Tweaks/Suggestions/Feedback on new models #7!

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AND NOW #7 in the list of lists! AND with 6.1 tweaks*!! ((*see second post))

1st thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881218044
2nd thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14882078352
3rd thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14883218735#1
4th thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14926782577
5th thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14927203268
6ht thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15140654631

Here's some Blue talk: https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/523234260832886785
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14881968093?page=3#53
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14927693187?page=2#30

The Euro list reached it's posting limit and didn't renew, so hopefully those who can jump between Euro or have some Euro friends can find some threads I can link for the Euro boards on their thoughts over the models!

Another good thread to check out, cataloging all the model threads on the board: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14880668498
((^Update: Seems it hasn't been worked on in awhile, but I'm keeping it here for it's catalog and information.)

Now as you all know, I repost everything, but I have made some updates over old threads, and whatnot, here's our usual list!!

((I'm also going to put in, if you like the new models, GREAT! We're not advocating them taking away the new faces and such, we're asking for more faces with these tweaks/suggestions to be added to make more customization and hopefully more faces closer to the originals. We don't want your new faces taken, we just want more faces that are truer to the originals added for more option choices.))

Here's a list of the major points brought out in many of the threads (and adding in some points:

General issues with most race models:
    -Strange and ungainly animation, usually in casting.
    -Weird bugging of character faces on UI pictures (( ex: http://i.imgur.com/Lchw4q3.png ))
    -WEIRD running animation that causes strange skippy motion without running boosts/ect.
    -Hair and beards is clipping and breaking through helms (it works for my hairstyle, but definitely not for others)
    -Cloaks are clipping badly with spines (and now butts too)
    (In fact, cloaks themselves have seemed to gain sentience and are trying to fly off of us.)
    -Weapons, armor, and shields are clipping badly and cutting into body parts while on the back and in various poses. ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/znn9bB8.jpg ))
    -Older armor isn't fitting properly on many models, horrible rigging, bad UV mapping, and stretching abound. ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/JjiZcHr.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/OYfVaUp.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/eOFXSuL.jpg /http://a.pomf.se/wdaiwb.png / http://i.imgur.com/UKlyAPR.gif ))*
    -*this has become especially bad in helms, note here: ex: http://i.imgur.com/pn7soZO.jpg ))
    -*it also appears you didn't test the eyepatches/ goggles and whatnot with the new faces: ex: http://i.imgur.com/7Tq2LeI.jpg ))
    -Many hairstyles have become flat and lifeless, as well as static as if made of steel, and look horribly messy ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/L4xpQ9p.png HAIR OF STEEL!))
    -Eye and nose shapes are all similar on many female (and some male) models, causing 'same face syndrome' (ex: http://i.imgur.com/6Bwgj6n.jpg ))
    -Eye GLOWS are vanishing or clipping through the face, way too bright or not there at all. ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/4oehF19.jpg / http://imgur.com/jLmK9zl))
    -DK's are having some of the worst problems ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/IVcapPO.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/Cf076qp.jpg))
    -Suddenly a lot of us seem to need anger management with casting/riding/ect. What is everyone so angry at?!
    -Furthermore, in some animations some races are loosing their teeth! (orcs for one!)
    -Why did you change the sounds? Was it really necessary for the PCs? (I do understand some, but not all of them!)
    -Please open ALL customization options to the barbershop, such a drastic change should allow those of the non-fuzzy peoples to change their skin color at least!!! PLEASE!!!
    -Drafty Leg Syndrome has become as rampant as the Ebola virus for robe-users! ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/NR5hSeQ.png ))
    -Caster armory poses (especially for gnomes) look pissed off or farting. ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/oAFo73R.jpg ))
    -Iron boobs, our breathing is like....gone. I can understand in some plate pieces where that would make sense, but in most loose armor our breathing is apparent as well as our breasts moving with the motion of breathing.
    -There's an ugly texture stretching/repeating issue on digitgrade races' feet/boot items ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/aITy8Jk.jpg ))


