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Hello all. Don't fight, troll, harass, etc. Y'all know the drill.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13780458267
Quick post before I call it a night! :D
Ima post in here with all the other cool kids.
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/real-american-snipers-5-alleged-lies.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/

Important reading for kids who buy into blind hero worship.
03/08/2015 05:57 AMPosted by Saigio
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/real-american-snipers-5-alleged-lies.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/

Important reading for kids who buy into blind hero worship.


People need to learn that being a soldier doesn't make someone immune from criticism.

Though Chris Kyle likely did not deserve to die, he has proven to be a war-loving, lying racist. I say likely because there isn't substantial evidence that his "160 Confirmed Kills" were entirely from hostile targets, and given his attitudes towards the Iraqi population the US was sent to "liberate", I'm inclined to be persuaded that some of them were civilians.
03/08/2015 06:52 AMPosted by Volkuza
03/08/2015 05:57 AMPosted by Saigio
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/real-american-snipers-5-alleged-lies.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/

Important reading for kids who buy into blind hero worship.


People need to learn that being a soldier doesn't make someone immune from criticism.

Though Chris Kyle likely did not deserve to die, he has proven to be a war-loving, lying racist. I say likely because there isn't substantial evidence that his "160 Confirmed Kills" were entirely from hostile targets, and given his attitudes towards the Iraqi population the US was sent to "liberate", I'm inclined to be persuaded that some of them were civilians.


There are plenty of genuinely heroic soldiers. I went to school with a guy that survived three or four IEDs. He was out their risking his life in Afghanistan. Guy is probably one of the bravest men I personally know. But people like Kyle give him and all the other soldiers out their a bad name by abusing the view of soldiers as heroes.
/fights a troll
Uhm. Is that stuff about American Sniper really necessary?

Not trying to demean anybody, but I'm not sure if we should actually discuss something like that... ono;
Just a polite conversation among peers.
Getting tired of not being able to fly on draenor. Was cute the first few months but now I am absolutely tired of the horrible terrain and getting caught/stuck everywhere!
03/08/2015 05:57 AMPosted by Saigio
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/real-american-snipers-5-alleged-lies.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/

Important reading for kids who buy into blind hero worship.


Wow, he didn't tell the truth. At the time he wrote this book, he had seen more hell than you or most any of us in this thread will ever see in a lifetime. He willingly risked his life so that we can feel safe whenever we board an airplane and then dedicated the rest of his life to helping others that did the same. He wasn't perfect, but he was a better man than most.

03/08/2015 06:52 AMPosted by Volkuza
03/08/2015 05:57 AMPosted by Saigio
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/real-american-snipers-5-alleged-lies.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/

Important reading for kids who buy into blind hero worship.


People need to learn that being a soldier doesn't make someone immune from criticism.

Though Chris Kyle likely did not deserve to die, he has proven to be a war-loving, lying racist. I say likely because there isn't substantial evidence that his "160 Confirmed Kills" were entirely from hostile targets, and given his attitudes towards the Iraqi population the US was sent to "liberate", I'm inclined to be persuaded that some of them were civilians.


All he wanted to do was protect. That means civilians over there as much as it means people from here. If you ever took care to look at the evidence for his so called racism, he clearly says that the insurgents the U.S. is fighting are the savages. Which they are.

03/08/2015 07:06 AMPosted by Saigio
03/08/2015 06:52 AMPosted by Volkuza
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People need to learn that being a soldier doesn't make someone immune from criticism.

Though Chris Kyle likely did not deserve to die, he has proven to be a war-loving, lying racist. I say likely because there isn't substantial evidence that his "160 Confirmed Kills" were entirely from hostile targets, and given his attitudes towards the Iraqi population the US was sent to "liberate", I'm inclined to be persuaded that some of them were civilians.


There are plenty of genuinely heroic soldiers. I went to school with a guy that survived three or four IEDs. He was out their risking his life in Afghanistan. Guy is probably one of the bravest men I personally know. But people like Kyle give him and all the other soldiers out their a bad name by abusing the view of soldiers as heroes.


Every soldier is a hero, some just get more attention than others.
Not every soldier is heroic. Some do terrible things. Some abuse the notion of heroism for personal profit
Some lie for personal glory.
saying all soldiers are heroes insults every soldier who is actually heroic.
03/08/2015 11:17 AMPosted by Urók
Wow, he didn't tell the truth. At the time he wrote this book, he had seen more hell than you or most any of us in this thread will ever see in a lifetime. He willingly risked his life so that we can feel safe whenever we board an airplane and then dedicated the rest of his life to helping others that did the same. He wasn't perfect, but he was a better man than most.


He did not. He was in iraq. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with the Taliban
People seem to forget that when you sign on to the military, you lose a bit of your free will. You have to obey the orders of those appointed over you, otherwise you face serious consequences coupled with whatever consequences are faced in that moment (lost comrades).

If that means putting a bullet through a minor because they're holding a grenade, and he's ordered or under oath to pull the trigger, he has to.
03/08/2015 12:07 PMPosted by Cannibal
People seem to forget that when you sign on to the military, you lose a bit of your free will. You have to obey the orders of those appointed over you, otherwise you face serious consequences coupled with whatever consequences are faced in that moment (lost comrades).

If that means putting a bullet through a minor because they're holding a grenade, and he's ordered or under oath to pull the trigger, he has to.


No one said otherwise? My issues are that Kyle abused the notion of all soldiers being heroes by virtue of being a soldier by lying and making up falsehoods to further bolster his macho man ego.
03/08/2015 11:56 AMPosted by Saigio
03/08/2015 11:17 AMPosted by Urók
Wow, he didn't tell the truth. At the time he wrote this book, he had seen more hell than you or most any of us in this thread will ever see in a lifetime. He willingly risked his life so that we can feel safe whenever we board an airplane and then dedicated the rest of his life to helping others that did the same. He wasn't perfect, but he was a better man than most.


He did not. He was in iraq. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with the Taliban


One of the main reasons the US invaded was because it was believed that Saddam was harboring Al-Qaeda. Even though that was found to be false, he was still risking his life so that we can feel safe.

03/08/2015 12:07 PMPosted by Cannibal
People seem to forget that when you sign on to the military, you lose a bit of your free will. You have to obey the orders of those appointed over you, otherwise you face serious consequences coupled with whatever consequences are faced in that moment (lost comrades).

If that means putting a bullet through a minor because they're holding a grenade, and he's ordered or under oath to pull the trigger, he has to.


The movie was wrong on that part. His first reported kill was a woman holding a grenade in one arm and a toddler in the other. I forget what happened to the child.

03/08/2015 12:14 PMPosted by Saigio
No one said otherwise? My issues are that Kyle abused the notion of all soldiers being heroes by virtue of being a soldier by lying and making up falsehoods to further bolster his macho man ego.


He lied and he exaggerated, so has every other person on the planet. Again, he wasn't at all perfect, but he was still a great man.
03/08/2015 12:17 PMPosted by Urók
One of the main reasons the US invaded was because it was believed that Saddam was harboring Al-Qaeda. Even though that was found to be false, he was still risking his life so that we can feel safe.


Except we knew that was false at the time too. There was no safety to be found.

He has done nothing deserving of being called great.
Alright, moving on from politics that none of us have any control over anyways...

What's your guy's best way of making money in-game? For me, so far, it's Garrisons. I've the Enchanter's study specifically for that purpose. Hukulk also pointed out that farming the Isle of Giants is a great way of making money, and I've already made a couple k just on a couple hours of running around there.

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