have a Garrison party. Start a raid group and everyone crash in the leaders Garrison. It's fun and hopefully while you're there you can D/E some of those quest greens to get the illusive dust everyone seems to need.


Definitely already done a bit of this with a small handful of people. However, my biggest issue with garrisons largely replacing cities is the lack of interaction with people that AREN'T already on my friends list or in guild. My faction is incredibly tiny, and we only have about 5 active guilds. Meeting new people--whether unguilded or from other guilds--is a core part of the social experience on a server like mine.

It was extremely rare that I would pass by someone in Shrine that I didn't know without striking up a quick conversation or at least tossing them a /wave. I know most people experience cities swarmed with giant AFK mounts, but for me cities were truly the best place to interact, not just AFK.

Right now I feel like my guild is the whole server and the whole server is my guild... and though I love these people, limiting myself to the green text feels so wrong.
11/25/2014 09:55 AMPosted by Adreaver
PLEASE blizz, this is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. Players need access to a supply of both dust and shards. Either provide a shard AND dust, fragments and dust, or restore it so blue = shard but add a shatter recipe.

You can make a shard with 20 dust.

Level 100 blues are DE'ing for 10+ dust -- so for 1 shard per 2 blues instead of 1 shard per 1 blue, I'm still going to be rolling in shards. For real.

11/25/2014 01:59 PMPosted by Sarabande
allowing shatter would have given the enchanter the CHOICE in what mats he got. Are we doing to have a shortage of shards now? Where do THOSE come from?

There is no difference in choice. You can make a shard using 20 dust.
I noticed that the max JC cooldown on taladites no longer has 3 charges, but only 1 - allowing me to only make 10 taladites at a time. I'm guessing this is to curb the influx of necks and rings.

What are the other changes people have noticed?

I've also apparently lost my jc daily quest - not that I care really as it wasn't lucrative in the least, nevertheless it's not here.

Does anyone know what they did to fix the insane dust shortage?
11/25/2014 03:51 PMPosted by Degeneratet
I noticed that the max JC cooldown on taladites no longer has 3 charges, but only 1 - allowing me to only make 10 taladites at a time. I'm guessing this is to curb the influx of necks and rings.

What are the other changes people have noticed?

I've also apparently lost my jc daily quest - not that I care really as it wasn't lucrative in the least, nevertheless it's not here.

Does anyone know what they did to fix the insane dust shortage?


yes, with light testing.. appears they have nerfed shards and bufffed dust drop rate. had a blue DE into 4 dust and a green went to 2 dust.

need more gear to DE before i can be 100% thou
Pair of 630 blues turned into 9 dust each at 667 enchanting (if that changes anything). I don't think it's particularly bad.

A shatter at a loss would have been better but even if this is slightly worse, I'll take slightly worse and actually having dust over my endless pile of luminous shards.
11/25/2014 03:51 PMPosted by Degeneratet
I noticed that the max JC cooldown on taladites no longer has 3 charges, but only 1 - allowing me to only make 10 taladites at a time. I'm guessing this is to curb the influx of necks and rings.


Is this why I have two catalyst recipes in my list?

One for 10, and the one with 3 charges that still has a CD on it(two uses were backed up still).
11/24/2014 01:50 PMPosted by Kunfuhustle


Salvage yard is awesome. It's not just for follower stuff - it gives (At least at lvl 3) a TON of greens, possible boe epics, dust, herbs, ore, and follower gear.


Has this changed? Salvage yard crates in beta gave greens but they were iLvl 30, 142, 290 ... nothing that would yield Draenic Dust once DE'd.

Pls correct if I'm mistaken.
11/24/2014 12:03 PMPosted by Rygarius
11/24/2014 10:28 AMPosted by Sweetpeaz
Please fix this profession. It is the only building in my garrison that sits with zero work being done.

Dust is far too rare, and much to valuable to use on work orders, when the daily cool downs are so important.

As a personal anecdote, my character's Enchanter's Study is experiencing a similar issue with a lack of work orders submitted when the other buildings are humming along with a constant stream of work orders. We feel that Enchanting Dust can be a bit too scarce to come by and are looking at ways to ease those supply concerns.


I think we can just have an option to DE shards into dust
11/25/2014 09:55 AMPosted by Adreaver
Just tested DEing a couple 92 blues from treasures in the world. Using Enchanter's study level 2 with a follower, I do not have enchanting on this character.

6 dust each, no shard.

PLEASE blizz, this is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. Players need access to a supply of both dust and shards. Either provide a shard AND dust, fragments and dust, or restore it so blue = shard but add a shatter recipe.

We cannot add in a new recipe without a client-side patch. We can and have made adjustments to the drop rates via a hotfix to greatly increase the chance of obtaining Draenic Dust while disenchanting a rare (blue) item. There's still a chance to obtain a Luminous Shard but the chance is no longer guaranteed.

Additionally, characters with the Enchanting profession should receive more Draenic Dust while disenchanting an item.