Tauren Females:
    -Weird open mouths during idle ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/VsPiLzg.png))
    -Hair and eye colors randomly changed
    -Still odd jumping animation that makes us appear to make a circle in the air, rather than just up and down jump.
    -ONLY 4 faces!!
    -....Why do I look like I just rolled around in volcanic ash instead of having black fur?
    -Eyepatches on tauren females also have an additional problem.... they do not actually cover up the eye
    -Having some bad shoulder issues with shoulder armor ((ex: http://imgur.com/a/OwNfi ))


Tauren Males:
    -Nose is NOT in any form that of a cow, they at least have their mouths closed
    -Only 5 faces!! Is it so hard to add some faces with full nose pads to the new ones?
    -Strange kind of prancing-stomp run
    -Seriously, what's up with the coat colors being oddly changed to different shades?
    -Overly exaggerated arm flailing in the jump, while they aren't a limp noodle like us, it still makes you think of the inflatable wiggly-arm man things.


Gnome Females:
    -Suddenly all of them are angry or look psychotic, especially during casting animations (grumpy cats!) (ex: http://i.imgur.com/AqJxIeh.jpg ))
    -Odd widows peak appearing in at least 6 hairstyles, which do not fit together!
    -Still having some bug-eyed issues on some faces, as well as bags. Are these gnomes getting sleep? ((ex: http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/1402 They're making COMICS about this issue now!))
    -Wait...where are these nasolabia lines coming from!? (( http://i.imgur.com/AqJxIeh.jpg ))


Gnome Males:
    -Patchy, loose, almost glued on hair
    -*Losing their hair too!! ((ex: http://imgur.com/OZlc4fs ))
    *-Okay SERIOUSLY this better be a place-holder until you fix up the hairstyles more, cause this is NOT a decent fix ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/Ts6qlSk.png ))
    -Suddenly all look like angry psychopaths like their female counterparts, both sexes need some cheerful faces with the angry and sad/neutrals!
    -Weird kind of prancy...duck waddle...motion when running. (anyone ever see a duck skip?)


Troll Females:
    -Only 6 faces, and only 1 that doesn't look constipated/angry! (and some still think that one looks mad!) ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/bK7k4wS.png ))
    -Weird waddling running animation
    -Feet flopping even worse than before!


Toll Males:
    -Loosing their hair in random patches! ((ex: http://tinyurl.com/p742hel / http://i.imgur.com/7vTotgc.jpg ))
    -Weird floppy feet while running
    -Feet are also breaking out of skirt/robes/dresses during running
    -Flex emote causes face to collapse into itself
    -Set face emotions range from stoned - angry - no flucks to give ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/ZrwnEn9.png ))
    -Along with weird feet issues, running looks odd and ungainly
    -Speaking of feet, why are the male feet so blurry and seemingly missing their back toe where as it's pretty clear on the females? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/yOCBttI.jpg ))


Night Elf Females:
    -Has drunk too much Pandarain beer and is now swaying erratically while blinking in hopes to un-blur the world around her ((ex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1rB5wfpLI4 ))
    -Strange facepaint-looking markings (some even look like melted wax!!) ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/FVpWCQ6.png?1 / http://imgur.com/FaKGrx0))
    -Random lipsticks and cosmetics changes
    -Total facial reconstruction (refer to below*)
    -Runs like she's skipping or a linebacker!
    -And her feet are very small in robes and less defined than some other races.
    -What on earth happened to my fall? You just ripped off my jump animation! ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/dxvM9C6.gif / http://i.imgur.com/pKcFxLP.jpg ))
    -Flat hair color
    -Having some bad ripping and tearing at the edges of the mouth when the lips extend
    -Strange glitch of the NE girls having DK blue glow eyes with the addition of their white flashlight eyes in back (TURN OFF YOUR BRIGHT LIGHTS!!)
    -Strange airbrushed look making a strange, almost plastic like look to the skin
    -Female Night Elf skin color #9 in combo with face #3 shows the skin on her face being a different color than the rest of her body. (ex: http://i.imgur.com/m8iAAvo.jpg ))
    -Sheathed 1-handed weapons are in a totally new position than from before and look odd against the body ((Ex: http://i.imgur.com/Wxaqijq.png / http://imgur.com/YWXIFXy ))
    -Lower legs are being eaten by thighs when sitting down! ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/6yN9TZk.png ))
    -Face has been oddly tilted upwards. ((ex: http://imgur.com/VPITQb0 / http://i.imgur.com/GzZvrlI.png ))
    -*Chipmunk cheeks, when did the N/e girls gain so much weight?
    -*Unwarranted Rhinoplasty surgery.
    -*Eyelashes have vanished, is there any particular reason for this?? O_o ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/tu5WclY.png ))


