WoW going f2p w/ Veteran status?

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01/14/2015 11:29 PMPosted by Lilus
And before someone points it out the answer is yes.....my character has lost a few inches from their height recently :P
A few inches? O.o
01/14/2015 11:36 PMPosted by Alacialuun
01/14/2015 11:29 PMPosted by Lilus
And before someone points it out the answer is yes.....my character has lost a few inches from their height recently :P
A few inches? O.o


....Ok fine. But only a foot! I SWEAR!

World Enlargers are quite dangerous when misused :-/
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with all of the same restrictions. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.
However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with all of the same restrictions.


What happens if you log into the account while the character has more than 10g?
01/15/2015 02:35 PMPosted by Bashiok
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with [url="https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-starter-edition"]all of the same restrictions[/url]. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.


So what happens to characters on "veteran" accounts that are above level 20? What happens to the gold you have that is above the limits?

Soooo many more questions now....
Cool, thanks for elaborating :)
01/15/2015 02:40 PMPosted by Mystraele
01/15/2015 02:35 PMPosted by Bashiok
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with [url="https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-starter-edition"]all of the same restrictions[/url]. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.


So what happens to characters on "veteran" accounts that are above level 20? What happens to the gold you have that is above the limits?

Soooo many more questions now....


They'll probably turn off EXP and prevent you from gaining more gold.
01/15/2015 02:40 PMPosted by Mystraele
So what happens to characters on "veteran" accounts that are above level 20? What happens to the gold you have that is above the limits?

Soooo many more questions now....


Probably won't have access to them.

I'm looking at this and thinking that guildies that let their accounts lapse will be able to log in and chat if they wish to. Which is a plus. We recently ran through the "how long since they logged in" list and nearly kicked everyone who's been gone a while. Glad we didn't.
01/15/2015 02:35 PMPosted by Bashiok
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with [url="https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-starter-edition"]all of the same restrictions[/url]. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.


That's pretty cool.

I doubt you'd consider this. But would you at all consider lifting some of the restrictions a bit more? Maybe instead of level 20, it could be level 60, and you're locked to 1-60 content? IE can't go to outlands. Might be asking a bit much i know.

Still pretty cool. Let people who quit come back and get a sneak peak at changes in game without having to sub first.

Can the silly restrictions go as well? Like unable to trade, unable to get more then 10 gold, unable to whisper someone unless they whisper you first etc?
Guild chat was the only thing I missed while unsubbed. This is a good idea.
01/15/2015 02:35 PMPosted by Bashiok
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with [url="https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-starter-edition"]all of the same restrictions[/url]. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.


What exactly does that mean all of the same restrictions? Will you still be able to raid, you're just hamstrung by being unable to whisper, trade large amounts of gold, use the AH, etc? Obviously not longer gaining XP makes sense, but what about those already level 100?
Would I be able to log into my characters that are level 21 and above?
It would be nice if you could play your higher level characters to some extent, truthfully.
01/15/2015 02:35 PMPosted by Bashiok
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with [url="https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-starter-edition"]all of the same restrictions[/url]. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.


So what happens to people who have level 100 characters, all of the expansions and thousands of gold in their banks?

Are those characters unplayable? Or still playable, but can't accrue anymore gold?
WoW funds Blizzard's other pet projects, that's why we lose raid tiers and have lack of endgame content.
01/15/2015 02:44 PMPosted by Sentenza
What exactly does that mean all of the same restrictions? Will you still be able to raid, you're just hamstrung by being unable to whisper, trade large amounts of gold, use the AH, etc? Obviously not longer gaining XP makes sense, but what about those already level 100?


I'd imagine the same thing that happends to DKs made on a wrath trail account back in the day. The character is locked and unable to be played.
01/15/2015 02:35 PMPosted by Bashiok
We’ve always had this kind of weird limitation where if you’ve never played WoW we let you play as much as you want, albeit in a very restricted Starter Edition account. However, if you have ever had a subscription--but don’t currently have one--we don’t even let you log in. In 6.1 we’ll effectively revert lapsed accounts into a Starter Edition “mode”, with [url="https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-starter-edition"]all of the same restrictions[/url]. The one difference being that your sub-level 20 characters will be able to join a guild if any of your other characters are still in that guild.

The label for this mode internally is “Veteran”, and those are the strings that were datamined, but it’s unlikely to be a term we use to any great degree externally. It will simply be the default state for accounts that don’t currently have an active subscription.


If you go ahead with the sub tokens, would you consider lifting the AH use limitation on these accounts? it'd be a quick way for them to spend gold they had in the bank to get a sub token and back into the game quickly.
This is a good idea to an extent...a good portion of the peoples guilds will probably be deserted since the time they logged in last. Doesnt mean the guilds aren't around anymore, it could possibly just mean they moved or started a whole new guild all together.

Still nice for people to be able to jump on their old account and see their old toons on the selection screen again.

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