We're also making changes to reduce the cost of tanking and healer enchants. These hotfixes are currently undergoing testing and aren't live yet. But, I wanted to give everyone an advanced notice of what's going to happen.

  • [Still in testing] Mark of Blackrock now requires 3 Temporal Crystals (down from 15) and 5 Scorcerous Earth (down from 10).
  • [Still in testing] Mark of Shadowmoon now requires 3 Temporal Crystals (down from 15) and 5 Scorcerous Fire (down from 10).
  • The hotfix blog will be updated with all this info shortly.
    11/25/2014 09:55 AMPosted by Adreaver
    Just tested DEing a couple 92 blues from treasures in the world. Using Enchanter's study level 2 with a follower, I do not have enchanting on this character.

    6 dust each, no shard.

    PLEASE blizz, this is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. Players need access to a supply of both dust and shards. Either provide a shard AND dust, fragments and dust, or restore it so blue = shard but add a shatter recipe.

    We cannot add in a new recipe without a client-side patch. We can and have made adjustments to the drop rates via a hotfix to greatly increase the chance of obtaining Draenic Dust while disenchanting a rare (blue) item. There's still a chance to obtain a Luminous Shard but the chance is no longer guaranteed.

    Additionally, characters with the Enchanting profession should receive more Draenic Dust while disenchanting an item.

    We're also making changes to reduce the cost of tanking and healer enchants. These hotfixes are currently undergoing testing and aren't live yet. But, I wanted to give everyone an advanced notice of what's going to happen.

  • [Still in testing] Mark of Blackrock now requires 3 Temporal Crystals (down from 15) and 5 Scorcerous Earth (down from 10).
  • [Still in testing] Mark of Shadowmoon now requires 3 Temporal Crystals (down from 15) and 5 Scorcerous Fire (down from 10).
  • The [url="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/"]hotfix blog[/url] will be updated with all this info shortly.
    Thanks!
    Just a suggestion. I've gotten a fair amount of draenic dust from salvage crates. Holding about 60 of them in the bank and I'm not even enchanting. Salvage yard drops everything! :O
    11/25/2014 09:55 AMPosted by Adreaver
    Just tested DEing a couple 92 blues from treasures in the world. Using Enchanter's study level 2 with a follower, I do not have enchanting on this character.

    6 dust each, no shard.

    PLEASE blizz, this is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. Players need access to a supply of both dust and shards. Either provide a shard AND dust, fragments and dust, or restore it so blue = shard but add a shatter recipe.

    We cannot add in a new recipe without a client-side patch. We can and have made adjustments to the drop rates via a hotfix to greatly increase the chance of obtaining Draenic Dust while disenchanting a rare (blue) item. There's still a chance to obtain a Luminous Shard but the chance is no longer guaranteed.

    Additionally, characters with the Enchanting profession should receive more Draenic Dust while disenchanting an item.

    We're also making changes to reduce the cost of tanking and healer enchants. These hotfixes are currently undergoing testing and aren't live yet. But, I wanted to give everyone an advanced notice of what's going to happen.

  • [Still in testing] Mark of Blackrock now requires 3 Temporal Crystals (down from 15) and 5 Scorcerous Earth (down from 10).
  • [Still in testing] Mark of Shadowmoon now requires 3 Temporal Crystals (down from 15) and 5 Scorcerous Fire (down from 10).
  • The [url="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/"]hotfix blog[/url] will be updated with all this info shortly.


    Can you confirm the changes to the daily cooldowns for max level professions?
    Have you guys consider adding them into the Primal Spirit Vendor? Or like in MOP where you can disenchant/shatter shard etc?
    11/25/2014 05:54 PMPosted by Degeneratet
    Can you confirm the changes to the daily cooldowns for max level professions?

    Can you elaborate? I'm not aware of any changes or hotfixes that has that effect.
    Oh god, thank you!

    My Enchanter's Study is actually producing work orders now! I was this close to replacing it with another building.
    11/25/2014 05:56 PMPosted by Rygarius
    11/25/2014 05:54 PMPosted by Degeneratet
    Can you confirm the changes to the daily cooldowns for max level professions?

    Can you elaborate? I'm not aware of any changes or hotfixes that has that effect.


    I have noticed that I have lost my 3 charge over 24hr CD for both JC and Inscription if thats what Degeneratet means.
    It has reverted to the previous 600-699 CD
    Kinda upset this change wasn't listed in notes anywhere. DE 20 blues and get all dust. No idea what was going on.
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    11/25/2014 05:56 PMPosted by Rygarius
    11/25/2014 05:54 PMPosted by Degeneratet
    Can you confirm the changes to the daily cooldowns for max level professions?

    Can you elaborate? I'm not aware of any changes or hotfixes that has that effect.


    Can you change it so disenchanting WoD epics doesn't give Sha Crystals?
    I have 700 alchemy and I lost the 3 charge profession version of the alchemist catalyst craft (it was reverted back to the one with a daily cd)

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