Night Elf Males:
    -Odd over-exaggerated bobbing of the head causing a dancing peacock-ish like strut.
    -Flat hair color
    -They still have a color seam on the back of their neck.
    -Head still too far forward. It's especially apparent in the standing idle animation ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/Wys4y43.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/SqvgiYf.jpg (seems to be fixed in walking animation though...))
    -Heads/faces too fat. Looks like something was dropped on them, and squished their head down some, and mucked up their neck.
    -Eyebrows are suddenly shaved off if no facial hair is chosen (Just add another with eyebrows, c'mon.)
    -Strange airbrushed look making a strange, almost plastic like look to the skin
    -Male Night Elf hair color #7 (dark blue) uses the the same light blue color for facial hair as color #6 (light blue) if you are using facial hair #2. (ex: http://imgur.com/yjVbjXS ))
    -Legs have become mismatched in size! ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/5EsK1Pt.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/PhtpoNP.jpg ))
    -Seriously weird stretching and clipping issues with robe users in sit ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/M2HEFeB.png ))
    -Why are the chins breaking through veils and masks? ((ex: http://imgur.com/9e0FPYI / http://i.imgur.com/0U1jB0v.jpg ))


Human Females:
    - http://i.imgur.com/uc5arlV.jpg Lists good points on problems with the female human models.
    -Everyone of them has too high of eyebrows making them appear surprised! (orc girl's eyebrows are right, how did you miss this??)
    -Random emotion changes (original face was happy, new one is angry)
    -More random color changes from originals
    -Is having the same problem of less defined feet in comparison to other races.
    -All seem to have the same eye and nose shape, no real different ethnicity anymore.
    -Why can't we be Black anymore?
    -Also, what did you do with our white hair!?
    -When I loot, my butt mysteriously gets sucked up into my hip ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/ufVhAyk.jpg ))
    -Still having some issues with Griftah's transmog ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/9ppbRk6.jpg ))
    -Added laugh lines that were not there before (such as on #8 and #6) ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/OMTwMyX.jpg ))
    -Veils and face-mask type helms are having horrible clipping issues (REALLY BAD!)) ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/6snCpyj.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/3C8MMWg.jpg))


Human Males:
    -All of them look depressed, sad, or thinking where they put their motorcycle-keys
    -Also having issues with sideburns not matching up to hair lines ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/YtzFb8h.png ))
    -My snowy white hair is gone!!!
    -Speaking of hair, what have you done back here!? (( ex: http://i.imgur.com/chPxL0E.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/l9NCs1g.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/hwQ7r0N.jpg ))
    -Seriously though, WHY CAN'T WE BE BLACK!? (this goes for worgens too)


Draenei Females:
    -Weird prancing running animation
    -WHY can't my tentacles move!? This is not fair D:!!
    -Ah good you're fixing the duck-lips...yes, pull it back...almost there, good....Wait WAIT TOO FAR! ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/fmhA0Bb.png))
    -'Drafty leg syndrome' is appearing in the females wearing robes, leaving floating disembodied hooves
    -Female Draenei face #9, skin color #6 has GREEN lips. (ex: http://i.imgur.com/9r1ee0h.png ))
    -Females are still falling through chairs!! ((Ex: http://i.imgur.com/MPrIAX4.jpg ))
    -Why was this hairstyle so drastically changed? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/Ha2oCSp.png))
    -Suddenly I'm somehow crying under water.....((ex: http://i.imgur.com/qM0pDjC.png ))
    -Specifically for the DK rotting skin: Why did you pale it? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/vrk4ARZ.png ))
    -Infact why did you pale all of our skins? 6.0 skins were actually close to the originals.
    -The darkest skin tone seems to have had some extra shading under the eyes, causing a sunken effect. ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/pid8pxm.png ))
    -Selfies have produced a very frightening disease of the eyelids* ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/tEsUFm9.jpg ))
    -Skin #7 is still suffering from dull-eye syndrome ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/OjZQu0z.jpg ))
    -Suddenly our hooves are changing colors between skins, not a bad look, but not the same as originals (( ex: http://i.imgur.com/57nrAex.jpg ))
    *-The re-eyeshaping was nice, but has now caused a good bit of glitches, especially in facial animations ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/Pj1YGtC.jpg ))
    -The jaw line has been pulled up alittle too far and causing an odd disconnect with the ears ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/bfQZU8e.jpg ))


Draenei Males:
    -They've lost their neck (but they at least got their legs back! Atleast until they wear a skirt...)
    -Their shoulders have been oddly pinched in, making a kind of constant shrugged motion.
    -Seem to have anger management issues with flying...and other things....
    -Having clipping issues with some hairstyles and tentacles
    -Pornostache option, but loss of beard in some facial designs, probably should be set up separately
    -Dialing down the bounce too much has caused an unnecessary bulky, draggy motion in run
    -You fixed the female's 100 yard star but not the males?


Undead Females:
    -Head forced too forward
    -Faces oddly wrinkled, giving a look of old lady-ness.
    -Strange 'evil' worked eyebrows. Give some neutral eyebrows too!
    -Weird recoloring of hair and skin.
    -Missing facial animations in the /cry and /dance animations
    -The extra spread of the shoulders is causing some shoulder pad and weapon issues.
    -Suddenly turned into spring-heels Jack for running animation (sprongy-sprongy-sprong!)
    -Polygon deformation when you look at where the leg and hip join up as they run
    -Also having the knees breaking through the robes, the only race not affected by Drafty Leg syndrome ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/AVJ018f.gif ))
    -Wait....where's my skeleton face gone?!! I can't be Queen Skeletor anymore!? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/fniTOop.gif ))
    --Sheathed 1-handed weapons are in a totally new position than from before and look odd against the body (same problem that the Night elf girls are having)
    -Why are the butt cheeks flexing in and out during cannibalize in some odd clapping motion? Your butt claps while you dead dead bodies?? (males at least don't have this problem)*
    -*Don't believe me? Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEgQaVDGUe0


Undead Males:
    -Head forced too forward
    -Suddenly turned into spring-heels Jack for running animation
    -Polygon deformation when you look at where the leg and hip join up when running
    -Wind up offensive casting now looks like my hands are convulsing and whirling like a monk attack ((ex: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1555190-New-male-undead-casting-animations! ))
    -Tongue colors have been added but only work for certain faces. ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/dXXGPEA.png / ex: http://i.imgur.com/4XonHOz.png ))


Orc Females:
    -Have a weird motion to their hips, making them look as if they're trying not to poop themselves.
    -If you choose the combo of Face #9 and Skin #5, you will receive a totally new, unlisted face rather than Face#9. This face can't be accessed in any other skins or in the face list, just that combo.((ex: http://i.imgur.com/eDermVH.png ))


Orc Males:
    -Seem to be having a bad case of male pattern baldness and receding hairlines ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/4QG4JaF.jpg ))
    -Also seem to have the texture of the hair vanishing in some places ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/UfD9kJZ.jpg ))
    -Odd walking motion in the feet causing strange foot turning
    -Options of scraggly beards taken away
    -Have lost their freckles on some faces and whatnot, needed to be added as a possible option outside of one or two faces
    -Monkey-ish walking and running motions, which is seen through most of the models now
    -One face is as depressed as the humans....Which is fine if you want a sad orc, but more options, he seems to be the only one not angry or giving a 100 yard stare.
    -Having some weird breaking issues on the mouth when smiling or giving /flirt ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/G9LO1FE.png ))


Dwarf Females:
    -Looked so great in artcraft, now suddenly have odd wrinkles
    -Noses seemed to have been enlarged to balloonish proportions on some faces
    -Why do you keep changing the eye colors?!
    -Loss of freckles on some faces
    -Definitely need to have some makeup on some faces
    -Some faces have sunken in eyes, give other options without heavy deepset eyes.
    -The standing shape of the dwarf female's body appears to make a football outline, making her middle seem to squish out further than it should appear in the male's more grounded arrow-shaped outline.
    -This strange shape and adding of a gap between the legs has caused them to look bowlegged.
    -Speaking of odd legs.... (( http://i.imgur.com/Ah5wzgX.jpg ))


Dwarf Males:
    - This actually evaded us awhile! But Dwarf males are all drowning, close your mouths guys!!!! (( http://i.imgur.com/8rHFeaN.gif ))


Blood Elf Females:
    -http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/329/4/9/new_female_blood_elf_model_suggestion_by_wittywilly-d87p1jg.jpg (this is currently the most asked for tweak/suggestion.)
    -Bit of an excessive head tilt, needs to be pulled back just abit ((http://imgur.com/a/KI4ET#1 ))
    -Is it just me or is it feel abit drafty around here? ((http://i.imgur.com/pR5WLnQ.jpg))
    -We're having a problem with our facial expressions in /dance, sometimes we have them, sometimes we don't.
    -WHAT IS THIS SORCERY!?! ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻ fix my dress damnit!! ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/2wVy7WD.png))
    -What the HECK did you do to my Bouffant? Did you put a weave in my hair!? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/JooTj21.png ))


Blood Elf Males:
    -Looks like they got a hold of some muscle milk, but look! Nipples! ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/newBEMale.jpg)) (but in boxers, :( I wanted G-strings!)
    -We're clear for take off!! (( http://i.imgur.com/I8XQJyz.gif ))
    -Dude what is with these duck-face lips!? (( http://i.imgur.com/y0QFQdM.png ))
    -Jay Leno chins with duck lips are bringing back flashbacks of the Gaston song from Beauty and the Beast
    -Some hats just can't take the fabulousness of our hair!! (( http://i.imgur.com/F4oNkkH.png ))


((If you see anything else that should be added, don't be afraid to speak up!))
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Now remember, this is a list of suggestions/feedbacks that many people have pointed out as things that need to be fixed or tweaked. This is not a place of total bashing and hatred, we're here to give constructive criticism, and as stated before, are looking for a compromise. If you like the new models, GREAT! I'm glad you do, but there's some of us who feel that Blizzard missed the mark and want faces with these tweaks and suggestions added, as well as glaring glitches and animation issues dealt with.

So give your feelings, and try to have fun, even in the mass of all of this.

And, if you like the models, feel free to also comment! Positive feedback helps just as much as negative!

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Also, adding this in from Table's nice thread, and giving us some wonderful info!

Posted by Table:
I've tracked down the lead character artist for Blizzard on twitter. You can tweet him your questions or concerns here:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Tysmurph/ or @Tysmurph

Email: Breakthelocke@gmail.com (publicly availible on his tumblr)

Tumblr: http://tysonmurphy.tumblr.com/

This was from Leith:

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)
WoW's basic Twitter account.

Blizzard Customer Support, North America (@BlizzardCS)
From their bio "Let us know how we're doing!"

Chris G. Robinson (@artofcgrobinson)
Senior art director and, from what I gather from his tweet history, the guy really in charge of the new models.

If anyone has others that can be tweeted/tumblr/emailed, lemme know, I'll add their links up here for ability to contact! Remember, he gave us these ways to contact him in good faith, don't go raging at him, but be polite and present your cases in constructive and calm ways! We might be upset and angry, but we all deserve common courtesy!
AND NOW: 6.1 TWEAKS HAVE GONE LIVE!!! (remember these are tweaks of things that have been FIXED or CHANGED, while still making updates and work to the original lists (taking out fixed issues and new issues that may arise.))

Tauren Females:
    -We now have our own spots! ((http://i.imgur.com/jmbaf9H.png))
    -Our noses have been fixed and the strange white line moved off our faces((http://i.imgur.com/jmbaf9H.png))
    -We have Blue hair option again for DKs! ((http://i.imgur.com/tqOXSjz.png))
    -Drafty Leg syndrome has been cured for us cow-girls :D


Tauren Males:

Gnome Females:
    -Some eye baggage have been removed! WOOT! ((http://i.imgur.com/CBlarmu.png))


Gnome Males:

Troll Females:

Troll Males:

Night Elf Females:
    -Yay! No more collapsing face when we flex! (( http://i.imgur.com/8A4i9q0.gifv ))


Night Elf Males:
    -We can RUN again! ((http://i.imgur.com/3xyQ1qj.gifv))
    -That horrible swaying bug on the shoulder has been fixed! ((http://i.imgur.com/QDVsq2x.gif ))


Human Females:
    -We've been given some more makeup ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/humanFemaleFaces.jpg))
    -We're still having some issues with certain hair styles ((http://i.imgur.com/XrSWOdg.jpg))


Human Males:
    -YAY pineapple beard has been worked on! ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/humanMaleFaceCHange.jpg ))


Draenei Females:
    -High beam stare is now moved to a more normal aimed stare.
    -All eyes are changing colors between skins ((http://i.imgur.com/vpxemPa.png))
    -Horns are BACK in style ladies :D
    -Eye shape has been tweaked ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/femSpacegoatFaceChange.jpg))


Draenei Males:
    -Heads have been tilted up abit and some mustache issues fixed ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/maleSpacegoatFaceChange.jpg))


Undead Females:

Undead Males:
    -Look Ma! No eyeballs! YAY! ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/undeadMaleEyeChanges.jpg))


Orc Females:
    -Some mouth breathing issues have been fixed (hey, you gonna do us Tauren girls next I hope?) ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/orcFemaleFaceChange.jpg))


Orc Males:

Dwarf Females:
    -They finally gave us some damn coffee and we don't look tired as heck!
    -They've slimmed the face some and fixed some of the make-up ((http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/january/femaleDwarfFaceSlimmer.jpg))


Dwarf Males:

Blood Elves (both sexes):
    *refer to above since y'all just came out.
To add to your Fem Draenei list:
Why the balls have they not animated the pigtails hair??!
The dwarves got their beards animated! Why can't we have our hair not stapled to our shoulders?!

Draenei Females:
-WHERE ARE MY FANGS!? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/PajoTuA.png ))

which face is this and have you checked recently, because mine are still present.
http://imgur.com/2T9EYXB

Draenei Females:
-Females are even shorter now!! ((ex: http://imgur.com/HKpfVkB ))

I found this as an upgrade since I felt they had the slow-mo-large-race syndrome before. :x
But to each their own. :P
be grateful you got new models, I'm 99% sure Blizzard is done with most of the models so...
01/14/2015 05:17 PMPosted by Roda
To add to your Fem Draenei list:
Why the balls have they not animated the pigtails hair??!
The dwarves got their beards animated! Why can't we have our hair not stapled to our shoulders?!

Draenei Females:
-WHERE ARE MY FANGS!? ((ex: http://i.imgur.com/PajoTuA.png ))

which face is this and have you checked recently, because mine are still present.
http://imgur.com/2T9EYXB

Draenei Females:
-Females are even shorter now!! ((ex: http://imgur.com/HKpfVkB ))

I found this as an upgrade since I felt they had the slow-mo-large-race syndrome before. :x
But to each their own. :P


XD It's okay, I prefered them shorter myself too, but remember I'm listing things that I see a good number of times, and about 5 people have complained about shortness. So I added it.

Hm, interesting though, you still have fangs, but some people do not. I wonder if this is based off the various faces?

And OMG YES I HATE THAT MY TENTACLES DON'T MOVE!

My braids move and shift as a Tauren, why can't my tentacles move when I play my Dra? D: *upset*

You are like the only other person who has said that, and I've been WAITING for someone to bring it up, because damnit I want to add it D:
01/14/2015 05:24 PMPosted by Makki

XD It's okay, I prefered them shorter myself too, but remember I'm listing things that I see a good number of times, and about 5 people have complained about shortness. So I added it.


Oh I was just adding my 2c on it, I know why it was up there. :P

01/14/2015 05:24 PMPosted by Makki
Hm, interesting though, you still have fangs, but some people do not. I wonder if this is based off the various faces?

It might be.

01/14/2015 05:24 PMPosted by Makki
And OMG YES I HATE THAT MY TENTACLES DON'T MOVE!

My braids move and shift as a Tauren, why can't my tentacles move when I play my Dra? D: *upset*

You are like the only other person who has said that, and I've been WAITING for someone to bring it up, because damnit I want to add it D:

If you look closely the tentacles do move when you jump, walk, or backpedal. Just not any other time.
(at least on the female draenei)
01/14/2015 05:28 PMPosted by Roda
01/14/2015 05:24 PMPosted by Makki

XD It's okay, I prefered them shorter myself too, but remember I'm listing things that I see a good number of times, and about 5 people have complained about shortness. So I added it.


Oh I was just adding my 2c on it, I know why it was up there. :P

01/14/2015 05:24 PMPosted by Makki
Hm, interesting though, you still have fangs, but some people do not. I wonder if this is based off the various faces?

It might be.

01/14/2015 05:24 PMPosted by Makki
And OMG YES I HATE THAT MY TENTACLES DON'T MOVE!

My braids move and shift as a Tauren, why can't my tentacles move when I play my Dra? D: *upset*

You are like the only other person who has said that, and I've been WAITING for someone to bring it up, because damnit I want to add it D:

If you look closely the tentacles do move when you jump, walk, or backpedal. Just not any other time.
(at least on the female draenei)


Oh okay, sorry about that XD!!

I'll have to look into that. Looks like model testing for me tonight.

And yes they do have a bit of a sway, but it's nothing like the braids on the Dwarves and the tauren braids. Which brings up another question, do the male Dra's tentacles move? It would seem even WEIRDER if theirs didn't move. Crap, more model testing again XD;;
The fangs are definitely still there on female Draenei they are just MUCH less prominent than before.

I liked how they were on the BC model much better personally.

Tiny fangs get kind of lost in the huge row of detailed teeth we have now. They're even smaller than female nelf fangs(and their old model didn't even have fangs!) I can barely tell they are there whereas before any time my character opened her mouth it was just like oh hey fangs.

Definitely made the Draenei seem more alien to me, idk. I liked it better how it was.

It's a small peeve though.

Not as annoying as the missing eye glow, ghost hooves in robes, some faces having huge noses, or the fact we seem to have forgotten how to sit in chairs. :P
01/14/2015 05:48 PMPosted by Necrotìca
or the fact we seem to have forgotten how to sit in chairs. :P

Idk what you're talking about.

To me it seems like we've MASTERED sitting in chairs.
http://imgur.com/9mx8nV6
Double-posted, eh? That explains my missing post. And thank you for adding the issues I brought up.

Also, I totally forgot about that chair thing; which also seems to happen when sitting on logs at the garrison lake.
Yeah, sorry about that Cassima.

Hm...well if fangs are appearing, I must need to take that down, one minute. Edit: There we go :D
Ooh, I love that new thread smell! Mmm :D

So, about those new PTR tweaks! They brought a tear to my eye, a bit. WE HAVE TAUREN SPOTS BACK AGAIN! Oh my goodness, I am overjoyed about that. Looks like I'll be making my shaman after all :3

Dwarf females seemed to have gotten a hold of ice cream at some point and managed to get their wisdom teeth swelling to go down, and as a result look absolutely badass and determined now.

I am so happy they paid attention to so many complaints we had about the races that aren't played as much as others...and true, things aren't perfect - but these are some big steps.

The only things I'm disappointed to note weren't included in the PTR tweaks (yet?) are the fact the Orc female face #9/skin #5 glitch is still there, Night Elf females still don't have eyelashes and as far as I can tell, their faces weren't changed(please correct me if I'm wrong), and Gnome females still look pretty downhearted facial expression-wise.

For the most part, I'm glad to see they actually heard and implemented some changes we have all been talking about in these threads. Makki, you've made a huge difference and you should feel very proud of yourself! So should everyone else who has kept the flame alive :)

Dang, this post got long...I haven't been playing WoW as much due to some IRL stress, but seeing this PTR update stuff brought a big smile to my face. We definitely should keep the feedback coming now that we know we're being heard! Keep that hope burning. Speaking of hope, I hope everyone's having a happy new year so far~

*edits* Posted in the duplicate thread at first, whoops. o.o;
Makki, maybe for clarification, you could make the issues that are fixed in PTR a little more obvious that they're fixed in PTR. Like maybe have the main post be just the issues that have not yet been addressed in PTR, and post #2 be like:

"Issues fixed in PTR build 6.1.0.19445:

Tauren females:

- We have our spots back! (link to image)
- We have more bovine noses! (link to image)

Gnome females:

- Bags removed from face 1!"

Etc, etc? Just to clean up the main post a bit.
Oh yeah the PTR!
The Draenei females have had some face tweaking so that their eyes are no longer weird and buglike. They're not quite at the point of being the same shape as the old versions, but they've definitely improved.

The lipstick draenei face also looks closer to the old version.
The face just before the lipstick (The smile face) isn't quite up to its old gory but it's a lot less creepy than its first new version.

A big complaint across the board with these new (and new new) faces are that they all seem to have pronounced creases to the side of their mouth no matter how smooth their skin is supposed to be.
01/14/2015 06:51 PMPosted by Snuzzle
Makki, maybe for clarification, you could make the issues that are fixed in PTR a little more obvious that they're fixed in PTR. Like maybe have the main post be just the issues that have not yet been addressed in PTR, and post #2 be like:

"Issues fixed in PTR build 6.1.0.19445:

Tauren females:

- We have our spots back! (link to image)
- We have more bovine noses! (link to image)

Gnome females:

- Bags removed from face 1!"

Etc, etc? Just to clean up the main post a bit.


I'll see what I can do!

Edit: Cleaned up, thanks for the idea Snuzz. I left it rather in the list itself but I'll shift it to post 2 when it gets substantial.

Also does anyone have that picture of the makeup for the human females?
It's just you already have post #2 "saved" with your bump, :P

Thanks again for doing these though. All evening I've been checking for thread 7 ever since 6 closed xD
01/14/2015 05:22 PMPosted by Aeryal
be grateful you got new models, I'm 99% sure Blizzard is done with most of the models so...

New models that I'm not even using?

...so, so grateful.

01/14/2015 06:45 PMPosted by Tuvalu
Dwarf females seemed to have gotten a hold of ice cream at some point and managed to get their wisdom teeth swelling to go down, and as a result look absolutely badass and determined now.
Really hope this fits in with my current complaints about the Dwarf Model. As you can see, I've got all the important WoD Achievements (mostly 10th anniversary, really) but all of that is on my Alliance main, a Fem Dorf Pally... and she looks amazing in Old Model, new model, she looks like a neanderthal. Super unhappy with the current state of the dwarf models.

My game time expires in 16 hours. Has been a pleasure posting with you all.
01/14/2015 08:15 PMPosted by Dimpishly
01/14/2015 05:22 PMPosted by Aeryal
be grateful you got new models, I'm 99% sure Blizzard is done with most of the models so...

New models that I'm not even using?

...so, so grateful.

01/14/2015 06:45 PMPosted by Tuvalu
Dwarf females seemed to have gotten a hold of ice cream at some point and managed to get their wisdom teeth swelling to go down, and as a result look absolutely badass and determined now.
Really hope this fits in with my current complaints about the Dwarf Model. As you can see, I've got all the important WoD Achievements (mostly 10th anniversary, really) but all of that is on my Alliance main, a Fem Dorf Pally... and she looks amazing in Old Model, new model, she looks like a neanderthal. Super unhappy with the current state of the dwarf models.

My game time expires in 16 hours. Has been a pleasure posting with you all.


T_T I will miss you Dimpishly!!
01/14/2015 08:15 PMPosted by Dimpishly
Really hope this fits in with my current complaints about the Dwarf Model. As you can see, I've got all the important WoD Achievements (mostly 10th anniversary, really) but all of that is on my Alliance main, a Fem Dorf Pally... and she looks amazing in Old Model, new model, she looks like a neanderthal. Super unhappy with the current state of the dwarf models.


Have you checked on the PTR? Dwarf ladies look AMAZING now.

http://i.imgur.com/M9LPClX.png
01/14/2015 08:39 PMPosted by Snuzzle
Have you checked on the PTR? Dwarf ladies look AMAZING now.

http://i.imgur.com/M9LPClX.png

I'm not sure how actual Dwarf players feel about the changes, but I as someone who has never played a female Dwarf character might just have to roll one if they come off the PTR looking like that.

The eye angle slanting up instead of down on the outside makes a huge difference. The eye colors seem more vivid too. That top right face with the bright red eyes looks totally awesome.

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